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    It was a fumble. The refs overturned so the Patriots fans would not riot. If the replay Refs ruled that play a fumble it would have real ugly. Alot worse than what the Browns fans did a few weeks ago. Brady was putting that ball away. but the NFL would rather protect it's image than the play the play on the field. It sad that these palyers played the whole year to have their season stolen from them by the Refs.

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    looked like an incomplete pass to me, that replay is to slow to say he was putting it away, never got tucked to chest fom what I seen...GO PATS! [img]graemlins/bounce.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/bounce.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/bounce.gif[/img]

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    that replay was plenty fast enough for me to see that he was putting it away.
    another reason why the NFL and it's rules are a gongshow.

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    Unfortunately, the rule says the ball has to be tucked in for there to be a fumble...even though it seemed obvious that was a pump fake and he WAS bringing it back in...
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    Terrible call. The Pats got extremely lucky.
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    Go lay down, it was a great call! LOL

    I was on my way out of the room, saying no way it'll be overturned, he was obviously pump faking. Fortunately (or unfortunately if a Raiders fan), apparently the rule is clear, and even if he is putting the ball away, if it is a continuous motion from the arm going forward, which it CLEARLY was, it's an incomplete pass. Hey, if the Raiders had been able to make a first down when they had 2nd and 2... That was where they lost the game.

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    Although I agree that the Raiders got robbed, it could not of happened to a nicer bunch of guys. [img]smile.gif[/img]

    I think that the refs followed the rules as stated by the NFL (forward motion of the ball), regardless of what his intention was (not throwing the ball and tucking it away). Essentially, the Raiders got loop holed. Laner is right about how the NFL is handling ruling, but what can they do about it?

    This has happened a few times over the season this year, and the problem is more complicated in my mind. The whole replay/overturning of calls is taking the confidence away from the refs on the field. The whole replay concept was brought in because of weak refereeing in the mid 80s (then removed, then brought back), mostly due to the seniority issues with NFL referees. There was no retirement age and the average NFL ref was past the critical age that the NFLs physical and mental requirements demanded. Now that the refs are a bit younger (not enough, IMO), I think that replays should be removed. There are good and bad calls in every sport, we all know that is part of the game. Fix the refereeing system, shelve the replays, and play the game the way it was designed to be played.

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    12.17.17 @ 07:28 AM
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    Even Brady thought it was a fumble. He was halfway off the field, head down, when he saw it was being looked at. And I don't think the ref's called it that way to keep New England fans from rioting. They were pissed, but figured it was a fumble. The ref's didn't have to make a call here.
    Oh well, I don't hate the Raiders but I figured they would shoot themselves in the foot sooner or later.

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    Originally posted by laner:

    CFL season is only 5 months away. [img]smile.gif[/img]
    Alriiiight!!!! [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img] Minor league football!!!
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    Hey listen, allright I am a little biased being a Pats fan, but I am so pissed off that everybody is trying to say that the Pats got a gift with that call and that is why they won the game. Bottom line: Brady's hand was moving forward with the ball when woodson hit him and in the rule book that is a forward pass. That is the way it has been called all year and for a few years that I can remember so suck it up and take the loss like a man. Adam Vinatieri still had to make a 45 yard field goal to take the game into overtime and Brady had to make a few 3rd down completions in overtime to get into field goal range, but no one remembers that, right! Hey there are a lot of rules in sports that I don't like, for instance the possesion arrow in college basketball, but those are the rules and we have to deal with wins or losses based on those rules so suck it! I am a big Charles Woodson fan being that he is from Michigan but he can suck a fart out of my ass too. His arm was moving forward, you lost suck it up. Allright, that being said, Go PATS! and Go Ravens! [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]
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    The Patriots were full value for their victory. Down 13-3 in the 4th and they come back to force OT and then drive the field converting on a 4th down situation so Vinaterri could kick the game winning FG. Believe me I was the first to say the game was over when the Raiders apparently had the ball following Brady's turnover. According to the rule if their is forward progress ie-a passing motion the play is ruled an incomplete pass. Whether he was pump faking is irrelevant because of the fact his arm was still in a forward motion when he lost the ball. I can't friggin believe the Pats are 1 win away from the Superbowl. Pittsburgh just beat the Ravens and I thing the Patriots will give the Steelers a good run for their money. Pats 23 Steelers 17. GO PATRIOTS!!!!
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    I'm a Steelers fan, so I gotta do this...

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    Originally posted by BigBadBrian:
    Alriiiight!!!! [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img] Minor league football!!!
    no dude, it's not that. it's just that the way the rules are and game is played, it's a million times more exciting to watch. frankly i agree with you. it's a shame that the canadian dollar is doing as bad as it is.

    let me say again that the call was a good call. the refs went by the book like they were supposed to. my beef is with the NFL rule book, as i am for a bunch of other reasons.

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    Originally posted by Pasadena Murdock:
    It was a fumble. The refs overturned so the Patriots fans would not riot. If the replay Refs ruled that play a fumble it would have real ugly. Alot worse than what the Browns fans did a few weeks ago. Brady was putting that ball away. but the NFL would rather protect it's image than the play the play on the field. It sad that these palyers played the whole year to have their season stolen from them by the Refs.

    Side note I am a Pittsburgh Steelers fan just to make it known that this post is not from a pissed off Raider Fan.
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