Hey Redheads...haven't posted here in a LONG LONG time, how is everyone?

What's Sam been up to lately? I haven't heard much, I sure wish he would go back out on tour. I went to a show in MA in like November, and it was one of the greatest shows ever...that man can ROCK (plus I got his autograph! smilies/biggrin.gif )

Haven't listened to 10-13 much lately, but I've been thinkin' about breakin' it back out for a while (I go on listening binges).

Personally, I get the feeling that DLR is coming back to VH soon, and I don't mind it, I love the DLR years, almost as much as the Sam years, but I have to admit that DLR, at this stage, will most likely help them to get back to the top (however fleeting).

Hopefully we'll get to see the Redrocker reunite with the VH boys at the RnR Hall of Fame. Anyone else plan on making the treck to Cleveland when they get inducted? I know I am.

Peace out UFF'ers

Glad to see a new UFF thread up again. smilies/cool.gif Sammy may not be back in Van Halen right now, but if things don't work out with Dave, he could be the backup plan. smilies/wink.gif

The last I heard was that Sammy is taking a few months off to be with his wife and new daughter and continuing to work on new music. smilies/smile.gif

Hello my UFF Brothers
I don't think it matters to most of us if Sammy goes back to VH or not. What we enjoy is the live tours and new music from the man. We will continue to get that whether it is solo Sammy or he reunites with either Montrose or van halen. Both seem equally unlikely. Seems like this whole Van Halen saga is just like a circle. We are no closer to knowing what is going on than we were a year and a half ago. Hopefully Ed is ok,a mans health is the most important thing after all. After that I think it should be Van halens choice as to who or what they want to do. I am sure Roth was brought in because of pressure from the record company.
I don't want to hear music born from a corporate decision. corporate powers are also the ones who would want Sammy back if it doesent work with Dave. I think Van halen would be better to get there own singer whoever they want to make music with. Maybe all of us here at the links wouldn't like it best. But I am pretty sure it is the decision that the brothers and maybe even Mike would prefer. I wouldn't want anyone telling me what to do. I am sure Sammy doesent either. Only Dave wants the reunion to save his career. Have fun UFF and the new home is quite nice.

Alright I named the thread guys after my favorite Sammy solo song. smilies/cool.gif

Plus I think it is fitting since it is a happy thread to be in if you love the Red Rocker! smilies/smile.gif

If you don't like the name... too bad. smilies/wink.gif LOL!

Anyway www.redrocker.com (http://www.redrocker.com) is up again, and no news?! smilies/confused.gif

I was hoping that Sammy said something about Eddie's cancer, of course he could have called him and we wouldn't know about it. smilies/wink.gif

[ April 29, 2001 at 01:31 AM: Message edited by: YankeeRose ]

Well there's always the UFF thread at Waboritaville if you guys wanna come over and check it out he is the link.

Waboritaville (http://pub29.ezboard.com/bsammyhagarnewsdeskboard)

Hey almost everyone is here. smilies/smile.gif

You are right Cabo, after hearing Ten 13 I think most of us will be happy if Sammy stays solo. smilies/cool.gif

I hope that he does return to VH someday though. Because if VH gets back Roth they will play little or no Van Hagar and Sammy was only playing about three VH songs on his tour. My favorite albums will always be the four that Sammy did with VH.

When is Sammy going to tour again? He hasn't toured since January. smilies/confused.gif

Hey guys Neal Schoen, the guitar player from Journey said that he would love to work with Sammy again, according to what I read on a Journey message board.

That would be awesome!!! smilies/cool.gif I love HSAS!

You know what, David Coverdale was answering questions on his message board today, and Journey members were also recently, it's too bad VH doesn't care about there fans as much as those guys. smilies/frown.gif

smilies/eek.gifAWESOME!!! David Coverdale responded to my post on his message board!!! smilies/smile.gif smilies/smile.gif smilies/smile.gif


I love Coverdale! smilies/cool.gif

Just thought I'd post here so Yankee Rose won't be talking to himself all day. smilies/biggrin.gif

What did you ask David Coverdale? Anything relating to VH? I wish VH would participate in their message board or VH Links.

LOL! Hi Dan, yeah it did kind of suck posting to myself. smilies/sleep.gif


I didn't really ask Coverdale a question, I just told him how much of a fan I was, and he thanked me, and told me that it was much appreciated. smilies/smile.gif


I did ask him on a chatline a few months ago if he would like to work with Eddie and he said YES! smilies/cool.gif

It even got on the VHND, but I didn't post my name with the question, so my name never got on it. smilies/cry.gif

[ April 29, 2001 at 04:49 PM: Message edited by: YankeeRose ]

Lolololol!!! Look what I found! smilies/biggrin.gif


http://www.megahits.com/shulars/vanhagar.jpg

Thats just..... brilliant man smilies/eek.gif

"sissy Van Roth fairies"... hmm, may just have to use that sometime smilies/biggrin.gif

Well, you know, Sammy in VH or not (still haven't closed the door on that one), at least I have a lot of Sammy's older solo material to pick up still. I just picked up I Never Said Goodbye on Saturday to prepare for the Cinco de Mayo festivities Thursday. It's the ultimate fan connection album...

You've got Sammy, which is, well, Sammy.
You've got Eddie, which connects to VH.
You've got Jesse Harns which connects to DLR.

See, brings the album home to both fan groups without having to have DLR butcher the songs smilies/wink.gif

"What kind of crap is this???" smilies/confused.gif

"I dunno..." smilies/tongue.gif

"Ya know, I really thought it was going to be different this time and it is" smilies/wink.gif

"Head bangers in leather..." smilies/eek.gif

"...sparks flying in the dead of the night!" smilies/eek.gif

"it's your one way ticket to midnite. Call it, Heavy Metal Noise!!!" smilies/eek.gif

"...can you feel the static?" smilies/confused.gif

"so many contacts being made..." smilies/wink.gif

"We've got UP FRONT FANATIC'S, tearin' down the barricade!" smilies/cool.gif

"Ain't no island, no sandy beach..." smilies/eek.gif

"no Waborita, in my reach..." smilies/eek.gif

"But I can feel it, sure as I was born..." smilies/tongue.gif

"Way down, in the Tropic of Capricorn! smilies/biggrin.gif

LOL! I guess you like the new name of the thread huh MARD? smilies/biggrin.gif

Hey Stuff, I remember you really like the new Journey CD right? I love it too!!! smilies/smile.gif


http://bush2.homestead.com/files/anim.gif

I thought this was a nice story about the meaning of the song We Will Meet Again that was posted by the new Journey singer Steve Augeri.

Check it out! smilies/cool.gif


http://www.journeymusic.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/000441.html

[ April 30, 2001 at 10:48 PM: Message edited by: YankeeRose ]

I believe that's what you call, "deep." smilies/smile.gif

Say, got a question for anyone willing to hazard an answer: Do you think maybe Sammy should collaborate with songwriting more with Jesse Harns?

Of the solo albums I have, the songs he's written or co-written (Back into You, The Message) have been excellent songs. I'm thinking Sammy should probably work with the man on one or two songs each album.

Neil Schon and Sammy Hagar working together again would be awesome. I hope that comes true someday.

Of course, it would have to come between Van Halen albums and tours once Sammy is back in the band. smilies/biggrin.gif

I think Sammy should just write songs himself Stuff, his best songs were written by himself.

I thought you would like that story on We Will Meet Again, I love that song! I think that is Journey's best album ever! smilies/cool.gif

I would love to see a HSAS II also rxman, it's going to be hard though like you said, when Sammy is back with VH again. smilies/wink.gif

Doing a little research....Jesse Harms has wrote quite a few songs with or for Sammy.

