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    Man, I say let's bring Ted Templeman out of retirement and send him into 5150 to kick some ass and get the album out the door. He seemed to always keep the guys on track and get an album out within a year or two.

    When you let the artist produce, they don't think the album is ever done. Eddie needs someone there that will stand up to him and say "this sucks, try again".

    Gary wasn't the guy to do it:

    The Inside: I interviewed Nuno when his record came out and he said he felt VH was making you sound like a young Sammy Hagar?

    GC: He actually came up to the studio while were were recording songs like "Fire in the Hole" and "Ballot or the Bullet" and all the heavy stuff. He came up to me and said, "They're pushing your range." I said, "Yeah, it reminds me of you and me ten years ago when you were writing in the keys that you liked rather than the keys the singer could sing in." That's basically what was happening. Eddie was writing and I didn't want to complain. I wanted to be able to do what he wanted.

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    Just what would Ted be producing? He needs a band actually in the studio before he can begin working with them.

    Still, you're right. If they did an album, they'd need a good producer. Still, as much as I like Ted, I'd rather they'd have someone else. From what I've heard of Ted, he fought Eddie during 1984 and FAIR WARNING and was all for some of their lesser works. He came back to help Johns with F.U.C.K., and it's their most sterile album. VH3 may completely suck, but if there's one thing I can give it, it's at least more interesting that F.U.C.K. was (for me).

    Fairbairn's dead, but there are plenty of other awesome producers they could bring in.
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    Ted was supposed to work on DLR's album in 2000. Unfortunately, his health was too poor to be able to participate in the project. I wonder if things have changed?

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    Are you really shure they all will handle dave as good as ted ?

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    I agree with you Rikk, they are going to need a good producer. It's funny, I just jumped over to check out who did Balance, you were right on the money. It's a shame, because VH3 was not produced well. Gary was flat, the instruments sounded muddled, no separation. Sounded horrible, whether you liked the songs or not. And an effective producer may have made it presentable. Gary wasn't THAT bad live. Listen to his back up in How Many Say I, and Josephina live, the man can sing. I don't know what the hell they were thinking, and I blame the producer. And the band. And Gary.

    Shit. Gimme a beer.

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    <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by MikeL:
    Ted was supposed to work on DLR's album in 2000. Unfortunately, his health was too poor to be able to participate in the project. I wonder if things have changed?<hr></blockquote>Really? What was his health problem?

    Van Halen need a strong producer who is neutral, and they need a strong manager who is neutral. By neutral I mean not loyal to one side over the other, just loyal to the band in general.

    I like VH 3, but Gary's singing is tough to take at times. And I'm a fan of his Extreme work, and Gary can sing much better than 3 would indicate.

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    <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Incredible Edible Dude:
    I agree with you Rikk, they are going to need a good producer. It's funny, I just jumped over to check out who did Balance, you were right on the money. It's a shame, because VH3 was not produced well. Gary was flat, the instruments sounded muddled, no separation. Sounded horrible, whether you liked the songs or not. And an effective producer may have made it presentable. Gary wasn't THAT bad live. Listen to his back up in How Many Say I, and Josephina live, the man can sing. I don't know what the hell they were thinking, and I blame the producer. And the band. And Gary.

    Shit. Gimme a beer.
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    I agree. You can ever hear a couple of out-of-tune guitars on VH3. If you listen to WITHOUT YOU, for example, all of Eddie's second-guitar work, including the leads is a little flat. It sounds very bad for anyone with a good ear. Also, all of the mixes and everything were very muddled. I did think the Gary-VH comination was a bad idea from the start, but I do think that if Fairbairn had been around, he could have at least brightened up and maybe helped the album a little. But Eddie would have seen that as someone else taking control, which was the last thing he wanted. Then he fired Fairbairn for supposedly trying to rip him off with a song credit. I don't believe Eddie. Everybody who's ever worked with Bruce Fairbairn as stated that he was a tough but excellent producer and a great guy. It really sucks that he died.

    As much as I hate Alanis, I love what Glen Ballard did with the two BEST OF Dave songs.
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    <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Glenn:
    Really? What was his health problem?

    Van Halen need a strong producer who is neutral, and they need a strong manager who is neutral. By neutral I mean not loyal to one side over the other, just loyal to the band in general.

    I like VH 3, but Gary's singing is tough to take at times. And I'm a fan of his Extreme work, and Gary can sing much better than 3 would indicate.
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    You know, I'll probably get shot down by some diehards for saying this, but I think Gary's work on some of the Extreme stuff was actually pretty damn good. They did some good stuff: PEACEMAKER DIE, HIP TODAY, GET THE FUNK OUT, TRAGIC COMIC...

