I was thinking about the Chickenfoot setlist during the week, and how its going to look.
Its been stated they will do the whole album, so I'm guessing that will be 9 to 11 new songs, plus 9 0r 10 songs from the members back catalogues.
My question is, What VH songs would go over the best, if they did them. What songs would suit Satch?
For one, I reckon "One way to rock" would be fucking incredible, with sammy and satch both playing guitar.
As for VH album-wise, I'd go
Summer nights
Black and Blue
Runaround

The real question is whether Satch tries to cop EVH's sound and feel.

Vai chose not to in the EEASM days -- causing some (mostly non-guitarists I'd wager) to say that Vai sucked or could not play Eddie's stuff. Not only could Vai have copied Ed's playing note for note (and parroted Ed's tone), Vai had already done perfect transcriptions in musical and tablature notation of Ed's show pieces like Eruption and Spanish Fly. Vai chose to play and sound like Steve Vai and not simply copy Ed, so the songs sounded different when many fans wanted to hear a note for note VH tribute band like the Punks.

As EVH once said when he first heard Satch Boogie: "that dude has some Van Halen in him". I'd prefer hearing Satch play the Roth-era stuff, EVH's innovations and genius tapered off after Fair Warning.

But if its Sammy era, then I'd go for:

5150
Summer Nights
Cabo
Aftershock
Amsterdam

I rate those as the best guitar tracks Eddie put out in the Sammy era. Too bad we are likely to get the hits/schmaltz instead.

I rate those as the best guitar tracks Eddie put out in the Sammy era. Too bad we are likely to get the hits/schmaltz instead.

I don't know...I highly doubt we'll get any keyboard stuff. With all the great songs that could be played, I don't see anyone in the band pulling for WCTBL, When it's love, or God help us, Love Walks In.

I'd like to see:
Judgement Day
5150
Seventh Seal
Cabo

Hear About it Later(Mikey on Vox)

BOBW
man on a mission
crossing over
pound cake

All of them...plus he wouldn't be a drunk mess.

Gotta say, Chickenfoot playing Halen tunes seems a little out of place to me. As a fan going to see Chickenfoot I can't say that I'd even want to see a Sam era VH tune. Give me Chickenfoot tunes, Sam solo tunes, and some random covers. There's just something different about this band than Sammy and the Waboritas and I don't think any of them should feel a VH tune is necessary.

The real question is whether Satch tries to cop EVH's sound and feel.



As EVH once said when he first heard Satch Boogie: "that dude has some Van Halen in him". I'd prefer hearing Satch play the Roth-era stuff, EVH's innovations and genius tapered off after Fair Warning.

First and foremost I'd say none. I don't like to hear Satriani play any Van Hagar tunes. Second If I do recall the band is called ChickenFoot and is fronted by Sammy, then why the hell are they going to play any Roth era tunes??. And Third and last you said that Eddie's genius and innovations tappered off after Fair Warning... What! You have got to be kidding. While I think Edward has slow down his blaze out faster than hell style a bit, I have to say that I've been more than impressed with some of the work he has done over the years. Me Wise Magic and Respect The Wind comes to mind and some of the stuff on VH3 is simply brilliant. :)

[QUOTE=ThruVHfanatic;1113229]First and foremost I'd say none. I don't like to hear Satriani play any Van Hagar tunes. Second If I do recall the band is called ChickenFoot and is fronted by Sammy, then why the hell are they going to play any Roth era tunes??. QUOTE]

Mike played on Dave era Van Halen songs. Perhaps Chickenfoot can go to a 3 piece for those songs much like VH did with Mike doing SGMAD

All of them...plus he wouldn't be a drunk mess.

Ed was a drunk mess on the last half of the last tour? Guess you weren't there.

Satch can pull off any VH song, I mean c'mon, the guy can probably play them now better than Ed can. That is not meant as a slight to Ed, but his lifestyle has taken its toll on his playing abilities.

I would rather they just leave the VH out entirely, so we don't have to read a whole of posts about how Foot plays it better/worse than VH.

I also want to see this work out, so the fewer comparisons they bring upon themselves I think the better.

I can see Sammy wanting to play Dreams, but the keyboards could pose a problem. I'm not a big Sammy solo expert, but I don't believe he's into using sequenced/taped sounds at a show.

I'd say that Satch could handle pretty much anything from the VH era, and my hope is that he would add some of his own flavor since that's what playing live is all about.

Anyway, I plan on seeing this for myself from around 5th row center stage. :smokin:

Ed was a drunk mess on the last half of the last tour? Guess you weren't there.


Did I say that? In 2/3 of the last touring Eddie has done, he's been a drunk mess.

The only one they should do is SGMAD with Mikey on vocs...

other than that...nothing

Nah, I think Satch playing some VH will be very cool stuff. I don't think they'll play one lick of Dave era catalogue, even with Mike as one quarter of this outfit. They're going to play the whole CF album, plus draw off Sam's solo stuff, some Peppers, and Satch instrumentals, they're really not gonna have time for any CVH, they'll do Sam era VH.

I'd estimate there will be 2-3 Van Hagar tunes in the set. Presuming they ditch any piped in keyboard tracks (which I dearly hope they do, Sam's been doing it in his solo outings anyway), and with Satch behind the axe, if I had my druthers, I'd like to hear:

Humans Being (Satch's tone, Mike's backing vox, this is a no brainer, gimme)
Summer Nights
Seventh Seal*

*I'd have listed Don't Tell Me as my preferred Balance track, but I think that one's too signature Edward.