10/13 - "The Message"

RV - "Shag", "Mas Tequila", "Returning of the Wish"

MTM - "Who Has the Right?", "Would you do it for free", "Kama", "Both Sides Now"

INSG - "Back Into You"

He was also on the VOA album but not sure if he wrote any on that one.

So in my opinion, Sammy should write at least a few songs with Jesse.

Didn't Jesse Harms also work with David Lee Roth too? I think he at least toured with him once or twice. That's interesting....

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by rxman:
Didn't Jesse Harms also work with David Lee Roth too? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Jesse played on Goin' Crazy, Tobacco Road and That's Life on the Eat Em and Smile album.

Not sure if he toured with DLR or not.

I just checked out Redrocker.com (http://Redrocker.com) and it says that Jesse Harms worked with Eddie Money, Patty Smyth, Bad English, Heart, Johnny Van Zant, Michael Schenker, MSG, R.E.O. Speedwagon, and many others. He also co-produced an R.E.O. Speedwagon album. smilies/eek.gif Talk about a busy guy.

He seems like a guy that's had his thumb in most of the industry's pies, that's for sure.

Anybody know if Vic or Mona did anything before the Waboritas?

Just my opinions on Sammy's collaboration smilies/wink.gif

The Message, Mas Tequilla, Returning of the Wish, Who Has the Right?, Kama, Both Sides Now, and Back into You are all excellent songs. (Shag and Would You Do it for Free? are good, just not AS good smilies/wink.gif).

Of those you have some really deep, touching songs (RofW, WHtR?, Kama).

I'd say it's safe to say that Sammy does some excellent work with anyone, given how well he's worked with Neil Schon, Jesse Harns, and EVH/AVH/MA.

Here's some more info on the Waboritas:

Vic: In 1980, auditioned for and joined a fledgling all-African-American rock/soul band called the Busboys. The band recorded several albums for Arista Records. Then he started his own metal band, Total Eclipse. Once the Busboys broke up, Vic became a much-in-demand session player. But in the spring of '97 he joined Sammy's new band.

Mona: Worked with a variety of artists, including Gene Parsons and cult favorite Wayne Perkins, through whom she met David Lauser. Lauser told her that Sammy had been looking for a bassist. Within minutes of her audition, she landed the job.

I was looking at the liner notes to Marching to Mars, meaning, REALLY looking at them for the first time.

I noticed a couple of cool things I'm sure you all noticed - but I'm going to say them anyway!

First, it seems Sammy's son did some background singing on some of the songs. How cool must it be to work with your dad on a record?

And secondly, shortly after being fired by Van Halen, Sammy still lists Eddie, Alex, and Mike in the "Special Thanks" section.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dan Halen:
Vic: In 1980, auditioned for and joined a fledgling...rock/soul band called the Busboys...
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Is this the same Busboys that Eddie Murphy was pretty high on - had 'em on "Saturday Night Live" and also in the movie "48 Hours"? I imagine it is.

Of course he thanked VH on Marching To Mars Stuff, I noticed that when I bought the album when it first came out.

Actually Sammy said in one interview after he heard the things that VH was saying in the press about him, he regretted thanking them. smilies/biggrin.gif

[ May 03, 2001 at 01:07 PM: Message edited by: YankeeRose ]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by billy007:
Is this the same Busboys that Eddie Murphy was pretty high on - had 'em on "Saturday Night Live" and also in the movie "48 Hours"? I imagine it is.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah, it says that on Sammy's official site.

Just shows you which side of the debate had more class, doesn't it?

With tomorrow being Cinco de Mayo, let's all break out our Sammy stuff tomorrow and turn the day red. You KNOW your neighbors have just been dying to hear it again smilies/biggrin.gif

Here are some recent pictures of Sammy! smilies/smile.gif

They are from the California Music Awards. Sammy won a award. smilies/cool.gif

http://www.redrocker.com/cma_samaward2.jpg

http://www.redrocker.com/cma_sam8.jpg

http://www.redrocker.com/cma_sam3.jpg

http://www.redrocker.com/cma_sam6.jpg

Just in time for Cinco........

http://www.redrocker.com/caboad2000sm.jpg

Cool pics of Sammy. I've never seen him wearing purple shades before.

Hey guys, I was watching the Ultimate Fighting Championship on pay per view and they had a advertisement for the next UFC that showed Sammy there! smilies/smile.gif

He did the hand symbol from 0U812 at the camera too! smilies/biggrin.gif

Check this out, look how short Sammy looks compared to the Kiss guys. They must be standing on something, but I swear he is only about 5 ft 6".

Is that Sammy's wife on the left hand side of the picture? smilies/smile.gif

http://www.redrocker.com/KISSnSAMMYa.jpg

[ May 06, 2001 at 11:19 PM: Message edited by: YankeeRose ]

*laughs*

"We gonna start callin' you da SHORT rocker!"

Of course you have to remember those Kiss guys wear platform shoes smilies/biggrin.gif

Oh well, one more distorted perception of height destroyed forever.

Here's something from melodicrock.com

Incidentally - on a recent U.S. Rockline radio show with Journey, Neal Schon announced he had spoken with Sammy Hagar about getting together to do a one-off album!

That would be awesome to see...

Gene Simmons is a tall guy, isn't he? I don't know, KISS has to be standing on something.

Yeah. Anyone know what the "AS" part of HSAS is doing these days? They could do another album and name it "...Into the Frying Pan" smilies/biggrin.gif

It's a bad joke, I know - "On Through the Fire" "... Into the Frying Pan."

Hey Stuff what are your favorite songs on Journey's Arrival?

We need something to talk about... smilies/sleep.gif

We could always talk about how I get lambasted for using statistical data to construe that Sammy is just as viable a replacement for Gary as Dave is in the eyes of WB. Then again, I guess I should expect it when I try to shatter the mystique people put around the supposed reuinion that isn't happening - like Roth is going to be the savior of the world or something. I'm beginning to think that people holding out for a new VH/Roth album will have to wait past us getting "Ten14", "Ten15", and "Ten16" too smilies/wink.gif

Anyway, as for my favorite songs off of Arrival, I really enjoy Higher Place, Signs of Life, Loved by You, World Gone Wild, Live and Breathe, Nothin' Comes Close, and Kiss Me Softly. Yes, that's half the album - it's just that damn good.

Heh, personal propaganda, Yankee, but over in my song tournament thread Sammy is getting hammered in the nomination process. Only four songs of his are currently in the top 16:

03. Dreams (11)
05. Aftershock (9)
06. Humans Being (8)
07. 5150 (7)

Of course, given the sliding value scale, someone could go in there and use their votes to boost three more songs into the range. Not naming any names, of course smilies/wink.gif

Yeah, Sammy's getting killed in that thread. I still haven't seen Why Can't This Be Love get a vote yet. smilies/smile.gif

I voted for Why Can't This Be Love on the thread Dan.

I didn't vote for Humans Being Stuff, I don't like that song much. I can't go against my morals you know? LOL! smilies/wink.gif

I hear you on that one, Yankee. I don't want to say there's revisionist history going on here, but I think people are just plain assuming the only fans of 5150-Balance that exist are the handful of us on the board and the people of St. Louis.

Really, though, I think we're at a crucial time and Van Halen needs to think about that. I mentioned in the other active thread in here that a VH fan that was 14 and discovered the band through 5150 is about 29 now. Someone who was 14 when VH1 came out is 37. Obviously the main amount of nostalgia will surround Roth's days in the band - we're coming out of a "'70s Rule!" period in musical rediscovery. Of course, the time for the "'80s Rule!" period is coming soon, and I imagine we'll start hearing a lot more people that grew up on Sammy.

