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    Has anyone test-drove a Fender CyberTwin? The reviews make it sound good, but how does it sound to you?



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    Originally posted by LightBulb5150:
    but how does it sound to you?



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    like shit. To me it's an attempt to compete with the modeling amps and it just doesnt't cut it IMO. It's fucking loud, but the tones sound like a clean amp with old shitty digitech pedals in front of it.

    The clean tones are of course good and the modulation effects are ok. The knobs are automated and 2 of the 3 I played had problems. They're too much money for what you get.

    Now if you were a counrty player this may work for you, but I'm not so I can't answer that one.
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    I second that.

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    Ditto

    I tried one at the local dealer, and I didn't think much of it either. I have yet though, to try a modeling amp that "did it" for me.

    Plus, I can tell you first hand that motorized pots a pain in the ass, and are NOT reliable. That was a mistake that I am sure Fender will regret.
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    I thought it was pretty cool. I'd never use a modeling amp, but if you're gonna use one, why not go to the source? Most modeling amps are modeling mostly old Fender amps.

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    The recordings I've heard of Prages' cyber twin sound good to me!

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    I doubt the cyber twin can compete with my real twin.
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    Originally posted by BrownSound1:
    I doubt the cyber twin can compete with my real twin.
    ...and my Marshall can beat-up your twin [img]tongue.gif[/img]
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    I've had my CyberTwin since February. The clean tones are great, and if you play around with it enough, the dirty tones are pretty damn good. Does it sound as good as a dimed Marshall? No. It is, however, a huge improvement over any other modelling amp or preamp I've tried. I also have a Pod and the Cyber Twin sounds MUCH better IMO. Especially for direct recording. It's the first amp I've ever played that actually sounds better running direct than it does when mic'ed with an SM57.

    So far I've only played it at one show since I've been doing nothing but acoustic stuff lately, but I did play it at a small venue just this past Saturday. I set up the 4 footswitchable channels for a heavily saturated Marshall, a slightly overdriven Marshall, a medium saturated "Modern" stack, and a '59 Twin for clean tones. Although the show sucked, our mix was horrible, we played sloppy, and my voice cracked all night, the guitar tone was great.

    So far, I haven't had any trouble with the automated control knobs, or anything else for that matter.

    The presets (like most other modelers and effect processors) suck for the most part. If you want to get the most out of it, you have to get your hands dirty and spend some time tweaking the patch to your own liking.

    It has plenty of volume available, but it doesn't get really thin at low volumes. The overdriven tones clean up really well when you roll the volume back on the guitar.

    If I had it to do over again, I would probably still get the amp, although at some point I will buy an amp that is more tailored to the exact tones that I like to use. I find that I rely on the same three or four patches nearly all the time and the only difference between them is the amount of gain and different effects.

    As far as the effects go....

    The delay is GREAT. Reverb is also great. The Phaser isn't too bad, and the Chorus isn't bad. I don't care much for the flange. The Touch Wah works really well, but actually sounds more like a talk box than a wah pedal. You can hook up an expression pedal and use the built in pedal wah, which also works well and sounds a little more like a wah pedal. The biggest downfall is that you can only use one effect per patch. There are several "combo effects" that will have maybe a delay and chorus, or delay and phaser, but you can't go in and pick any two or three effects to run at once, so you couldn't use say the Touch Wah and the Delay at the same time.

    Over all, I'd give the amp a 7 out of 10. The clean tones get a 9 out of 10. You can get some pretty convincing vintage Fender clean tones. The distorted tones, I'll give a 7 of 10. This amp certainly isn't a high gain monster, so if you are looking for that, you'll want to keep looking. Also, the distorted patches can be a little shrill, so you end up having to cut the presence and treble down a little to keep from piercing your ear drums. The sound of the effects, I'll give a 7 out of 10, and the versatility of the effects I'll give a 4 out of 10. Fender needs to set the amp up so you can pick and choose effects chains and arrange the effects in whatever order you want them in.

    The controls are surprisingly user friendly. After spending a little time messing with the all the buttons and knobs it is easy to access most of the parameters. The amp seems to be built well, and it comes with casters and a cover, a single button footswitch to turn effects and/or reverb on or off, and a four button footswitch which can be used to choose between four patches.

    I love this amp for recording. It has a digital direct output which you can select between the total signal of the amp, or just a dry guitar tone, so in theory you could record it and hear the effected signal coming from the amp, but only record the dry guitar signal so you can add the effects later. It also has stereo low impedence outputs that work very well. You can select between true stereo and dual mono for those. Both the digital output and the low impedance outputs are very good for running direct to the mixing board.

    For live applications, I haven't really had a chance to thoroughly test it. I am just starting to get a full band rolling again, and as I stated earlier, this past weekend was the first time it's been played out. Based on the one show, it seems to be more than capable, but I'll keep you posted.

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    Originally posted by homeunit:
    </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by BrownSound1:
    I doubt the cyber twin can compete with my real twin.
    ...and my Marshall can beat-up your twin [img]tongue.gif[/img] </font>[/QUOTE]LOL...trouble is, sitting right next to it is a Marshall too.
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    Originally posted by BrownSound1:
    </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by homeunit:
    </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by BrownSound1:
    I doubt the cyber twin can compete with my real twin.
    ...and my Marshall can beat-up your twin [img]tongue.gif[/img] </font>[/QUOTE]LOL...trouble is, sitting right next to it is a Marshall too. </font>[/QUOTE]not my Marshall
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    Originally posted by homeunit:
    </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by BrownSound1:
    </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by homeunit:
    </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by BrownSound1:
    I doubt the cyber twin can compete with my real twin.
    ...and my Marshall can beat-up your twin [img]tongue.gif[/img] </font>[/QUOTE]LOL...trouble is, sitting right next to it is a Marshall too. </font>[/QUOTE]not my Marshall</font>[/QUOTE]Don't make me borrow Nigel Tufnel's amp!! As you know, it goes to 11.
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    Originally posted by BrownSound1:
    </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by homeunit:
    </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by BrownSound1:
    </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by homeunit:
    </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by BrownSound1:
    I doubt the cyber twin can compete with my real twin.
    ...and my Marshall can beat-up your twin [img]tongue.gif[/img] </font>[/QUOTE]LOL...trouble is, sitting right next to it is a Marshall too. </font>[/QUOTE]not my Marshall</font>[/QUOTE]Don't make me borrow Nigel Tufnel's amp!! As you know, it goes to 11. </font>[/QUOTE]hehe, mine really does go to 20 [img]graemlins/scared.gif[/img]
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    ...actually if you count the master it goes to 30!!!
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