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    Dave Grohl, Krist Novoselic Lash Out At Courtney Love
    12.13.2001 9:44 AM EST


    Dave Grohl and Krist Novoselic answered Courtney Love's lawsuit seeking to break up their Nirvana business partnership Wednesday, accusing Kurt Cobain's widow of being "motivated solely by her blind self-interest."

    A source close to Love said in July that the two parties were making progress toward an out-of-court resolution (see "Nirvana Legal Battle: 120 Unreleased Tapes At Stake"), but the latest actions suggest otherwise.

    Kelly Corr, who recently replaced Warren J. Rheaume as legal council for Grohl and Novoselic, filed defendants' answers, affirmative defenses and counterclaims to the lawsuit that Love filed May 9 seeking to dissolve Nirvana LLC (see "Courtney Love Sues Grohl And Novoselic, Blocks Nirvana Rarity"). Love formed the limited liability company with Grohl and Novoselic in 1997; it controls unreleased music and requires a unanimous vote on major decisions.

    The former Nirvana members' counterclaims state that the LLC has functioned effectively in releasing 1994's MTV Unplugged in New York and 1996's From the Muddy Banks of the Wishkah as well as in managing the reputation and assets of the band. They also claim that Love, "faced with a waning recording and acting career," is using her suit "to further her own career goals, not to protect Cobain's legacy as she claims."

    O. Yale Lewis, Love's lawyer in the case, called those assertions preposterous. "My client's career is not declining in any sort," he said. "She is sought after as an actress and a musician. I am surprised they would use that, especially when 'waning' could be applied to their own careers."

    The papers filed Wednesday also address the box set of Nirvana music Grohl and Novoselic hoped to release this month, which Love's lawsuit successfully stalled. "We believe she is improperly holding it hostage for her own personal reasons," said Corr, who has also represented Seattle rockers Heart.

    Grohl and Novoselic are asking Judge Robert Alsdorf of the Superior Court of Washington in Seattle to throw out Love's lawsuit, remove her from the LLC and find someone else to represent Cobain's estate. If that doesn't happen, Corr said her team will begin taking depositions in preparation for a trial, which would start September 30.

    Lewis said he believes Grohl and Novoselic are attempting to appear as though they were of equal importance to Nirvana as Cobain was. "That is simply wrong," he said. "The general public doesn't differentiate between Kurt Cobain and Nirvana. He was the lead singer, the lead guitarist and the lead songwriter. He was the will and the force behind that band."

    After Corr filed the counterclaims Wednesday, Grohl and Novoselic made their first public comments on the case in an open letter to Nirvana fans. "We have been mostly silent for the last few years as [Love] filed lawsuits, waged a continuous negative campaign in the media and tried to rewrite history," the former Nirvana drummer and guitarist wrote. "It is now time to act and speak out."

    The letter says Courtney Love is the only reason the Nirvana box set, which was to coincide with the 10th anniversary of Nirvana's landmark 1991 Nevermind album, has not been released. It notes the multiple lawsuits Love has filed against her and Nirvana's label (formerly Geffen Records, now Universal Music Group) over her recording contract with Hole and claims, "she couldn't care less about Nirvana fans. She is using Nirvana's music as a bargaining chip to increase leverage for her personal gain, without any regard for the Nirvana legacy. Our music is just a pawn in her endless legal battles and her obsessive need for publicity and attention."

    "Courtney talks and talks about her 'valuable career,' " the letter continues. "As far as we are concerned, her career is her own affair and of no interest to us. Our concern is when she pastes herself into music she didn't write or perform. By her actions, the Nirvana legacy is becoming tangled up in her own ambitious agenda."

    Lewis said he doesn't expect the notion that Love is using one lawsuit as leverage in another to stand up in court. "It is quite possible for someone to be passionate about two lawsuits at the same time," he said. "If she wasn't fighting for her own rights as an artist, if the Kurt Cobain estate was all she had to look after, she would still be doing everything in this case exactly the same, only she would be even more focused."

    The letter ends by addressing "You Know You're Right," a song Cobain recorded just before his death in 1994 that was to be the centerpiece of the box set. "We were looking forward to releasing unheard Nirvana material for our personal sense of closure," Grohl and Novoselic wrote. "We only wanted to go on with the assurance of knowing that all of Nirvana's music is where it really belongs — in the hearts and minds of millions of people in the world."

    In October, Love filed a separate lawsuit against Universal Music Group that could also give her control of Nirvana's master recordings (see "Courtney Love Sues For Control Of Nirvana's Master Recordings "). It claims Nirvana's contract should have been void after Universal's purchase of Geffen and lists Grohl and Novoselic among the defendants.