How's that song go again... "Don't stop... believing" smilies/biggrin.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by YankeeRose:
I voted for Why Can't This Be Love on the thread Dan.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Dude, Yankee, you, um, kind of didn't vote quite right in there smilies/biggrin.gif You're supposed to pick five songs you want to nominate and order them from what you MOST want to what you LEAST want, since there's a point value for each.

Go edit your post to fix the vote, man smilies/smile.gif

I don't know what to say about the Dave or the Grave fans (a.k.a almost everyone on this site, except us.) smilies/cool.gif

I think they are a little strange to talk about Dave being back in the band everyday, when Dave has said himself he hasn't done anything with them in almost a year! smilies/eek.gif

I also think that Sammy would definately be accepted by the majority VH fans if he chose to return to VH. smilies/smile.gif

Most of the people I talk to, like Sammy better than Dave in VH anyway! smilies/biggrin.gif

I listen to Arrival everyday! I love it! smilies/smile.gif My top three favorite songs are....

Higher Place, All The Things, We Will Meet Again.

Other songs I really like are...

Lifetime Of Dreams, I Got A Reason, Kiss Me Softly.

Bit rich talking about revisionist history stuff, given your 'I dont wanna count those 2 albums coz they sold too much' theory

Gimmie a break man lol smilies/smile.gif

I must be blind, I didn't even know that you posted in that thread. smilies/redface.gif

I changed my voting Stuff. smilies/wink.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Goo:
Bit rich talking about revisionist history stuff, given your 'I dont wanna count those 2 albums coz they sold too much' theory

Gimmie a break man lol smilies/smile.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ah, but Goo, you missed the point of it, man. I wasn't saying, "Let's pretend those two albums didn't exist," I was saying, "Let's try to predict future sales based on past sales, adjusting for reality" smilies/tongue.gif

On an aside, have you ever tried to keep a straight face when having a deep discussion with a man that calls himself "Goo" smilies/biggrin.gif

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You know, I really wish I got Viewer's Choice. I've missed a Collective Soul concert, and now a Sammy concert because of it. And with the frequency that he comes to my town, that's probably the closest I'll get to one of his solo concerts.

So whatever happened to Bill Church?

Sammy said in a interview late last year that he heard that Bill Church is in a country band. smilies/redface.gif

I just read a cool new Neal Schon interview guys, it looks like there may be a HSAS II in the near future! smilies/smile.gif


Here's what he had to say....


Another guy I know you're a bit of a friend of and I'm a big, big fan of and one day I'll get a chance to speak to is Sammy Hagar.
Yeah. Actually I just spoke to Sammy.

Oh did you really?
Yeah, and so I talked to him about...I'm going to be going over to his house in the next few weeks. I'm going to go over there and I think him and I are going to sit down and write a few songs.

Fantastic. You two guys have to make a record together.
Well I told him that, you know, the Piranha Blues release we did I said man, he goes, I'm talking to him and he's in Mexico and he said, "What's this record you stuck out Piranha Blues?", and I said, "Man, I played some of it for you" and he didn't seem to like much of it when I played if for him, it was in the rough stages, and he says, "Man, my cousin called me and he says this record just kicks ass", and I said, "Well, yeah, it does kick ass and I would've loved to have you singing on it". Richard Martin did a great job, but I would've loved to have Sammy Hagar, you know?

Yeah, cause you did the HSAS didn't you, that still sounds great today.
Yeah, I know, I love that record.

Oh God, it's so good. Did you get the re-mastered CD?
Yeah, I have the CD.

Oh it's fantastic.
We rehearsed for two weeks, wrote like 20 songs, in two weeks, rehearsed for two weeks, and then went and recorded live, and then we went back into the studio and I added a lot of overdubs on some songs, but basically all the end tracks were live, like all the lead guitar solos, and the bass and drums and vocals.
And then I just enhanced it on some tracks, I put more rhythm guitars, whatever

Yeah, he still is, he's good. I'm sorry I diverse on the subject a bit...Sammy Hagar, what are you going to write with him for, just anything?
Who knows until we get together, it's been a while since him and I sat down and tried to write anything so who knows what it's going to turn out to be, it's going to be very interesting.

Fantastic. I'd love to see you guys do a record.
I'd like to write him a really classic heavy ballad, like a heavy power ballad, something that's just classic though. You know, it's easy to write rock with Sammy, you know, it's so easy for me to write rock and roll with the guy.

Yeah. I like his softer stuff actually, so that'd be good if you could. I like it when Sammy slows down. Have you heard any of the craziness of what Van Halen are up to?
I haven't heard anything and I have no idea. I'm just like whatever man, I can't tell what's up.

http://www.melodicrock.com/nealschon2001.html

[ May 12, 2001 at 01:39 AM: Message edited by: YankeeRose ]

Wow, sounds like some really good news for a change smilies/smile.gif

Say, guys, MikeL and I had a brief convo. about trying to bring the opinions forum back to life and decided we'd put the UFF over in music only for a little bit as a test run. Let's all continue with the conversation over there for a while.

"Same great format, brand new time!"

smilies/confused.gif Okay Stuff, but I thought that this thread was the only thing that was alive in Opinions, It's going to be really dull there now.

[ May 12, 2001 at 06:33 PM: Message edited by: YankeeRose ]

Yeah, I thought this was the main thread in the Opinions forum that kept getting replies.

Yeah, I know, I know. But I'm letting MikeL give his plan a go. If the forum is still dead after a bit I'll have someone move us back over there. His theory is basically the fact that this thread is active enough to stay the top thread almost all the time keeps some of the people that have no interest in us at all from looking in there because nothing else is ever posted *shrugs*

Anyway, it doesn't hurt us at all in the long run. We know where to look for this thread.

So has Sammy gotten or do you think Sammy will get consideration for the Rock 'n Roll Hall of Fame on the merits of his solo work? I know I don't have to ask y'all if you feel he should!

I don't know. Technically I'd say he is eligible now (not sure when his first solo album was, but it had to have been at least 1976).

If he does make it in, it certainly won't be because he's had a large string of hit singles and platinum albums. It would have to be for his longevity, work ethic, and contributions to music as a whole in his other endeavors as well.

I think he should be CONSIDERED for it, but I somehow doubt he'll make it in for his solo work.

Yankee, unless you start yourself a grass-roots movement and import some rabid Sammy fans from another location, it looks like your favorite song (WCTBL) is about to go down into a hole in the voting it can never recover from smilies/frown.gif

Actually, looks like this round is tough on Sammy in general. Without revealing voting totals, let's just say things are tight.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Stuff No More:
Actually, looks like this round is tough on Sammy in general. Without revealing voting totals, let's just say things are tight.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah, my favorite song Aftershock is getting blown out by Dirty Movies after a good start. smilies/mad.gif

Yup. It's a shame. Maybe if there was a larger number of Sammy supporters on the board between now and Sunday evening some of those totals would change. But based on what I see now, the only guarantee is the winner of Dreams/5150. All the others are either blowaways or too close to call.

Perhaps a better way to do that contest might be to segrate the roth and hagar songs into seperate brackets until the end.

Even if the final vote is skewed by partisanship (which I dont think is THAT big a deal, I think most people vote on the song, not the singer) at least you'll get some feedback as to whos diggin' what by whom

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So watch this good shit!

