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    Baluchitherium
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    Not long ago I was thinking about Diamond Daveís post-VH career and how itís been in a long, slow tailspin since the early 90's. It seemed that back in 1984 and beyond that we couldnít get enough of him. Enter the 90ís and the whole "Seattle Sound". It pains me to say this but Dave is basically irrelevant to the current music scene and continues to be so to this day. [img]graemlins/cry.gif[/img]

    The question: what could have saved Dave?

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    no stinkin click! muffdiver's Avatar
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    strung out....
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    not getting high on himself....got too cocky...

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    He should have done what ever it took to keep Vai and Sheenan happy and in the fold.That's not a knock on the guys that followed them, but that lineup was special and Dave let that chemistry slip away.
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    I think the fact that VH kicked succeeded like it did without Dave didn't help any either. If they failed, it would have made Dave look like a genius. Instead, it was just the opposite.
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    Baluchitherium
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    I think Dave should have abandoned the keyboard-based sound and got back to his roots: no-holds-barred party rock with that dark edge from his walk on the wrong side of the tracks (a la the first four Van Halen albums). It seemed to me that he tried to in a small way ape the new sound that was found on the Sammy-era Van Halen records.

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    1. Hair transplant/extensions
    2. Facelift
    3. Someone to slap reality into him "Wake up Rothard, 1984 was eons ago!"

    If these are done, I'm quite convinced he can start all over again in the music business.

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    Some pretty good theories have been posted already. I think it's just a combination of some of them.

    1.) Van Halen's success with Sammy Hagar
    2.) Dave's act stuck in 1984
    3.) His venture into the Las Vegas-style of a show (which I did like)

    One last theory to add into the mix: how about DLR himself. Nothing wrong with Dave being Dave but maybe it just didn't go with mainstream music.
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    Personal theory, but I think the mystique of Van Halen in the day was the combination of Dave's style and Eddie's playing. When Dave left, the two elements split and it seems more people cared about Eddie's playing than Dave's style. I don't know that anything could have saved him short of getting back with Van Halen about the time things started going downhill. He was just too much a living stereotype of the '80s - thrown out with the rest of them when everything '80s became unhip.
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    If dave had a facelift its a pretty bad one. what? ...... did he go for the aging facelift special ? ya, ok......

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    Nothing could have saved Dave! Most of the people I talk to about VH always mention the great music. That's what is timeless. Daves bullshit simply doesn't pass the test of time. Dave is not a musician but a once great front man. Something apparently people can live without. Every product has a shelf life. Dave's expired years ago! [img]tongue.gif[/img]
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    This band had everything, boys. What made the musicianship marketable ????? A larger than life, outrageous frontman like d.ro who people wanted to see.

    What made people play the recordings 'til they were worn out and you had to buy a new one ???? The musicianship of eddie.

    IN THEIR HEY-DAY..THEY WERE UNTOUCHABLE.

    THEY HAD A-LITTLE SUMTHIN' FOR EVERYBODY.

    Now.....many, many lifetimes later...dave could use ed's musicianship, and ed could use dave's publicity.

    Hmmmmmm.

 

 

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