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    I just bought Roxio's Easy CD Creator 5 Platinum this week and it comes with an option that has me excited - for now: The ability to "Normalise" CDs (match the volumes up from low volume CDs to louder CDs). Although it's not part of the core program (it's actually in a side program called SoundStream), it still should come in very handy. It's already passed the Fleetwood Mac Mirage test (Mirage is like the lowest volumed CD I own and it matched the volume up for "Hold On" with the same track from Greatest Hits real well - could not really tell the difference in source). Has anyone ever used this (or something similar) before, and have you had any drawbacks to having a program normalise the volumes of differing CDs when making a compilation?

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    I've fiddled round with this kinda thing before. I've always found it's best not to normalise past bout 95% though, or you can get some clipping of the sound file
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    WOW! That sounds cool, I wish that my CD burner did that.
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    I normalize with SF. Like Goo said, the only drawback I've found is with clipping, especially with tracks from various sources vs. a single show.
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    Originally posted by YankeeRose:
    WOW! That sounds cool, I wish that my CD burner did that.
    It's not your burner - it's your softawre you use with your burner. It's kinda a pre-burning treatment to alter the volume of the tracks, then the burner uses the treated tracks to make the disc.
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    Originally posted by Goo:
    I've fiddled round with this kinda thing before. I've always found it's best not to normalise past bout 95% though, or you can get some clipping of the sound file
    Mine doesn't have a setting for percentage - you either normalise or you don't! I don't know how much of an original variation would require greater than 95% normalisation, though.

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    It means 95% of maximum possible vvolume. So it raises the volume from whatever to 95% - so in theory as long as you always raise to the same level, you'll get pretty uniform volumes. at 100% you do tend to get clipping

    Where problems can come in is in the way it calculates this - some methods average the volume of the whole song. in this case you can get clipping when a small part of the song is noticably louder than the rest. the thing raises the average volume, but the peak part will be raised as a result over 100%, and you get clipping. Thats why I suggested 95% as it gives you a little elbow room. Obviously if you cant select it though, you don't have that option [img]smile.gif[/img]

    The other method is the program looks for the maximum volume, then raises the volume in reference to this. You won't get clipping here, but you might get inconsistant results, where the volumes still dont match after normalising, because the peak of one song is different to the peak of another. the peaks will be at the same volume, but the rest of the song wont be

    Just a couple of things to be aware of more than anything. if you get some funny results it might explain why - usually this isnt a big problem though with good clean sources like cd's. live recordings and bootlegs will cause all hell at times though.

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    It's always a good idea to normalize to about 95%, which corresponds to about -0.04 dB, where 100% is supposed to be O dB.
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    At work......when burning radio ads to CD, I used the "Normalize" on Soundforge on spots........but found that it made the recording too hot.......too in your face.......somethings were clipping.....not enough air in the recording.

    Is the "normalize" feature adjustable on SF???
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