Dig my sig,you gravy sappin' motherfuckers!!!!!!
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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Stuff No More:
Yankee, unless you start yourself a grass-roots movement and import some rabid Sammy fans from another location, it looks like your favorite song (WCTBL) is about to go down into a hole in the voting it can never recover from smilies/frown.gif

Actually, looks like this round is tough on Sammy in general. Without revealing voting totals, let's just say things are tight.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I don't care. It make me laugh though, Hear About It Later is a average song at best. I think the people that voted for that song over WCTBL are the people on this site that think pot smoking is good for you. LOL! smilies/wink.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by billy007:
So has Sammy gotten or do you think Sammy will get consideration for the Rock 'n Roll Hall of Fame on the merits of his solo work? I know I don't have to ask y'all if you feel he should!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I think he definately should and most likey he will.

I also think they should make a big sculpture of Sammy with his hands doing that OU812 thing, at the front of the hall of fame as well, kind of like the one in Rocky III LOL!

Just a thought. smilies/wink.gif

Well I guess a better question then, Yankee, is will Hear About it Later beat 5150? Will anyone vote? If a tree falls on SNM's head and no one is around, does he still have egg on his face?

DOES IT MATTER?

WHY AM I TYPING IN CAPS?

I DON'T KNOW!!!!

*takes a deep breath*

Okay, I'm better. RELAPSE. Better smilies/biggrin.gif

Actually, another point is... does a tournament really matter when you know Unchained is going to win? Wouldn't it be more interesting to hold a tournament to find out what song OTHER than Unchained would be picked?

For what it's worth, though, I did draw the names out of a hat and the placements are random. Of course, I don't think I could have planned good drama like MS vs Unchained or Dreams vs 5150. I probably would have put Unchained in a match agaisnt a monster and the Sammy stuff against "weak" songs.

Of course, my definition of weak and someone else's definition of weak are two entirely different things, knowwhatimsaying?

Out of touch most of the time
Got a lotta things on my mind

So I spend my weekends away from the message board, right? It's recharge. Too many demands during the week. My favorite Sunday activity is going back to sleep after lunch. Yes, and I'm only 21. But sleep is good, sleep is food for the soul. So is Superman, who, consequently, saved the world twice yesterday while all SNM did was clean his bedroom. Woo. Go me. But where was I, oh yes, weekends. Sometimes do you ever wonder if you spend more time associating with text and pictures on a screen than real people? Scary thing is, not having met these people here, I do associate their avatar with them in my mind. Makes it hard to accept changes, like a bad haircut you know. When I think of Yankee, I immediately see the JuJu Sammy photo. If tomorrow he had a, I don't know, VHL avatar I'd think he had plastic surgery or something.

The point... yes, there has to be a point, doesn't there?

How about...

Man, I bought Standing Hampton Saturday and it rocks!

Yes, that will do just nicely.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by YankeeRose:

I don't care. It make me laugh though, Hear About It Later is a average song at best. I think the people that voted for that song over WCTBL are the people on this site that think pot smoking is good for you. LOL! smilies/wink.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

HAIL--average song?? You gotta be fuckin' kiddin' me. I'll vote for somethin'. Worst post ever and worst sig ever--winner,YR by a landslide!!!!!!

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by YankeeRose:

I think he definately should and most likey he will.

I also think they should make a big sculpture of Sammy with his hands doing that OU812 thing, at the front of the hall of fame as well, kind of like the one in Rocky III LOL!

Just a thought. smilies/wink.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ok it can get worse. Sammy should go into the Hall w/'Trose and that's about it.

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I luv u 2 Blind Loon. smilies/wink.gif


Hey Stuff, I saw a Glass Tiger and Loverboy concert yesturday!!! smilies/cool.gif It was really good. smilies/smile.gif

Loverboy sounded heavier live, even Turn Me Loose sounded heavy, great bass and drum solo's too.

Yankee, did they play Working for the Weekend? It would be a crime for Loverboy NOT to play that song smilies/biggrin.gif

You know, something interesting I've noticed. The monster Unchained rolls on in the song tournament and will probably roll right the hell over Humans Being ( smilies/cry.gif), but it is interesting to see how well 5150 fares with even DLR fans. It makes me wonder what it is about that song that gets them behind it.

Yes Stuff they played Working For The Weekend it was the last song. smilies/cool.gif I was surprised that they didn't save it for the encore.

Glass Tiger saved Don't Forget Me When You're Gone for the encore.

It was a great show, two great Canadian bands. smilies/smile.gif

Well hey, sounds like money well spent to me smilies/smile.gif

I was half tempted to take the option of working the phone company promotion booth at the upcoming '80s hair band concert this year since I'd get free admission afterwards, but I had a scheduling conflict.

Speaking of 80's hair band concerts....

Going to see the Poison show this weekend in San Antonio. I think this is the second show of the tour and they have added a few more bands for a couple of shows.

Enuff Z Nuff
Bullet Boys
Vince Neil
Warrant
Great White
Quiet Riot
Poison

Should be an interesting show. Poison always puts on a good show. Not sure about some of the bands though. Seems like most of the bands only have one or two original members left.

Just spent some time at Sammy's website and looked at some pictures of Sammy picking up his "Spirit of Rock" award at the California Music Awards.

Who hasn't Sammy colloborated with either in a live one off setting or record? They show him doing a song with Little Feat. Sammy sure does get around doesn't he. That's got to be pretty exciting for him to work with all these people whenever he wants to.

Just off the top of my head without any of his bands.....

Meatloaf
Little Feat
Jerry Cantrell
Melissa Ethridge
Roy Rogers
Alice Cooper
John Entwistle
Jason Bonham
Damon Johnson
Roy Rogers
Slash
Bootsy Collins
Matt Sorum
Mickey Hart
Hank Williams Jr.

I'm sure their are many many more....

SNM's Physics lesson for the day:

Two forms of matter cannot occupy the same space. For example, my car and the van that changed lanes into me yesterday. The twisted mangled sheet of metal that used to be my fender will vouch for that. Time to call his insurance company and see what hoops I have to jump through to have them fix my car.

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The other night I spent some time doctoring up I Want Some Action and managed to get it to sound halfway decent. You know, it sounds a lot better when there isn't so much background hiss drowning it out.

Hey Stuff, I forgot to tell you it was a FREE concert at a park for a Canadian holiday, Victoria Day.

It definately was worth going to for nothing. smilies/wink.gif

I just bought tickets to see the G3 show in Toronto!!! smilies/cool.gif I can't wait to see Vai and Sheehan re-united! smilies/cool.gif I wonder if they will play Yankee Rose? I doubt it, but I hope they will.

That sounds like a good show rxman.

Have you ever heard You're Invited But Your Friend Can't Come by Vince Neil? That is a great song, I have a version of it that I found on Napster with the Damn Yankees & Vince together that is incredible!!! smilies/cool.gif

Yeah, well, my car's a trooper. Banged up, bruised up, dinged up... you can't beat an American car until they hit 10 years (then they fall apart).

Now you know, Yankee, not knowing how the insurance system is over there, I find myself having to deal with a company down here called Geico. FYI, that's a government run insurance company - which means I'm trying to squeeze money out of the feds! smilies/eek.gif

Now, everything will be alright if I can convice my girlfriend to have pity on me and buy my VOA on CD smilies/biggrin.gif

That's too bad that you got in a car accident Stuff.

Hey Stuff, have you heard the Journey song Remember Me from the Armageddon soundtrack?

It's the first song released by Journey with Steve Augeri.