I can see Sammy wanting to play Dreams, but the keyboards could pose a problem. I'm not a big Sammy solo expert, but I don't believe he's into using sequenced/taped sounds at a show.


He's not. Instead, the Wabos play tweaked acoustic/electric axe versions of formerly synth tracks like Dreams and Right Now. FYI, the live guitar version of Right Now is FAR superior to the studio keyboard version.

I bet they wont do more than 5-6 VH songs tops. In the event they play that many I will say:

Best Of Both Worlds
Good Enough
5150 (This is wishful thinking - but I sure hope it's in there!)
Why Can't This Be Love
Cabo Wabo
Feelin'

I bet they wont do more than 5-6 VH songs tops. In the event they play that many I will say:

Best Of Both Worlds
Good Enough
5150 (This is wishful thinking - but I sure hope it's in there!)
Why Can't This Be Love
Cabo Wabo
Feelin'

Sammy did 5150 on the Sam and Dave Tour. It may not be that much of a stretch.

Sammy did 5150 on the Sam and Dave Tour. It may not be that much of a stretch.

Forgot about that! That was the highlight of the evening for me, damn that song rocks, one of my all time favorites by anybody.

Actually, I think Dave thankfully getting off the damn stage was the highlight of the evening. I don't think I have ever been more embarassed for a singer than I was after the show I saw. He was truly atrocious.

To be fair, he was awesome on this last tour when I saw them.

Sammy did 5150 on the Sam and Dave Tour. It may not be that much of a stretch.

I'll never forget that at all. At the time I wasn't as much of a diehard (I was ten years old! :D), but I loved that damn song at the time. So it was special.

As I reflect, if I had been the 17 year old obsessive fan I am now and heard that song, I'd flip a shit! :headbang:

I would imagine he could pull of any of them. In his own style of course.

Did I say that? In 2/3 of the last touring Eddie has done, he's been a drunk mess.



Did you say that? No. That's the whole fucking point. You didn't specify. You generalized that he was a drunk mess always and your fucking wrong. I just got done watching disc 2 of my Jersey boot from May of last year and he's sober as hell and dead on. That makes your post nothing but shit. Beyond that, I saw with my own eyes in St. Louis on 4-26-08 and he didn't miss a note. Bottom line, your post was wrong, and amazingly negative for a supposed 'fan' that's on VH's biggest fan site.

I don't recall Sammy doing 5150 on the Sam/Dave tour, but I do remember it being performed when he and Mikey did the Other Half.

I don't recall Sammy doing 5150 on the Sam/Dave tour, but I do remember it being performed when he and Mikey did the Other Half.

Yeah, thanks. I saw the Sam/Dave tour in Mansfield, Ma and don't recall hearing 5150. I swear I'd remember that one!

Did you say that? No. That's the whole fucking point. You didn't specify. You generalized that he was a drunk mess always and your fucking wrong. I just got done watching disc 2 of my Jersey boot from May of last year and he's sober as hell and dead on. That makes your post nothing but shit. Beyond that, I saw with my own eyes in St. Louis on 4-26-08 and he didn't miss a note. Bottom line, your post was wrong, and amazingly negative for a supposed 'fan' that's on VH's biggest fan site.

The Jersey boot!!!!! From May of last year?!?!?! Jeezus Christ. That's amazing!!! And you say you were in St. Louis?!?!? Fucking shit!!! I'm impressed. I really am. I didn't know this Oracle "Jersey boot" was all-knowing and somehow passed it's knowledge on to you. Where can I get this "Jersey-boot"? Does it give lessons? Is it free? Does it cook?

Best Of Both Worlds
"5150"
Summer Nights
Black And Blue
Runaround
Poundcake
The Dream Is Over
Top Of The World
The Seventh Seal
Aftershock
Feelin'
Don't Tell Me (What Love Can Do)
Humans Being

Psycho Vertigo - Planet US (Joe has actually played it before)
Make It Last - Montrose

Best Of Both Worlds
"5150"
Summer Nights
Black And Blue
Runaround
Poundcake
The Dream Is Over
Top Of The World
The Seventh Seal
Aftershock
Feelin'
Don't Tell Me (What Love Can Do)
Humans Being

Psycho Vertigo - Planet US (Joe has actually played it before)
Make It Last - Montrose

Hot damn, I agree 100%. Toss Good Enough in there and that's pretty much perfect.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought Psycho Vertigo. Originally a Planet US tune back in 2002, you have three-fourths of the band as a part of this project (Mike, Sam, and Joe who was a stand-in on the song before). It's a fantastic song, quite possibly the only one I find myself listening to off CUF.

I'm still pulling for Swept Away or Burnin' Down the City to be dug up, along with High Hopes and Salvation on Sand Hill :thumb:

What VH songs could Satch pull off?


How about ALL of them? He could play every one.

But if I had to choose ones I'd want to hear:

Good Enough
Balutchitherium
Pleasure Dome
Dream Is Over
Mine All Mine

They said Summer shows in Europe. And that means they'll have to be doing festival shows, shorter sets.

