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    Over a five-album span beginning in 1977, the Police won Grammys, racked up smash hits and fought. Flirting with pop, punk, jazz, reggae and rock, and finding success in all directions, the Police could have gone any which way they wanted after the release of 1983's multi-platinum Synchronicity. Instead, they simply went their separate ways, as singer/bassist Sting broke up the band in favor of a solo career, turning his back on the group that gave the world "Every Breath You Take," "Roxanne" and "Message in a Bottle." All are included on the new anthology, The Best of Sting & the Police. Drummer Stewart Copeland served as the Police's backbeat during their seven turbulent years.
    How do you feel about greatest hits records?

    I like 'em. I like the original albums to be available as well, because my favorite tracks are often not the ones that are the hits. But then sometimes when I feel like some Santana I go get the compilation because you get three different albums' worth of sort of your favorite songs -- it's just a different animal. And a slightly different running order kind of illuminates different aspects of the tracks too. I get into, "Ah, this is an early one, this is a later one, listen to how different the snare sounds," professional stuff.

    Is that what you hear when you listen back to these records?

    To my own records, yeah, how different the snare drum sounds, important stuff like that.

    What other kinds of things like that?

    What pizza we were eating that day, that's the strangest thing, whenever I listen to the music I've made I remember whatever food was from the nearest restaurant. In the last two Police albums in Montserrat there's this kind of Caribbean cooking and actually the whole experience of being on Montserrat off of this emerald isle in the middle of the Caribbean, a twelve-hour flight away from the nearest record executive. It got really ugly towards the end of Synchronicity, but if I listen -- as I had cause to do recently -- we actually had a great time doing Ghost in the Machine.

    Was there anything you wanted on here that isn't?

    Yes and no. The tracks that are on there, the ones that have every aspect of the group more or less, and there's other tracks that are personal favorites like "Shadows in the Rain," "Tea in the Sahara" and "Regatta de Blanc." They're kind of personal favorites, because they're obscure aspects of what the group did.

    What are your favorites that made the cut?

    "Message in a Bottle," "Can't Stand Losing You," "Roxanne," "Every Breath You Take," of course -- actually I'm just making that up. This compilation was released in Europe, and it was amazing what happened there: It went straight to Number One and the interest was quite startling, so it's come out here and the tracks have been slightly reconfigured. I'm not actually sure what's on it. I think the really cool thing about it is the fact that there's two artists that are related but quite distinct on the album and I think when Sting went off to do his solo career there were a lot of Police fans that didn't buy into the jazz vibe, didn't follow Sting into the many places he went musically after the Police. There's an even larger group of people who discovered Sting as himself doing the music he did without the Police and developed a taste for that and he built up a pretty distinctly different fan base on his own music. And the Police guy who never followed Sting and the new Sting fans who aren't really aware he was in the Police, I think both sides would benefit from exposure to the other.

    Are you rankled at all that this collection is titled "Sting and the Police?"

    One part of me says that changes the band name or the trademark or whatever, but that's all small potatoes. I think the Police achieved enough so that I don't need to be too sensitive. I like getting to all those fans Sting has earned by hard work over the last twenty years. I like having Police music exposed to those people. I hear so much snide stuff about Sting. Most of it I hear just because people think they can ingratiate themselves with me by slagging Sting, and I can't tell you how wrong that is. It would do them good to hear some of Sting's own stuff, which I think is great. I'm still susceptible to his harmonic sensibilities, his poetry and every other aspect of it, and, even if he plays with other musicians who wouldn't have done the same thing with the material that I would have done, I still like the material.

    I'm going to throw some song titles out there and I want to get your first impressions or what you remember from recording them: "So Lonely."

    We were on a roll with "Roxanne," "Can't Stand Losing You" and "So Lonely," so those three songs sort of go together. I prefer "Can't Stand Losing You" and "Roxanne" to "So Lonely" personally, but all three had that kind of crossover feel. "Don't Stand So Close to Me" is one of my favorites. There's two versions of it. In fact I have a version I've cut up just for fun, called "My Police Derangement." It's the original studio backing track with the 1986 vocal. We recorded that song in 1986, it was a different version of the song and Sting did a huge, cool thing with the vocals but the band was not as good because I was in a game of polo, my horse did a somersault, I was obliged to dismount and I landed on my shoulder and broke my collarbone, so there were no drums. It was a drum box but the vocals were really cool, so I put the 1986 vocals with the 1979 backing track, and it's kinda cool. It will probably appear on one of these subsequent Police re-releases. I've got a whole bunch of those tracks. I took live recordings and studio recordings original masters from the studio recordings and mixed them all up, put wrong words with the wrong backing track and really fucked 'em up.