It's great, if you are able to download it for free, do so. http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/image/emoticons/wink.gif

Is Sammy a lucky guy or what? smilies/biggrin.gif


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[ May 26, 2001 at 08:29 PM: Message edited by: YankeeRose ]

The chick in the pink is great, but the red, black, and white striped column is the interesting thing in the picture.

5150 Amps as well.

It's a bad sign when we're checking out the stage and the equipment in this picture. smilies/redface.gif

smilies/biggrin.gif smilies/biggrin.gif smilies/biggrin.gif

We're a couple of desperate fans, Glenn. Desperate fans that notice things that we probably shouldn't notice. smilies/biggrin.gif

Hey, Sammy may be old, but he knows where the shit is, man smilies/wink.gif

Actually I have seen the red, black and white stripes in several pictures of the Cabo Wabo, MikeL. I think that it has been there since the club opened, it's in the Mas Tequila video as well.

Glenn, I have no clue why he is using 5150 amps either.


Did anyone notice the big grin on Sammy's face? I did, I get that same goofy grin when i'm thinking that. smilies/biggrin.gif

I first noticed the girls when I first saw the pic, then I noticed Sammy. smilies/cool.gif

The amps aren't too surprising. I've seen a lot of guitarists using them in touring rigs.

God bless the musical landscape. In 24 hours DLR can go from potential frontman to Van Halen to washed-up solo artist again smilies/biggrin.gif

SCHADEN FREUE! (taking pleasure in other's misfortune)

Things just keep looking better and better for a future VH/SH musical collaboration.

I got a copy of a vid from sams bday bash in 96 somewhere. Ill check it out on the weekend. I distinctly remember he had the 5150 amps in it though, and I kinda remember that pole too. kinda.

The only way I could be happier is if VH announced that they were back with Sammy. 1980 so so tour staring Dave, that's great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You guys miss out on so much good stuff because of your Sammy-goggles. I really feel bad for ya. smilies/frown.gif

Nah, MikeL, I'd say often it's the other way around.

Let's see... I own and enjoy every VH album, including VH3.

I own and enjoy every DLR solo album.

I own and enjoy most of the Sammy solo albums that are still in print.

I'm seriously considering listening to some Extreme as well.

I like rock and pop from the '80s to today (minus the rap and country). My parents raised me on pop and folk rock from the '50s-'70s, and to this day I find myself enjoying a lot of that.

I like classical, swing, and big band era orchestral music.

I enjoy new age mood music and medival-styled music.

I'd say I'm not missing out on anything. As opposed to a lot of those DLR worshippers that refuse to own anything newer than 1984 and immediately knock just about anything that doesn't fit into the old school late '70s hard rock sound.

I just know Sammy is the best thing for VH past and present, and that's the road Eddie needs to explore now.

[ May 31, 2001 at 07:40 AM: Message edited by: Stuff No More ]

Sorry, Stuff. Maybe I just get the wrong idea from some very pro-Sammy fans' posts. There seems to be so much dislike of DLR, when being a fan isn't about disliking some other artist. So many just plan bad facts and misconceptions too.

I've always enjoyed Sammy. Been to see every Sammy tour since '95. I've still got the tickets from the first show of the RV tour that he cancelled because the show didn't sell. I never bothered to turn them in for a refund.

Will Sam be back in VH? He's always said he's happy where he is, and just wants to play the songs live with VH at some events in the future. He's never wanted back.

Y'all seem to take a lot of joy in the fact that so many of us are disappointed in the fizzling DLR reunion. It's glee that shows in so many posts. It just baffles me that you guys can be so happy at other people's misfortune.

There are a lot of DLR fans who seemed to get a kick out of Sammy's misfortunes. They say how great it is that Sam is not in VH. They cite his poor record sales over and over, etc...There are folks on both sides of the singer debate taking glee in the misfortunes of those on the opposite side. Sad, really.

I own every VH album, most of Sammy's solo stuff, and both Montrose albums. I have EEAS,Skyscraper, and did have a copy of DLRband before I sold it. I just don't care for DLR's lyrics for the most part, at least not anything on DLRband, however I love his work in VH and listen to it quite a bit.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MikeL:
Sorry, Stuff. Maybe I just get the wrong idea from some very pro-Sammy fans' posts. There seems to be so much dislike of DLR, when being a fan isn't about disliking some other artist. So many just plan bad facts and misconceptions too.

I don't have any dislike of Dave, he is my second favorite singer. The things I that annoy me about him though is he forgets the lyrics to songs in some concerts I have of him. Especially the US Festival. smilies/mad.gif He has too many covers solo and with VH. eg. CFTH, Diver Down. His singing isn't very good and DLR Band compared to his other albums. But I love his voice on every other album he did, and his lyrics as well. smilies/smile.gif

I have every album Dave did and a bunch of bootlegs of him solo and with VH. Solo he is in my top three bands, I always post that when there is a favorite band thread here.

Yankee Rose is my favorite song, and my second favorite band would be the Yankee Rose band, because besides Dave being in it, Steve Vai is my favorite guitar player and Billy Sheehan is my favorite bass player! I just bought tickets to see them on the G3 tour and they cost a lot of money! smilies/frown.gif


Will Sam be back in VH? He's always said he's happy where he is, and just wants to play the songs live with VH at some events in the future. He's never wanted back.

That isn't true. Sammy used to say all of the time that he didn't want to leave VH, and he wanted to be back in VH. It was only around when he started recording the Ten 13 album that I remember him saying that he was really happy solo. He also said in order for him to re-join VH, he would have to be friends with the band again. I believe the fact that Ten 13 is such a incredible album and that it had mediocre sales is good motivation for Sammy's return to Van Halen.

Y'all seem to take a lot of joy in the fact that so many of us are disappointed in the fizzling DLR reunion. It's glee that shows in so many posts. It just baffles me that you guys can be so happy at other people's misfortune.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> LOL! DAMN RIGHT I DO! smilies/biggrin.gif It comes from having to read hundreds of posts the last two years from Roth fans, that Van Hagar sucks. Sammy's lyrics suck, Sammy is fat, his ballads are cheese, Sammy can't sing anymore, VH is Dave Ed Al Mike any questions? VH ceased to exist after 84, etc, etc, etc.... smilies/mad.gif

Also, it comes from all Roth fans tell me that I didn't know what I was talking about when I posted that the Roth/VH reunion isn't a sure thing yet. smilies/mad.gif

I remember what you posted to me MikeL in Main. I said that Dave could have been kicked out of VH again months ago and we wouldn't have known it. And you MikeL, said to me that that for sure if Dave left VH we would have known about it right away! Well guess what happened? A week later Dave announced that he hadn't worked with VH for eight months! smilies/tongue.gif


I can feel the glee baby! smilies/biggrin.gif
LOL!

First of all, I had said that Dave had definately reunited with VH. As it turned out, I was right. Unfortunately, it obviously didn't work out.

Second, Sammy has always said that he didn't want to leave, but that once he did he didn't want back in. You can find that in statements going all the way back until '97.

You don't like the way some people act, so you decide to act just like them and then be proud of it? That's great, man. Just great. At least Sam has the class not to act like that.

Why is anyone saying something bad about Sam an afront to you? You're aren't Sam; you're just someone who likes his music.

[ May 31, 2001 at 06:06 PM: Message edited by: MikeL ]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by MikeL:
[QB]First of all, I had said that Dave had definately reunited with VH. As it turned out, I was right. Unfortunately, it obviously didn't work out.[/b] Yeah, so? I never said that they didn't reunite, all I said that it was possible that he was kicked out of the band, and I remember you saying that Dave would have said something if that happened right away.

