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11.05.09, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by It's Mike
Alimony does not reward luck. From your posting you would think that Nantz's wife simply bought the right lottery ticket. That she served no role in his success. I find this to be incredibly unlikely and honestly rather laughable. If you have a good wife and family your odds of success are greatly increased. If your family life is a mess it often does travel with you to other parts of your life.
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Again, incredibly naive. I've worked and socialized with very successful people of all stripes. A loving wife is NOT the common denominator in their success. Their personal drive, intelligence and yes, luck, are the common factors in determining whether someone is successful or not. Or need I remind you what happened to the Beatles AFTER John married Yoko? Moron.
But you keep on toeing the feminist line. I'm sure it's winning you that all important street cred with the ladies on the message board.
By the way, if we follow your line of logic through to its admittedly tenuous end, I'm assuming the wife of any married man who's not a success most thus share the blame for that lack of success?
Damn, that equality. It's a real double edged sword, ain't it?
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11.05.09, 11:40 AM
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#107
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Originally Posted by It's Mike
and your wife likes the stupid ones. ey? 
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Actually, her criteria was pretty standard: tall, handsome, smart, successful.
I'm guessing you fall short on at least two of those four? That would certainly explain why you're so willing to eat shit and like it.
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11.05.09, 11:41 AM
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#108
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Originally Posted by Van_Heineken
Again, incredibly naive. I've worked and socialized with very successful people of all stripes. A loving wife is NOT the common denominator in their success. Their personal drive, intelligence and yes, luck, are the common factors in determining whether someone is successful or not. Or need I remind you what happened to the Beatles AFTER John married Yoko? Moron.
But you keep on toeing the feminist line. I'm sure it's winning you that all important street cred with the ladies on the message board.
By the way, if we follow your line of logic through to its admittedly tenuous end, I'm assuming the wife of any married man who's not a success most thus share the blame for that lack of success?
Damn, that equality. It's a real double edged sword, ain't it?
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yes, this is why I'm doing this to win street cred, that's the ticket.
you know successful people? that's nice. I am successful people. My wife is a very key reason for my success. I'd like to think that I'm part of the reason for hers as well.
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11.05.09, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Van_Heineken
Actually, her criteria was pretty standard: tall, handsome, smart, successful.
I'm guessing you fall short on at least two of those four? That would certainly explain why you're so willing to eat shit and like it.
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you probably got me beat on tall.
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11.05.09, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by It's Mike
you probably got me beat on tall. 
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Who doesn't?
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11.05.09, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by chefcraig
Who doesn't? 
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not many.
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11.05.09, 11:55 AM
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You all make it sound as if while he was out traveling, doing his job, she was home scrubbing the floors like Cinderella; while he was out to dinner at On The Border, she was at Taco Bell; while he was spending his vacation time in exotic locations, she was pitching a tent in the backyard. Sure she stood behind him while he succeeded, and she got a good life from that. I just don't understand while she should still be entitled to those benefits when they're no longer together?
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11.05.09, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by billy007
You all make it sound as if while he was out traveling, doing his job, she was home scrubbing the floors like Cinderella; while he was out to dinner at On The Border, she was at Taco Bell; while he was spending his vacation time in exotic locations, she was pitching a tent in the backyard. Sure she stood behind him while he succeeded, and she got a good life from that. I just don't understand while she should still be entitled to those benefits when they're no longer together?
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no one is saying of the sort Billy.
This simply comes down to a question of responsbility. It is my belief that if one member of 25 year marriage is the bread winner and makes millions of dollars a year and the other does not that even once the marriage breaks that this person owes something to the family. If you want to argue that a million a year is too much and that it should be a 500,000, fine. It's a discussion one can have just not without having more information. But Nantz has a daughter. And unless he wants to take sole custody of that child, he needs to continue to finance the household - his family household.
If I hit the lottery tomorrow and instead of getting a lump sum figure i choose to get an annuity that pays a million dollars a year for life, I should not be allowed to simply walk away from my wife and not give up part of that money. This is especially true when you add chilren into the equation.