I'd expect 5-6 new songs and a short blend of hits. In Europe Van Halen are a LOT less well known which means they'll only have a few major songs to pull out of the bag, and other than that new material....simply because they can get away with it. The people watching will be curious people thinking "I should check out this band, wasn't that Hagar bloke really famous in the USA? And I know Chad's only a drummer but he IS in the Chillis. Guitarists alwsays go on about Satch too, he's gotta be good" so there won't be the pressure to do the big hits. So I think the VH and Satriani material won't be a major part of sets. Or the Chillis really....huge in Europe, but Sammy's voice is so different that it won't cater to Chillis fans even if it sounds good, it'll cater to Sammy fans or a new audience.

As for headline shows? Sammy's ego may demand him a solo spot like it did with Van Halen on some tours (I forget which ones), granting Mike lead vocals on a Dave-era tune would make sense. So it'd not shock me if Satch did a solo tune while Sammy took time out, and if Chad did a drum solo. I can see a Satch solo tune as a cool encore, which could morph into a classic VH tune with Mike taking on vocals. Then end with a Van Hagar song. I dunno where the solo would fit in, it'd keep Chad happy though...they said they'll do hits from all of them's careers and I just can't see that band doing Chillis tunes

Hot damn, I agree 100%. Toss Good Enough in there and that's pretty much perfect.
Oops, missed that one. "Good Enough" would work too.

Personally, I'd prefer the band steered away from the solo Hagar and RHCP material. Sammy can play his solo stuff with the Wabos.

Maybe they could throw in a Led Zeppelin cover for good measure as well.

If they are playing festivals the sets will be shorter. If they play European festivals, there would be no point playing VH because they've never been that big here and now they are just seen as some 80's band who had a couple of hits. Playing a VH tune might actually be detrimental.

I'd love to hear just CF tracks, they've got time to write a few more and give any fans a little treat of unrecorded music.

Bottom line: If the first 2 tracks are anything to go by, I don't think they need to delve in back catalogues. Something new and fresh will go over a lot better than twenty year old cover versions, especially here in Germany, where rock is still very big business.

I don't think Satch can play any VH stuff. I don't think he is that good. But, we will have to wait and see. Because nobody knows for sure. We are all guessing. One thing I do know for sure is Chickenfoot has the greatest singer of all time, the RED ROCKER Sammy fucking Hagar!

I don't think Satch can play any VH stuff. I don't think he is that good. But, we will have to wait and see. Because nobody knows for sure. We are all guessing. One thing I do know for sure is Chickenfoot has the greatest singer of all time, the RED ROCKER Sammy fucking Hagar!

Ummm....have you heard ANY of Satch's music?

I don't think Satch can play any VH stuff. I don't think he is that good. But, we will have to wait and see. Because nobody knows for sure. We are all guessing.

We're guessing Satch is good? Uh no most of us know he is. Are you new to music?

the question, if not already asked, is what songs can't Satch play?

Satch>Eddie

any day of the week

You don't have to worry about Satch covering Eddie's parts. The only thing I have a question about is who will be singing Eddie's harmonies? Satch's voice is still probably weaker than Eddie post cancer and I am not sure if Chad sings. I know Mike's harms are more dominant with VH songs but Eddie does fill out some songs here and there.

the question, if not already asked, is what songs can't Satch play?

Satch>Eddie

any day of the week

Agreed. Thirteen years ago it could've been up for debate, now I really don't see any argument there.

Did you say that? No. That's the whole fucking point. You didn't specify. You generalized that he was a drunk mess always and your fucking wrong. I just got done watching disc 2 of my Jersey boot from May of last year and he's sober as hell and dead on. That makes your post nothing but shit. Beyond that, I saw with my own eyes in St. Louis on 4-26-08 and he didn't miss a note. Bottom line, your post was wrong, and amazingly negative for a supposed 'fan' that's on VH's biggest fan site.

Anyone that says Eddie wasnt on his game during the 2nd leg of the last tour is either musicaly retarded, or just hates the guy for what i agree were less than well thought-out decisions. I dont have a problem with his son playing in VH....the Mike stuff could've been handled better, but i digress.

.I dont have a problem with his son playing in VH
I have a problem with that. They are a far lesser band as a result.

I certainly do not put Joe on a pedastle dwarfing Eddie.....i mean, Satch is an awesome player...one of my favs....but c'mon, lol. Now, as for the thread.....i feel Joe could play whichever tunes are picked...no doubt. I gather he'll put his own spin on them, too...and good ones, too. Let's just wait and see which ones they play....i'm sure they'll rock.

[QUOTE=topjimmy4vh;1114571].I dont have a problem with his son playing in VHQUOTE]
I have a problem with that. They are a far lesser band as a result.

Your opinion, and that's cool. I dont see it that way, but hey we cant all see eye to eye, lol.

I'm sure Satch could do 'em all. I just can't wait to hear some new music from the 'Foot!

Your opinion, and that's cool. I dont see it that way, but hey we cant all see eye to eye, lol.

He's not a professional musician, bass is not even his primary instrument of choice. It's absurd he's there. If they really felt the need to remove Mike, someone like Billy Sheehan would have been far more appropriate.

Nope, for me he's a waste of space on a VH stage or album.

To each their own.

[QUOTE=topjimmy4vh;1114576]

He's not a professional musician, bass is not even his primary instrument of choice. It's absurd he's there. If they really felt the need to remove Mike, someone like Billy Sheehan would have been far more appropriate.

