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    Has anyone ever seen anyone do it like Ed? The way he pivots his wrist seems unique to me. Most guys use the whole forearm.

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    I hold a pick between my thumb and middle finger also. I play the 'trills' the same way Ed does. It's funny though, I'm just not as famous as he is. At least my band is gigging...

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    I use my wrist also. I don't see how players can use their whole forearm. It seems like alot to move for a very small movement. Two schools of thought I guess.
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    I was going to say that he uses his thumb and middle finger to hold his plectrum, but was beaten to it.

    I tried to do this, but it's just not comfortable for me, and hurts like hell (plus I kept dropping the plectrum)...

    So I've gone back to my normal style. Can't tremolo pick anywhere near as fast as Ed, but at least I don't drop the bloody plectrum any more !!!

    Maybe that's why he always has so many plectrums stuck to his guitar though eh ?

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    Doesn't he call it "Hummingbird picking?" I heard or read that somewhere. The way he holds the pick and positions his hand, it's like a hummingbird fluttering around.

    Cool analogy...
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    It's really surprising how different guitarists hold and use their pick.
    James Hetfield holds his like you hold a pen or pencil, Tony Iommi rests the 'heel' of his hand on the guitar just above the pickup!
    I think Ed rests his forearm on the top of the guitar for trem picking doesn't he?
    I've got one of those instructional videos (hot licks) for Jeff Watson (Night Ranger)...he picks with a stainless steel pick and uses it sideways!
    Most people 'flatpick' but he sort of saws across the strings!
    Mabey the trick to being famous is working out a new way to hold the pick!
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    The most important aspect of picking isn't what someone else can do, but what you are comfortable with in the first place. Most of the time I rest my pinky finger on the body near the volume. I rememeber way back when I first started that this guy was telling me to have my arm "float" for quicker reaction. Bullshit. Make sure you're comfortable and strum. An angeled strum is advantageous becuase you are minimzing the contact with the string enabling a more true ring tone, and it helps with pinch harmonics as well. [img]graemlins/bounce.gif[/img]

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    If anyone has seen stompin 8h live with the SNL band and EVH, you can get a good look at the way Ed does tremolo picking. Just search Kazaa or any other p2p software for it. The title will usually be GUITAR SOLO but the actual filename is

    Eddie Van Halen - Stompin' 8H (SNL '87).mpg
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    Originally posted by thinlineokc:
    Has anyone ever seen anyone do it like Ed? The way he pivots his wrist seems unique to me. Most guys use the whole forearm.
    I've always thought that the way he executes his trem picking is in a very strict and unorthodox manner, so I agree.

    Personally It doesn't do it for me. As far as just standard pick grip, years ago I used to hold it like Steve Morse does before I knew he did that(Thumb, index, and middle), but I kind of ran into problems sweep picking holding it like that.
    The only time I employ that grip now is when I'm pinching and a few other riffs.

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    I have an old GIT publication (I believe it's called "Ten") where Eddie specifcally talks about this. There are even close up pictures of him showing exactly how to hold the pick and pivot your hand. Same for how he does the Mean Street intro.

    Pretty Cool.

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    Thinks Ed picks from the bottom of the string when he trem picks, doesn't he? That makes a diff too.
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    What it really comes down to, is that he's not "muscling" the pick back & forth across the string.

    You can even hear the difference when he DOES muscle it across, and you can see it in LWAN.

    Both sound fine, but the "fluttery attack" sounds better, IMO. I think the difference in sound is heard because sometimes it's not an even syncopation, or "timing" of picking. If you were to break down into slow motion, it would almost look like:

    Flutter picking:
    pick/pick.....pause.....pick/pick......pause....

    Normal speed-picking:
    pick...pick...pick...pick...

    It's not *always* an "even" timing, plus it sounds "chirpy" because a very small amount of the pick is touching the string.

 

 

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