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    After another evening of '75 stations and nothing on', I began thinking about what happened to the once great medium of television. Tracing back a bit, I put together a few pieces of evidence. Consider this:

    Although remote control came about a few decades back, it didn't become the norm until somewhere during the 80's. As we all know, men channel surf during commercials, while women generally seem to leave the commercials on. Where commercials once appealed to a wide, more captive audience, we have become inundated with tampons, yeast infections, PMS, and orgasmic shampoo commercials, even during 'guy-oriented' programming.

    Since cable has grown more popular, it has lost sight of its initial goal: to minimize advertising because the viewer was paying to watch. So what happens? The stations synchronize commercial breaks so we can't avoid them even with a remote. More tampons and feminine itching. And the ultimate: infomercials. Now we PAY to see hours upon hours of commercials lasting 30 minutes at a time.

    Then the internet comes along, where anyone can see porn, catch the news and sports and stock updates, view bloody corpses and ugly people, talk to anonymous people, play games, etc. Suddenly, TV is left behind, struggling to come up with ideas shocking enough to gain an audience, all the while telling us how bad those women itch, or how many old people can't control their bladders.

    Pay per view has taken much wind from the sails of the video rental system, and now it costs $4 to rent a new flick at Blockbuster, while I could see it 3 months sooner at home and tape it without owning a second vcr, and do it for a dollar less. Pay channels like HBO and Cinemax seem to be showing the same movies I watched for years on USA and TBS, only now you pay EXTRA for them, so now they aren't laden with ads for stuff you spray when your dog shits on the rug, or 2 women in a rowboat feeling not so fresh because of the lack of commercials on those pay stations. How long til HBO shows us how a maxi with wings can hold a whole bottle of thin blue fluid without a leak?

    MTV shows about 10 videos a day, and it's a lolita fest or a freak show that they air. When MTV was a pay station, we got videos all the time; now it's 'real world' bullshit about people being forced into a soap opera lifestyle. That mentality bled over into all these 'real life' tv shows.

    Cartoons are now made to entertain only the youngest of children; there is nothing to appeal to an adult mind, as the old Looney Tunes were a GREAT example of juxtaposing material to entertain the kids AND their parents, on 2 completely different levels.

    Teletubbies. 'nuff said.

    After all these years, each new 'advance' in technology seems to drag the quality of entertainment down another notch. If it weren't for TVLand, Nick at Nite, and the other scattered reruns, the only current things I can bear to watch are all educational (TLC, PBS, History, A&E, DISC, etc).

    Video games-while they have been a great source of entertainment for many people, do we really need 12 competing systems all putting out the same stuff year after year?

    With the 15-second attention span generation running the show, movies have become quickies with little to no depth, and very little rewatchability. How many sitcoms of the last 5 years will ever be 'classics'? How many will even last 5 years in syndication? Very few. How many movies currently in the theaters will be available on tv every month and still draw an audience?

    TV and radio coexisted quite nicely for a long time. While radio was forced into a different format (the old 'shows' turned into tv programs), it remained viable for quite a while during tv's heyday. Now that tv is on a severe downslope, and radio keeps becoming more narrowly focused, what is next? Will the internet-as-entertainment fad disappear as so many predicted? Or will it keep digging deeper and deeper into debauchery and 'shock' to maintain its stature? Eventually it WILL hit rock bottom; when that happens, what will be the next step? While there are certainly some cool things about it, as far as being 'entertaining', well, the internet seems to be getting smaller and smaller, instead of bigger and better. How many variations on one theme can we tolerate? How many porn downloads does it take to hit the law of diminishing returns? How many celebrity autopsy photos? How many bad junk emails? How many annoying viruses (viri?? [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]) will we be willing to avoid? Does anyone actually still use chat rooms?

    If it wasn't for the concept of incessant reruns of shows I have watched since I was a little kid, and a few oldies and 80's and classical stations, and this board, my escapes from the often nastiness of 'real life' become severely handicapped. Any of you REALLY think things are better now in the entertainment field than they were 10 or 15 years ago?

    Technology seems to be advancing, but it looks to me like it's making things worse.

    (thank you for the opportunity to rant like a grumpy old man)

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    Great Post Abe! TV is dying. The only good shows I watch are mostly reruns of shows that don't air anymore, like Seinfeld, Fresh Prince, and All in the Family. There are no good sitcoms out anymore that I would stay home to watch. Video games bore me to be honest. I have Nintendo 64 with about 4 of the first games that came out, and I never play that. The internet is cool, but there isn't much to do here either. I mostly download songs, go here, email, and look at....well you know [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] But I am really one of the few people left that spends their time outside doing things, riding around, looking for something to do that doesnt have to do with tv, video games, the internet, or anything like that. I go out all of the day and interact with people, go places with friends, and play sports and such. I don't have much time for tv or anything else like that. My internet time is used late at night when I get home. Trust me it's a lot funner to be out and alive, than sitting at home, watching 5 minute rants about tampons, and childrens cereal waiting for the newest episode of Homicide to come on.

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    Good post, Abe - don't know if it's technology or if it's just that there's too many channels now all needing programming.