Nope, for me he's a waste of space on a VH stage or album.

To each their own.

See, to me it would've been a bad move to hire Sheehan...and i'm a big fan of his. To have Eddie and Billy hot doggin' it would've been cool for us musicians...but it would leave alot of people cold. Plus, Billy's voice is really low...but hey, as you said, to each their own.

See, to me it would've been a bad move to hire Sheehan...and i'm a big fan of his. To have Eddie and Billy hot doggin' it would've been cool for us musicians...but it would leave alot of people cold. Plus, Billy's voice is really low...but hey, as you said, to each their own.
Sheehan was just a name that sprung to mind, what I really mean is Mike should have been replaced by a profsessional bassist from the same era as the band, that is if it was absolutely necessary to replace him at all. :)

As it has been said..Satch can play any VH tune required with ease. I doubt he'd go the note for note on the solos and all that as has also already been pointed out. He'd likely get the main vibes and themes down and just fill in the rest with his twist on it.

If I put more thought into this I might think of better but Poundcake, Hot Summer Nights, and Humans Being would be VERY cool imo. Seventh Seal too would be cool but doubtful eh? I think they "might" play Somebody get me a Doctor cause of the Mike singing thing but likely not...besides Doctor I'd bet YOUR left nut lol that CVH will NOT be played or considered. If Sam didn't want to do much of it in VH why would he in this band? Makes no sense. I sure hope the play a couple cool Montrose songs though. I dig most of that stuff and with Joe playing and Mike backing up Sam with vocals..holy shit!!

Really though if they do play VH I hope it's just 2 or 3 VanHagar tunes tops. Focus on the new and on Sam's music more than RHCP or VH. If a Satch tune comes in, it may be more about his solo spot. He has some tunes with vocals and all that but I don't think they need to get into any of that. ;)

Still loving these songs. Liking Down the Drain A LOT! not just cheerleading cause I'm bored lol. I really like these tunes, the groove they get and all aspects are totally respectable and kick ass. I can see into the future and hearing Down the Drain 5 years from now and thinking "oh yeah, this tune rocks" and not" oh God, Can't believe I liked that". Reason I say that is the tunes groove and performance is respectable and kick ass on all points. Good music is good music. This doesn't sound dated, forced or dialed in. Sounds inspired and fun with some attitude. Nice Chemistry. Better than expected.

Outside of the new Chickenfoot material, I'd preder the concentrated on the guitar driven Hagar era VH more than Sam's solo tunes.

Afterall, both Sam & Mike were involved with that stuff. Leave Sam's solo work to the Wabo's. No need for any RHCP or CVH material either.

I agree they could have a crack at some Montrose stuff as that would certainly fit the sound. Perhaps thay could play the Planet Us track "Psycho Vertigo". Satch has played that with Sam & Mike before...

We're guessing Satch is good? Uh no most of us know he is. Are you new to music? I used to waste my time responding to these ignorant comments. Now I don't bother. Brett......don't wast your time. Save your energy Brett. You would go blue in the face explaining how Satch could not only play those parts with serious flare and conviction but he could play them backwards ! NOT kidding !

I just think it's funny someone is dumb enough to say Satch couldn't play any of Ed's licks.....OH PUHLEASE. There are tribute band guys that play Ed's licks flawlessly, but Satch can't. Yah ok there.

The real question is could Ed play any of Satriani's shit?

I just think it's funny someone is dumb enough to say Satch couldn't play any of Ed's licks.....OH PUHLEASE. There are tribute band guys that play Ed's licks flawlessly, but Satch can't. Yah ok there.

The real question is could Ed play any of Satriani's shit? yeah ! no shit. great point. It's funny I was thinking the same thing. Truth...... not being a hater..... I doubt he could.

Just thought I would add this...... I thought this was interesting coming off the other thread about eddie " dismissing Hendrix". Satch obviously feels the opposite , seems he is very appreciative of what hendrix brought to the table !http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UxxuxS1ybU

Just thought I would add this...... I thought this was interesting coming off the other thread about eddie " dismissing Hendrix". Satch obviously feels the opposite , seems he is very appreciative of what hendrix brought to the table !http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UxxuxS1ybU


Very cool man, thx for posting it

I just think it's funny someone is dumb enough to say Satch couldn't play any of Ed's licks.....OH PUHLEASE. There are tribute band guys that play Ed's licks flawlessly, but Satch can't. Yah ok there.

The real question is could Ed play any of Satriani's shit?

The first thought I had when I first heard Baluchitherium was, man that sounds like Satriani!

A couple of Satriani tunes that Sam could only improve on are Big Bad Moon and he would sing the shit out of I Believe. Strange is also a great vocal tune of Satch's that would sound great.

Maybe Satch isn't well known in Australia and besides these tunes if the OP heard them he's not very familiar with Satch at all? Just tossing that in. Not everyone is a musician, guitarist or in tune with it all. What may seem ignorant to you may seem like a good question 2 someone else. Sorry to keep playing peacemaker but the person may be clueless in regards to Joe Satriani and how his playing would be compatible.

Maybe Satch isn't well known in Australia and besides these tunes if the OP heard them he's not very familiar with Satch at all? Just tossing that in. Not everyone is a musician, guitarist or in tune with it all. What may seem ignorant to you may seem like a good question 2 someone else. Sorry to keep playing peacemaker but the person may be clueless in regards to Joe Satriani and how his playing would be compatible.

