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    Check this out. Keep in mind that Rush is not the source. rush limbaugh
    believe the lies...there is no truth

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    oh c'mon swage- rush? you can do better than that. you should have just gone straight to the sources instead of sullying your name with EIB

    funny how everything that rush cites dates from no later than the mid 80s. giving him the benefit of the doubt, which is awfully generous since he's a liar, i would still point out that he forgot to contextualize this information. you know, with photos of rumsfeld shaking hands with saddam, invoices of weapons, including chemical, provided by us to our boy saddam, the reagan/bush white house's non-reaction to saddam gassing the kurds, and so on.

    i don't believe chirac is a saint, but i'd find it hard to believe he's dirtier than the US when it comes to iraq and the 80s. we're still buying oil off of iraq right now, and france probably is too. but at least chirac didn't do over 20 millions dollars worth of business with saddam in '98, unlike dick cheney.

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    Ikeda- I tried to bypass Rush for this very reason but the source provides this info in the "pay" section of their site. I'm not trying to make anybody dirtier than anybody else in the manner that you spoke of. Just sharing some shit that ain't hit the fan yet. If this info is true, this is further evidence that Chiraq's opposition is not rooted in the idea of peace and the sanctity of human life. That's all.
    believe the lies...there is no truth

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    shit, you have to pay for parts of his web site?
    what, is he hurting now that he doesn't have the show & books? those alimony payments must be hurting

    i don't blame you for going the cheap route.

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    Yup, all this is old news in France. It has been in the media for more than 10 years. Some people were even more pro-Iraq than Chirac.
    It started in the 1970s, at a time where every western power had their favorite dictator. It's not that the US didn't want to be friendly towards Hussein at that time. They would have loved to. It's just that they had put their bet on another of the region's many cruel dictators, Iran's Shah. The democratic regime of Iran's Mossadegh had been toppled in the 1950's by a US-backed coup to install the Shah's absolute power.
    But come 1979 and the Iranian revolution: America, not very good friends with Iraq because they had backed Iran, also didn't have any allies within the new regime in Iran. And that also worsened with the hostage crisis.
    Sadly, all the western powers at the time were backing dictators, France and America included. France mainly in Africa and Burma, the US in Chile, Central America, Saudi Arabia (still to this day), Kuwait, South Korea, the list would be too long.
    As a result, the US, very sadly (for people who sell weapons), sold less weapons to Iraq than Russia and France. Not that they didn't want to, but other countries had signed deals first.

    Chirac is certainly not a pacifist. He has repeatedly sent troops to various parts of the world in the past. He has broken the law, taken bribes, done all kinds dirty deeds in his very long political carrier. It just happens that for once in his life, he has stumbled upon a good cause, and is defending it. Probably for the wrong reasons. In my opinion, it is a good cause nonetheless.
    Being anti-Gulf War II doesn't automatically make you pro-Chirac.
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    Originally posted by Ikeda:
    shit, you have to pay for parts of his web site?
    what, is he hurting now that he doesn't have the show & books? those alimony payments must be hurting

    i don't blame you for going the cheap route.
    OH MY GOD! Guys like you hear "Rush" and you go into spastic fits. Read my post...I explicitly state that Rush IS NOT the source of this info. Rush states the source of the story in his summation. They have a pay area in their site.
    believe the lies...there is no truth

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    Actually, France has already surrendered. They just issued a statement:

    "The nation of France wishes to express it's full and unconditional surrender to the nation of Iraq. We, with one voice, openly welcome our new Arabian overlords."

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    Originally posted by swage:
    </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Ikeda:
    shit, you have to pay for parts of his web site?
    what, is he hurting now that he doesn't have the show & books? those alimony payments must be hurting

    i don't blame you for going the cheap route.
    OH MY GOD! Guys like you hear "Rush" and you go into spastic fits. Read my post...I explicitly state that Rush IS NOT the source of this info. Rush states the source of the story in his summation. They have a pay area in their site. </font>[/QUOTE]You have to go to the Democratic Underground to get any real, unbiased information.
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    Originally posted by JeffHarshman:
    Actually, France has already surrendered. They just issued a statement:

    "The nation of France wishes to express it's full and unconditional surrender to the nation of Iraq. We, with one voice, openly welcome our new Arabian overlords."
    We will never surrender!!!!!
    Viva La Iraq

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    Non, mon partenaire dans le crime et je préfère trouffles!

    Viva La Iraq

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    Originally posted by Jacques CHIRAQ:
    Non, mon partenaire dans le crime et je préfère trouffles!

    Pardon my french but, two partners in crime prefer See's candy?

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    Originally posted by ericgtr:
    Pardon my french
    Your hostile threat has taken its toll on my countrymen
    Viva La Iraq

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    LMAO - That was one hell of a fight too

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    "We will never surrender!!!!!"
    Yeah...pass the schnitzel, 'Jacques'.

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