Okay...

This is one of those threads that will piss off people, but when Sam was fronting VH he would always play a couple of songs from Dave catalog. So fair is fair I suppose, and if they were to do this (which we know they won't) which songs would you like to see Dave attempt?

I say Summer Nights since that was a left over track before Dave bolted that was changed up with Sammy and became what it is today...

***NONE***

Sing something from 5150...... the way it should have been in the first place.

Seriously, what song would you want him to sing? It sounded odd when Sammy and Gary sang the songs he did. It would be even crazier to see Dave sing a Sammy era song:wtf:

Seriously, what song would you want him to sing? It sounded odd when Sammy and Gary sang the songs he did. It would be even crazier to see Dave sing a Sammy era song:wtf:

Well it would be kinda cool to hear Dave doing Get Up or Summer Nights since they were originally written when he was in fact still in the band. But I do understand what you mean when Sammy sang unchained it sounded just not right...

Eagles Fly

None.

Moot point. Won't ever happen.

Eagles Fly

:spit:

won't happen...not in a million years...

The stuff that is in Roth's range, like Black n Blue,weren't big hits,


and the ones that were big hits, like Dreams....different vocal range, wouldn't sound right.

Sam I Am.

man...i have left this whole thought swept under the rug..didn't want to face that.
My guess is that there is no way in hell...

Alright, if I had to choose one, it would be FWYS.

***NONE***

I completely agree...I want room in the setlist for stuff that hasn't seen the light of day since 1984

In addition, I really would love for them to skip a few of the DLR songs that they DID play with SAM

Pleasure Dome would be the only thing I could come up with or maybe Humans Being without the "Shine On" parts.

Dave's vocal range would change the songs so much, plus it's not something he really has to do. Sammy being the replacement singer it was expected he would do some of the earlier songs (remember when people bitched that he didn't sing enough of them?) however I don't think anyone including people who like the Sammy era would want to hear Roth do anything but the 1st 6 albums.

Eagles Fly

Thats exactly what I was thinking that was always the take a piss and grab some fresh beer song
I can't figure out what song I will be able to do that at on this tour:headbang:

William From Long Island Says its Best ***NONE***

There was only 1 Sammy Hagar era Van Halen song that I could totally see Dave singing, (and singing well).....


FINISH WHAT YA STARTED

Josephina :D

MAS TEQUILA

Without a doubt....Summer Nights.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

I'm leaving this bitch open just to watch the trainwreck. :)

Thats exactly what I was thinking that was always the take a piss and grab some fresh beer song
I can't figure out what song I will be able to do that at on this tour:headbang:

Jump

I think FWYS is the only reasonable answer. They would only do one that was popular much like Jump and ATBL where done to death at Hagar shows. I think a rearranged version of Poundcake could work or Summer Nights.

I'm sure there are no plans to sing any SH stuff because Dave wouldn't and it leaves the door open two or three years down the road for Ed to say the Dave was insecure and wouldn't do any Sam stuff.

Sing something from 5150...... the way it should have been in the first place.

Damn..... This is not the reply I would have expected from you!

I say Summer Nights, FWYS or Poundcake.

Not Enough.

none

You Make Me Crazy

Gee, I wonder if this thing goes "on and on and on" like dave says it will,:rolleyes: eventually they would have to recognize the Sammy stuff.

Gee, I wonder if this thing goes "on and on and on" like dave says it will,:rolleyes: eventually they would have to recognize the Sammy stuff.

no they wouldn't

Its just a 1984 tour all over again, but not as cool. :)

The only thing he COULD sing would be Finish What ya Started. His voice isn't near what Sam's is. However, he won't sing any. Those songs won't be played again by VH until the farewell tour in 2010 with Sam, Dave & Mike. (after they realize that they can't write songs anymore).

:smokin:

Its just a 1984 tour all over again, but not as cool. :)

The only thing he COULD sing would be Finish What ya Started. His voice isn't near what Sam's is. However, he won't sing any. Those songs won't be played again by VH until the farewell tour in 2010 with Sam, Dave & Mike. (after they realize that they can't write songs anymore).

:smokin:

i'd pay to watch him kill When It's Love

i'd pay to watch him kill When It's Love
:funny:

"Baluchitherium"

Think of it in Biblical terms: Dave is "Old Testament"; Sammy is "New Testament." It's okay for New Testament Sammy to sample from and pay homage to the original scriptures of the Old Testament, but you aint NEVER gonna find Diamond Dave takin' NOTHIN' from the New Testament. It's just not part of his tradition and never will be.

