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    We all owe Ronny respect, love and adoration for his neutralizing victory over the most dangerous threat the world has ever seen. The cold war. The implications are mind boggling. Think what life today would or could be like today if we were not strong then.

    Through his brilliance, the arms race with Russia was won, the collapse of communism was part of the victory as well. All by the doings of a man that was completely underestimated in his BRILLIANCE. He had the soviet economy pegged. He knew they couldn't keep up. The introduction of star wars put them over the top. They went broke. We won and didn't come close to going broke.

    The critics...

    Do you remember when we were going to school in the eighties and had a constant paranoia about nuclear holocaust?? Each side had enough weapons to destroy the world like a zillion times over (actually, U.S. 10, U.S.S.R 2). Ronnie stood fast despite the critics on military funding and ran the ruskies economically into the dirt. He knew EXACTLY what he was doing through this calculated effort, and he did it in two administrations. We owe the freedom and way of life that we have now to this man and his administration. REMEMBER THE COLD WAR.

    It SICKENS me to see his name come up in various threads here as not being the sharpest tool, reaganomics ruined this and that, blah blah blah. This man could very well be the most influential figure in the last century. We owe him for our very freedom and happiness that we have today. Where is our patriotism?!?! Where is his credit due?!?! Where do we get off slagging this HERO of American history?!?! Hypocrites!!!

    Kennedy put the turbo's on. By the time it got to Ronnie, he had had enough!! He put the screws down and we won. Mutually assured destruction, an already present detourant to war, was and is the peacekeeper that remains in place to this day with but without the threat of communist russia holding it over our heads.

    We now have a new enemy that is called terrorism. That sucks ass, but at least we don't have communist Russia to worry about with it. Think of who they would have loved to team up with THESE DAYS, to conquer the evil american empire....SCARY!!

    Thanks Ronnie (TRUE AMERICON HERO)!!

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    Nothing to discuss...You speak the truth, seen!!
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    Originally posted by SactoFan:
    Nothing to discuss...You speak the truth, seen!!
    Something tells me that opinions MAY vary on this. lol.....just maybe. [img]smile.gif[/img]
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    My thoughts coming soon...stay tuned [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]

    sidenote: I used to think the same way you do. I actually had a Ronnie poster in my room, I admired the guy so much. Then I woke up.

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    i'd compliment ronnie on being morally opposed to the soviet union, and making no bones about it. but as far as his role as this mythical dragon slayer? bullshit.

    communism was a deeply, deeply flawed system. apart from the abuses and crimes carried out by soviet leadership, the centrally planned economy did not work. even with their abundant resources, the soviets held super power status for less than 50 years. reagan was just the caretaker when the house across the street fell down.

    as for the idea that we purposefully outspent the soviets on military technology in order to drive their economy into ruin, that's a laughable bit of historical revisionism. that was never planned, much less forseen. the fall of communism found the first bush administration basically with its dick in its hand. neither that administration, nor clinton's or dub's has ever stepped into the vaccum of soviet power to stabalize the new republics.

    as for reagan, he sold his party over to the religous right, began a series of dangerous deregulation in the government, drove us into debt, and betrayed fiscal conservatives everywhere.

    but you knew all that okay, let the bitching begin...

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    Great post man...Ronnie Rules.

    need to pay tribute to him while he's still vertical.
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    Originally posted by SactoFan:
    Nothing to discuss...You speak the truth, seen!!
    "YES" right on! The vast right wing conspiracy must stick together [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]
    Fire ants, Red Ants, vegetables, tree-huggers and left wing militants (communists, marxist, lennon/mccartney, socialists, all things touchy feely etc..) suck ass [img]graemlins/devil.gif[/img]

    Reagan was a good man and his disease is nothing to laugh about. Props to Nancy for watching after him in these tough times. Wasn't one of his daughters in Playboy? Rock on.......
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    Originally posted by strungout:


    My thoughts coming soon...stay tuned [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]

    sidenote: I used to think the same way you do. I actually had a Ronnie poster in my room, I admired the guy so much. Then I woke up.
    This should be good. lol. Dude, I think you need to go back to sleep and wake back up on the RIGHT side of the bed where you know deep down in your heart, you belong.

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    Yes, I'd encourage Strungout to switch teams too. [img]smile.gif[/img]

    Reagan was in the right time at the right place, but he played the game well. His policies left us with a mountain of debt that we're still burdened with, but such is life. He did put some fear into the Soviets.

