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    dear friends.
    respect to eddie, , dave, sammy , al , mike.

    how many of you, would like to see sammy with vh again ?

    why ?

    how could you judge the musical level, made in the sammy era, in spite of the dave era?

    from 5150 to balance, don't you think that the band grown up, just as a band ?

    have you noticed a different level of concepting the lyrics?

    have you considered the "evolution" of the band, playing live?

    to me, the 1st era, was good, and was based on 2
    big points:

    1) eddie's guitar

    studio, or live, alway 100%

    2) dave's live presence

    studio 100% voice

    live 100% of presence, but 65% voice

    and this, worked since dave left the band, to persue a solo career...
    ...a career, not based on his vocal attitudes, because, he never had HIGH VOCAL ATTITUDE ".
    he had a strong live presence.

    ...but having a strong live presence, without a good voice, and without a powerful guitar as Eddie...well, history told us, what dave obtained, departing for a solo career.

    and, it was not playing with Vai (respect at 100%)
    that dave obtained THE REAL SUCCESS"

    the fans, always remain loyal to the trademark of the band, that was not dave, but was, is, and will remain eddie, for the rest of our lives.

    then, the sammy era, had 2 points:

    1) eddie and sammy 100 %studio

    2) eddie and sammy 200 % live

    3) eddie, change his powerful guitar,in the same way sammy did with his powerful voice
    it was like a warm embrace between 2 different instruments.
    (no way to compare dave and sammy voices )

    what happened? the ed and sammy.

    they had a strong success together, even if sammy (100% respect)
    did not liked to all of the fans...

    ...but anyway, the result was 5150, ou812, fuck,rhrn and balance...top selling records anyway.

    so , what i want you to know ?

    today, vh, could have done more than 5 or 6 records, and the fans, would accept dave or sammy anyway.

    but , about the singers quality, well, sammy would probably well accepted from the band, in spite of dave, that right now have legal problems.

    so what's the solution?

    have a new singer. no .

    between dave and sammy, sammy could win.

    and if you see both of them at the mtv's in 2002, you wold have seen why.

    dave, seemed totally out of time, dressed as 1982.
    but it's not the dressing way.it's the voice. and the live performences.

    how many of you have seen dave live? forgetting song's words, not completely present.

    how many of you have seen sammy live? have you heard his voice ?
    have you heard with how much energy has he on singing?

    i think that eddie, has already taken his decision.

    and if eddie has taken his decision, this means
    that sammy, very soon, has filled 11 of the over 60 tracks already recorded for him at 5150.

    this seems to going to be the way

    he have to wait. and respect the decisions the eddie has taken, and will take for the future.

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    Forget the singers, the LSD, and all that... seriously!!!! Just give me Edward, Alex and Michael... pure instrumental music... if somebody just has to open their mouth then fine...

    Let the music do the talking!! [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]
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    A new VH album without vocals will sell about 100,000 copies. [img]graemlins/sleep.gif[/img]

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    A new VH album without vocals will sell about 100,000 copies.
    I agree, it would sell 94,000 more copies than "Not 4 Sale".

    [ February 26, 2003, 07:07 AM: Message edited by: swampash ]

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    I realy doubt dave will be back. But i think sammy will return in VH one day. It is more likely!

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    Evhua, I'm going to send this to the Opinions forum where all of your topics seem to belong. Main is not our only forum here.

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    With respect to this thread, the thing I noticed about the Sammy stuff was that 5150 was great, ou813 was good, FUCK was alright and Balance was the weakest.We won't even bring up the Gary record. Every album declined in quality from day 1 with Sammy. 5150 had to be great to make a statement that they'd be ok without Dave, who as we all know was very popular at the time. Sure, Sam was always there live (except that show in Dallas that was so bad they had to come back and play free to make up for it)that's just his style. Dave could sing his parts to if he stood there and did it, but it's a different performance. I was pissed when I bought Balance the day it came out. It was truly the first Van Halen album I didn't like.
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    Any album needs proper advertisement behind it to sell records even if its shit. N4S doesn't have that advertisement backing it.

    Both Dave and Sammy have there high points and their low points. Each era deserves props. David Lee Roth to Van Halen into the 80s, Sammy took it into the 90s. We didn't have anyone to bring it into the new millenium. Ed sayed before that a reunion with David Lee Roth would of been possibly 10 - 12 years down the road until what he pulled at the VMAs in '96(Which is classic Roth thank you very much)I think the reason that Ed has opted to work with Dave here and there through out the years is that Dave left on a pretty high note. The band had just released probably their biggest selling album ever and things were running high. Where as when Sammy left things were in the shitter due to this that and everything. The sessions for Humans/Between the Two of Us was the final straw and the Hagar years ended about as low as you can get friendship wise and creatively, from injuries exhaustion etc etc etc. Not to mention you had Ray Danniels there boiling the water the whole time. Sammy in my opinion was the better musician but lacks/lacked visual appeal. Dave is the better showmen but lacks the musicianship of Hagar. Its really a sacrifice, Do you want the music to be better or do you want to put on a better show?

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    Here's the deal....a lot of fans who grew up listening to VH never accepted Sam in the group, and will continue to think he sucks and is not even an option. The fact remains that he can sing awesome, he did give us some great songs (not as good as the Dave era I might add), but VH moved on. And a lot of us accepted and enjoyed this "new" VH. I would be in favor of bringing back Dave if he:
    1. could give us lets say 75% of vintage sounding Dave.
    2. could acknowledge that it ain't 1984 anymore, and drop parts of his lame act.

    Otherwise, Sam can sing a helluva a lot better, and bringing in their 2nd most popular/successful singer is better than doing jack shit!!
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