You don't like the way some people act, so you decide to act just like them and then be proud of it? That's great, man. Just great. At least Sam has the class not to act like that.
You've got the wrong YankeeRose I think. smilies/tongue.gif I don't act like them.
I have never said that Sammy/VH is the only Van Halen. I never say that VH with Dave sucked. I never say that Dave solo sucks either. I always say good things about him solo, except DLR Band which I think it average. I also don't
say Sammy or the grave. And all new singer for VH would be okay with me. smilies/smile.gif
Why is anyone saying something bad about Sam an afront to you? You're aren't Sam; you're just someone who likes his music. It isn't a affront to me, But Sammy is my idol and when I met Sammy and he was really nice to me. So I figure the least I could do is stick up for him when he is bashed. smilies/smile.gif

Why are you bothering the UFF MikeL?

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MikeL:
You guys miss out on so much good stuff because of your Sammy-goggles. I really feel bad for ya. smilies/frown.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
What am I missing out on MikeL? Fill me in on all that good stuff. LOL! smilies/wink.gif

I've just picked up on the vibe that you and SNM (and a few others) seem to be putting off lately. You're happy at other people's misfortunes. If you don't want me asking why, I won't anymore.

As for what you're missing, well, the point.

Others misfortunes?! Awwww the poor sweet innocent Roth fans. smilies/cry.gif

Hey Stuff don't you feel sorry for BS2000 and FORD and all those nice happy EUAS and Mafia guys? smilies/wink.gif

Payback is a bitch, you know? Let me tell you something, something you guys probably don't pick up on but is something I'm sure Yankee and bigdog and people like strungout and vh3fan who don't come around much anymore can verify.

Over the past year, ESPECIALLY the past few months, us Sammy fans have felt like we weren't welcome or wanted around here. Kind of like Jews in the middle of a PLO pep rally, you dig? That's no knock on people like MikeL and Goo and, well, MOST of the people on this board. It's just there are some mindless Dave worshippers (FORD and BS2K to name a couple) that see fit to give Sam hell of the music he makes and us hell for the kind of music we like.

Before the EUAS Cult caved in on itself we would have semi-regular throw downs around here. Not because we started anything or threatened them (okay, so the one time someone tried to steal their 1,000th post was blatant). Just because they were making it plain and evident that our brand of Van Halen isn't really Van Halen and that we should get the hell out of here and find a pro-Sam board because our views don't float around here.

You get tired being walked all over and expected not to walk back.

Thank god most of them are stinking up the DLR Army and PD sites these days. But you know what they say - one bad apple spoils the bunch. And there are far too many hostile DLR fans that have cropped up here over the past 15 months for me to ignore them.

And so now it seems they feel lost, forsaken, and generally shat upon. I'd shed a tear, but honestly, it's frickin' great to see what goes around come around. I never pinned all my VH hopes on DLR from the beginning, and I don't see this as the death of the band. Their mainstream appeal may be gone, but when was the last time they had that? 1995? 1991?

I'm sorry if lots of people are put off by the events of the past few weeks, but I for one am glad all this DLR crap is out of the way. It'll let the band focus on moving forward with music and albums, not getting pulled into the past while pretending it's still 1984 and everybody is happy with everybody else.

So I say rock on Eddie. If you don't want to work with a pretentous has-been like DLR, don't do it. Do what you always said you wanted to do and do your own thing. Your happiness is more important than the people on this board having anything else to pick apart. I know I'll still be here when something new comes down the pipe.

Something else... You know, I'm an optimist, my man. A glori-frickin-fied optimist. I see a light at the end of the tunnel, and that's another VH album sometime in the next couple years that will blow my mind.

With Roth? No. I can say I'm happy Roth isn't in the band and still be an optimist.

I'm optimistic they'll work with Sammy again. I'm optimistic that if they can't they'll find someone they can work with and do their thing. The less people that buy the album, the easier is it for me to get tickets in the front row smilies/wink.gif

It's just you guys are asking if the glass is half full or half empty of Jack Danniels. I'm lookin' at a glass of milk and asking the same question.

So nothing is something, and Van Halen ceasing to be a band is actually a good thing?

They aren't going to continue, Stuff. It's not a matter of Sammy or Dave trying to fill their old shoes anymore. EVH is quiting this time, not one of the singers.

And as far as payback being a bitch, well, pay the right people back. For some of us this whole reunion being off is something to grieve over, while you guys are dancing on its grave.

EAUS is long gone, and in their own little world. BS2K and his like (Vince, perhaps?) are little shits that no one cares for very much.

Well, Stuff, I can understand your frustration to some extent, but let's see what you feel like in 2011 if Van Halen chooses to continue (without Sam) and they have a brief but explosive reunion with Sam in 2006 and in 2010 the rumours of Sam working with Van Halen again start up in earnest but you still get no word out of the band for a year! It's been frustrating for a lot of Dave fans for the past 16 years and to keep having a carrot of hope dangled in our face doesn't make it any better. And some people let their frustration out in ways that aren't always nice. I would count some among your ranks to have the attitude that seems to be prevailing but I never would have counted yourself as one of them.

[ June 01, 2001 at 11:51 AM: Message edited by: billy007 ]

The only thing that seems apparant in VH land at the moment is we wont be hearing any new music for a LONG time - which actually makes me quite sad, regardless of the singer..

Not at all gleeful, which, as Mikes pointed out - seems to be the prevailing mood here.

While theres ample evidence to suggest a Roth reunion isnt gonna happen any time soon - probably ever - theres still NOTHING to suggest Sams back either.

Now then. read this slowly guys...

This is NOT GOOD NEWS for VH fans.

Does this make any sense?

Are we still filled with joy?

Now can you see the source of the frustration exprssed by MikeL, and now myself?

Good day eh smilies/cool.gif

Just thought i'd use my first post to say hello to the UFF!

Ok, now i gotta go play a round of golf. Cya soon! smilies/biggrin.gif

Welcome to the forums and UFF Balance Rocked. smilies/smile.gif

Good ole Balanced is a regular at Waboritaville, and it's good to see him over here.

I can feel what Stuff is saying he hit it right on the head.

I in no way think VH is done. They will be back with a new album, it may not be as soon as we all like, but they will be back. With Sammy, don't know, with DLR, doubt it, with a fourth singer, maybe. But they will be back. smilies/wink.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Goo:
The only thing that seems apparant in VH land at the moment is we wont be hearing any new music for a LONG time - which actually makes me quite sad, regardless of the singer..

Not at all gleeful, which, as Mikes pointed out - seems to be the prevailing mood here.

While theres ample evidence to suggest a Roth reunion isnt gonna happen any time soon - probably ever - theres still NOTHING to suggest Sams back either.

Now then. read this slowly guys...

This is NOT GOOD NEWS for VH fans.

Does this make any sense?

Are we still filled with joy?

Now can you see the source of the frustration exprssed by MikeL, and now myself?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Hey, i'm not sure who you are talking to in that post. But I am not happy that Roth isn't in VH. smilies/frown.gif I was looking forward to a new VH album and tour with him!

But if you expect me to feel sorry for all the DLR fans, LOL! Get real. smilies/biggrin.gif

If it was Sammy instead of Dave that was rumoured back in VH and it didn't work out. The Roth fans would have i'm sure, had topics all over the place saying how great it was that Sammy was out of the band again.