CABO WABO!!!!

:(

Seriously though, with all due respect to Sammy, I would rather hear them do an acoustic "Good Times" or other Roth solo tune than Sammy...that was sooo.....2004 :)

E

Mine All Mine

poundcake anyone?

There's only one I'm remotely interested in hearing Dave's take on.....

Humans Being

" N O N E "

" N A D A "

" Z E R O "

" Z I L C H "

none...we've waited a lifetime of some of our forumites here(myself being born the year Roth left), to hear the hits played by Eddie and sung by Roth, I dont need any sammy songs, we got them in 04 and if your desperate to hear them check out the other half this summer in a half packed coffee house near you...

I'm really looking forward to hearing "Panama" and "Jump" sung correctly. Does that count?

The Sammy Era doesn't exsist anymore.

It's like DC Comics Zero Hour all those years ago.

>*POOF*<

HINA

Those eyes burn holes
Into the starry night
And when her sleepy eyes
Are open wide
You can fairly dance beneath her light
And I'd love to get to know the natives
But I'm only flesh and blood
She'll share your joys
But not your sorrows
Mistress of the coming flood.

Hina
Cool upon the silent sea
Isn't she the moon queen

Hina
Whispering, In my dreams
You must come back to me

And the tides rise and a distant sigh
Falls on deaf ears
Her vision makes you every inch a king
King for a million years
And she loves you when you're leavin'
And she'll leave you if you stay
She says...
"Don't tell me that you love me
You'll hate me for hearning it
When I drift away."

Hina
I can hear you softly cry
Your storms and lullablies

Hina
I'll whisper in your dreams
Till you come back to me.

Come back
But she will never stay
Come back
And you must never wait...,
Never wait. Never wait. Never wait.

Seriously, what song would you want him to sing? It sounded odd when Sammy and Gary sang the songs he did. It would be even crazier to see Dave sing a Sammy era song:wtf:


Say what you want about Cherone, I'm sure you all will, but Gary put his heart and soul into those classic tunes and did them better that tour (98)than Hagar ever did !

There were times during the Hagar tenure that I walked away just wishing they'd leave the old stuff alone, because it was sooo clear he didn't really want to do those tunes, and it showed.

I think Gary understood how much they meant to us, and did them justice.:smokin:

None.

There are too many CVH tunes that will get left unplayed as is, no need to leave more out with Sammy era songs(or Dave solo tunes).

If this actually lasts and they tour more and more, maybe you could throw in some Sam era(or Dave solo)down the road, but this time, it has to be nothing but CVH.

None.

There are too many CVH tunes that will get left unplayed as is, no need to leave more out with Sammy era songs(or Dave solo tunes).

If this actually lasts and they tour more and more, maybe you could throw in some Sam era(or Dave solo)down the road, but this time, it has to be nothing but CVH.


LMAO....just reading your sig, Menlow. I wonder how many times Mean Street has been pluralized on here in the past week...my guess is , more than usual.:smokin:

Dave should sing damn good. It would be pretty fitting!

LMAO....just reading your sig, Menlow. I wonder how many times Mean Street has been pluralized on here in the past week...my guess is , more than usual.:smokin:

It's been getting under my skin. ;)

None. 6 albums have for the larger part been ignored for the last 23 years. In the whole Sam era what was it that they ever sang in total-7 tunes? This is 7 out of what over 50 DLR era tunes to choose from??

Jump
Panama
ATBL
YRGM
SGMAD
RWTD
Unchained

AS a matter of fact I would love to hear all 7 with Dave singing them on this tour. Panama and Jump included. This will be different than the 04' tour where I was in the pisser during Sammy's solo spot and during When It's Love. This show for me won't have any moments to piss! Oh God I might have to invest in some adult nappies!

If Dave could sing them. I would love to hear.

5150
Best of Both Worlds
Dreams
Top of The World
Black and Blue
Poundcake
Naturally Wired
The Dream is Over
When it's Love
Cabo Wabo
Runaround
Don't Tell Me (What Love Can Do)
Right Now:

And a little Blue Grass Music....

Hell, I'm going to have to see the "Other Half" too.

