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    Anyone know the story behind that?
    And dates would be helpful.

    I'm still trying to figure something out...

    [ April 04, 2002 at 12:54 PM: Message edited by: Sunday Afternoon ]</p>

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    he probably let him think he still had a career..

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    No one knows the story?

    I need dates....

    Still putting something together.

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    i don't believe that scumbag did anything to mislead DLR. he is associated with the Sammy and Gary eras.

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    No one knows for sure what happened or who was to blame. Speculation suggests that Ray Danniels told Eddie to get Dave back for a couple of new songs to help push BOV1 and then toss him aside in favor of Gary (who also used Ray as his manager).

    I think this all happened in June of '96, but I'm really not sure.

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    Hello?

    Someone must know the story.

    Where's FORD when you need him? (Did I just say that?)

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    Danniels was the one masterminding the manipulation. He had a revolving door to the studio, where Dave, Cherone, and Malloy were all working with the "band", neither aware of the others existence. And this was even taking place in June before Sammy Hagar was fired! That's 4 guys being misled right there. Then, after Hagar was fired on Father's Day, Danniels concentrated on convincing each of the remaining three that he was THE man for the job. Cherone was Danniels chosen man for the job even before he caught the plane to LA. If you believe Mitch Malloy, he was Eddie's first choice. The fans, of course, wanted Dave.

    Who won? Danniels.

    Who lost? The fans, the band, and all of the above singers.
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    Originally posted by FORD:
    Danniels was the one masterminding the manipulation. He had a revolving door to the studio, where Dave, Cherone, and Malloy were all working with the "band", neither aware of the others existence. And this was even taking place in June before Sammy Hagar was fired! That's 4 guys being misled right there. Then, after Hagar was fired on Father's Day, Danniels concentrated on convincing each of the remaining three that he was THE man for the job. Cherone was Danniels chosen man for the job even before he caught the plane to LA. If you believe Mitch Malloy, he was Eddie's first choice. The fans, of course, wanted Dave.

    Who won? Danniels.

    Who lost? The fans, the band, and all of the above singers.
    fucking asshole!!!!!

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    Yep, that's about it in a nutshell.

    Danniels was the master manipulator & the guys with the vocals were all unwilling participants.
    What's worse is that it appears that the VH bros were aware of some or most of what was going down. Not too cool.....

    Sammy was smart to stick to his guns. Dave got hosed, although he could have been a little more tactful about the way it was handled in the press. Gary was a lab rat.

    It's interesting to see how things played out after Dannels was cut loose tho....all of a sudden they're making new tunes with Roth....even if this was at the direction of Warner Bros....
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    Originally posted by Sunday Afternoon:
    Anyone know the story behind that?
    And dates would be helpful.

    I'm still trying to figure something out...
    He used long words.... [img]graemlins/sleep.gif[/img]

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    Originally posted by FORD:
    Danniels was the one masterminding the manipulation. He had a revolving door to the studio, where Dave, Cherone, and Malloy were all working with the "band", neither aware of the others existence. And this was even taking place in June before Sammy Hagar was fired! That's 4 guys being misled right there.
    So FORD, you're angry at Ray Danniels for misleading Dave and the fans into thinking he was in the band?

    And this all happened in June of 1996?

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    Originally posted by Sunday Afternoon:
    So FORD, you're angry at Ray Danniels for misleading Dave and the fans into thinking he was in the band?

    And this all happened in June of 1996?
    Danniels bears primary responsibility for the manipulation, but Eddie & Alex were willing accomplices. And they not only lied to Dave and the fans, but also WB and MTV, both of whom were already promoting the reunion heavily.

    And it wasn't just June of 1996. It was from the moment the news broke of Hagar's firing to the open letters of October.
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    Originally posted by FORD:
    </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Sunday Afternoon:
    So FORD, you're angry at Ray Danniels for misleading Dave and the fans into thinking he was in the band?

    And this all happened in June of 1996?
    Danniels bears primary responsibility for the manipulation, but Eddie & Alex were willing accomplices. And they not only lied to Dave and the fans, but also WB and MTV, both of whom were already promoting the reunion heavily.

    And it wasn't just June of 1996. It was from the moment the news broke of Hagar's firing to the open letters of October.
    </font>[/QUOTE]Please give me your references so I can do a check on your statements above. Thank You in advance Ford [img]smile.gif[/img]
    Just go for it!

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    Originally posted by BREW CREW:
    Please give me your references so I can do a check on your statements above. Thank You in advance Ford [img]smile.gif[/img]
    My references

    Mr. David Lee Roth, Pasadena CA

    Mr. Samuel Hagar, Cabo San Lucas Mexico

    Mr. Gary Cherone, Boston MA

    Go ahead and ask them. They'll back up everything I said.
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