No UFF did anything like that as far as I know. smilies/smile.gif

I believe that Van Halen will be back, either with Sammy or singer #4. smilies/cool.gif

It's great to see you posting here Balanced! smilies/smile.gif

well i thought i'd jump in here. i usually don't post in multi- page forums but what you guys said compelled me to post. first i don't take any pleasure in DAVE not being in VH
although i knew it wouldn't last. i think VH should just retire and quit playing musical frontmen. my biggest problem with DAVE is it appears that any whiff of trouble in the VH camp he comes running. when i came here it was over run with DAVE freaks and me favoring SAMMY it was fun to crack on each others singers. i hate to toot my own horn but i thought that the DAVE
fans should go start there own site and they filtered to the ARMY. i wouldn't go there if you payed me. then just
recently with DAVE doing some shows everybody was acting like the BEATLES just reunited. i feel bad for the DAVE fans because it has been so long since they made an album together. i really feel they won't make any albums with DAVE or anyone for that matter.
if SAM does come back he should try to get a multi album deal with VH so it doen't look like a desperate attempt to cash in.
i feel that the brothers really screwed SAM over. DAVE seems to do it to himself.

You know, MikeL, I don't have control over who gets payed back. I'm not EVH (but believe me, if I was... hmm, nah, not going there, I don't know what I'd do if I was him).

I just figure, screw it. This isn't the last day of Van Halen. Ed and Al and Mike are musicians, that's their life. They'll play until their hands fall off or they start sleeping in a pine box. I'm no Eddie sheep - bad music is bad music. I'm just a lot easier to please than some of the people around here are.

Honestly, given the bad blood and recent history, can you really say you expected a reunion to happen or last?

Maybe they'll never play with Sammy again. Well, I have four albums and 11 years of outstanding, A+ music from their previous collaboration, and that isn't going anywhere. It's 2001, I've lived without new VH for 3 years now. Yes I'll be upset if this was it, but there are other things to listen to out there and hundreds of boots to reminisce to.

Life is hardly over for Dave and Sammy fans.

Okay, back to talking about Sammy time. smilies/wink.gif

It was Sammy day today at my house! smilies/biggrin.gif

I listened to HSAS, I Never Said Goodbye, Marching To Mars, Red Voodoo and Ten 13 today! smilies/smile.gif

Here's how I would rank them....

1) Ten 13

2) HSAS

3) I Never Said Goodbye

4) Marching To Mars

5) Red Voodoo

i would just like to say my problem with UFF and EAUS is why don't you guys just do private messaging? it seems like an exculsive clique that only certain people are allowed to hang out at. when someone outside the circle comes you kinda ignore them. i just don't get the gang mentality. that being said SAMMY should only come back if ED and AL apologize.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by YankeeRose:
It's great to see you posting here Balanced! smilies/smile.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks YR! smilies/biggrin.gif

Just thought i'd check it out. smilies/cool.gif

[ June 04, 2001 at 09:05 PM: Message edited by: Balanced Rock ]

Thanks Dan and bigdog. smilies/biggrin.gif

Off topic, I know... But the topic doesn't really interest me. smilies/biggrin.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Stuff No More:
Payback is a bitch, you know? Let me tell you something, something you guys probably don't pick up on but is something I'm sure Yankee and bigdog and people like strungout and vh3fan who don't come around much anymore can verify.

Over the past year, ESPECIALLY the past few months, us Sammy fans have felt like we weren't welcome or wanted around here. Kind of like Jews in the middle of a PLO pep rally, you dig? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

No. Not at all. I'm of the opinion that Jews in the middle of a PLO rally might have it tougher than a group of guys who prefer Sammy Hagar to David Lee Roth at a Van Halen discussion forum. LOL.

Just because Sam takes a beating that shouldn't mean his fans should take it to heart. Duke it out, argue your points. The past few months (actually, in a few months it will be a year if you think about it) EUAS hasn't been here at VHForums.

You guys should have had the run of the place, really. But, as you said, people left. EUAS went to the army, UFF went to bigdog's site and/or others, if they exist.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR> That's no knock on people like MikeL and Goo and, well, MOST of the people on this board. It's just there are some mindless Dave worshippers (FORD and BS2K to name a couple) that see fit to give Sam hell of the music he makes and us hell for the kind of music we like. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'll give you BS, but Ford's not mindless. Leftist, no doubt. smilies/biggrin.gif But not mindless. Ford's actually given Sam more credit than most Dave fans. I don't exactly know what your specific beef is with him, so I can't speak to that.

DLR fans have a strong argument as to what constitutes "Van Halen," in their opinion. Dave was the original singer, and the music and lyrics changed a lot when he left in '85. Everything after could be seen as either Van Halen or something less. Most Dave fans see it as something less. I don't.

Although Sam-era VH is a lesser entity than Dave-era VH, for sure. smilies/wink.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR> Before the EUAS Cult caved in on itself we would have semi-regular throw downs around here. Not because we started anything or threatened them (okay, so the one time someone tried to steal their 1,000th post was blatant). Just because they were making it plain and evident that our brand of Van Halen isn't really Van Halen and that we should get the hell out of here and find a pro-Sam board because our views don't float around here. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Anyone who told me to leave, I'd just tell them to fuck off and proceed to lay waste to their stupid ass.

But that's just me.

Other than BS2K, who has told you guys to go to a pro-Sammy board? I'm not saying no one has, just that I haven't seen it.

Actually, DIF, my beef with FORD is you either agree wholeheartedly with FORD or you're

1) Wrong
2) Ignorant
3) A sheep

THAT's my beef with him.

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Topik, sorry if we ever come off as "exclusive," because we're definitely anything but that. And, no, we don't really private message, what you see here is what you get as far as UFF presence on this board. Sometimes if we "ignore" someone it's just because multiple conversations can break out on occasion - like right now - and it isn't always easy to respond to everyone at once.

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I was inspired last night to sit down with Photoshop for an hour last night and came up with what I like to call "Van Halen 2002." Of course I'll share it in here, because, well, it wouldn't be appreciated as much elsewhere smilies/wink.gif

http://server3002.freeyellow.com/estlor/vanhalen2k2.gif
(http://server3002.freeyellow.com/estlor/vanhalen2k2.gif if the above should be broken)

OK, fair enough on your dealings with FORD (I gotta remember the caps smilies/smile.gif ).

But who's told you guys to go to a pro-Sammy board? I just don't see how you guys would feel unwelcome here.

There have been more Sam fans here since the EUAS exodus to the army. You guys are the only semi-organized group at the forums.

I guess I'm just missing the "we've-been-pushed-around" argument.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Down In Flames:

But who's told you guys to go to a pro-Sammy board? only semi-organized group at the forums.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Huh? smilies/confused.gif What guys? Mard? Most of the original UFF are gone from the VH sites.

I don't know where they went smilies/confused.gif but they aren't at the SHND.

There are however new UFF from the PD, at www.shnewsdesk.com (http://www.shnewsdesk.com)
because they don't like the PD, and they are sick of the Dave or the grave people. smilies/smile.gif

Hey YR! smilies/biggrin.gif Whos runs the SHND?

Hi Balanced, bigdog runs it. smilies/smile.gif

He bought it a while ago, and he made it ten times better! smilies/biggrin.gif

It was really sad looking before he bought it.

I'm a Moderator there too. smilies/cool.gif

Well i noticed there were alot of script errors and pop-ups. Thought maybe i could help out. You must live out west eh? I didnt anyone else would be awake at my hour. smilies/biggrin.gif

No I don't live out west. I live in Ontario, Canada. I like to stay up late though. smilies/biggrin.gif

DIF, it ain't so much that people are going out and saying, "GET OUTTA OUR FORUMS!" But sometimes your mood, your choice of words, your attitude can speak more emphatically than saying something outright.

Like I said, it isn't the mods that are behind it all, and most people on the board don't rub me wrong. I wish I could name names better, but you have to trust me, DIF. Spend a month as a Hagar fan and you'll understand.