:headbang:

It's just not going to happen, EVER.

It would be like Ozzy singing Neon Knights or Lady Evil.

I can see Dave doing a really good "Black and Blue"...

None. And, as someone else wrote, they can skip Jump, Panama and ATBL.
Play Drop dead legs, House of pain, Girl gone bad. Hear about it later, Dirty Movies, So this is love, Top Jimmy. I'd love it!
I would still love it if they would record new music, but I am not getting my hopes up.

I dont know if anyone has mentioned this, and I am not going through all the pages to find out :)

I dont see them doing any Sam-era stuff, unless they do it after Wolf's bass solo like MA did "Somebody Get me a Doctor." but I really doubt it. I think we are going to get classic VH tunes only.

I dont know if anyone has mentioned this, and I am not going through all the pages to find out :)

I dont see them doing any Sam-era stuff, unless they do it after Wolf's bass solo like MA did "Somebody Get me a Doctor." but I really doubt it. I think we are going to get classic VH tunes only.

I think everyone realizes this, hence some of the answers.

If Dave could sing them. I would love to hear.

5150
Best of Both Worlds
Dreams
Top of The World
Black and Blue
Poundcake
Naturally Wired
The Dream is Over
When it's Love
Cabo Wabo
Runaround
Don't Tell Me (What Love Can Do)
Right Now:



I think it's a safe bet that you'll NEVER hear Ed play that tune again ! EVER !!:smokin:

It's just not going to happen, EVER.

It would be like Ozzy singing Neon Knights or Lady Evil.

Fuck! Better yet, it would be like Dio singing anything from Cross Purposes or TYR for that matter.

Its a pretty safe bet that considering the apparent hatrage Eddie has for Sammy now(that kinda sounds familiar somehow)that he would like to pretty much erase '86 - 2004(including Gary) all together even though he can't. It's interesting to see Sam's take on this oh well. Lets let the show speak for itself before we praise or condemn.

None of them. They already had a Van Hagar tour in 04 and theres plenty of Dave era stuff that hasnt been heard live for 22 years and they have plenty to choose from.

Its a pretty safe bet that considering the apparent hatrage Eddie has for Sammy now(that kinda sounds familiar somehow)that he would like to pretty much erase '86 - 2004(including Gary) all together even though he can't. It's interesting to see Sam's take on this oh well. Lets let the show speak for itself before we praise or condemn.


I disagree in a sense.....I think Ed knows this tour is all about the classic tunes and he's fine with that. But I also think he's extremely proud of everything he's ever put on record musically, and would never want to "erase" any of it.......ESPECIALLY VHIII ! He was very proud of that record, which is why he was so discouraged by the feedback he got from it. He had ALWAYS made music to make himself happy first, and until 98, the fans were right there with him. But the poor record sales of that era really bummed him out, and I think it contributed to the long layoff !

Spanked. :devil:

None.

Moot point. Won't ever happen.

WE finally agree on something!!!! :)

Sam I Am.

ROFLMAO

PLEASE,,,we've had to endure 18 years of mostly sam's stuff,,,,,,I for one have had enough. Bring on the 6-pak

PLEASE,,,we've had to endure 18 years of mostly sam's stuff,,,,,,I for one have had enough. Bring on the 6-pak


Word.

Word.

Exactly....

How Many Say I :headbang:

Gee, I wonder if this thing goes "on and on and on" like dave says it will,:rolleyes: eventually they would have to recognize the Sammy stuff.


NO, Sammy & MA can do those songs . . .

If the DLR/VH keeps going on and on.... then the Sammmy era will simply fade away.... like it never happened. Really!! :D

Dave would never do it but:

Top o the World or FWYS

Thats exactly what I was thinking that was always the take a piss and grab some fresh beer song
I can't figure out what song I will be able to do that at on this tour:headbang:

I am wearin' diapers. I am to begin methodical testing this week on how many beers one Depends can hold. Stay tuned!

Given the premise that this unusual circumstance could ever happen, I would have to say that the ONLY song that would fit Dave's style would be "Sucker in a 3-Piece".

The most appropriate song for this tour would be "Big Fat Money"

But no, there shouldn't be any Hagar era. Not that Dave could pull any of them off anyway. :D

Let get one thing straight.

