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    So who do you guys pick to win the big fight on Saturday? I definately think that Tyson will win!!!

    Lewis and his little girl jaw couldn't even take Rahman's right hand, wait until he feels Tyson's.

    The only thing I am worried about is that Tyson is unstable, and has been for some time. It would be bad for boxing if he got disqualified again. Who knows what he will do?! [img]graemlins/scared.gif[/img] I hope that he fights by the rules, doesn't foul, and just beats on Lewis with his fists and KO's him. [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]

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    Here is an interesting article that I found. Tyson and Lewis sparred years ago when they were teenagers........

    LEWIS BRIEF WITH FINAL REMARKS!






    June 5, 2002

    By Andre Courtemanche


    Lennox Lewis was economical with words during his final press conference before the Saturday fight with Mike Tyson. Instead of speaking at length about the upcoming battle, Lewis chose to relay a story about Tyson’s inability to knock him out in 1983 when the two sparred as amateurs.

    The following is a transcript of Lewis’ remarks:

    In 1983 when I was boxing for the World Junior Championships, I needed some sparring. We were searching everywhere for sparring partners and we couldn’t find any, but we heard about this young cat up in New York named Mike Tyson. My trainer and me got on the road and we drove up to Catskills New York to a little gym like an old fire station. There was a guy in there named Mike Tyson and another guy named Cus D’Amato. We went in their and we said okay, ‘we’re going to help each other do some sparring.

    The first day when we stepped into the ring to spar, this cat came out rushing at me and he was trying to knock me out, so I gave him my Muhammad Ali impression and I was dancing around boxing. We were going at it pretty good for four days and Mike Tyson never knocked me out in those four days. He did give me a fat lip, but I gave him a bloody mouth, so we’re even on that exchange. After all that sparring Cus D’Amato did say one thing that always stuck in my mind. He said one day you and Mike Tyson will meet.

    Time went and I didn’t think it would come true, but it has come true. It’s evident that its here, and just like back then, I predict this Saturday, will be real explosive the same way. The only thing is I’m not going to give him a Muhammad Ali impression; I’m going to give him a Lennox Lewis impression. I’m a pugilistic specialist and I’m going to go in there and do what comes naturally. I’m very focused and very positive. I can’t wait and I’m looking forward to this.

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    Unfortunately, heavyweight boxing is so bereft of courage and so mindful of the bottom line. Tyson is a joke and shouldn't even be getting licensed anywhere. He is a disgrace to the sport.

    As to predictions, if Lewis BOXES Tyson, jabs CONSTANTLY, and is fast on his feet, he should win. I don't think many people have the punching power to floor Mike. Lewis should out point Tyson here.

    If Lewis gets too brave and tries a toe to toe fight, and if Tyson really connects on a few, Lewis won't be able to take it. His jaw has so much glass it should be in six packs holding soda...
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    Here is another article....

    Lennon Jr: Lewis is intimidated!

    Ring announcer Jimmy Lennon Jr., who along with Michael Buffer will introduce the fighters for Saturday's big Lewis-Tyson fight, pegs Tyson to be a KO winner. "Conventional boxing wisdom says that Lennox Lewis should win," said Lennon. "Lewis has the physical advantages of being taller and heavier with a longer reach. Lewis has been more active, fought better quality opposition and has always done well in fights where he does not underestimate his opponent...that being said, there is not a more dangerous in the world of boxing than Mike Tyson. A single left hook could neutralize any advantage Lewis has. I also sense that Lewis fears Tyson due to the fact that he has demonstrated concern over who is going to protect him in the ring. It is a comment unbefitting of a confident heavyweight champion, and it indicates to me that he is intimidated. Therefore, my prediction is that Tyson will land a big shot that will change Lewis' game plan and allow Tyson to eventually knock him out."
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    This is what Teddy Atlas, Tyson's former trainer has to say about the fight.

    ATLAS: LEWIS/TYSON NOT A DREAM MATCHUP!

