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    I am sure everyone on this board has heard all the rumours, and most of what we have accepted as fact concerning Gene Simmons' 'discovery' of Van Halen and then subsequent failed attempt at signing them.

    It also has been alledged that Gene Simmons also had the thought of replacing Ace Frehley with Ed.

    If this had occured what do you think would have happened to change the course of rock n' roll history that we know as fact today? Would Gene and Paul have put up with Eddie's ego? Would they have put up with his alchohol abuse? Would they have liked Val? What impact (if allowed) would Ed have made on the music Kiss produced? Who would have sang, or best sounded, singing 'Running with the Devil Gene, Paul, or Peter. And of course, how would Eddie have painted his face? I say he would have been a dog! A dirty dog *lol* Would 'Beth' been a song for Val?

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    red/white stripes all over the face, like on the guitar in the Jump-Video

    persona: the wizard

    they should have added DLR too (his make up is already known, eeas-cover)

    well, KISS + VH = the ultimate superband ...
    would have outsold the Beatles and the stones together

    with simmons marketing genius, which is most definitely reeeally lame in the VH camp (check that VH-DVD, 40 $ for that piece of shitty compiled music history),a vanhalenized KISS oder a kissed Van Halen would have become bigger than Walt Disney actually.

    well, you can't rewrite history can u, right now VH doesn't even know who their singer is ... ????

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    Sounds great except no no no no no no no no no Roth! Wasn't interested in him, didn't even like him (and gee, I wonder why!).

    Remember the guy in high school you always thought was such an asshole?!?!?! Why that was David Lee Roth!
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    No offense, but all I think would happen is that there would be one group with only one exraordinary musician (EVH in Kiss) and one group completely finished (VH), leaving more VH fans to ask "What could have been?" more often than they ask themselves that now.

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    I think it woulda been a bad idea. I'm sure some of the pro-DLR fans would agree that Sam in the VH camp is better than Ed in the KISS camp. Maybe not, but sheesh. I can't see Ed playing with KISS. Ed wasn't comfy using KISSs equipment in '76, so I doubt he'd have toured with them. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Georgie:
    No offense, but all I think would happen is that there would be one group with only one exraordinary musician (EVH in Kiss) and one group completely finished (VH), leaving more VH fans to ask "What could have been?" more often than they ask themselves that now.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    I couldn't agree more. Kiss fucking sucks; if Eddie had joined Kiss, it would have been a big waste of his talent, not to mention the rest of VH. No regrets about this not ever happening...

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    Never, ever would've happened in the 1st place... Ed would've never left Al out of the picture.

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    Gene and Paul have shown an annoying habit of chasing whatever music trend is current; disco with Dynasty, pop with Unmasked once they attracted the kiddies with all the dolls and toys, metal with Creatures of the Night, Bon Jovi pop with Crazy Nights, Grunge with Carnival of Souls. The thing that made the David Lee Roth era of Van Halen special was that it was pre-mtv (or at least it was when it started) and VH were talented enough to stay away from trends.

    I don't think Eddie could have stood by while songwriters like Gene and Paul were chasing a different vibe everytime they hit the recording studio.

    Also, it seems pretty obvious that if Eddie went to KISS, Alex would have gone with him. If you're talking about 1977, Peter Criss was already becoming fairly unreliable to KISS, so if they were going to make the bold move of ditching Ace at that point, certainly Peter would have been gone too. If you're talking about the early 80's, Peter was gone and Eric Carr was in his place, but I'd bet that Gene and Paul would have had no problem knifing Eric in the back if it meant getting a guy like Eddie Van Halen in the band.

    KISS might have been fine for Eddie when he was drunk off his ass, but sober he seems to be critical of the attitudes of Sammy and Dave. If sobriety has made Sam and Dave look bad, imagine how bad it would have made Gene and Paul look. [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img]

    Bottom line, Gene Simmons is the Krusty the Clown of rock and roll. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

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    I think if Eddie left VH for Kiss, VH would have replaced him with Steve Vai, and would have continued to make great albums. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]


    Kiss with Eddie would have been a HUGE improvement, but since the rest of the band is very terrible, VH with Vai would have outsold Kiss. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]
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    IMHO that Ed will not fit in KISS, but if he did then his face make-up will picture us all a hugde GOLF-BALL.

 

 

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