VHIII the worst CD I have ever purchased period... I really doubt you will here Van Halen playing anything off that CD. I don't care how proud Ed might be of that record. The fans hated it... I don't know one fan that said that was a good CD. Ed wrote the music while he was on the toilet and it showed.

Dave was singing Van Halen tunes to a Blue Grass Band. He'll sing whatever Wolfie tells him to. (Referring to Ed letting a 15 year old do the set list).

Didn't 2004 Tour have some classic VH songs? I bet Eddie after going through "step 9" in Rehab will add some Sammy songs. I personally would love to see if Dave could pull off singing "Why Can't This Be Love" or "Right Now". :rolleyes:

If they play any Sammy era songs I will kiss the person sitting next to me in the ACC. I swear. Look out who ever you are in Toronto...you better hope they don't play any Sammy songs...:D

I think everyone realizes this, hence some of the answers.

Did you miss the first part of my post? Guess so. Perhaps you have time to scroll through pages of answers but I dont. Good day.:thumb:

None. I don't want to hear Roth mangle great songs.

There was a link to Dave doing a cover of Baker Street on here several months ago. Not a fan of any of his solo work, but Dave owned that song.
Very, very impressed.

FWYS to me falls close to that.

That being said, no Sam era songs should be done.

Go get paid Dave.

I don't want to hear them play any. But if I had to pick one I would say Judgment Day.

I don't ever see DLR singing any hagar stuff. But I agree it would be cool if he did damn good... maybe in place of ice cream man.

I'm still not going to this train wreck though.

id like to hear all cvh and even something new, ive heard sams era for a loooong time. I think its fair to let it alone for now. If i was forced to choose, id choose "Aftershock". Not that i think dave would own it, but i think he could do a good job of freelancing on it, like Sam did to cvh tunes.

Yo me, a better question is: Do u think sam/mike will want to catch a show and if so, where?

Okay...

This is one of those threads that will piss off people, but when Sam was fronting VH he would always play a couple of songs from Dave catalog. So fair is fair I suppose, and if they were to do this (which we know they won't) which songs would you like to see Dave attempt?

I say Summer Nights since that was a left over track before Dave bolted that was changed up with Sammy and became what it is today...

:spit:

Okay. Been thinkin' bout this for quite some Time now. Hold on...

Sammy - Era -> This Dream is over or Humans Being
Gary - Era -> with the Thought of this one sounding really cool. From afar.

But on the other Hand........ Crazy Thread btw

Love Walks In :)
With a special dedication to FORD :)

In all seriousness though, no Sammy songs, it just wouldn't be right.

They should cover Avril Lavigne's "When You're Gone" in respect of Michael Anthony.


Seriously, with all Hagar era album covers excluded from their website, there's no way they'd play anything Hagar.

They are ignoring the Hagar era, like it never happened. Period.

But I reckon Dave could do a great version of "Sunshine on my shoulders" accousticly and on his own just before "Ice cream man".

Dave needs VH so bad, and he'll make the show his own.

It might be cool to hear Dave write new lyrics for some Sammy era tunes.
It won't happen on this tour, because they need to reestablish the classics again...
But Rothified Sammy tunes would be interesting.

It might be cool to hear Dave write new lyrics for some Sammy era tunes.
It won't happen on this tour, because they need to reestablish the classics again...
But Rothified Sammy tunes would be interesting.



Ed could finally get some new lyrics to Amsterdam !:smokin:

Seriously, what song would you want him to sing? It sounded odd when Sammy and Gary sang the songs he did. It would be even crazier to see Dave sing a Sammy era song:wtf:

My guess is DLR couldn't sing his songs.
Last bit of 'original' music DLR did was bluegrass VH classics

Beer Drinkers and Hell Raisers! :D (i know, not a sammy tune)

how about something from montrose? :D

DLR would butcher the Sammy era songs.

:eek:

Sammy doesn't sound good singing Dave songs and Dave can't sing Sammy songs.

The weird thing is, Gary could sing both, and get away with it.

I guess this is the reason Sammy and Dave fans can't agree on anything. They are so different in styles/sound.

Summer Nights and/or Black & Blue. They sound the most "Dave-like", IMO.

Humans Being.

The only Sam era tune they might do will be 316, as part of Ed's solo. And yes, I know Dave will not be singing during it. It will probably be a cute "father and son" moment for the show.