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    She is not even news worthy. I wish Kurt took her with him on his Taliban mission. They both have done nothing for Rock! [img]graemlins/sssh.gif[/img]

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    She'll get hers. I would love to see the day when she has to hang out with O.J. and Gary Condit after the truth comes out about her.
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    I'm no Nirvana or Courtney Love fan, but I really think she should just enjoy the money and shut the fuck up
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    NEWS - Courtney Love's Lawyer Calls Nirvana Countersuit 'Preposterous'
    12/13/2001



    (12/13/01, 6 p.m. ET) -- Courtney Love's lawyer, Oscar Yale Lewis Jr. says some of the accusations made by former Nirvana members Dave Grohl and Krist Novoselic in their countersuit over the rights to the Nirvana catalog are "preposterous."

    Grohl and Novoselic filed a countersuit against Love on Wednesday (December 12) over the rights to Nirvana L.L.C. (limited liability corporation). The pair claim that Love is not trying to protect the legacy of her late husband, Nirvana frontman Kurt Cobain, but rather the motive for her legal action is designed to further her own sagging career. Love is also in a legal battle with the Universal Music Group over the contractual obligations of her own group, Hole.

    Lewis Jr. told LAUNCH, "The third issue that the complaint describes her as not having the capacity to participate in an L.L.C. is, I think, truly preposterous. She is a very successful businessperson. She is highly sought after as an actress. Her music career is very high right now. If it weren't, Universal wouldn't be fighting so hard to hold on to her. So the notion that she somehow is doing this to perpetuate her own career that is in decline has no support."

    Lewis also believes that the first two issues also are inaccurate. "The first part of it is that the counterclaim presents the issue that Mr. Grohl and Mr. Novoselic and Mr. Cobain were all equal partners in the band and all three of them did everything together, and I think that's simply not accurate with the facts, which I think we will prove at trial."

    He added, "The second point that they seemed to make, which I think is not accurate, is that they claim that Ms. Love is using the Nirvana asset in her own struggles with Universal and there's no support for that. It is true that she has two independent disputes with Universal, which is not surprising. It's a very large international conglomerate and she has a variety of interests. It certainly doesn't support the proposition that she's using either dispute to obtain leverage in the other."

    Asked if Love had a comment on the open letter by Grohl and Novoselic, Lewis replied, "She heard rumors that material was going to be published yesterday, but when she and I talked I had not seen it and she had not seen it and she was literally walking out the door to begin a four-day period of seclusion to focus on other issues that have nothing to do with this." As to what those issues were, Lewis said they were her acting and her new music.

    Novoselic and Grohl's legal representative Kelly Corr told LAUNCH that the point of the countersuit is pretty simple. "We're trying to get the Nirvana legacy released to its fans," Corr said. "We think that Courtney Love is improperly holding it hostage for her own personal financial reasons, and we want the court to replace her as a member of the Nirvana L.L.C."

    Corr told LAUNCH that Love originally agreed to release some of the Nirvana material for the planned box set. It was derailed by a backpedaling Love due to her lawsuit with Universal Music Group. A California judge subsequently ordered all the Nirvana and Kurt Cobain material be "frozen" until legal matters get sorted out.

    Asked if the boxed set delay helps his case in replacing Love in the Nirvana L.L.C., Corr told LAUNCH, "Well, it doesn't help the Nirvana fans. I mean that's the whole point of our counterclaim is that we think it should have been released this Christmas as Ms. Love had previously agreed both orally and in writing. And then after she had her own dispute with Universal and Geffen Records she changed her mind."

    The case is scheduled for pre-trial proceedings starting September 30, 2002 at the Superior Court of Washington for King County, and the next level of proceedings are discovery and taking Love's deposition.

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    Courtney is just like that fucking Yoko Ono. courtney didn't write or perform any of the Nirvana stuff. Krist & Dave should be given full control over THEIR work, not the demon bitch. I as a Nirvana fan am disgusted at her. she cares ziltch about the music.

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    If Kurt could come back for just one day that bitch wouldn't have a fucking leg to stand on. Believe me, that so called marriage was just about over at the time.

    Probably why she killed him.
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    <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by FORD:
    Probably why she killed him.<hr></blockquote>

    WTF? You've spread some pretty inaccurate and flat our wrong rants around here before, FORD, but this is just plain silly. All the evidence and data shows it was a suicide.
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    I have to agree with Mr. FORD this time. Haven't you seen Kurt & Courtney? Very interesting stuff. Her own father even thinks she murdered him! And don't get me started on that "suicide" note!
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    Courtney sucks - the epitome of greed and evil.

    Kurt - a lost soul who had no faith.

