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    I just saw the vh-1 special.
    And i gotta say, first of all i actually prefer the dave-era to the sammy era in terms of balls out rock.
    BUT Here's the burning question i have for all of the 'Dave or the grave' people here.
    What the HEll do you see in the guy today?
    I agree the records in the PAST were totally kick ass dynasty building records.
    But that was a LONG time ago.
    Listen to Me wise magic, and CGTSNM. Are those kick ass tunes? sorry, NO. Eddie at the time thought they were good enough to release on best of. Honestly i dont think those two songs are that good. I think CGTSNM is arguably better, but we're not talking classic VH there, are we??
    The songs that Dave did with the band in 2000 weren't up to par in eddie's eyes, so maybe they were worse than the two best of tracks

    Contrast those two songs with Human's Being.
    In my opinion, Human's Being ROCKS.
    If only sammy and eddie could have been pissed off with each other MORE during those 11 years!
    Thats the last sammy tune, and it was GREAT i think. Proving that Sammy had the chops albeit 5 years ago to do kick ass rock.

    I think that the die-hard Dave fans are living in the past and need to see the present.

    One phrase that Ed said in the special that i remember was, talking about Roth in 1996: "That's not GROWTH!"

    Face it, Ed wants to show the world he can still kick ass. We all want him to show the world that dont we? Dave would make the band look like a PARODY of itself.
    Sorry its the truth. There's dave up there thinking its still 1984. Come on....

    If theres one thing Ed wants, its to be taken seriously as a great musician. He deserves that.
    All of those polls showing VH not ranked highly among historic rock acts is possibly because of their lack of 'serious' music.
    Zeppelin made some serious music and still kicked ass. It can be done.
    You think Dave is going to go down that 'serious' road with Ed? Doubt it.

    Think of things from Ed's perspective. That might make some of this shit make more sense.

    Dave would just be an embarassment.
    It's not 1984 or 1981 anymore guys. Face it.

    I know i'll get ripped by Dave fans, but remember Ed's probably thinking these thoughts.

    I LOVE Roth-era VH. But i also realize it was 20 fucking years ago! The man is a sad parody of himself.

    At least sammy is making NEW music, mediocre music, but new. Why wont dave put out a new song or two.

    Its probably going to be sammy not Dave who comes back.

    Dave fans should open their ears up and enjoy whatever genius Ed comes up with.

    Let the argument begin!

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    disagreed.

    Roth would be fine in the band.

    Sammy is no prize either.

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    Nice Post.

    You have hit upon something important, Ed and
    Sammy created their best song when Ed and Sammy were pissed off with each other.
    Yet post after post here is about ooh I wish
    Sammy and Eddie were bestest buddies again, etc etc.

    Some people just dont get it.

    What is there to see in Roth now ??
    His unashamed free spirited personality
    (which totally pisses Ed off) is still
    alive to this day. One of *THE* most
    important ingredients of the original
    formula.

    Ed and Dave are a volatile mix.
    This reflects in the music.

    Closest Sammy ever came was when his
    time was over and he hated the brothers..

    Hmmmmm... I think there is something in that
    for all of us.

    Bring on the Happy Sammy/Ed reunion. I have
    worn out my copy of "Dreams"...

    BTW Sammy is not back in the band. Dave fans,
    start to worry if Dave starts Jamming with Mike.
    Then you will know its game over as far as a
    Van Halen reunion is concerned.

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    I would rather see Sammy back in VH than Dave, but I would be happy with either singer. This is an Opinions topic, so I will move it there.
    Right Now you're reading my post!


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    Why do we want Dave back? Play Van Halen through 1984 and then 5150-Balance and the answer is clear. Sammy Hagar is a musical joke and he brought out the worst in Eddie's playing.

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    disagreed

    this topic is so tired... - you are never going to influence ed or al, and certainly not any roth fans... can we just wait and see what happens instead of beating this already-mutilated horse?
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    Originally posted by Blaze on:
    I just saw the vh-1 special.
    And i gotta say, first of all i actually prefer the dave-era to the sammy era in terms of balls out rock.
    BUT Here's the burning question i have for all of the 'Dave or the grave' people here.
    What the HEll do you see in the guy today?
    I agree the records in the PAST were totally kick ass dynasty building records.
    But that was a LONG time ago.
    Listen to Me wise magic, and CGTSNM. Are those kick ass tunes? sorry, NO. Eddie at the time thought they were good enough to release on best of. Honestly i dont think those two songs are that good. I think CGTSNM is arguably better, but we're not talking classic VH there, are we??
    The songs that Dave did with the band in 2000 weren't up to par in eddie's eyes, so maybe they were worse than the two best of tracks

    Contrast those two songs with Human's Being.
    In my opinion, Human's Being ROCKS.
    I'm not gonna get into the Dave versus Sammy thing, cuz I think it's just a pointless debate.

