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    France and Germany are in violation of the NATO pact by refusing to protect Turkey. To my understanding, Article 14 of the agreement insures protection from all of NATO for any member that feels they need it...period. Did anyone consider that if the west didn't appear to be so disjointed that war could be avoided? The french especially deserve expulsion for their stance on any arab issue concerning the US(Libya). Cut 'em loose!

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    Thats a very good point. Article 14 is pretty cut and dry.
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    and it's not like we've ever been in violation of anything, eh [img]graemlins/devil.gif[/img]

    we need NATO, france, and germany a lot more now than they need us. NATO gives us a credible body to aid our goal of policing the world. the euros don't need us to protect them from the soviet union anymore, and what's NATO going to do for them during the glorious war on terrorism?

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    The skeptical side of me thinks that Germany and France wouldn't mind of NATO was disolved. There's no obvious threat to them anymore, at least not anything they can't handle themselves. NATO gets in the way of the EU making and enforcing its own military policy. NATO will come to an end sooner or later, as it really has outlived its purpose.

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    Originally posted by MikeL:
    The skeptical side of me thinks that Germany and France wouldn't mind of NATO was disolved. There's no obvious threat to them anymore, at least not anything they can't handle themselves. NATO gets in the way of the EU making and enforcing its own military policy. NATO will come to an end sooner or later, as it really has outlived its purpose.
    I agree with Mike's opinion on the matter. NATO has outlived it's usefulness in my opinion. The Cold War is long over.
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    Actually, we can kick France and Germany out of NATO, they are no longer needed. All those former Eastern Block nations who've joined up in the last few years can more than pick up the slack.

    If Germany doesn't want to fight I'm fine with that. They have a unique perspective on things and are sensitive about war for good reasons.

    France are simply two-face scumbags. They talk the U.N. into easing sanction on Iraq and Iraq uses the money that is supposed to go to humanitarion relief to re-arm. Then they get all pissy because homey don't play that anymore and we decide we're going to take away Saddam and his toys. They also whimpered about action in the Balkans inspite of the genocide that was going on there. Meanwhile they are fighting and killing black folks in the Ivory Coast to protect the diamond mines there. The Ivory Coast is no threat to the national security of France and people can live without diamonds, yet there they are, blasting away.

    What is the crime that the people of the Ivory Coast have commitied? They want their independance.
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    Yeah, let them form their own alliance. Old Europe doesn't think much of Turkey. Never have, never will.
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