    When I was a kid - there was no cable in my town and we got the 3 network affiliates from Portland, a PBS station from Durham, New Hampshire, and on a good day the network affiliates from Boston and Manchester. Then around '74-'75, we got cable - now we had the Portland affiliates, Boston affiliates, the PBS, a couple of indies out of Boston and a couple of French-language stations out of Canada. A couple of years later, HBO was added, but it came on like 530P-6P and was on 'til like 2A-3A or something like that. And they showed good movies. A few years later options like Cinemax started showing up, and we heard about in other areas Showtime. Meanwhile HBO moved to 24 hours a day. Soon, these networks started buying exclusive rights to movies from various studios, and so, unlike before, you didn't get to see every good movie that came out on whichever movie service you were subscribed to. Less movies meant more "filler" programming. Some of it was good, most of it was horrible. Meanwhile, back in the jungle, cable systems kept expanding and soon you had all sorts of niche channels. Channels that were all sports, all music videos, country themed, women themed, golf themed, court themed, cartoon themed - you name it. A few new networks were added, too. And they all needed programming, and there's just not that much good programming to go around. Same thing with movies. Think of all the movies that have ever been made and wonder how anyone ever comes up with an original idea. Well, for the most part, they can't anymore, so we get remakes of old tv series or old movies. As for those commercials, I agree - I don't want to hear about anyone's problems. If I see that dork getting ready to go see his doctor about Viagra on the street I'm gonna make sure to point and laugh. It's bad enough that they sponsor my favourite race car driver (for those of you NASCAR fans - don't you think that sponsorship should've gone with the Wood Brothers?).

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    Part of the problem is that we all seem to think entertainment only comes out of a CRT or LCD panel.

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    GREAT Reply MikeL!...Me I make my own entertainment as it comes along. I don' depend on technology all the time, to keep my mind entertained.

    Hell, I had some wonderful, engrossing, exciting, stimulating entertainment last night, with just myself and my girlfriend, alone on my living room couch! No TV on, no computer on, nothing! And it was (Use your imagination here) GREAT!


    Ok, one small piece of technology was included: I had the home stereo on, softly in the background: Miles Davis "Kind Of Blue" playing on the CD. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
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    Abe, you're post is funny [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]
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    good post abe. i also don't have time for tv, although i do enjoy a lot of sitcoms. i think that shows like friends, frasier (as well as cheers), and the simpsons will end up as classics. of course, seinfeld will too.
    i don't have cable, and although i wish i did sometimes, normally it's not a big deal. the 500 mega-channel universe seems like a waste of money. all i have for video games is a game boy, and it really belongs to my little brothers.

    as for the feminine itching commercials, i blame the women. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]
    and i know that DIF probably blames AOL. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

    broken combs, hopefully you used a second piece of technology, ie. the pill, or something. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] (unless you're trying to have a kid, then nevermind) [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

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    My Abe, we're certainly prolific today aren't we... [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]
    I agree with you though. I think that's why the more popular tv. shows now are the ones that show people in more and more dangerous or embarrasing situations.
    It doesn't seem to be enough to be entertained today just by entertainment alone.
    It needs to be at someone elses expense to make it interesting.
    We're becoming hardened as a culture of watchers, needing a more hazardous fix to keep our attention.
    eventually it'll be real life tv. like seen in futuristic movies, where you play survivour for real. If someone doesn't actually die each week it won't be worth watching.

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    Good posts here from all...Oh an Laner: I DID use one form of "technology" while involved in last night's "nocternal activities" [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]
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    T.V. sucks nowadays. Go read a book. You'll rarely be disappointed.
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    While reading a book has certain merits, I for one rarely do so. When I DO read, it's typically nonfiction, educational stuff.

    My eyes can't take reading for long, and due to health issues, there are days when I literally can't do much beyond surfing through the television for hours at a time. So for me, tv often becomes a necessity.

    As a result, I find myself a little more dependent on the trash my cable provider puts out. So, I come to realizations such as this thread. And, it gives us a chance to discuss the merits/debits of an increasing technological base and how it REALLY affects the once tried-and-true avenues for entertainment.
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    Ever tried books on tape or CD, Abe? Most libraries have them. Now and then I'll get one when I've got a long drive or a mindless project to work on.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MikeL:
    Ever tried books on tape or CD, Abe? Most libraries have them. Now and then I'll get one when I've got a long drive or a mindless project to work on.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Yup...tried 'em...they all read too damn slow! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

    Anyhow, what I was hoping for was to see this thread morph into further discussion on what will be 'entertainment' (of mass appeal) down the road a few years. Do you think it's possible for a return to a simpler era of reading, kids playing outdoors (sans skateboards and rollerblades), etc? Will the technology actually backfire on itself completely and kill its own market?
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    good question. it's entirely possible, but probable? that's another story. i really don'tknow.

    broken combs, excellent use of the phrase, "nocturnal activities"... [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

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    In the context of TV, the technology isn't the problem. It's just the facilitator.

    Like always, it's a people-problem. I watched a movie with a bunch of friends last week. They don't have very sophisticated tastes, or the experience to let a story unfold at a slower pace. We tried watching The Shining. I love that movie, and find new things in it each time I see it. They got bored because it wasn't a laugh a minute, or constant action.

    Video games are fun, but I think they're bad for kids who play them day in and day out. They create the world for the kid. All the stimulus, all the environments. How much imagination and creativity can that foster?

    I'm pretty young (25) so I'm in a generation that got bombarded with video games. They were simple. No complex stories. Nothing more gripping than a new high score. I played that Atari a lot on days when it was ugly out, or my friends weren't around.

    Other days I was out riding my bike, or playing with model airplanes. I still do those things a lot. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] I learned a bit from both of those activities.

    What do parents foster in their kids? It's easy to let the video games and computer give a parent a break now.

 

 

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