Read lincared's past posts, you'll know that's not the case.

I just think it's funny someone is dumb enough to say Satch couldn't play any of Ed's licks.....OH PUHLEASE. There are tribute band guys that play Ed's licks flawlessly, but Satch can't. Yah ok there.

The real question is could Ed play any of Satriani's shit?

True that. I'd be willing to bet there are a ton of little dittie's EVH couldn't do of satch's.

I don't think the same can be said the other way around.

Satch is sickening good.

EVH might have (or rather may have had back in the day) a better right hand, but satch has the left pretty much wrapped up.

Maybe Satch isn't well known in Australia and besides these tunes if the OP heard them he's not very familiar with Satch at all? Just tossing that in. Not everyone is a musician, guitarist or in tune with it all. What may seem ignorant to you may seem like a good question 2 someone else. Sorry to keep playing peacemaker but the person may be clueless in regards to Joe Satriani and how his playing would be compatible.

He has packed the house every time he has made the long trip over. He also played with Jagger and did a famous gig at a small local venue (The Corner Hotel -1000 capacity tops) after they played the Tennis Centre the same night in Melbourne. Surfing with the Alien also made the mainstream top ten charts for a number of weeks when it came out and was played to death on mainstream radio. I know that was a loooong time ago but Satch is a god here amongst guitar players and probably has a little more cred than Ed does to be honest.

Glad to hear Satch is known and loved down under and sorry for interrupting with my presumptuous thoughts.

True that. I'd be willing to bet there are a ton of little dittie's EVH couldn't do of satch's.

I don't think the same can be said the other way around.

Satch is sickening good.

EVH might have (or rather may have had back in the day) a better right hand, but satch has the left pretty much wrapped up.

There are a TON of guitarists better technically than Ed. Many that aren't even signed or of legal drinking age. The important thing to keep in mind here is riff and song writing. How your solos compliment the music and what music is your soloing complimenting in the first place. This is what separates the Guitar Gods from the rest of us. :) Ed's got it. This is not CF related so sorry to be off topic. Just sayin

Glad to hear Satch is known and loved down under and sorry for interrupting with my presumptuous thoughts.

Always enjoy reading your thoughts AtOmicPunk and they are rarely presumptuous.

Always enjoy reading your thoughts AtOmicPunk and they are rarely presumptuous.

Thanks man. sometimes I feel like I'm sticking my nose where it doesn't belong but as a lifelong VH fan I also feel like I belong and should say what I think. lol

Anyways, I'm glad so many of us agree on CF. It's hard to argue with the quality of these two tunes. I hope something on the Cd ends up being a hit on the radio this summer. unlikely maybe? would be cool when I take the fam to the beach to hear it on the boardwalk like days of old lol cause it does rock and is deserving of such success.

There are a TON of guitarists better technically than Ed. Many that aren't even signed or of legal drinking age. The important thing to keep in mind here is riff and song writing. How your solos compliment the music and what music is your soloing complimenting in the first place. This is what separates the Guitar Gods from the rest of us. :) Ed's got it. This is not CF related so sorry to be off topic. Just sayin

It's not off topic at all. It pretty much goes right along with it so no need to apologize.

You've got a great point. While Joe's technically better, I like EVH's songwriting quite a bit more, although I think Joe has a much larger and more diverse catalog of guitar music. They're both masters. Joe is just a bit more active and has an imagination that can still mesh/keep up with his dexterity. I don't think Ed has that anymore.

It's not off topic at all. It pretty much goes right along with it so no need to apologize.

You've got a great point. While Joe's technically better, I like EVH's songwriting quite a bit more, although I think Joe has a much larger and more diverse catalog of guitar music. They're both masters. Joe is just a bit more active and has an imagination that can still mesh/keep up with his dexterity. I don't think Ed has that anymore.


I think Ed still has a gifted sense of music composition/creation and how to work the notes into something wonderful. I think what he might lack due to...who knows?..substance abuse..becoming complacent with pushing his limits..maybe he's not hungry anymore..his knuckles do look large maybe he has physical probs?..who knows but he may not be the fastest hot rod anymore but he still is like the keeper of the secret flame. lol You know what I mean? Stevie Ray once said when on stage with B.B. King at some benefit concert where they were trading solos...Stevie out of respect but the friendly competitive spirit we all have was trying his best to out blues/groove B.B. King...and Stevie said after giving it his best shot on a solo break B.B. ripped his face off with ONE note during his solo response. The way he played the note overshadowed the genius SRV layed out, in SRV's mind.
Now we can all maybe laugh at that? saying BB King versus SRV yeah right..but I think there is something to it. In that moment in Stevie's mind BB hit it dead on where Stevie with all his ability felt missed the target in comparison. So even a slowed down Ed still has the ability to create something very special. I really hope we all get to hear it soon.

You know that wicked-ass solo Eddie plays in "5150" from LWAN? I'd love to hear Satch put his spin on that baby.