    Both are losers. Cobain just got his before Courtney. But her time will come. Isn't that rigth Mr. devil? [img]graemlins/devil.gif[/img]
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    Damage Control...



    NEWS - Cobain Family Responds To Nirvana's Grohl And Novoselic
    12/14/2001



    (12/14/01, 3 p.m. ET) -- Courtney Love and the "family of Kurt Cobain" have replied to the letter and countersuit issued by former Nirvana bassist Krist Novoselic and former Nirvana drummer Dave Grohl. In the letter, released on Thursday (December 13), the family of Cobain gave Grohl and Novoselic credit for their role in Nirvana, displayed what they believe to be the facts regarding Nirvana and copyright law, and claimed they were strong-armed into the Nirvana L.L.C. (limited liability corporation) agreement.

    "Krist And Dave made an enormous musical contribution to the Nirvana's success and they have been exceptionally well paid for that contribution and will continue to earn royalties from the catalog's success," reads one portion of the letter.

    In another, the family wrote, "We wish Krist and Dave great success in their current careers and hope they will leave control of Kurt's legacy to his rightful heirs."

    The letter also points out that the facts and copyright law give the family control of his recordings and songs. "Kurt Cobain was Nirvana. He named the band, hired its members, played guitar, wrote songs, fronted the band onstage and in interviews, and took responsibility for the band's business decisions. Kurt Cobain wrote almost all of Nirvana's music. Over 93 percent of the band's songs copyrights are in his name."

    The letter also addresses an interpretation of copyright law. "Under United States law, Kurt's interests pass to his heirs who then have the responsibility of overseeing his interests."

    Addressing the Nirvana L.L.C., the family wrote: "Kurt Cobain refused to sign a partnership agreement with the other members of Nirvana when he was alive, so any claims that the band was a 'partnership' at best revisionist history. The partnership agreement that exists now was forced upon Kurt's heirs. The family signed it after attorneys threatened them with a Washington law that supposedly would have required the family to turn over all interests in Nirvana to Krist and Dave. That assertion was untrue, but the threat was used to deprive the family of its rights to manage Kurt's legacy."

    The letter concludes, "Other parties have talked about finding 'a personal sense of closure' with Nirvana's music. That's exactly the opposite of what should happen. We want to celebrate Kurt's life and music and make sure Nirvana finds as large an audience as possible. We want future generations of music fans to give the band its rightful place alongside the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, Jimi Hendrix, Led Zeppelin, and Bob Dylan."

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    Who is the "family of Kurt Cobain" supposed to be?? I know Frances Bean didn't write that!! Oh man, they're in for a long, ugly case now. At least Yoko Ono would try to cooperate with the Beatles after John died.
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    <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by FanHalen:
    We want future generations of music fans to give the band its rightful place alongside the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, Jimi Hendrix, Led Zeppelin, and Bob Dylan."

    -- Darren Davis, New York
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    Puh-leez! This fucking band, alongside The Beatles?

    For one thing, they haven't 1/3 of the size catalog of the Beatles, much less anything timeless. Just a bunch of fucking out of key vocals, whining and hissing, pissing and moaning, with guitar playing like he ate a bucket of extra crispy and didn't wash his hands. He makes Neil Young seem like a gifted soloist!

    I say, fuck Cuntney Luv and everyone associated with her...

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    <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by FORD:
    If Kurt could come back for just one day that bitch wouldn't have a fucking leg to stand on. Believe me, that so called marriage was just about over at the time.

    Probably why she killed him.
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    ROTFLMAO!!!

    FORD, man, I just don't know what to make of you

    I hate your politics, but I get a kick out of hearing you spew it...

    I'm 100% in agreement with you about Van HALEN

    But, in the end, your endless conspiracy theories are what just fucking kill me! This one may be true; I don't know, but for me, I laughed so hard I had tears in my eyes...

    Cheers!

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    Cobain Sides With Love
    The battle for control over Nirvana's legacy has taken an even uglier turn. Kurt Cobain's mother claims the late Nirvana frontman "despised" bandmates Krist Novoselic and Dave Grohl in the last few years of his life. Cobain's mom Wendy Cobain O'Connor has sided with the Hole frontwoman in the legal battle between the surviving Nirvana members and Courtney Love. O'Connor claims Love has been supporting her in recent years and calls Novoselic and Grohl "liars and crooks" who are trying to gain some control over the Nirvana legacy. Regretfully Kurt Cobain can't speak for himself. "It's never been in my nature to take advantage of my son's stunning success, but I know that my son would want me to stand up for him and his family in this moment of what I can only describe as total betrayal," said O'Connor.
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