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    Haven't posted here in awhile but thought I might find some help around these parts. Recentlly I have made a band jump working with a new set of guys who pride themselves on punk music which may come as a surprise considering my roots are and always will be Van Halen. Anway, the selling point to me for working with these guys is that they want to expand their horizons beyond the traditional 3 chord punk music. Since they have a guitarist already they have asked if I could possiablly add some lead guitar to their onslaught. Sounds cool to me, almost a new type of sound. Traditonal punk with some VH inspired lead and runs throughout songs. So far the past 3 weeks have been going great, we seem to have a nice sound that is different but isn't that what keeps music going? The problem I have came up yesterday when I was asked to come p with some ska type ryhthems. I really get into Ska but don't have a solid background in playing this music. It was explained to me awhile back that ska is derivved from up storkes on the off beats but I can't seem to get it down. Can anyone make some suggestions to help me out here? [img]smilies/bounce.gif[/img]
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    My band sound like a similar kinda thing, and the getting the Ska rhythms right IS definitely the hardest part. Our other guitarist has real trouble with it in fact. The only real 'trick' is to keep that pick hand moving up and down evenly, it's real tempting to speed up, also, if you're practicing at home without a drummer and/or bassist, it's just sooooo easy to lose whether you're on the on or the off beat. So the only real way yo practice it is to go over the rhythm parts with the rhythm section over and over together, or get them to tape the groove so you can practice at home. Mute with your fret hand on the down strokes and release on the upstrokes. And you need only use double stops or triads on the top three strings, otherwise you clutter up the sound too much. Let the bassist do the work! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

    Hope that helps. It's just back to the practice room I'm afraid...
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    Ska evolved in the early 1960's in Jamaica as a combination of R&B, calypso, and African rhythms. In the late sixties the up tempo sounds of ska slowed and developed into Reggae.

    One key element to keep in mind when playing ska, is the constant emphasis of the up beat or & (and). There can be some other variations on these basic ska rhythms, but these will serve you well in most situations. In Ska, a bright high sound is used rather than a bottom heavy power chord or barre chord. So most "Ska chords" are going to be played with upstrokes on the first 4 strings.
    Ska sounded "backwards" to me at first. I guess I was used to emphasising the 2 and 4 as most rock music does. It is a great way to bust out of a rut and improve you rhythm chops. Have fun!

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    Thanks for the input guys it has help a little. I'm still having problems with the off beat stuff. Since I have no real formal guitar teachings under my belt. (Never had lessons) I'm not to in tune with the technical ligo. What exactlly is the off beat? Everything i do sounds more reegea than ska to me!
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    If you count "1 and 2 and 3 and 4", the offbeats would be the "ands", so you would accent the "and" between the beats.

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    You should get the tab book for Megadeth's "Rust in Peace." It's a classic ska album! [img]smilies/thumb.gif[/img] [img]smilies/bounce.gif[/img]

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by tribb:
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    Bored?

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    Only by ska. I've jammed with ska bands, and usually about 15 minutes into the set I need a gallon of coffee to wash down the wake up pills.
    I find ska music a perfect remedy for insomnia. [img]smilies/sleep.gif[/img]

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by tribb:
    Only by ska. I've jammed with ska bands, and usually about 15 minutes into the set I need a gallon of coffee to wash down the wake up pills.
    I find ska music a perfect remedy for insomnia. [img]smilies/sleep.gif[/img]
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    Lol!

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    Sorry to offend anyone, but any style of music with a 3 letter name ('ska'...'rap'...'hip-hop' counts as a compound 3 letter name) elicits nothing but sarcastic chuckles from me. Well, perhaps an evil snicker as well.

    I'd rather play disco. [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img]
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    Disco??? [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img]
    Now wait a minute Abe, you're treading on dangerous ground. Before I can play that, I have to get my white polyester suit back from the cleaners. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

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    Abe you narrow minded you you! Ska rules!
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