    Did you have thoughts of putting those out?

    I did have thoughts of that but my colleagues quite rightly point out that if there's going to be a Police album out there, they ought to be participating in it. These are just doodlings of mine at home and they'll probably just appear as bonus tracks.

    "Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic"?

    That was Sting's rebellion against the punk world that we put ourselves in. It wasn't until our third or fourth album that we had earned the right to play whatever we fucking well want. He had had that song since way, way back in the beginning and we never considered it part of the Police oeuvre because it was such a bare-faced pop song. It's almost like that Paul McCartney song, funny little love song or whatever it is, except that I think Sting's song is much better.

    Was there an actual conversation about that, like, "Are we allowed to put this out?"

    I remember him writing it in the back of a tour bus where all these punk bands were in a coach going down to the South of France for the punk festival at Mont-de-Marsan. The Clash were there, the Damned, all the groups were on the bus and Sting was in the back all grumpy because he thought they were all jerks and idiots and assholes pretending to be musicians and he was sitting there singing "Every little thing she does is . . ." and he was writing this pop song as a rebellion.

    Are there any songs on here you got sick of playing?

    No, the reason for that is because I haven't played any of 'em in twenty years. I'd give anything to play any Police song right now. There were never songs I was sick of, because we were fortunate to have good songs to play.

    Can you remember any particular fights about a song that went against what you wanted?

    Two songs: "Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic" and "Every Breath You Take" -- two of our biggest hits. "Every Breath You Take" was a song where Sting brought in a keyboard thing, and we fought tooth and nail. Andy and I insisted, 'No, we don't want a keyboard song. We're a guitar band,' and Andy came up with a guitar part and there was a lot of screaming and shouting about that, but the quality of the part eventually settled the argument. But that was a big shouting match and Sting gave that one up and we got a great record out of it, and I'm sure he's fine about it now, but there was a lot of shouting on the day. On "Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic," it was exactly the opposite. We each owned a full recording studio, so instead of him bringing in a couple chords and a lyric, he'd bring in a fully produced master and we struggled against that, not going to turn it into our own thing and we fought and fought and fought and finally we did it his way. After all the shouting we couldn't argue with the fact that it sounded better that way. And I just overdubbed drums to the demo he had already made and I'm very proud of the result now, but I wasn't on the day. I guess I'm glad "Every Breath You Take" is a guitar song and that Sting stuck to his guns and insisted that we stick with his original concept for "Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic."

    You mentioned that you'd give anything to play Police songs again. How likely is it that you would re-group?

    Very, very unlikely.

    What would it take to make it happen? What's holding it up?

    Sting's stellar career is holding it up. If he was starving, maybe we could do it.

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    Originally posted by FH:


    Are you rankled at all that this collection is titled "Sting and the Police?"

    One part of me says that changes the band name or the trademark or whatever, but that's all small potatoes. I think the Police achieved enough so that I don't need to be too sensitive. I like getting to all those fans Sting has earned by hard work over the last twenty years. I like having Police music exposed to those people. I hear so much snide stuff about Sting. Most of it I hear just because people think they can ingratiate themselves with me by slagging Sting, and I can't tell you how wrong that is. It would do them good to hear some of Sting's own stuff, which I think is great. I'm still susceptible to his harmonic sensibilities, his poetry and every other aspect of it, and, even if he plays with other musicians who wouldn't have done the same thing with the material that I would have done, I still like the material.

    That was a great interview...thanks for posting it FH!

    I'm still confounded over why Sting will not do a new album with the Police. Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.......
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    I think Stings music has grown stale and its time for a reunion. The Police on the Synchronicity tour is still the best concert I've seen. The reunion may happen for the Hall of Fame inductions.

    Although officially unconfirmed, learned that Stewart, Andy and Sting plan rehearsals (and may have started them already) for a reunion on the occasion of their induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, and will play several songs during the show, however, no tour is expected to follow.

    Here is a related article from 30/10/2002 from The Plain Dealer.