Elsewise, leave VH off the set list. I like the idea someone else brought up: Do the entire CF CD and some bad-ass covers from bands these guys love.

straight up if they are gunna play some van hagar.......

judgement day
the inside (from left field)
humans being (with satch and sam trading off inthe middle and outro.

oh, and i forgot, in the middle of 'the inside' , satch breaks out a bit of ice9, they are similar groove and would absoloute kill live.

also if they are going for chad's discograpghy, Id love to hear sam rip up higher ground, with a heavier satch groove.

there's two killer tunes that would fuckin wail.

Personally I'd like to hear them do the entire album and perhaps a cover of each member's choosing. If I were in the band, I would try NOT to do an VH stuff...doubly so if I were Mike and Sam...not because I didn't think I had a right to because they do. My reasoning would be rooted in wanting people to come see Chickenfoot first and foremost, not half of Van Halen. I wouldn't want people going to a Chickenfoot show and hoping that a Van Halen concert shows up.

I would tell Mike and Sam to leave the VH material for their Other Half shows or their parties at Cabo...at least for the time being.

I understand why so many people are desperate to hear some of their favourite VH tunes by Sam and Mike with such an awesome guitar player as Satch but it just seems like the wrong call to make right now. Maybe tease it here and there but hold off until the next tour...assuming there will be one. I'd just like to focus to be on Chickenfoot the band...NOT on VH.

I'll say it again, there's no need to play any Halen tunes. Here you've got a new band that's created a ton of positive energy that they're all excited about and they're gonna play a song written by Eddie? Why? Why even drag a single connection to Ed into the show? Really just seems out of place to me. There's no need for it.

"I Believe" would be a cool Satch tune for them to cover and it has vocals.

I'll say it again, there's no need to play any Halen tunes. Here you've got a new band that's created a ton of positive energy that they're all excited about and they're gonna play a song written by Eddie? Why? Why even drag a single connection to Ed into the show? Really just seems out of place to me. There's no need for it.

I'd say that they would never leave out VH from anything they do. Why? Because the masses equate Sammy with VH more than anything. To the younger or unschooled fans, they may not even connect Mike with anything other than Sammy. Obviously Joe and the peppers guy have no stake in that other than being able to fill out a set with some familiar tunes in addition to their own.

Plus, why shouldnt they do some VH? They were in VH....they have a guitar player that can do the songs justice.....and, they are great songs. If they let Satch do some of his material, and especially if they entertain the chili peppers for a tune or 2, they better do some VH!

I'll say it again, there's no need to play any Halen tunes. Here you've got a new band that's created a ton of positive energy that they're all excited about and they're gonna play a song written by Eddie? Why? Why even drag a single connection to Ed into the show? Really just seems out of place to me. There's no need for it.

I agree.

However, who's to say it won't happen? Sam pulled out VH songs for years following the very bitter break-ups, somehow I can see a couple VH songs finding their way into the setlist.

I still can see a couple Satch tunes, RHCP tunes, Hagar solo tunes, and Montrose tunes working their way into the set very well. VH would bring negative energy, which is why it may be best for them to avoid it. A con to this argument would be that Sam and Mike have very fond memories of recording and playing the songs in their heyday, and just wanted to play them again in a live setting.

That being said, I would not mind hearing "Good Enough" torn up right in front of me if it just so happened to find it's way into the set :D :thumb:

Plus, why shouldnt they do some VH? They were in VH....they have a guitar player that can do the songs justice.....and, they are great songs. If they let Satch do some of his material, and especially if they entertain the chili peppers for a tune or 2, they better do some VH!

Well Ed's been a monumental douche bag to both Sam and Mike and I don't think there's a need to drag Ed's music into their show. They have a new band with new songs and they're pretty geeked up about it. Nothing but positive energy going on with these guys and the image of Ed to them is nothing but negative. Sam's played enough VH at his own shows through the years, he doesn't need to play them at a Chickenfoot show too.

I know I'm probably in the minority on this but that's just my take on it. I don't think they owe the fans anything in terms of playing VH.

I'm pretty sure they'll do "Satch Boogie." Would be perfect for this band.

Well Ed's been a monumental douche bag to both Sam and Mike and I don't think there's a need to drag Ed's music into their show. They have a new band with new songs and they're pretty geeked up about it. Nothing but positive energy going on with these guys and the image of Ed to them is nothing but negative. Sam's played enough VH at his own shows through the years, he doesn't need to play them at a Chickenfoot show too.

I know I'm probably in the minority on this but that's just my take on it. I don't think they owe the fans anything in terms of playing VH.

So Ed's a douch and they shouldnt play any of the tunes......but if they didnt it'd be "why not? They helped make the tunes".....you cant win with some of you guys, lol. Hey, it's your take and that's great....but others here have weird logic.

I love Satch but that one still makes me cringe.

Satch did have a minor vocal hit off the same album (Flying In a Blue Dream) called "Big Bad Moon". Now that one might work perfectly for the Chickens!
I could see Joe getting a little "Crowd Chant" going during the show from his next to last album. I'd love to hear the Chickens blow through Ice 9, Satch Boogie and/or Cool No. 9 but my guess is Joe gets at most one instrumental song on the set list.

I love Satch but that one still makes me cringe.

Satch did have a minor vocal hit off the same album (Flying In a Blue Dream) called "Big Bad Moon". Now that one might work perfectly for the Chickens!
I could see Joe getting a little "Crowd Chant" going during the show from his next to last album. I'd love to hear the Chickens blow through Ice 9, Satch Boogie and/or Cool No. 9 but my guess is Joe gets at most one instrumental song on the set list.