    I wasn't happy about Gary joining the band, but I did think the album would be much better than it was. And yes, I think the lack of any production values had a lot to do with that.
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    <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by MikeL:
    Ted was supposed to work on DLR's album in 2000. Unfortunately, his health was too poor to be able to participate in the project. I wonder if things have changed?<hr></blockquote>

    Damn! I didn't know he was ill. You know, guys, he must be getting up there in age. I don't know much about the man, but he was producing Doobie Brothers records as early as 1970?

    Hope he doesn't die on us.
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    The problem wasn't Gary. Gary did some awesome stuff with Extreme. But the main thing with Extreme was he and Nuno had control. In VH, he had none.

    Sammy knew those songs were doomed...

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    Was there a certain satisfaction in seeing the Van Halen III album tank?

    Sure, man. I'd hate to see those guys doing well and being happy without me. That would be like when I replaced Dave and we went on and made it anyway- it crushed that poor guy. I probably wouldn't have been too easygoing about it if [Van Halen III ] had sold four or five million, or the shows had sold out like they did with me. lt would have been like, 'Damn, they don't need Sammy!

    What did you think of Van Halen III ?

    I heard it before Gary Cherone was in the band. Half those songs were presented to me as options for the greatest hits album [1996's The Best of Van Halen Vol 1] or Twister soundtrack possibilities. Straight up, honestly, I did not dig the songs. I was like, 'Eddie, Eddie, these aren't songs. You've got about 10 parts here. You've got 15 guitar solos in one song. Maybe it was just that I was tired of the grind with those guys at that point. Maybe it was just time for a change. In any case, I didn't like that material enough to try and help like I always did. It was always my job in Van Halen to make the songs out of Eddie's pieces, but pretty soon his pieces were impossible. We actually tried to work on one of the III songs, 'Once.' That was originally a song I named 'Returning of the Wish,' which I've now used on my new album. Long story short: I don't think it was a very good record. I think Gary tried hard, but he had some pretty tough stuff to work with there.

    What if, all of a sudden, they wanted you back?

    I'm ready to be friends again, but I wouldn't go back and start that band again, no, no, no, no. All they'd have to do is come clean to me, not even to the fans, just tell me to my face, "Hey man, we're sorry about what happened. We're sorry we lied.' That's all. If they would just do that, I would say, 'Fuck yeah, let's go have a drink. Let's go fishing. Let's go surfing. Let's go down to Cabo and jam. But to actually put that band back together? A lot of water would have to flow under the bridge. They'd have to open up the dam. I'm too happy right now.
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    I love the part about each song having 10 parts and 15 guitar solos. That's exactly how I felt about the album, very disjointed.

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    Thanks! That was a great interview snip.
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    <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Glenn:
    Really? What was his health problem?<hr></blockquote>

    No idea. That information comes from a Bart Walsh interview from sometime during the summer of 2000.

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    Wasn't Ted intervied for a Behind The Music episode? He didn't look too bad health-wise.

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    <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Rikk:
    You know, I'll probably get shot down by some diehards for saying this, but I think Gary's work on some of the Extreme stuff was actually pretty damn good. They did some good stuff: PEACEMAKER DIE, HIP TODAY, GET THE FUNK OUT, TRAGIC COMIC...
    <hr></blockquote>Gary's work in Extreme is amazing. The whole III Sides album is stunning, definitely one of my favorite albums of all time. Peacemaker Die just blows me away, I love the MLK speech in it. The last half of the album (from Our Father on) is one of the best constructed and performed pieces of music you'll find. Warheads is great too. Just a brilliant album.

    Pornograffiti is a great album too, as is Waiting For the Punchline. Their first album sounds like a young band, very naive, though still interesting. Gary is a major talent, his style and viewpoints are just not set up for being a major rock and roll star. He doesn't fit the mold, which isn't necessarily a band thing, but it put him at a great disadvantage trying to front Van Halen.

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    <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Rikk:

    You know, guys, he must be getting up there in age. I don't know much about the man, but he was producing Doobie Brothers records as early as 1970?
    <hr></blockquote>

    Not sure, but he produced Montrose in 1973.

    Honestly, I'd rather they found a way to raise Bruce Fairbarn from the dead than get TT back. Right about now they could use his, "Work, motherfuckers!" attitude.
    "Just once I'd like to do the right thing and not get punished for it."

 

 

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