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11.04.09, 10:43 AM
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http://swz.salary.com/momsalarywizar..._newsearch.asp
Apparently, I'm not the only "idiot" to think that work done around the house can be assigned a measurable value.
Can the nurturing of a loving mom be replaced? No, but the jobs done around the house (which I'm guessing Lori Nantz did very little of herself) can be replaced and quite cost effectively with minimum wage workers. The next time a woman says "you can't put a price on what I do," send her this link. And the next time she says "being a Mom is a 24/7 job," ask her where you can get a job watching Oprah? On second thought, no one needs that job.
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11.04.09, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by It's Mike
So you think that the mother should sell the family home and move the daughter away from her school, her friends, etc. For what reason? So Jim Nantz had an extra 3 million in the bank as opposed to 4 million? Really? this is the important thing here? I can't believe I'm having this discussion.
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If Ms. Nantz can't make it on her own, then yes.
now we know why Henry VIII kept an axe handy!
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11.04.09, 10:51 AM
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If i made 5 million dollars a year and it cost me a million to keep the most important person in my life and her mother comfortable, i would not complain. Would you?
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A teenaged girl does not need a million dollars a year to live comfortably. The child support should be commensurate with her historic standard of living.
According to the salary wizard, the ex wife is entitled to $68k at the low end of the median and $181k at the high end. If that means she has to downsize, so be it. She's the one who got "tired" of her husband's lifestyle. If she wants to make big girl decisions, she's going to have to live with the consequences of those decisions.
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11.04.09, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Van_Heineken
http://swz.salary.com/momsalarywizar..._newsearch.asp
Apparently, I'm not the only "idiot" to think that work done around the house can be assigned a measurable value.
Can the nurturing of a loving mom be replaced? No, but the jobs done around the house (which I'm guessing Lori Nantz did very little of herself) can be replaced and quite cost effectively with minimum wage workers. The next time a woman says "you can't put a price on what I do," send her this link. And the next time she says "being a Mom is a 24/7 job," ask her where you can get a job watching Oprah? On second thought, no one needs that job. 
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what's your mother worth? i bet you more than the combined value of those jobs. If I offered you a cash payment or your mother for the rest of your life, what would u take?
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11.04.09, 10:57 AM
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If Ms. Nantz can't make it on her own, then yes.
now we know why Henry VIII kept an axe handy!
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It really is amazing to see people arguing in favor of this crap. A guy works his ass off to give a woman a great life while she does nothing to contribute to the household income. Then, when the woman decides it's time to move on, she gets another fat payday in perpetuity until the next dumb ass marries her.
The whole system is setup in favor of gold diggers and we wonder why these women do it. Who can blame them? It's easy money with judges making rulings like this.
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11.04.09, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Van_Heineken
It really is amazing to see people arguing in favor of this crap. A guy works his ass off to give a woman a great life while she does nothing to contribute to the household income. Then, when the woman decides it's time to move on, she gets another fat payday in perpetuity until the next dumb ass marries her.
The whole system is setup in favor of gold diggers and we wonder why these women do it. Who can blame them? It's easy money with judges making rulings like this.
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gold diggers? they were married for 26 f-ing years.
just for the record, he was the one who filed for divorce, not her.
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11.04.09, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by It's Mike
the value of your family is everything you make.
I don't think that people that are worth tens of millions of dollars have any reason to argue over how the pie is divided. But in this case, the wife and child got about 1/4 of the pie and the husband for 3/4. I don't think this is unreasonable to the husband.
If i made 5 million dollars a year and it cost me a million to keep the most important person in my life and her mother comfortable, i would not complain. Would you?
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Don't know anything about CT law, but from the research I've been doing in TX, child support for one child is roughly 20% of non custodial parents salary, 25% for 2 kids, and no more than 30% for 3+ (of course, there are variables, such as health insurance, etc). There is no ongoing alimony in the state of TX, outside of any settlement. Alimony may be paid while the divorce is pending.
So for the wife to get 25% at this time seems fair, however she'll continue to receive 25% for as long as she lives, long after the child is off and potentially making money on her own.
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11.04.09, 11:06 AM
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what's your mother worth? i bet you more than the combined value of those jobs. If I offered you a cash payment or your mother for the rest of your life, what would u take?
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How big is the cash payment?
Be careful about making assumptions. Not everyone's mother is a paragon of motherhood to be placed on a pedestal .
You've just made the mistake that every novice lawyer is instructed not to. Do not ask a question unless you know the answer to it.
You're letting personal sentiment interfere with a monetary calculation. The judge is not charged with writing a storybook ending that celebrates mothers across the land. He's tasked with determining how much Jim Nantz' wife is worth. If she's never worked outside the home and the servants are doing the bulk of the work, I think the daughter should get what she needs and Lori needs to start polishing up that resume. As a judge, I think that sends the right ruling to "deadbeat moms" everywhere. But maybe that's just me.
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11.04.09, 11:08 AM
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gold diggers? they were married for 26 f-ing years.
just for the record, he was the one who filed for divorce, not her.
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It doesn't matter how long it takes one to go for the gold. It's whether or not one goes for it that determines if they are a gold digger.
There's gold diggers who want to screw a rich old guy into the ground within 5 years and there's ones who keep this Ace up their sleeve as their exit strategy whenever they may need it. Lori Nantz falls in the latter category.
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11.04.09, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Van_Heineken
It doesn't matter how long it takes one to go for the gold. It's whether or not one goes for it that determines if they are a gold digger.
There's gold diggers who want to screw a rich old guy into the ground within 5 years and there's ones who keep this Ace up their sleeve as their exit strategy whenever they may need it. Lor Nantz falls in the latter category.
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and you were able to figure this out from one article.
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11.04.09, 11:11 AM
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How big is the cash payment?
Be careful about making assumptions. Not everyone's mother is a paragon of motherhood to be placed on a pedestal .
You've just made the mistake that every novice lawyer is instructed not to. Do not ask a question unless you know the answer to it.
You're letting personal sentiment interfere with a monetary calculation. The judge is not charged with writing a storybook ending that celebrates mothers across the land. He's tasked with determining how much Jim Nantz' wife is worth. If she's never worked outside the home and the servants are doing the bulk of the work, I think the daughter should get what she needs and Lori needs to start polishing up that resume. As a judge, I think that sends the right ruling to "deadbeat moms" everywhere. But maybe that's just me.
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if you can honestly ask that question then i feel sorry for you.
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11.04.09, 11:11 AM
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He didn't get screwed.....he pulling 3.2 million......he paying out about a 1/3 to his ex and kid.....par for the course(pun intended)......which is a lower % of yearly than what I pay for my ex and 2 kids.....
I'm the one getting screwed
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11.04.09, 11:13 AM
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He didn't get screwed.....he pulling 3.2 million......he paying out about a 1/3 to his ex and kid.....par for the course(pun intended)......which is a lower % of yearly than what I pay for my ex and 2 kids.....
I'm the one getting screwed 
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thank you. he's actually paying much less than 1/3 when you take "other income' into consideration.
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11.04.09, 11:27 AM
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just for the record, he was the one who filed for divorce, not her.
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Without more facts, it's immaterial who filed first.
That's another red herring that's used to justify an excessive settlement. What if Lori was a bitch for 25 of the 26 years and Jim was a veritable Buddha in putting up with her until he finally couldn't take it anymore?
Conversely, if the woman files first, does that make her deserving of less? What if the man beat her, cheated on her, etc.
Who filed first means very little.
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11.04.09, 11:29 AM
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I'm the one getting screwed 
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Sorry to hear that compadre. The laws need to change.
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