Dave once stated that he liked the song Aftershock. That or FWYS. Hell, maybe even Good Enough.

Sammy doesn't sound good singing Dave songs and Dave can't sing Sammy songs.

The weird thing is, Gary could sing both, and get away with it.

I guess this is the reason Sammy and Dave fans can't agree on anything. They are so different in styles/sound.

Agreed. Dave needs to stick to Dave songs.

Maybe this tour they will ignore the 86-96 stuff, but I just can't see them having big tour over and over with 78-84 music only. Look, if Dave went along with Wolfie picking the setlist...who knows what is in it. If I go to a Van Halen show and don't hear certain songs..hagar's and roth's included I would feel letdown. Have they ever played FWYS without an accoustic? I'm sure it can be done, but I doubt that will be the song they play.

i'd pay to watch him kill When It's Love

:funny:
That would be on par with Carrie Underwood or Sheryl Crow doing GNR's "Sweet child....". Oh the carnage.

I hated hearing Sammy sing DLR stuff. I'd hate it even more hearing DLR singing Sammy stuff. About the only SH-era thing I could remotely imagine being played is "Baluchitherium" because its instrumental but that would even be a turd in the punchbowl.

Dave once stated that he liked the song Aftershock. That or FWYS. Hell, maybe even Good Enough.

Not saying I doubt you, but I would love to know the context in which Dave said he liked a Van Hagar song. I don't think Sam played that on tour with Dave so when the hell would he have heard it?

To me that would be like Sam saying "wow, I just love Black Sand and Little Texas off the DLR Band album!"

Summer Nights - it's kinda Davish
FWYS - it's kinds Davish
Runaround (it can't be worse than Velvet Revolver)
Humans Being - if Ed and Wolfie can handle the Shine On chorus

If they were to do them four would be plenty.

DLR would butcher the Sammy era songs.

:eek:

as well he should

Sammy doesn't sound good singing Dave songs and Dave can't sing Sammy songs.

The weird thing is, Gary could sing both, and get away with it.

I guess this is the reason Sammy and Dave fans can't agree on anything. They are so different in styles/sound.

That's because Gary is the man. I want a VH III reunion dammit! :D

That's because Gary is the man. I want a VH III reunion dammit! :D



OOH! Me too!:D

That's because Gary is the man. I want a VH III reunion dammit! :D

LOL :funny: That's what we're all waitin' for. Isn't it?

I'm kinda hoping that they stick to the classic six pack,but have always thought Pleasure Dome would've sounded great if Dave had His hands on it first. The Dave Zone!:devil:

I really just want Dave to be Dave

i'd pay to watch him kill When It's Love

Silly. "When It's Love" butchers itself.

Silly. "When It's Love" butchers itself.

The sudden influx of Rothtards on this board is disturbing. :sssh:

none and I doubt they will.

Dave will NOT play a sam song...c'mon now.

The sudden influx of Rothtards on this board is disturbing. :sssh:

Don't u agree with the statement,that "when its' love" is a horrible cheesy song?

You are 100% correct! Dave isn't THAT desperate.

I know that the statements from these guys in past interviews are pretty much worthless, but the Diamond One did observe that every night Sammy would have to sing his VH (DLR) songs, but he (DLR) will never, ever have to sing a Sammy Hagar song.

True dat.

None.

Don't u agree with the statement,that "when its' love" is a horrible cheesy song?

Actually, I've always liked "When It's Love". Very well written song, great bluesy solo by Eddie. I'll never understand the logic that every ballad Van Halen did with Sammy was "horrible, cheesey, blah blah blah, I can only accept one version of Van Halen because I'm closed-minded yada yada yada".

Anyway, back on topic. I'll be really surprised if anything from the Sammy-era will be done. Nor do I want to hear DLR even attempt to sing Sammy songs.

Okay...

This is one of those threads that will piss off people, but when Sam was fronting VH he would always play a couple of songs from Dave catalog. So fair is fair I suppose, and if they were to do this (which we know they won't) which songs would you like to see Dave attempt?

I say Summer Nights since that was a left over track before Dave bolted that was changed up with Sammy and became what it is today...

I think he would be smokin' on Summer Nights.

i would have to vote for the long lost vh french language tracks; given dave's penchant for foreign language singing/speaking (see sonrisa salvaje and listen to any clip of his radio show), i think he can really pull these off:

v=lAoJTPrypfA

v=GSpMDFPxbfg

:D :thumb:

Sammy era songs will not be played on this tour, nor do I think they ever will, unless the band re-records them with DLR on vocals...and that is a super long shot.