    Upon learning the Police won The Plain Dealer's third annual rock hall poll, Stewart Copeland spared us a long-winded acceptance speech. Instead, he intoned a little Hollywood fanfare: "DUN DUH-DUH-DUH DUN DUN DUN DUHHH!" A drum roll would've been even more appropriate. Copeland kept the beat for the Police, behind singer-bassist Sting and guitar player Andy Summers. Readers of The Plain Dealer and visitors to www.cleveland.com deemed the Police the most deserving nominees on this year's official Rock and Roll Hall of Fame ballot.

    Reached by phone at home in Brentwood, Calif., Copeland thanked fans who voted for his old band, best-known for such hits as "Don't Stand So Close to Me," "Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic" and "Every Breath You Take."
    "It's not surprising," Copeland said. "Cleveland always has been a great town for us." Early in the Police's career, the group performed here at the old Pirate's Cove and the Agora. Those gigs in the late 1970s and early '80s were fondly if hazily recalled by Copeland. He also has pleasant memories of the Cleveland Opera's 1989 production of his opera "Holy Blood and Crescent Moon" and his performance here last year with the modern-rock supergroup Oysterhead.
    "It's very new, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame," Copeland said. "But in a short time it has achieved a gravitas almost up there with the Grammys."
    Being inducted "would mean a great deal," he said, because "it would drag Sting to a stage with Andy and me and we'd get to play some Police tunes. . . . It would be great fun. The last time we played together was at Sting's wedding [in 1992]."

    Could a get-together at the induction ceremony lead to a full-blown Police reunion?
    "Probably not," Copeland said. He recently was recruited by Ray Manzarek and Robby Krieger to play drums in a new version of the Doors, with the Cult's Ian Astbury handling vocals. "This is an interesting year, because 25 years ago was the beginning of the punk revolution, a great watershed in music and hair length," Copeland said.
    "The groups on the ballot this year - the Sex Pistols, Elvis Costello and the Attractions, the Police - achieved a lot of notoriety by criticizing those who came before us," he said. "And those who went before us, the current inductees, now sit in judgment. So the members of the Grateful Dead are saying, 'What was that you said about us 25 years ago, you little [expletive]?' "

    Copeland personally is rooting for the Sex Pistols, back on the ballot after being snubbed last year.
    "The Police, the Clash and Elvis Costello and the Attractions were better groups than the Sex Pistols," he said. "But the Sex Pistols undoubtedly were the most important band. They were the catalyst. They
    started the revolution."

    (Source: The Plain Dealer)

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    Copeland practically begging for a reunion. I can understand Sting's reluctance for jumping back into the democracy situation with the Police. Nevertheless I think that for another album and tour it could be great.
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    Why would an artist who writes all of his own material want to get back into a group situation where the other two are essentially riding on his coat-tails? I'm not denigrating Stewart Copeland or Andy Summers, because they're both exceptional players, but they don't have the writing abilities of Sting. I would imagine everytime someone asks Sting about reuniting with the Police, it would be a bit like someone walking up to him and saying, "hey, why don't you leave your wife and get together with that girl you were seeing 20 years ago. She was really hot!"
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    Crazy from the Hemp,

    Yeah Copeland & Summers may not have the writing abilities....but they definitely had the right sound to accompany Sting. Sting IMHO still writes incredible songs, but it's just not as "full" as his days with the Police.

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    I'm of the opinion that nostalgia is the death of creativity. I would view a Police reunion in the same light as a VH reunion, I think a one-off tour for the benefit of the fans would be ok, but artistically I'd rather hear where Sting and EVH's heads are in the here and now, not trying to rekindle 1984.

