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    http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...8-pledge_x.htm

    I am beginning to think we are going to hell before my eyes. When the fuck did we let these people run what is good in our country? Really, we have let the do gooders and simple minded take over this country. What happened to the good times when we did things for what the majority of the people want?
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    i don't know executioner - it seems pretty straightforward to me. our founding fathers and the constitution established the seperation of church and state. plus, "under god" was never in the pledge originally.

    i think we have much bigger problems than "under god", but it's an easy way to get under people's skin. i'd rather have every citizen vote (or at least show up and abstain), than hear the pledge. the pledge is nice, but too many people set their beer down at game and think they're patriotic heroes.

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    Originally posted by Ikeda:
    i don't know executioner - it seems pretty straightforward to me. our founding fathers and the constitution established the seperation of church and state. plus, "under god" was never in the pledge originally.
    Separation of church and state is a misleading metaphor. That our government is based on a complete separation of church and state is a fallacy. In brief, the phrase "wall of separation" is nowhere to be found in the Constitution itself; rather, it is a phrase the U.S. Supreme Court coined in Everson v. Bd. of Educ. , 330 U.S. 1 (1947). While the framers of the Constitution thought it wise not to establish an official state religion (i.e. the Anglican Church), they never contemplated a society in which religion was completely circumscribed from the official or public life of the United States. We elect the members of Congress to represent our interests--I have little doubt that when they added the phrase "under God" in 1954 that they did just that. While much has changed since 1954, I believe a majority of the country is comfortable with the inclusion of these two words in the Pledge of Allegiance. "God" means something different to different people. It is not, "one nation under Jesus Christ" or "under Allah" or "under Yaweh." The phrase is broad enough to be more inlcusive than exclusive. I know, I know not all religions are monotheistic. I've got to stop because I could waste far too much time on this. Bottom line: it seems to me that the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals lost sight of all of this--their decision is sheer lunacy.
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    that bitch that plays basketball in michigan pisses me the fuck off when she turns her back on the flag

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    Fuck this, the pledge has existed for years. It's the way it is. It's the national pledge to the stars and stripes. If you don't want to pledge that to our flag FINE....Then DON'T!!!! Easy enough? The majority of America grew up with it from generation to generation. If it causes that much of a problem for these NIMBY'S craving attention. Have an Anti-American pledge ceremony at your own home. Where you can burn the flag, bitch about our country, enjoy your freedom that you so greatly protest, gather the family and all share a big glass of SHUT THE FUCK UP!!! Well, to put it nicely. [img]smile.gif[/img]
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    Originally posted by Ou812max:
    Fuck this, the pledge has existed for years. It's the way it is. It's the national pledge to the stars and stripes. If you don't want to pledge that to our flag FINE....Then DON'T!!!! Easy enough? The majority of America grew up with it from generation to generation. If it causes that much of a problem for these NIMBY'S craving attention. Have an Anti-American pledge ceremony at your own home. Where you can burn the flag, bitch about our country, enjoy your freedom that you so greatly protest, gather the family and all share a big glass of SHUT THE FUCK UP!!! Well, to put it nicely. [img]smile.gif[/img]
    max come on down here sometime cuz i wanna buy ya a fuckin beer! [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]

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    Originally posted by oldno.7:
    ..."God" means something different to different people. It is not, "one nation under Jesus Christ" or "under Allah" or "under Yaweh." The phrase is broad enough to be more inclusive than exclusive...
    Now here's one we haven't heard a million times. And it bears repeating.

    Good on ya, Ol'#7!
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    Originally posted by JMJ:
    max come on down here sometime cuz i wanna buy ya a fuckin beer! [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]
    Right back at you my avitar bro! If we get some normal snow next year bail up here and we'll ski up a mutha fukka and I'll buy you a thousand beers. You might like this local delicacy:

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    Originally posted by Ou812max:
    </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by JMJ:
    max come on down here sometime cuz i wanna buy ya a fuckin beer! [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]
    Right back at you my avitar bro! If we get some normal snow next year bail up here and we'll ski up a mutha fukka and I'll buy you a thousand beers. You might like this local delicacy:

    </font>[/QUOTE]scha-wing!

    soo be there!

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    [quote]Originally posted by Ou812max:
    You might like this local delicacy:

    The Beer or the Broad?
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    Originally posted by JMJ:
    that bitch that plays basketball in michigan pisses me the fuck off when she turns her back on the flag

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    The stupid broad probably enjoys all the attention she's getting. I just hit the remote when they show her on TV. It's not news worthy really. There's lots of people just as stupid as she is that don't get any press. She'll fade away soon enough.
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    For margeritas and several Buddy wisers later, I say say send all of the imports that are living in america and cause us to change our fundamental way of living to their own country. The moon would do. This is America where we were built on honest to goodness morals...well, for the most part, and they have all been picked to death to serve the few bastards that don't like the american way. I love america and will never leave, but we have practically hanged ourselves trying to serve the few. GOD BLESS AMERICA, LAND THAT I LOVE. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america, one nation under god, idivisible, with liberty, and justice for all. (I hope for my sake I got that right because I am having a hard time focusing)... [img]graemlins/drunk.gif[/img]
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    I don't think they should pledge for two reasons:

    1) It IS a violation of church and state

    and 2) it is done so often and so routine that it has lost all meaning, the vast majority of the kids that do it everyday in school have no idea why they are doing it or what it stands for, it's just part of their schedule, like brushing their teeth.

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    Good grief charlie brown.
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    Originally posted by Executionor:
    Good grief charlie brown.
    exactly

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