I think it's the numbers that make this seem worse than it is. If Nantz made 80,000 and was asked to give his wife and daughter 20 grand a year this would be a non story. Everything is relative. In this case 1 million to Nantz would be 30 grand to me.
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11.05.09, 12:14 PM
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well, the lottery is a different case, and I would agree that should be shared, because even if the payments are spread out over a number of years, the money was gained while you were married. And I'm not saying she shouldn't be entitled to part of what they have in the bank right now. My problem is him having to continue to support her going forward, even though she will no longer be his wife or sharing his home with her. The child is provided for, as she should be. Just don't understand why the ex-wife should be, too.
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11.05.09, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by billy007
well, the lottery is a different case, and I would agree that should be shared, because even if the payments are spread out over a number of years, the money was gained while you were married. And I'm not saying she shouldn't be entitled to part of what they have in the bank right now. My problem is him having to continue to support her going forward, even though she will no longer be his wife or sharing his home with her. The child is provided for, as she should be. Just don't understand why the ex-wife should be, too.
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if the settlement was for a million year for the daughter and that the wife would have control of that money until she was done school, would you be ok with it?
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11.05.09, 12:26 PM
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With good luck on his side he wont have to pay it for long. He could ask his 29 year old girlfriend if she has a brother.
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11.05.09, 12:29 PM
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Under the ruling, Nantz must pay $72,000 in alimony monthly until he dies or his ex-wife remarries, and another $1,000 weekly in child support for the next two years.
This is where I have a problem with this. So as long as she doesn't remarry, she can screw any guy she pleases and the ex is picking up the tab? Doesn't seem fair.
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11.05.09, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by It's Mike
if the settlement was for a million year for the daughter and that the wife would have control of that money until she was done school, would you be ok with it?
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depends on if the money was getting actually spent on the daughter.
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11.05.09, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by cabomiro
Under the ruling, Nantz must pay $72,000 in alimony monthly until he dies or his ex-wife remarries, and another $1,000 weekly in child support for the next two years.
This is where I have a problem with this. So as long as she doesn't remarry, she can screw any guy she pleases and the ex is picking up the tab? Doesn't seem fair.
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Yeah, I would imagine that's the part that Nantz finds most annoying too. lol
Fortunately, I have an old fashioned gal who thinks women getting a free ride like this is crap too.
On a similar note, did you ever see the Curb Your Enthusiasm where Larry is continually stiffed for a dinner tab by this couple? When they finally pay one, the wife (who doesn't work) gets really bent out of shape when Larry only thanks her husband for paying. Larry's rationale being that she doesn't make any money and thus didn't pay, so why would he thank her? Too funny. I love the way he slams that kind of hypocrisy while mocking himself at the same time.
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11.05.09, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by stilleddiesangel
How many times has a woman helped her man prepare for a job interview, ironed his shirt, boosted his confidence, consoled him when things didnt go right, was his biggest champion and staunchest supporter. You dont hold onto a woman who isnt doing those things on a regular basis, just as I wouldnt want a man who didnt make me feel like I was the most important person on the planet. Behind most successful people, men or women, there is a rock somewhere of support, love and absolute faith, generally that rock is their spouse. In good times and bad etc.
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I`m afraid you`re not going to get Eddie with that attitude.
Real men want a woman that challenges them intellectually and physically. Think Joanna Krupa with a law degree.  Men who need a wife to mother them are pretty weak IMO. If a man still needs mommy to tell him everything`s going to be ok and send him out `to face that big bad world, that man may as well stay home cos he`s not ready to play with the big boys.
I said it in my first post on this topic. CBS could`ve gave two shits if Nantz was married or not and his marital status has nothing to do with his skills as a broadcaster.
Although, I could imagine it creeping into his work now...
`Well Bill, with that putt, Tiger earned himself a tidy payday of $1 million which oddly enough is the same amount I`m paying my wife not to fuck me anymore.` LOL
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