    June 5, 2002

    By Andre Courtemanche


    “Let’s get together and bring beer and food and let’s watch Godzilla.”
    --Teddy Atlas guessing the mentality of people purchasing the Tyson/Lewis PPV

    Teddy Atlas, the superb trainer and ESPN2 broadcaster, held court with the media to discuss his thoughts on the Tyson vs. Lewis showdown Saturday in Memphis. If the attending press were hoping to hear an in-depth analysis on the nuances of an intriguing heavyweight struggle, they were sadly disappointed. Atlas hates this fight and is quite clear on the reasons why. Atlas feels that Tyson is undeserving of a title shot, too mentally unstable to maintain a spirited challenge and rather boring when stripped of his legendary image.

    Atlas’ theory is that the public’s interest in Tyson/Lewis is akin to car wrecks and seedy talk shows. “This (the popularity of the fight) is a statement on society. It’s the same reason why people watch Jerry Springer,” he said. “I think it’s disgraceful, but there’s a morbid curiosity to this fight. When you’re driving home and you see an accident, there’s a lot of rubbernecking. People want to see other people in peril. They don’t wish peril on anyone, but they want to see it.”

    As for the suggestion that Tyson/Lewis is good for boxing because it will attract non-fans to the sport? Not so says Atlas. “People aren’t tuning into this fight for an athletic event. If you take the last eight years of Tyson, if you took his name away and what that name brings. If you took that away and just saw a guy who throws one punch at a time and grabs you after he punches. Why would anyone want to see that? I don’t know how many people will buy tickets to see it live. As far as the pay-per-view, I think it’ll do well, but I think it’ll be like a Superbowl party where everyone will get together and say, “let’s see what this maniac does.”

    While the award winning broadcaster’s take is a depressingly negative one, it is also highly informed. Atlas was Tyson’s original trainer dating all the way back to his amateur career. Their relationship reportedly ended badly with a gun to Tyson’s head in retaliation for an unspecified deed involving his eleven-year-old sister-in-law. “I think the most unfortunate part that Tyson brings is not so much what he does personally. That may surprise people but I think what’s interesting and unfortunate and the worst part of Tyson is that he brings out the worst in other people. I was thinking about this the other day. If a child brings out unconditional love, Tyson brings out unconditional greed in people. That’s ugly to see. As much as unconditional love is pretty to see, the unconditional greed is ugly to see. He makes people sell themselves for money. I think Mike gets a kick out of this and does it to mock people and make them lower than him.”

    Are some of Atlas’ opinions personal venom based on the history between himself and Tyson? “No, I don’t think so,” he said. “I do believe I understand both sides of the ledger. I know there are people who might make me the recipient of a grudge and say bad things about me, so I try to be even-handed when I talk about someone I’m not crazy about. I’m not crazy about (former Tyson Trainer) Kevin Rooney, but he has been on ESPN2 with Vinny Pazienza and I think I’ve been fair to him, so no, I don’t think I’m saying what I’m saying because of anything personal.

    As for the actual boxing that will probably occur, Atlas says the outcome of the fight depends on the mind frame of the occasionally timid champion. (Emanuel Steward and Lennox Lewis) They know Tyson has trouble with pressure. They know that if you put the heat on him he’ll crumble. I believe they’ll try to catch Tyson with punches early on, in a proper responsible way, but they’ll try and take control of him quickly. I think it’s important for Tyson to feel pressure. I really do believe that it’ll be a matter of how much pressure Tyson has to deal with. If he doesn’t have to deal with anything, he’ll walk in and be a champion again. However, if he has to deal with overcoming things, it’ll be a different story.”

    “The first round could be a knockout. I could see Tyson landing a punch early on. I could see Lewis hurting Tyson with a punch and getting a little greedy and getting caught with a big punch that turns the fight around. Most people think that Tyson is dangerous in the first four rounds. I disagree. I think because of the nature of Lewis, and his tendency to be a little defensive at times, if it falls into that kind of fight, Tyson will be dangerous all night. If Tyson is fighting a guy who is defensive, he is always dangerous. It’s when you pressure Mike that he becomes no longer dangerous. He didn’t bite Holyfield because he’s an animal. He didn’t bite Holyfield because of the mean streets. He didn’t bite Holyfield because he was hungry. He did it because he couldn’t handle the situation.”