Sammy stuff won't be played on this tour. I doubt the OP really expects that.
Poundcake ,Hot Summer Nights, Humans Being would be cool to name a few.

Since we are talking about things that won't happen. I think it would be interesting to hear what Dave would have come up with over the years on a lot of the cool riff's Ed created/ tunes VH created during the Sammy and Gary eras. Didn't Dave already have ideas for songs on 5150 like Hot Summer Nights before he was out? Love, like, or hate Sammy era there was some good music made and Ed came up with some tasty stuff.

I'm not sure I'd like to hear Dave sing Sammy era as much as I'd like to see them now blaze a trail with a new era. My ultimate hope is that they do well and down the road Wolfie moves on to do something on his own as an adult lol and Mike comes back. Ed makes it right with Mike and they ride off into the California sunset kicking ass as the Mighty Van Halen. lol:)

None

I'll never understand the logic that every ballad Van Halen did with Sammy was "horrible, cheesey, blah blah blah, I can only accept one version of Van Halen because I'm closed-minded yada yada yada".

Or maybe consider all those ballads actually suck. I like keys and synths
if they are good. I hate cheese rock. Which is odd, because I totally love
both cheese and rock. But putting them together is like putting Slim Jims
in your vodka.

Or maybe consider all those ballads actually suck. I like keys and synths
if they are good. I hate cheese rock. Which is odd, because I totally love
both cheese and rock. But putting them together is like putting Slim Jims
in your vodka.

Like Dreams... It's a pretty song but ....Some kind of alien reaches in and pulls a string love comes walking in....that is the worst IMO. Or maybe second to the Inside song. and I walk like someone else..hey! *cowers* Some Hagar VH tunes touch on greatness but the meat of it and the comercial stuff like right now and dreams is just so ugh. Like Mikey's voice is awesome on on fire, Light up the Sky and all that, incredible actually, but on stuff like Right now, and even the chorus the Human's Being..the Shine on part...its just so soft and girly. Not in a good way either. That always bugged me. A lot of potential in those tunes.

let me try this again with the long-lost VH french language tracks:

lAoJTPrypfA

GSpMDFPxbfg

let me try this again with the long-lost VH french language tracks:

lAoJTPrypfA

GSpMDFPxbfg

what is the point of this...go away please

what is the point of this...go away please

i'm not going anywhere... thanks... :rolleyes:

it's called a joke/parody...

i actually came across these in a thread on these boards several months back... i own all van hagar cd's and his solo/montrose stuff, so i'm not simply a rothtard bagging on sammy... relax... these guys, "all alumni" as dave would say, are all fair game to poke fun at... so get off your high horse... thanks :p

Or maybe consider all those ballads actually suck. I like keys and synths
if they are good. I hate cheese rock. Which is odd, because I totally love
both cheese and rock. But putting them together is like putting Slim Jims
in your vodka.

That's just your dweeb opinion, and you're entitled to it I guess. But that doesn't make it true.

WOLFGANG WILL SING THE SAMMY ERA CATALOG!

That's just your dweeb opinion, and you're entitled to it I guess. But that doesn't make it true.

Well, it's not true to say others can only accept the hard stuff from VH just
b/c they don't like the schmaltz. I loved stuff like One Foot Out the Door and
I'll Wait. But face it, those Sam ballads are corny and trite and as cringe-
inducing as anything by Foreigner or Journey. But wait, let me guess...

Sure it's subjective. A matter of taste. Or lack thereof.

F*** Van Hagar music!:brickwall

as far as ballads go, i wish they'd play "hear about it later" and "in a simple rhyme" but i don't see those on any lists as being rehearsed...

look, the sammy era was great in its own respect, but in fairness it has no resemblance to the dave era whatsoever, and this tour is really about revisiting the dave years...

i would imagine that the entire catalogue could get revisited live again somewhere down the road, but they're going to try and see how far a restart with dave can go first... if the vip packages have proved anything, money talks for the vh camp, so if it's sold to them that a sam and dave tour full on would mean huge business, it will happen, but right now it's all about the first 6 albums (and maybe the 2 songs from '96)...