    I think Sting's recorded some of his best songs since leaving the group. I Hung My Head on Mercury Falling and Fill Her Up on Brand New Day are excellent songs, and he's always been smart enough to record and tour with great players.
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    As for checking up on the old girlfriend, the wife would never go for it. I prefer to direct my energies into more plausible pursuits (i.e. convincing her that a threesome with another hottie is a really good idea). [img]graemlins/devil.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/devil.gif[/img]
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    Just one more of the 3 reunions I will never get to see that I really really want to. I would die happy man if I could see a triple bill of Police, Van HALEN, and Pink Floyd. I would go as far as to say that I would go see this concert and turn down a threesome with Anna Kournikova, Karen McDougal, and Dana Delaney [img]graemlins/wtf.gif[/img]
    Did I really say that? Sad but true.
    Let's see, Van HALEN was early 80s, Floyd was early 80s, Police was early 80s, but damn I will be eternally grateful for what they gave me!
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    Sting wrote just about everything anyways, but no matter who he has in his solo band, they ain't Copeland and Summers...Sting's solo bands have had excellent drummers (Omar Hakim and Vinnie Colaiuta) but he's been weak guitar wise. Dominic Miller was OK, but like i said, no Summers...
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    Originally posted by Executionor:
    Let's see, Van HALEN was early 80s, Floyd was early 80s, Police was early 80s, but damn I will be eternally grateful for what they gave me!
    I graduated high school in '86. how old are the rest of you?
    Graduated in '83. Was lucky enough to see Floyd on the Division Bell tour, but would definitely love to see a reformed band with Waters. I saw VH with DLR 3 times, so I'm not one of the ones pining for that reunion. My top 3 shows at this point would be:

    1) Led Zeppelin Reunion
    2) Police Reunion - will always kick myself for not going to see them when the Synchronicity tour
    rolled through these parts
    3)Black Sabbath Reunion (Ozzfest doesn't come up to these colder climes [img]graemlins/cry.gif[/img]
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    Stweart Copeland took John Densmore's place and is now touring as part of the "New" Doors. Ian Astbury of The Cult sings, Ray & Robbie are still around. I dunno...it should be called something other then "the Doors" without Jim or John. As for the Police, Sting's solo career may be successful but none of his solo work even comes close to comparing with those amazing Polcie albums...just my 2 cents.
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    Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

    looks like The Police, The Clash and AC/DC will be inducted at the next one! [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]

    if Sting pulls a "John Fogerty" and refuses to play with them he'll look like a pompous jack ass [img]graemlins/yell.gif[/img]

    and The Clash better play too!

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    F-U-C-K 1984 was the year of THE MARD's big fuck up!
    I had an opportunity to see the Police and turned it down. "I'll catch 'em next time"

    Same with Van Halen. Same guy had tickets for me, same reason. "I'll catch 'em next time"

    Plus there was a rock festival with Accept, Quiet Riot, Metallica, Motley Crue, Triumph, and Ozzy.
    Same guy with Tix. Only I was GROUNDED and couldn't go... [img]redface.gif[/img] *sheesh*

    I love the Police. They came here in '79 at a small club in Hamtramck when their carreers were just taking off. I was 12 or 13 and never heard of them. Maybe a little... I swear, every Punk Rocker/New Wave'er in Metro Detroit came and flooded the streets. The club MIGHT hold 200 people, there was probably 1000 or more. Me and my buds had fun fuckin' with those guys. Ha! [img]tongue.gif[/img]
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    NEWS - Police Members Plan To Play Together At Rock Hall Induction
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    (11/8/02, 12 p.m. ET) -- The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame hasn't announced which of the latest inductees will be performing at the March 10 ceremony in New York City. Of the five new members--AC/DC, the Clash, Elvis Costello & the Attractions, the Police, and the Righteous Brothers--only AC/DC and the Righteous Brothers are still active, while Costello still plays with two of the three Attractions, keyboardist Steve Nieve and drummer Pete Thomas. The Clash and the Police are no longer active as bands.

    However, members of the Police are planning to reunite, at least for that night. Drummer Stewart Copeland told LAUNCH. "I should think so. You know, what we lack to make us play as the Police again is a good reason. I can think of all kinds of good reasons--just for the fun of it primary amongst them, or to build a new hospital for somebody with the money raised, or, you know, I don't know...Fun would be a good enough reason for me. But I just don't think there's gonna be any Police performance of any kind, for any reason--unless it's something like this. There's no strings attached, nothing retro about it--well, I suppose it's retro, but it's sort of sanctified retro."

    Guitarist Andy Summers told LAUNCH, "I actually think it would be a great night, and think we'd all really enjoy it. And I guess we're gonna play three songs, like they do, and it's a good thing."

    For his part, singer-bassist Sting issued this statement, "I am very proud of the legacy of the Police. We were a damn good band and it still holds up. And it's an honor to be voted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame and to be recognized by one's peers. I've been to one of the induction ceremonies and it was great fun, (and) I'm really looking forward to the evening."

    An edited version of the show will air shortly after the induction on VH1.

    -- Bruce Simon, New York and Gary Graff, Detroit

 

 

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