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    Since it has been said by both Michael Anthony and Sammy Hagar that Ray Daniels has been released by the band and is no longer involved with them.
    Its time for the two sides (Sam & VH) to sit down and talk out what happend during the BO sessions.
    Since it was Ray that negotiated the bands deal with WB that added the "greatest hits' album in it and NOT the band, they split under false pretenses.
    When sammy joined the band, they re-negotiated their contract with WB and eliminated the "greatest hits album" from the old contract they had when Dave was still in the band, then Ray re-instated it in his contract that he did unknowing to the band.
    They got 10 million dollars for doing it, but none of them needed the money but they were obligated to it because of Ray.
    Eddie has said many time before that he doesn't play for the fame & fortune, he plays because its his love. So I really think that he was under alot of pressure for this album.
    Ray Daniels is 1/2 responsible for the situation Van Halen has been in since 1996 and Eddie & Alex are responsible for the other 1/2. They are responsible because they had no clue that their manager was dicking with them and were turned a deaf ear when Sammy tried approaching them about it. Eddie is a better musician than Sammy, but Sammy has alot more business sense when it comes to the music business. After all, he has been around longer.
    With Ray gone, time for Eddie to give Sammy a call and give the man what he wants, an apology. But it takes a real man to apologize, and quite frankly, I am not sure Eddie is capable of doing that.
    If it is as it seems to be right now that Dave is a long shot at returning, Sammy is THE only other option except for the retirement home, which I don't think Ed, AL and Mike are ready for just yet.
    'Old Van Halen, when I was in it-classic Van Halen-makes you wanna drink, dance and screw, right? And the new Van Halen encourages you to drink milk, drive a Nissan and have a relationship.' - David Lee Roth.

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    I think it's somewhat important to note that (to my knowledge) all of that information about the contracts for the 'best of' album come from the alleged chapters to Sammy's book. There's about 18 sides to every story, and that's only Sammy's that we have to go on as to the validity of those different contracts.

    I still maintain that if VH want to get back with Sammy, they have to step up and address the DLR issue.

    Anyway, this seems better suited to the Opinions forum, so I'm going to send it there. [img]smile.gif[/img]

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    I agree that if Dave is absolutely not coming back, Sammy really is their last real option.

    But what do you mean, Glenn, when you say address the DLR issue? Do you mean explain exactly to fans what happened?
    "I had a girl beating on my hotel door all night...She was screaming, crying. Finally, I said, 'What the hell'...and I let her out!"- DLR

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    <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Rikk:
    But what do you mean, Glenn, when you say address the DLR issue? Do you mean explain exactly to fans what happened?<hr></blockquote>Van Halen can play dumb if they want, but they KNOW what the climate is like in the VH internet community. They know that the fans are screaming for Dave's return, or at the very least are interesting in knowing if he's an option.

    Van Halen have had their own message board now for over a year, and they've done NOTHING to shoot down the David Lee Roth rumours. They can hide behind a "rumours are just that" statement if they want, but they know what people are talking about. If they want to all of a sudden jump up and say "Sammy is our guy", that'll just be like they don't give a damn about the stories they allowed to grow out of proportion for the last 2 years. That'll give them yet another credibility hit. And with a pissed off fan base like VH has, they can't afford to be punching holes in their own credibility any more than they already have.

    If they want Sammy, I truly believe that they need to come forward and explain their side of the attempt to work with Dave again. They can't put it to rest by sweeping it under the carpet, they need to be adults and put it to rest by addressing it. It's almost like a marketing sales thing; if they take away what people want (Dave), they've got to address it and give us a reason to support Sammy. If you're a business, and you stop selling a popular product, do you leave your customers in the dark, scratching their heads and wondering, or do you explain the change honestly and give them reasons to support your new product?

    I know that the VH fans on the internet are just a drop in the bucket, but we are hard core fans. It really says something when a band treats its hard core fans poorly. If you treat the people who love you like shit, how do you treat everyone else?

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    When they do get Sammy back (not if, when ) the best thing to do is not tell anyone right away. Start some kind of a weekly thing on their site where they talk about, say, three months of the long period of silence and what actions they were undertaking at the time. Sure, it will be dressed up to present them in the best light, but I imagine a lot will be forgiven when they finally say, "Sammy's back," if the fans know just what went down with Dave and everything else in the interum.
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