I don't know, I can see them doing a couple Satch instrumentals. They seem to have the "ol' school rock / jam band" thing going on with them, I think instrumentals of any kind would fit right in.

I still think If I Could Fly should go in there as a big "FUCK YOU" to Coldplay :D

So Ed's a douch and they shouldnt play any of the tunes......but if they didnt it'd be "why not? They helped make the tunes".....you cant win with some of you guys, lol. Hey, it's your take and that's great....but others here have weird logic.


Not from me. I've just felt all along that this band is too different from what Sam's done all these years on his own and I just don't think VH tunes would fit. But it's a moot point, I'm sure they'll play a song or two.

I'd rather they played some Hagar era Van Halen to fill out the set. Just steer away from the keyboard driven tracks. I'm sure I read somewhere that the Chickenfoot album would include 10 tracks.

If that's the case and and they do say 19 tracks live, play all 10 Chickenfoot tracks, 1 Planet US track, 1 from Montrose, a Led Zeppelin cover and 6 Van Halen tracks. Throw in a solo from Satriani and it would suit me just fine...

I love Satch but that one still makes me cringe.



Played alongside 'How many say I' and 'I Believe' is a frigg'n masterpiece.

WARNING! SPOILS!!!

Apparantly they WILL PLAY some of everything.
I heard from a friend that they are gonna play:

The Entire Chickenfoot album except for 1 song.
They have rehearsed:

Chili Peppers: Give it Away, Suck My Kiss, Higher Ground and Under the Bridge

Van Halen: Top of the World, Dreams (no keys), Summer Nights, 5150 (all with Sam on Vocals)

Van Halen: Somebody Get Me A Doctor, Runnin with the Devil (Mike on vocals)
I guess they will do 1 a night AND Mike will do a short REAL bass solo afterwords...

Sammy Hagar: 55, 1 Way to Rock

I guess Joe will do a long Jam with Mike and Chad that turns into a rippin drum solo and then a rippin guitar solo..(Including the If I can Fly section!)

Apparantly they are gonna mix up the setlist every night! and play a couple of each. My friend owns a place in Cabo and was just out there and heard rumors from a manager there. Take it with a grain of salt. :smokin:

WARNING! SPOILS!!!

Apparantly they WILL PLAY some of everything.
I heard from a friend that they are gonna play:

The Entire Chickenfoot album except for 1 song.
They have rehearsed:

Chili Peppers: Give it Away, Suck My Kiss, Higher Ground and Under the Bridge

Van Halen: Top of the World, Dreams (no keys), Summer Nights, 5150 (all with Sam on Vocals)

Van Halen: Somebody Get Me A Doctor, Runnin with the Devil (Mike on vocals)
I guess they will do 1 a night AND Mike will do a short REAL bass solo afterwords...

Sammy Hagar: 55, 1 Way to Rock

I guess Joe will do a long Jam with Mike and Chad that turns into a rippin drum solo and then a rippin guitar solo..(Including the If I can Fly section!)

Apparantly they are gonna mix up the setlist every night! and play a couple of each. My friend owns a place in Cabo and was just out there and heard rumors from a manager there. Take it with a grain of salt. :smokin:

Uhh, sir. I'll gladly take these spoilers with that grain of salt. Thanks very much! :thumb:

I guess I shouldn't be too surprised with the list of "hits." If they're gonna play the whole album I guess we shouldn't have expected deep cuts to be played if this is the final list of songs. The sheer fact that "5150" is on there put a big smile on my face, haven't seen that one in concert since 2002.

Each guy gets a solo? SWEET! Gonna be nice to see Mikey tear it up again like he did in 2006. I wouldn't mind seeing One Way to Rock with the Van Halen spin on it of an extended guitar solo, never got to personally see that live.

I'm not completely satisfied, would like to see your Judgement Days, Humans Beings, etc. But I think the list they put together is sufficient regardless.

Hey, this would be the only Sam show I'd attend where Why Can't This Be Love won't have been played. No complaints there! :D

...Gonna be nice to see Mikey tear it up again like he did in 2006...

By that, I mean like THIS:

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I'd like to see Good Enough or The Seventh Seal

Under the Bridge with Mikey singing backing vocals would be EPIC on that last chorus.

Uhh, sir. I'll gladly take these spoilers with that grain of salt. Thanks very much! :thumb:

I guess I shouldn't be too surprised with the list of "hits." If they're gonna play the whole album I guess we shouldn't have expected deep cuts to be played if this is the final list of songs. The sheer fact that "5150" is on there put a big smile on my face, haven't seen that one in concert since 2002.

Each guy gets a solo? SWEET! Gonna be nice to see Mikey tear it up again like he did in 2006. I wouldn't mind seeing One Way to Rock with the Van Halen spin on it of an extended guitar solo, never got to personally see that live.

I'm not completely satisfied, would like to see your Judgement Days, Humans Beings, etc. But I think the list they put together is sufficient regardless.

Hey, this would be the only Sam show I'd attend where Why Can't This Be Love won't have been played. No complaints there! :D



Even though this is all rumor right now, the setlist does have me kind of pumped, especially seeing 5150 on there. :smokin:

I really wish Sam would put 55 in a box and bury it though, that tune is so washed up to me at this point. :sleep:

I really wish Sam would put 55 in a box and bury it though, that tune is so washed up to me at this point. :sleep:

Try seeing him in concert six times and having to hear it every time. I was on stage last time for Christ's sake and just couldn't get into it...

