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    Do you guys remember the Van Halen years? I know it's been a while. Can you remember any Van Halen album that had more than 3 singles? We all own the catalogue. Were those albums only 3 songs deep? I think about that 1st Matchbox 20 album, Sports, Appetite for Destruction, any Creed album...they go on forever. Single after single after video. If you want to know the truth...Van Halen has never had what I think is adequate representation. I raise this point because I feel that these guys deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence with the Beatles, Rolling Stones and Aerosmith. Don't get hung up on my examples, you know what I mean. If you had the power...what songs would you single off of each album? This should be interesting.

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    Any band that has ten consecutive platinum (and I believe all reached at least double platinum) studio albums doesn't need to be moping around about having shitty management. And their tours were all extremely well attended as well. And VH have always given the impression that they were highly involved in decision making.

    Personally I get annoyed with those albums (Def Lep's Hysteria and Bruce's Born In the USA immediately spring to mind) that have single after single after single after single. It comes off as an out of control steamroller just interested in sales for the sake of sales. I guess that's the point of commerce, but it does nothing for the artistic side in my view.

    Van Halen have done just fine without having six or seven singles from each record.

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    I understand your point of view, Glenn. And I agree to a certain extent but I feel that some VH albums could have been blockbusters. There is no way that Def Leppard is better than VH in its day.Though I prefer the Dave era of the band...I think OU812 could have been HUGE if tunes other than "When its love" and "Finish What Ya Started" were not primary choices as singles. As far as Van Halen doing just fine...If my brother who is 10 years younger than me didn't have me insisting to check out Van Halen he wouldn't know they exist and he wouldn't be the fan he is today. You heard me right...there is a generation out there who doesn't know who Van Halen is. That is a travesty. They know the Beatles...Stones...Aerosmith, but not the mighty VH. That pisses me off...thats all.
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    i'd say Warners failed VH before management did...

    the only good thing about multiple-single albums are those instances where the band puts unreleased material on the B-side. five singles get released, and you'd get another half a disc of new stuff. not to mention the 12-inch vinyl versions, for those more on the new-wave side of things...
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    When the first Van Halen albums were released it was a completely different era. Those albums were designed to be played on FM album oriented radio format stations. As time went on, Van Halen started releasing more and more singles and videos. Thankfully, Van Halen paid more attention to making good music and not to how many singles they could release off every album.

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    Ever hear of overkill? Many bands who have too many singles can usually never duplicate that success on their follow ups and soon disappear. Look at GNR now. Matchbox 20's last album tanked. Creed will soon follow suit. Ditto for Linkin Park. VH was always consistent and were never played out. Aersmith is a joke these days. Still popular, but not the Aerosmith I used to know and love. VH never needed hit singles to push an album or tour. Look at Fair Warning. No singles and it's still considered a classic. Will we look back on Creed or Matchbox 20 in 20 years? Maybe for "where are they now" purposes only.

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    No, egos failed Van Halen fans! [img]graemlins/yell.gif[/img]

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    The only thing that failed Van Halen was Van Halen.

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    I always thought of VH as a "album rock" group, not a singles or pop oriented group. Often the best material on their cd's never got played on the radio. Considering they came out in 1978 when disco was king and changed the face of American music and went on to become the greatest American rock band ever, I think management and VH did just fine. Until Ray Daniels came along that is...

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    The thing killing VH now, as said in an earlier post, is VH themselves. Its been 7 yrs since they were successful/ active. The last age group to have a large amount of VH fans is people who were in high school when Balance came out. Most of us are in our mid 20's now. Anyone in college or younger thinks of VH as Right Now and Jump. My sister and her friends fall into that age group. Since they were in middle school the last time VH had success they know very little. They haven't experienced seeing 20 VH shirts the day after a concert in school, having friends wait on line for VH tickets because they would sellout quickly, seeing VH on MTV (not always a good thing- see the N' Aerosmith Boys), etc.

    Unfortunately, the whole Gary incident went the wrong way. Although it would have been tough, they could've kept most of their fan base and gained new fans with a better outing. However, they lost a lot of their fans and did not gain any new fans. Singer 4 would dilute their fan base further. It's up to them now. They can attempt to pick up where they left off in 1996 and have a great comeback story or go with #4 and play at theatre's or night club's. Its in their hands, not management's.

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    You guys are going to eat this alive, but I started to lose interest in VH untill VH3 came out and was not real commercial. I felt it kind of humbled the band, and I don't know why but I just liked it Sorry! It just seemed to make it a more personal album because it wern't all over the radio and TV.

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    Van Halen was very much an AOR band until Diver Down, so I don't think there was a mistake made in not releasing killer tunes like "Outta Love Again" as singles. I do think there were two mistakes made at the end of the Dave era, though. "Little Guitars" should have been released as a single (I'm actually not sure if was or not, but I don't remember it being a single), and "Drop Dead Legs" should have been the fourth single off of 1984.

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    Well, Carnel Knowledge had "Poundcake", "Runaround", "Right Now", and "Top of the World". Balance had "Don't Tell Me", Can't Stop Lovin' You, "Amsterdam", and "Not Enough". Remember all those tins they put out? These are probably exceptions, and I get the point your making. It seems that Van Halen always gave you a little taste, but if you wanted more, you had to get the album. I think that's cool. I think it would kind of suck if I bought an album, and only after I've listened to it, do I find out that I've already heard over half of it on the radio.

    I wished they had released their more hard edged songs when Sammy was in the band. I mean, it only fueled the VH-with-Sammy bashers when "Can't Stop Loving You" was released as a single. I was like,"Huh?" Why didn't they release "Aftershock"?
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    Just a quick side note. I work with an 18 year old girl who came to my house not long ago. She wanted to hear me play guitar. I proudly hooked my Wolfgang up to my 5150 thinking she knew it was EVH's signature stuff and started playing some Van Halen riffs. She's said, 'that's cool, did you make that up?' I was like, no it's Van Halen. She said, who's he? I said Eddie Van Halen is the guitar player for Van Halen. She had a blank stare on her face so I threw out some song titles. All the one's that got played on the radio. After a list of about 10 songs, she said, 'never heard of 'em.' When I was 18, Finish What You Started was all over the radio. Van Halen was THE band. Nowadays, some people have honestly never heard them. But the 18 year old chick did know some Stones riffs when I played 'em.

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    ..I dont know much about the music biz but the dixie chicks sold 200 million records... & the 3 didn't even take in a million a piece.....that's an example of what a whore the music company is
    ..In 1984 Van Halen Jumped Panama
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