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    Why has it been taking so long for Halen to come out with albums in the 90's? It's anywhere from a 2 year to a 4 year wait. I don't understand it. Back in the late 70's and 80's (especially in the Dave era) Halen would pump out an album every year or so. Think about it. From 78 to 84, Halen put out VH1, VH2, WACF, FW, DD, and 1984. I think that this is part of the problem with us fan's frusteration recently. I know it's frusterating to me. As a comparison, take Yngwie for instance (my second favorite band/artist)...

    Van Halen in the 90's:
    1. F.U.C.K.
    2. Right Here Right Now (which was really just an extension of F.U.C.K.)
    3. Balance
    4. Best of Vol.1
    5. VH3

    Yngwie Malmsteen in the 90's:
    (not counting all his tribute album work)
    1. Eclipse
    2. Fire and Ice
    3. I Can't Wait
    4. The Seventh Sign
    5. Magnum Opus
    6. Inspiration
    7. Facing the Animal
    8. LIVE!!
    9. Concerto Suite
    10. Alchemy

    That's twice as many (and Yngwie changed singers four times during this time period). I remember Halen saying that it took a year to record F.U.C.K. and I think a couple months to record Balance. That's a long hiatus between albums. Maybe I'm just yearning for the old Dave days where They would tour, come home, pump out another album in two weeks or so, and hit the tour road again. We need more music.

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    That's just the difference between a veteran band and a young band. A young band is driven by a hunger and also a fear that a few months out of the spotlight and there won't be any spotlight when they return. A veteran band knows they can take that time off and still be remembered when they come back.

    And of course young bands are rarely concerned with family issues, and then as they develop those they have just another reason to want to spend extended periods away from the road/album cycle.

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    Another thing you can say is in the beginning VH had a big demo tape to draw from, and "recording" an album involved throwing in a few new songs among reworked older ones.

    Also, in the Sammy years VH faced the birth of Wolfie, the death of their manager, Sammy's divorce/remarriage/birth of Kama, Eddie's bout with alcoholism and giving it up, distancing themselves from two singers while still working on side projects, auditioning a new singer, and getting acclimated to a new singer.

    I think you can understand why so little has happened in the 90s from them.

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    eddie didn't have a kid in the 80's. neither did al. i think family is pretty important to them.
    didn't malmsteen have a kid recently?

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    With the VH/Malmsteen comparison, would Malmsteen do a tour that was anywhere near as long as a VH tour would be? I don't follow him at all, so I don't know, but I'd guess his tours would be much shorter that Van Halen's tours.

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    Not only that, but YM probably doesn't have to deal with 3 other egos, and 3 other agendas. Doesn't he use a pool of musicians on his albums?

    VH is getting older. I think they've learned to start enjoying the fruits of their labors. More power to them.

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    Why does it take so long?

    Well, *lately* it's been legal issues, IMO.

    There are also familial and health issues that VH just didn't have to deal with, back in the day.

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    Yep 1984, little Antonio Malmsteen is his father's pride and joy. You have a point there Glenn. Yngwie doesn't do long tours (especially not in the U.S.). He does do a rather substantial bit of touring in Japan and Europe though.

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    With Van Halen, I think its' pretty self explanatory why puttin' out albums has taken so long.

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    I'm with Glenn here. Veteran bands/artists judt don't release albums every year. Look at the Stones for example. In the mid 60's these guys would put out at least 2 albums a year. But in the 25 years since Ronnie Wood joined the band they have done exactly 8 studio albums. That's an average of one every 3 years, and that hasn't been a consistent pattern. The difference is that the Stones have filled in the gaps with live albums, solo albums, hits compilations and "cleaning out the vault" releases like "Tatoo You" (which passed so well for a studio album that they built a worldwide stadium tour on it in 1981)

    While all the deaths, births, divorces, and remarriages of the Van Hagar era probably were factors in the bands recording, it's also true that Dave's total number of albums during the same time period also totalled 4.

    U2 has averaged 3 years between studio albums in recent years, and with the exception of Edge's divorce from his first wife, hasn't had the emotional drama's taking place. It's just standard practice for veteran bands.

    And Stuff also raises a valid point that much of Van HALEN's first 3 albums were taken directly from the bands mid 70's live act, as well as a few songs here and there all the way up thru House of Pain on the 1984 album.


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