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    Metal Sludge picked up someone else's story yesterday that Peter has bailed on KISS and today KNAC is reporting it. Having said that, someone on one of the KISS boards says he talked to someone at KNAC and they got the story from Sludge, so who knows? And today Sludge is reporting that Ace is leaving too.

    The original Peter story said they'd finish their dates with Eric Singer in the Catman makeup, which would be horribly pathetic in my opinion.

    No idea if any of this is true, just thought I'd throw it out there.

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    Damn, I haven't heard anything about this. That sucks.

    Funny, I am listening to the CD "Love Gun" here in the lab at work. Damn, I hope I didn't jinx them by bringin it in today!


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    Hasn't this happened before? I heard that Peter was planning on leaving a long time ago, but he worked out a deal with Gene and Paul to stay longer.

    If it's about money......Gene and Paul should just give them what they want for the final couple of shows. Otherwise the fans will be mislead. Gene and Paul have already made a fortune on this reunion business, it's time to cut Peter and Ace in on a little of the action instead of just being highly paid employees.

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    In my opinion, Singer can out-drum Peter Criss with his pinky toe!

    HOWEVER, and this is the big point, the Farewell KISS schem-I mean..."tour", is for all the original guys to say good bye to the fans and vice versa. I can't even imagine $immons would run the risk of losing even a couple hundred thou$and dollar$! KISS tried this once before during the "Reunion" tour. I believe it was a show in Atlanta and Pete had some sort of shoulder screw up / bersitis (sp?) going on and they put his drum tech in cat makeup. 1/4 way thru the show, Paul introduces FRANK as the drummer for the night and I think I heard about 1/3-1/2 the audience decided enough was enough.

    I predict this tour is just to sever all ties w/Pete and Ace then Gene and Paul will start it up again w/Bruce and Eric S. Just a hunch. (insert Quaismodo picture here...get it? A "hunch"?? OH yeah...I slay me! )

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    Here's a cut and paste from www.eddietrunk.com

    He's a DJ who's apparently very tight with KISS. In fact, Ace was his guest for quite a long Christmas show right before x-mas and having listened to it on the web, it's quite obvious he (Eddie) is somewhat in the know with the band. Anyway, taken for what it's worth, here it is.


    It is true, Kiss drummer Peter Criss has left the band over what is said to
    be a money issue for the upcoming Australian and Japanese tour. Look for
    former Kiss drummer Eric Singer to return to the group, wearing makeup, for
    the upcoming overseas dates. Contrary to current rumours, Ace Frehley is IN
    for the tour and will take part in all dates. It is still a possibility that
    Criss could return at the last minute, but at this point the band have
    decided to move forward without him. Rehersals for the upcoming tour are
    scheduled to begin in LA with Eric Singer in Mid February. There is also a
    chance that Criss could return for a final NYC date after the Australian and
    European tours if contract terms can be met. It does look likely however,
    that the original Kiss lineup have played their final show.



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    Here's the official statement from KISS website.


    Eric Singer, the last drummer in KISS, has rejoined the band to complete the Farewell World Tour, their celebration of the band's 30 year history.

    In a joint statement, Ace Frehley, Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley said, "Eric has been a member of our family, and his drumming and singing have been the cornerstone of past KISS tours. We are stoked that we can bring our ultimate spectacle to KISS fans worldwide".



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    I love KISS and Eric Singer is my favorite KISS drummer, but what the hell is the problem here between them and Peter Criss? If it's just money, give it to the guy and finish the tour.

    Are they taking a page from the book "How to make stupid career decisions" by R. Daniels?

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    I can't help but wonder if Peter's arms have just totally given out on him, and that this isn't a money issue. I agree, if it's about money, just pay the guy what he wants and try to end this thing with some dignity.

    I can't imagine that they'd insult the fans by suiting Eric Singer up in the Catman makeup. If they're going to finish with the makeup on, which I would assume they are, I'd say that Eric should play without makeup.

    Musically, this is a step up for them, but the whole point of it being a Farewell tour is that it's a farewell to the original KISS. This is really looking like an embarresment to them in my opinion.

    These final shows are going to have the biggest asterisk since Roger Maris.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Glenn:
    I can't help but wonder if Peter's arms have just totally given out on him, and that this isn't a money issue. I agree, if it's about money, just pay the guy what he wants and try to end this thing with some dignity.

    I can't imagine that they'd insult the fans by suiting Eric Singer up in the Catman makeup. If they're going to finish with the makeup on, which I would assume they are, I'd say that Eric should play without makeup.

    Musically, this is a step up for them, but the whole point of it being a Farewell tour is that it's a farewell to the original KISS. This is really looking like an embarresment to them in my opinion.

    These final shows are going to have the biggest asterisk since Roger Maris.

    <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Excellent points, Glenn. I especially like the "final asterisks" comment. I can see the loophole that Kiss will more than likely use. I believe someone said it above that this tour is to remember "30 years of Kiss". I can see them justifying this by saying "Eric Singer WAS/IS a part of Kiss-tory." True, but people aren't paying $50+ to NOT see the original 4 say goodbye. Looks like the "magic" could truly be gone.

    Hey...at least the drumming will be a lot better! Not to slam Peter, but Eric just rules as a rock drummer. Maybe this is when Eric puts the "hawk" makeup on he was speculated as having at one point. Can't you just see it...

    The Demon on bass.
    Starchild on guitar.
    Space Ace on lead.
    Big Bird on the drums.



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    Not only is having Eric Singer wear Peter's catman makeup an insult to the fans, its an insult to Peter.

    Maybe they can come up with a distinct makeup design for Eric.

    But, my guess is that Eric will wear the 'cat' makeup and at least 'look like' Peter Criss. Do you think the fans in Australia and Japan would notice?

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    True enough about Japan and Australia, but what about the supposed final shows in America? The KISS Army might revolt if they stuck Eric up there at MSG in Peter's costume and makeup.

    If this is a money issue, all of these guys need a smack in the mouth. Gene and Paul for not paying him, and Peter for letting the fans down this close to the finish line.

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    Now it's just







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    That would be a shame if it's indeed a money issue, especially considering the tons of money made during their Farewell Tour... I know here in Va Beach the reserved section was going for 68.50 a pop....

    As far as the best drummer Kiss ever had, that honor must go to Eric Carr, may he rest in peace.... That dude could flat out jam....

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    Sheesh! Leave it to Ki$$ to not even be able to finish a farewell tour.

    Guess the "farewell" happened a few stops too early

    Don't it just suck when things go this bad with bands? Makes you hope everything will go find with the upcoming VH tour...

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