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    I saw this kinda mentioned over in 'Speculation' I think, so I wanted to kinda give my little speal on it.

    Being a Canadian I have enjoyed what some would call 'free' health care all my life. 'Socialist' programs I think are a huge benefit to society. Yes, as Canadians we pay extremely high taxes, but you know the highways I drive to work on are first rate, if I am sick I am covered, if I am laid off (which has happened 3 times this year) I receive unemployment benefits, and the list goes on.

    Now, and I don't mean to bash here or anything, but from what I see my opinion of the USA is that yeah there is an 'American Dream' but it is for those who can afford it. If your in the USA and you get Cancer with no insurance your fucked, you will lose everything. Not the case here.

    Also, America is 'Capitalist' based, meaning that it will always be the rich who do well, the country was set up by the rich and made so they would stay rich. I bet you the homeless rate in the USA is more than the entire population of Canada, easily. That is sad.

    Now contradictory to my post here, and this is more to Ford, Corporate welfare is here to man. It will never go away, at least not until the most important thing in life is making money, either individually or corporately. Tax breaks and favouritism is given to companies here as well. But, you know what? Companies will say 'ok, you want jobs here, give us a break' or companies will say 'hey, you want jobs here, then you just ignore those pollution studies'...is the way of business, and business is what makes the economy roll along.

    You think you have it bad down there with 'corporate welfare'...try being the country who got fucked on the free trade deal and lost all their high paying manufacturing jobs to cheap labour in the USA.

    well, have fun, is my little speeal. Next speal will be hockey!
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    as a fellow canadian, i completely agree. [img]smile.gif[/img]

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    If it works for you bro, peachy.

    For me however, I'd rather have responsibility over my own money rather than a government. I will just never see where it is justified for the government to take MY shit for things I should be responsible for myself, and perfectly capable...as is everyone else. [img]graemlins/irked.gif[/img]

    Its just a matter of principle man. You feel ok about other people taking your money without asking and without your consent to use on things that they think they can do better for you THAN you, and I just flat out DONT.

    More homeless than the entire population of Canada?? Hopefully your just using hyperbole in an effort to boost your point. If thats the case, whatever, but if you believe that, your flat out whacky.
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    The rich will always piss on the poor it's the way of nature, it's human nature...

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    Dear Socialist/Communist/Globalist,

    My fellow Americans have not been fighting your ilk and train of thought for the past 50 plus years because we have nothing better to do. It is because your system is oppressive, dehumanizing, mindless, and evil. You claim that your way is to help the common man. The only thing you help the common man out in is his unwittingly giving up his freedoms. You complain about the rich making too much money and having too much control. Yet you would give that same power solely to a government in "hopes" that it will "take care" of you. So, basically what you're saying is a few select people, in your wonderful type of government, will hold all the power and the vast majority of the wealth and natural resources. At least in a capitalist society everyone has the possibility to become rich and powerful. In your society you are nothing but mindless drones. To live as cattle. How wonderful. A mindless existence. Are you going to let them tell you how many children you should have? Maybe they can tell how many times you can wipe your ass or how many steps you can take to the fridge to get your government produced food. All communist should be hung from the nearest tree. A person who does not love and appreciate freedom is not truely human. Take your out of date(out of reality and common sense) communist manifesto, tear it up, and put it in your crack pipe and smoke it with all the other shit you do on a regular basis. Because it's nothing but a pipe dream, bucko.
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    <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by DLR'sCock:
    The rich will always piss on the poor it's the way of nature, it's human nature...<hr></blockquote>


    Dude check your Pm's.

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    Geez gully.
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    quote:
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    In your society you are nothing but mindless drones.


    Doin some good droning there yourself Gully!

    You copying that from a text or you've been so well trained you can do it on the fly? [img]graemlins/drunk.gif[/img]

    [ January 06, 2002 at 07:46 PM: Message edited by: Goo ]

    A little zen....... Headed your way.......

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    Globalism? Sounds like Gully is afraid that Americans can't compete on a level playing field. Fucking cowardly isolationist.

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    no one said our system was perfect. if it was that bad here, we wouldn't have so many people trying to get in, would we?
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    dude (VG), you're way out of context buddy. this is canada, not cuba. we have just as much freedoms as you do. the main thing is that we have universal health care and public education.
    so, god forbid if you ever fell off that cloud you're on, you'd be okay and you wouldn't have you worry about how you were gonna pay for it. believe it or not, there are more important things in the world than money. [img]smile.gif[/img]

    by the way, do you piss on homeless people when you walk past them?

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    Gully has gladly taken advantage of free medical care from his Uncle Sam. He's a hypocrite, and will be until he starts bitching about the US Government sending him a yearly earnings statement that in no way reflects what he made before taxes. They take your military pay, then try to make you feel better about it by adding the value of the services and benefits you receive to it. That's not different in any way from the government taxing you for health care. Gully'll try to say that it is, but he'll just be blowing smoke.

    Not that that's ever happened before... [img]tongue.gif[/img]

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    <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by laner:

    by the way, do you piss on homeless people when you walk past them?<hr></blockquote>

    Again, intead of addressing the evils of toltalitarian type governments(Socialism, Communism, Globalism, Nazism), the radical left-wing makes insinuations about someone's character in effort to distract from the true issue(s).

    By the way, laner, when you walk by a homeless person do you give them a helping hand? Or do wait for the government to tell you what to do?
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    <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by MikeL:
    Gully has gladly taken advantage of free medical care from his Uncle Sam. He's a hypocrite, and will be until he starts bitching about the US Government sending him a yearly earnings statement that in no way reflects what he made before taxes. They take your military pay, then try to make you feel better about it by adding the value of the services and benefits you receive to it. That's not different in any way from the government taxing you for health care. Gully'll try to say that it is, but he'll just be blowing smoke.

    Not that that's ever happened before... [img]tongue.gif[/img]
    <hr></blockquote>

    Good try, Mike. But once again you fail. The military benefits are no different than any other business in the U.S.A. offers their employees. They're called benefits, Mike. They are used to entice people to sign up. Just like 401ks, pensions, bonuses, Cost of living, company cars, life insurance, medical insurance(eye and dental included), profit sharing, and many other numerous devices that are used to attract people to various different companies. You should know better, Mike. A very weak arguement on your behalf. And the only one blowing smoke here is you. Go argue with the commies who want to take away your freedoms; not with a man who helps protect your freedom to be an obnoxious twit.
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    <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Goo:

    Doin some good droning there yourself Gully!

    You copying that from a text or you've been so well trained you can do it on the fly? :hiccup
    <hr></blockquote>

    That's all me, Goo-baby! I's gots skills.
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