    Does Atlas see this fight as the end for Tyson? “You don’t have to be Nostradamus to predict that Tyson’s life probably won’t end well. Maybe it’s a wish and maybe a lot of people feel the same way. It depends how he loses. If he gets obliterated, he’s done. If a guest on Jerry Springer doesn’t spit on anyone, if he doesn’t start a fight, he’s not coming back. People watch Tyson for the Jerry Springer factor. They watch for who he’s going to hurt, or who he’s going to assault. If he loses like an inadequate fighter who isn’t’ good enough anymore, it’ll be all done for him.”
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    What does one need to order this fight? I've never done pay-per-view before. I just have standard cable and I don't have a cable box. I also don't have Directv or any satellite provider. What do I need to do to get this?

    Also, I predict Lewis to win either by decision or Tyson disqualification.

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    If you don't have a cable box I don't think you can order PPV. But I could be wrong. I would save your money anyway. The fight probably won't last more than a few rounds before Tyson does something stupid, and then you can watch it on ESPN.
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    I don't think ESPN, or anyone besides Showtime or HBO will be able to re-broadcast the fight. Your probably not that familiar with PPV fights, unless you pick up some Mexican stations, your not going to see the fight without PPV or one of the premium channels.

    Also, usually your cable provider offers Cable Boxes for rent, there not that expensive, and allot of times it's just a deposit that's required, in addition to the actual price of the fight itself.

    About the fight, I have been a huge boxing fan since I was a kid, and I, like allot of us that remember Tyson back in his heyday can only think of him as such, when he was the baddest guy on the planet. But that's not the case anymore, he's not even the guy that lost to Evander twice.
    But! They are heavyweights, and anything can happen, in one punch.

    My "Probable" outcome: Lewis in 3. Hurts tyson in the 2nd round and finishes him off late in the 3rd with an overhand right, like always. Tyson get's up but isn't allowed to continue (I bet the boxing governing bodies have briefed the official on just this occurance).

    My alternate ending: Tyson destroying an overly cautious Lewis that try's to stay safe and fight on his heels (like he tries to do about half of the time). He may last 3-4 rounds fighting like this.

    It all depends on which Lewis shows up, but you will know within the first 30 seconds of the first round. If he stands and fight's, Mike's in trouble.

    This is a cool fight (for heavyweights). I dont think anyone has a complete idea what is going to happen. They suspect Lewis should beat the crap out of him, but you never know with Tyson or Lewis for that matter.

    Just my opinions though.

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    Lewis is going to fight smart and he'll beat Tyson. Hopefully after Saturday Tyson will be nothing but a foot note.
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    Both Mike and Lewis weighed in today, here is how much they weigh.....

    Lennox Lewis 249.25 vs Mike Tyson 234.5
    (Note: This is the second highest Tyson has ever weighed for a fight...he scaled in at 239 for his previous fight with Brian Nielsen. Iron Mike has never weighed more than 223 for any other bout.)
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    YankeeRose, yeah Tysons weight really suprised me.

    Dont know if his camp thought it was a good idea to put on more weight to negate Lewis's extra pounds, or maybe Tyson thinks this fight is already over and he doesn't have a chance. Either way I think it's stupid really.

    Well at least now I will enjoy it more if Tyson get's his ass kicked, love it when fighter's either make stupid decisions or just give up early.

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    tyson is not 25 years old anymore, you're not gonna see him fight at 218.

    if he is mentally prepared for the fight, he'll win regardless of the weight

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    go lewis!
    ya bad ass canadian boy! we're proud of ya, even though you defected.
    but at least you defected to the mother country.

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    Originally posted by laner:
    go lewis!
    ya bad ass canadian boy! we're proud of ya, even though you defected.
    but at least you defected to the mother country.
    I'm not proud of that traitor to Canada! Lewis makes me sick! He's not a true Canadian.

    I can't wait to see Tyson beat the living hell out of him! [img]smile.gif[/img]
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    Originally posted by willy4pres:
    YankeeRose, yeah Tysons weight really suprised me.

    Dont know if his camp thought it was a good idea to put on more weight to negate Lewis's extra pounds, or maybe Tyson thinks this fight is already over and he doesn't have a chance. Either way I think it's stupid really.

    Well at least now I will enjoy it more if Tyson get's his ass kicked, love it when fighter's either make stupid decisions or just give up early.
    Yeah he's heavy, he's only around 5'10' it's all muscle though, Mike is built like a bull.
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