    I do think that he was set up for success by Carter and Ford. Most of the military technologies he was a staunch proponent of were developed and readied for deployment by his predecessors. His one big program (SDI) never got off the ground, for better or worse. It did drive the Soviets to devote even more of their industry to defense than they already were, so it accomplished that at least.

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    Originally posted by Ikeda:

    as for the idea that we purposefully outspent the soviets on military technology in order to drive their economy into ruin, that's a laughable bit of historical revisionism. that was never planned, much less forseen. the fall of communism found the first bush administration basically with its dick in its hand. neither that administration, nor clinton's or dub's has ever stepped into the vaccum of soviet power to stabalize the new republics.

    as for reagan, he sold his party over to the religous right, began a series of dangerous deregulation in the government, drove us into debt, and betrayed fiscal conservatives everywhere.

    but you knew all that okay, let the bitching begin...
    You need to read a book or twenty, Ikeda...Pretty much everything you wrote is wrong.

    Could you try to define "dangerous deregulation?"

    Presidents don't drive us into debt...A free-spending Congress does that and DID that during the 80's.

    What "betrayal of "fiscal conservatives" are you talking about?
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    Originally posted by SactoFan:
    Presidents don't drive us into debt...A free-spending Congress does that and DID that during the 80's.
    I don't think that's a fair statement. It ignores the fact that the president submits the proposed budget to Congress every year. Have you ever taken a look at the budgets proposed by Reagan? Massive defense spending, among other things, caused every single budget he proposed to be well into the deficit spending category.

    Also, your statement ignores the President's veto power. If Reagan didn't like the spending enactments by the "free-spending Congress," then all he had to do was pick up his veto pen more often. Blame is shared fairly equally, in my book, between Reagan and Congress for the massive increase in the national budget deficit during Reagan's presidency.

    When you think about it, Reagan's ability to get ANYTHING accomplished -- at a time when both the House and the Senate were in the hands of the Democrats -- is testament to his leadership skills and his ability to win popular support for his proposals. Of course, it's fairly easy to be popular when you spend more than you can afford. You make a lot of people happy and make much fewer enemies.

    I may disagree with a lot of Reagan's politics, but I respect him. He gave a lot of Americans reason to be proud about being Americans at a time when the nation desperately needed it.

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    It's hard to question Reagan's sense of optimism, morality, and patriotism. Easily my favorite leader/politician.
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    Originally posted by SactoFan:
    You need to read a book or twenty, Ikeda...Pretty much everything you wrote is wrong.

    Could you try to define "dangerous deregulation?"

    Presidents don't drive us into debt...A free-spending Congress does that and DID that during the 80's.

    What "betrayal of "fiscal conservatives" are you talking about?
    off the top of my head - the S&Ls, and airlines. other politicians had hands in these pies, but ronnie set trumpeted "less governement" by which he really meant "less oversight and regulation."
    is there room for reform there? sure, but gutting government regulation for the gain of monied interest isn't "good government." clinton made the same mistake with the FCC.

    anytime you want to talk about "leadership" and "rugged individualism," ronnie's a saint. but anytime you want a scapegoat, he was defenseless before the awesome might of a democratic congress. HE SIGNED THOSE BILLS! yes, democrats were also responsible for much of the pork, but they weren't the ones elected president. who says, "remember the congressional sessions in the early 70s? wow." they remember nixon going to china, they remember vietnam.

    last time i checked, neither defeceit spending, or "trickle down" economics appear in the fiscal conservative handbook. fiscal conservatism used to serve as an excellent check on government spending. now we have two parties arguing over whether large amounts of money should go to the social net, big business, military, "faith based charities," our debt (again), and so on.

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    Reagan came to my college in 1988 to campaign for Bush. Talk about being larger than life~! he looked like he was 7 feet tall and built like a Mac Truck! [img]graemlins/scared.gif[/img] He was a big dude even at THAT age!

    funny thing happened too--during his speech, a balloon popped and right on cue he said "You missed!" [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]

    he did have a great poker face against the USSR!
    Eat Us and Smile!

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    Originally posted by seenbad:
    </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by strungout:


    My thoughts coming soon...stay tuned [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]

    sidenote: I used to think the same way you do. I actually had a Ronnie poster in my room, I admired the guy so much. Then I woke up.
    This should be good. lol. Dude, I think you need to go back to sleep and wake back up on the RIGHT side of the bed where you know deep down in your heart, you belong.

    (watch out for the ants!!! )
    </font>[/QUOTE]Will you guys EVER let me live down that goddamn ant story??? Sheesh. [img]graemlins/drunk.gif[/img]

 

 

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