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    11.19.17 @ 06:25 PM
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    all w/in 24 hours of one another.

    Tiffany-Amber Issue: After waiting for several weeks (I was assuming that my email was lost or ignored), the webmaster of Tiffany-Amber Thiessen's official website emailed me. The webmaster stated if it is her, he/she does not know about it, nor do the other websites that list her credits. So, I have to assume it is not her.

    Trademark Rights Issue: I tried to resolve as much of the question about Van Halen's TM rights as I could. The standing question that needed to be resolved was:

    The PTO database did not have a notation that indicated Van Halen had assigned its TM rights to anyone. Is this an accurate reflection of Van Halen's TM rights?

    Answer: In this particular case (Van Halen's), YES!! My Trademarks professor is a former Associate Commissioner of the Trademark Division of the PTO (meaning he knows a lot, hehe). He helped draft many of the current amendments to the TM Statute. Anyway, I asked him about the accuracy of the PTO database.

    A TM owner has a maintenance fee that must be paid between the 5th and 6th year, the 9th and 10th, etc. Any info about a particular mark or marks owned by the same owner are updated upon the payment of the maintenance fee(s).

    So, in Van Halen's case, if WB's had received an assignment from Van Halen in the original contract, as was alleged (thus, WB's would have the TM rights), it would have noted at the first maintenance payment (roughly, 1983 or 1984). Since Van Halen has paid a couple of maintenance fees since, and w/ no updates and/or notations of assignment, it is safe to presume that Van Halen continues to own the TM rights in its logo's, name's, etc.

    Sorry for the length.
    And sorry for the delay in info.



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    Thanks Olen. Can't say I understand the Trademark thing, but I watched it again yesterday and I'm still sure that isn't Tiffany.

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    Glenn: In case you missed the entire discussion/debate, the link to that thread is:
    http://www.vhlinks.com/vhlforum/Forum2/HTML/002005.html

    I tried to simplify the 'legalese' to make it understandable, otherwise I wouldn't understand it, LOL.

    If you still have a hard time grasping it, and want to know more about the topic, drop me an email at: olyacy@netscape.net

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    Olen, I read that post of yours from April 18th in that link. Thanks for providing that, that thread was one I never saw. That post was fairly clear and simplified(must have been if I understood it ).

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    Glenn: What is SO appealing about TM law, especially in regard to artists and groups, is that it is pretty straightforward and doesn't defy logic, like some parts of the law do.

    That is why I am going into Intellectual Property Law (specifically Patents) b/c it is an interesting aspect of the law and I am actually helping society by providing useful articles of manufacture (inventions) to the public to use and learn from. Most other aspects of the law (at least from economic studies performed) have been shown to detract from the economics of our society. So... Plus it pays well.

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    What does Tiffany Amber Thiesen have to do with the Van Halen Trademark name?

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    Wes, they were two totally different topics that were analyzed here at different times.

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    Wes: I posed the question about 5 weeks ago on whether the 2nd girl in the 'Hot for Teacher' video (in the classroom) was Tiffany-Amber Thiessen. I finally received an email from one of her official sites, and it said that if it was her, they were unaware of the credit.

    As for the TM discussion, I was also heavily involved in that. I have finished Trademark Law and Policy, having taken the final yesterday. There was a question whether VH still owned the rights to its trademarks. I tried to resolve it as much as I could. If you did back far enough in the archives you can find it.

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    Wes: Here is the actual link. I'm the one blathering on and on...and on...and on...
    http://www.vhlinks.com/vhlforum/Forum2/HTML/002005.html



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    Thanks Olen for using your vast education to dig up this very interesting material. It's nice when your education pays off on something you dig, huh?

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