    However, I cannot believe that you think the two Dave songs aren't up to par.

    I tell you, I put on the best of album, and I literally cannot wait for the triplet of Humans Being, Can't Get This Stuff No More and then Me Wise Magic. I think those 3 songs go so well together, and in my opinion are fantastic. But then again, it's not whose singing on the songs that I'm worried about, it's how that man is playing guitar, and on those three songs, he REALLY is playing !

    I just hope we get to hear more of this sort of stuff in the future (plus a few Year To The Day type songs [img]smile.gif[/img] ).

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    Originally posted by Daved Mikalex:


    BTW Sammy is not back in the band. Dave fans,
    start to worry if Dave starts Jamming with Mike.
    Then you will know its game over as far as a
    Van Halen reunion is concerned.
    i thought before you alluded to dave being back, now it's dave might jam with mikey and forgte the whole shabang? which is it?

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    He's confused, JMJ. For a minute there he actually convinced himself he knew what he was talking about
    "Just once I'd like to do the right thing and not get punished for it."

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    Originally posted by Stuff No More:
    He's confused, JMJ. For a minute there he actually convinced himself he knew what he was talking about
    [img]tongue.gif[/img]

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    Originally posted by 55starfire:
    disagreed

    this topic is so tired... - you are never going to influence ed or al, and certainly not any roth fans... can we just wait and see what happens instead of beating this already-mutilated horse?
    Right on the money!
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    agreed with that .. i kinda feel sorry for some of the people who've been registered here so long soooooo many dave/sammy bashing threads and replys ! .. .hehe

    and from what i heard sammy didn't really play much of a roll in writing humans being ... i don't think he wrote the lyrics and wasn't even around when the outro was being finished off by ed (my opinion the best bit) ...

    sure dave isn't what he used to be and i would rather sammy in the band at this point most likely .... but JEEZ play some dave material ... something like VHIII tour with sammy singing would be awesome

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    Originally posted by Stiglar:
    agreed with that .. i kinda feel sorry for some of the people who've been registered here so long soooooo many dave/sammy bashing threads and replys ! .. .hehe

    and from what i heard sammy didn't really play much of a roll in writing humans being ... i don't think he wrote the lyrics and wasn't even around when the outro was being finished off by ed (my opinion the best bit) ...

    sure dave isn't what he used to be and i would rather sammy in the band at this point most likely .... but JEEZ play some dave material ... something like VHIII tour with sammy singing would be awesome
    Yeah, you're right about the Sammy input. If I remember, Sammy was told to not right about Twisters. His first lyrics were along the lines of, "Sky turns to black, etc., etc."

    So they didn't use them. Ed had this idea of Humans Being and I think him and Glen Ballad wrote the song. Then they $$convinced$$ Sammy to come back and sing it, which he did, and then Eddie did all those low growls and background vocals in the song.

    From what I can remember.

    Anyway, just give me some new VH, any which way you choose it [img]smile.gif[/img]
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    Originally posted by Daved Mikalex:
    Nice Post.

    You have hit upon something important, Ed and
    Sammy created their best song when Ed and Sammy were pissed off with each other.
    Yet post after post here is about ooh I wish
    Sammy and Eddie were bestest buddies again, etc etc.

    Some people just dont get it.

    What is there to see in Roth now ??
    His unashamed free spirited personality
    (which totally pisses Ed off) is still
    alive to this day. One of *THE* most
    important ingredients of the original
    formula.

    Ed and Dave are a volatile mix.
    This reflects in the music.

    Closest Sammy ever came was when his
    time was over and he hated the brothers..

    Hmmmmm... I think there is something in that
    for all of us.

    Bring on the Happy Sammy/Ed reunion. I have
    worn out my copy of "Dreams"...

    BTW Sammy is not back in the band. Dave fans,
    start to worry if Dave starts Jamming with Mike.
    Then you will know its game over as far as a
    Van Halen reunion is concerned.
    So what your saying is Dave would be the perfect choice cause Eddie and Alex hate him so much. [img]graemlins/wtf.gif[/img] Thats great if your into maybe getting 2 more songs and no tour before Eddie and Alex boot his ass down the road again.Dude it just isn't gonna happen.They will probably play together(1) more time at R&R Hall of Fame induction but that will be it. Sorry but it has been game over for Dave and Van Halen for awhile now
    Van Halen....2003??? In television if your on hiatus this long it's means you have been cancelled and nobody told ya.Has VH Been Cancelled and no ones telling us?? C'mon Ed give us a break and give us an update...

 

 

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