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    The Sam and Dave tour is a bust. The current Rolling Stone lists the show under "the money losers" along with Alanis Morrisette. They nearly KO'd the promoter in Denver by selling 3500 tickets at Fiddlers Green (I will try and find the article in the Denver Post online. It was printed last month, I believe.) In Boston, they've sold 5000 tickets at a 19900 seat ampitheatre. Hartford has sold about 800 lawn seats and 2500 pavillion. This place holds 20,000. Mike Anthony has been a savior to pull in a few more people at each show. Unless one of these guys gets in VH, you will never see them on a stage this large again. A few markets have been money makers but overall, these numbers are going to look mighty similar the VHIII tour. The public has spoken.

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    The public has spoken hey? Look I hate to say it, but in part it's due to the genre in general. Eighties rock and heavy metal artists have consistently had truoble selling out venues of late. The only way most of them have a chance of making a profit is to put a whole bunch of bands on one bill....

    The general public just isn't as interested anymore. (sad but true)

    Still and all, I got tickets to the September 1st Dave/Sam show in Syracuse NY. I can't wait!!!!
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    What a difference the Van Halen brothers would make. They would pull in 20-40,000 in every market.

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    I think classic VH transcends any genre. Much like RUSH, who is going to be in the top five grosses of the year with ticket sales of 30 million.

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    Ed and his goofy brother should be up there playing with them. You would sure sell a lot more tickets, and the interest would be way up there, imo.

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    You are all right. But you missed the bottom line. The economy SUCKS! People are not shelling out money for concerts this summer. Should they have targeted smaller venues absolutely, but along with that comes higher ticket prices. I am going to 2 shows one in a 7500 seat venue in NH and one at the 19900 seat Tweeter Center in MA (mentioned above). Same show, same Sam, same Dave: NH 6th row @ $72, MA 5th row @ $60. Go figure. Everything is relative. This tour never mades sense from the start. If a promoter takes the gamble, especially hear in Boston where there is a 5000 seat venue right on the water in South Boston in addition to the Tweeter Center, that is their fault. It all comes down to money and people are not spending it on entertainment, if they have any period. Most people are lucky if they get a paycheck right now , forget about going to a concert.

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    And the only way the VH brothers are going to draw anything bigger is with Dave or Sam fronting the band-PERIOD!!!

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    Well I don't know how the tour is doing in other markets, but I've seen the show twice. First in Columbus on July 11, and second in Nashville last Saturday. Both venues (Polaris and AmSouth) probably hold close to 20,000 people, and both were very near capacity. Not just in the pavilion either. The lawns at both venues were nearly full. In fact, the only place that I could see empty spaces anywhere last Saturday was on the very far sides of the lawn area. The seats under the pavilion were full (or near full)at both shows. When I saw VHIII at Polaris in '98, it was painfully obvious that the turnout was horrible. There were large sections of the seating area that were barren and when I turned around to look at the lawn, I saw a lot of grass. A whole lot of grass.

    At least from what I've seen first-hand, this tour has been a successful one. Neither of the shows that I've seen have been sell-outs, but neither have been poor turnouts at all. I'd be interested to see if those shows the Rolling Stone cites really have that horrible of a turnout.

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    Originally posted by Hangman:
    And the only way the VH brothers are going to draw anything bigger is with Dave or Sam fronting the band-PERIOD!!!
    You might even need BOTH Dave & Sam to draw the crowds!!

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    The only reason I bought a ticket is because they're lawn seats, under $30...
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    Can you really blame Sammy for blasting Dave when Dave was the one who wanted to cancell one show to do a Madison Square Garden show. It would be a financial nightmare.
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    I would hope that all parties involved would put egos aside and get together to record and tour.

    As for Sam and Dave not selling out in some places, that wouldn't surprise me. Since these two guys are not on the public radar screen, there are some areas of the country that wouldn't know they are touring or could care less. It also wouldn't surprise me if the number of tickets sold matched the VHIII tour (as someone said earlier). Those figures should be shown to not only DLR/SH but to EVH and AVH as well. They know what to do from there. Whether they want to is another story.
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    Originally posted by BrokenCombs:

    The general public just isn't as interested anymore. (sad but true)
    I think that sums it up the best. IMO, this is also true of a Van Halen reunion with Sam and/or Dave. A reunion tour would do well, but I doubt every show would be a sellout.
    As far as the economic success of the Sam/Dave tour, it wouldn't hurt if they lowered the ticket prices a little, as well as the t-shirt, hat prices. I think the cost of a Sammy t-shirt was more than I paid for the friggin' concert ticket.

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    Sammy Hagar / David Lee Roth 6/21/02 Cricket Pavilion Phoenix, AZ 10,218 19,337 52% $340,475

    Sammy Hagar / David Lee Roth 6/22/02 Glen Helen Blockbuster Pavilion Devore, CA 15,361 20,424 75% $474,192

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    6/25/02 Universal Amphitheatre Universal City, CA 6,089
    6,089 12,178 100% $623,935

    yeah they are doing so terrible....

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    Sammy Hagar / David Lee Roth
    5/29/02 Blossom Music Center Cuyahoga Falls, OH 7,896 10,000 78% $243,413

    Sammy Hagar / David Lee Roth
    5/31/02 DTE Energy Music Theatre Clarkston, MI 14,852 15,274 97% $499,566

    Sammy Hagar / David Lee Roth
    6/1/02 Tweeter Center Tinley Park, IL 12,164 28,589 42% $473,522

    Sammy Hagar / David Lee Roth
    6/7/02 UMB Bank Pavilion Maryland Heights, MO 12,426 21,000 59% $490,884

 

 

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