One Way to Rock, extended solo or original, doesn't really tire for me. It's a great song.

The thought of Mikey pumpin' out the lead bassline to Higher Ground is very intriguing, to say the very least.

Try seeing him in concert six times and having to hear it every time. I was on stage last time for Christ's sake and just couldn't get into it...

I hear ya, for me that tune is a lot like RWTD...it rocked me out back in the day, but now, well, eh.

One Way to Rock, extended solo or original, doesn't really tire for me. It's a great song.

:thumb: I still would like to see Heavy Metal in there with an an extended solo with Satch, Mikey and maybe even Sammy himself rocking it out. IMHO, that could be badass!:smokin:

The thought of Mikey pumpin' out the lead bassline to Higher Ground is very intriguing, to say the very least.

Hell, after the VH mach IV deal, I'm just plain looking forward to seeing Mike onstage again. You figure the last time I saw the dude live and in person was over 25 years ago. :(

I hear ya, for me that tune is a lot like RWTD...it rocked me out back in the day, but now, well, eh.

Yeah, no kidding, seems like RWTD has aged the same with me as it has some of you vets. Awesome at first, but after years of hearing it, it becomes rather "meh." Though seeing it for the first time live in 2006 was kinda cool regardless. And it wasn't even Van Halen!

:thumb: I still would like to see Heavy Metal in there with an an extended solo with Satch, Mikey and maybe even Sammy himself rocking it out. IMHO, that could be badass!:smokin:

Never seen something of the sort, though that would be cool. I'll take an extended Heavy Metal over 55 any day!

Hell, after the VH mach IV deal, I'm just plain looking forward to seeing Mike onstage again. You figure the last time I saw the dude live and in person was over 25 years ago. :(

Mike's a lot of fun, whether you're in the cheap seats or right up next to him. I'm sure you're aware of that because you were lucky enough to see him in his heyday with VH. 25 years later, though, still a ton of fun!

Yeah, no kidding, seems like RWTD has aged the same with me as it has some of you vets. Awesome at first, but after years of hearing it, it becomes rather "meh." Though seeing it for the first time live in 2006 was kinda cool regardless. And it wasn't even Van Halen!

Yeah, the live boots are about the only way I'll listen to it these days, and don't even get me started on Little Dreamer as that one got the FF button on the cassette deck in the car even back in the 80's. ;)

Never seen something of the sort, though that would be cool. I'll take an extended Heavy Metal over 55 any day!

I forget what show and when :drunk: , but I saw Sammy, pre VH, do a kick ass version of Heavy Metal back in the day. Rocked the hell out of the album cut!:headbang:

Mike's a lot of fun, whether you're in the cheap seats or right up next to him. I'm sure you're aware of that because you were lucky enough to see him in his heyday with VH. 25 years later, though, still a ton of fun!

Yep, which almost has me rethinking my original statement about not wanting any CVH on this tour. There are just so many tunes that he could carry on his own that would kick ass and take names.:thumb:

Satch can no doubt pull off any VH tune!

Everybody has an opinion about the Van Halen songs.

Has anyone thought that perhaps Sammy and Mike left it up to the band whether they play some Van Halen songs or not? And perhaps both Satch and Chad said, "Screw that, we'd love to play some Van Halen!"

It sounds like this band is running without a "leader" as a true band should so if they're playing some Van Halen I'm sure they all want to do it. It's their band. Go to the concert and accept what a Chickenfoot show is, not what you want it to be. And those of you who can't deal with that because they're playing a few Van Halen songs, then it sounds like you should stay at home.

This has probably been said, if so forgive me...but I think the real question isn't what tunes Satch could pull off, but rather, which ones does he feels like playing?

I've always been of the opinion that Satch is more than one of those Ed-clone wankers that filled the bargain bin back in the late 80s-early 90s (one thing I'm actually thank Nirvana for is killing off that nonsense). I think the diff between Satch and the Jennifer Battons and Steve Vais and Malmsteems of the world is his composition skills. Many of his songs aren't just "how fast" or "how many effects"--they're actually songs that are supported by solid structure and the use of the guitar as an ensemble piece. In other words, I think Satch, even though he's a "soloist" has always had more of a band mentality.

That being said, any debate on whether or not he's technically proficient enough to "pull off" one of Ed's songs is just stupid. Of course he could...the dude's a guitar jedi. But I think that would be insulting to Satch. He has his seat at the table...he's not some kid at Guitar Center trying to impress anyone with his rendition of Eruption. I think (maybe hope) that if some VH tunes pop up on tour, Satch will hint at Ed's solo and then jump off into something different. Afterall, that's what Ed does when they hit some Zep or The Who.

With all the talk of covering Van Halen tunes, what songs could Sammy pull off that are by the RHCP?? Realistically, I can't think of one original song they have done that I could picture Hagar singing on and making it work unless they completely changed it by slowing the tempo or something. It would be embarassing to see Sammy trip all over the words while singing Give it Away or Dani California. I think for sure they should play at least one or two classic VH songs and let Mikey do vocals, because he was/is obviously a huge part of their sound.

Satch can play any Van Halen song he wants...

EVH is not untouchable for a guy like Joe.