The truth that stands out is a lot of the old Sammy people from this board did leave. And I doubt MARD left just because you had a beef with him smilies/wink.gif We're an endangered species and hunting season was never called. We may be the only organized group, but the unorganized swarm still wins out from sheer numbers.

THAT SAID, it's nice to see a new face come over from the SHND. It would be cool if all those people would come over here and try to help balance (no pun intended) things a bit more here.

Cool picture Stuff, do you mind if I put it on my site?

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by YankeeRose:
Cool picture Stuff, do you mind if I put it on my site?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Dude, what site is this that you keep mentioning?

Quit your fuckin' whinning you Sammy ass-lickers. Sammy Lee Rothgar is the only way this argument can be settled. smilies/wink.gif smilies/tongue.gif

LOL! It's nothing to get excited about Glenn, when i'm bored I look for VH pictures on the Net and add them to the site. smilies/biggrin.gif

When I'm bored I look for pictures on the net too. And hey, just for appearances sake, let's say they're Van Halen pictures. smilies/tongue.gif

smilies/biggrin.gif smilies/biggrin.gif smilies/biggrin.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by YankeeRose:
No I don't live out west. I live in Ontario, Canada. I like to stay up late though. smilies/biggrin.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Doh! I have a bunch of friends that live in Beeton and Alliston. Did you happen to go to the '95 Toronto Amphitheater show?

No Balanced, I couldn't get tickets for the Toronto show in 95. I saw it on T.V. though. smilies/wink.gif

Hey does anyone like the Sammy song VOA? I think it's awesome! smilies/cool.gif


Everything you said in your post the other day was true Stuff. My old buddy Victor who you replaced as a Mod in Opinions left because the Roth fans bothered him so much that he didn't enjoy posting here anymore.

Victor was really cool too. smilies/frown.gif

It's too bad you weren't here the first few months Stuff, there were way more Hagar fans than Roth fans, I remember that I used to defend DLR sometimes when everyone used to bash him. smilies/redface.gif LOL! It's the total opposite now.

Hey Stuff,

That's a good lookin' image. smilies/cool.gif

What font did you do the text in? I'd be very interested to know so I can find that one smilies/biggrin.gif

Yankee, you can go ahead and use that image if you want to. My "art" is meant for the masses smilies/biggrin.gif

JWS, I don't remember the font's name offhand. I believe it's one that came with Word Perfect though. I use it because it reminds me of FUCK's font. Tell you what I can do though. I'll be out of town this weekend, but send me an email sometime between now and Monday to remind me and I'll send you the font Monday night when I get on my home PC again.

Very cool - it looks just like FUCK's font, actually. smilies/biggrin.gif

I'll drop you an email soon. smilies/cool.gif

Thanks Stuff smilies/smile.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by YankeeRose:
Hey does anyone like the Sammy song VOA? I think it's awesome! smilies/cool.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I do, it's my favorite song on VOA behind I Can't Drive 55.

Cool Dan, I agree that song rocks! smilies/cool.gif

I read that it was about the Russians refusing to participate in the 1984 Olympics.

Have you guys heard about Sammy's new tour dates? From VHND (http://www.vhnd.com/http://www.vhnd.com/articles/010608-01.shtml),

Aug 31 - Kelseyville, CA (Konocti Harbor Resort)
Sep 1 - Las Vegas, NV (Sunset Station Casino)

Sounds cool!

Cool. Might have to check out the Sammy show in Las Vegas.

Now if he would only come back to Phoenix and play for free like he promised.....

Check this out! Sammy's wedding picture! smilies/smile.gif

[ July 09, 2001 at 09:09 PM: Message edited by: YankeeRose ]

Aaaahhhhhh........back when things were good in Van Halen land. Everyone still liked each other. Great pic Yankee.

Well... I hate this neverending vocalist debate.

I like both Dave and Sam, regardless whatcha all think.

Let's see it this way:

Van Hagar was a musically pretty different era from Van Roth, tho both eras were released under the name Van Halen.

Van Roth was high energy, and that's cool stuff.

Van Hagar was maybe more versatile, melodic, and that's fine with me as well.

I also pretty much enjoy Sammy's solo stuff as well as Dave's. It's just a shame all this material is hardly any available over here. smilies/mad.gif

That's all folks.

Good post Atomic! I figured you liked both era's from your favorite albums and songs at the side of your posts.

I love OU812 too! Feels So Good is a great song! smilies/smile.gif

I'm with Atomic Punk. I like all the eras of Van Halen, Sammy solo, and Dave solo. It's just hard to decide which is my favorite because they're all so good. smilies/smile.gif

Atomic Punk DLR summarizes my thoughts quite nicely. smilies/smile.gif

Looks like Sammy's playing a couple of shows "close to home," so to speak. Probably wants to play a few for kicks while keeping his schedule open smilies/wink.gif

Hey guys you may want to check this out.

http://pub29.ezboard.com/fsammyhagarnewsdeskboardfrm1.showMessage?topicID=1 25.topic

Sounds good bigdog. smilies/wink.gif


Stuff Did you get VOA yet? It's a good album, the song VOA and Swept Away are cool. smilies/cool.gif

Nope, not yet Yankee. Still need to nail down VOA and Three Lock Box to have all his Geffen work.

A couple of random bits:

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I was out of town this past weekend for a wedding, and Friday night the group I was with went to Pizza Hut for dinner. We were in there for a couple of hours, and while we were there I heard three Van Halen songs. I'm sure you're dying to know which - Right Now, Why Can't This Be Love, and Dreams smilies/smile.gif

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Last night while looking around at www.redrocker.com (http://www.redrocker.com) I cam across a bit of serendipitous information. Unboxed doesn't credit anyone for playing on the two new songs. I've managed to nail down that David Lauser (sp?) was the drummer on those two new tracks.

So, if we assume Sammy sang and did the guitar work, that means we only need to figure out who did the bass.

Cool Stuff, I heard those exact songs on my 5 changer CD player on random mode the other day! smilies/eek.gif

Maybe it's a sign, Van Hagar is returning! smilies/wink.gif

I taped a show on Collective Soul last week, they showed all of their videos! Too bad you don't get Much More Music huh Stuff? smilies/wink.gif

Make sure to vote for Sammy here guys, http://www.eddietrunk.com/
he's losing to Paul Stanley! smilies/cry.gif

Yeah man. My cable company just added Much USA, but it's only available on the digital package smilies/frown.gif

Speaking of Three Lock Box, I think it's a pretty good album. The title track, Your Love Is Driving Me Crazy, and I Don't Need Love are my favorites. There are a lot of keyboard tunes but they're still good. I could live without I Wouldn't Change A Thing and Never Give Up but it's a solid album overall.

Pretty good is the word Dan, I agree with your choices of best songs.

I like VOA much more, do you like the song Swept Away Dan?

Yeah, VOA is one of my favorites. I think Swept Away is an awesome song. smilies/cool.gif I included it on a Sammy greatest hits CD I made.

Cool Dan! smilies/smile.gif I'm glad i'm not the only one that likes Swept Away. smilies/wink.gif

The SHND is down for me, is it working for anyone?

It's working for me right now.

That's odd, I still can't get on it. smilies/confused.gif

Let me ask an honest question. Obviously the next Sammy stuff I get will be the rest of his Geffen work, but I'm kind of leerly about his Capitol work. Do you think picking up the "Best of Sammy Hagar" would be a good investment considering that I like his Montrose, Geffen, Van Halen, and post-VH work?

SNM, are you referring to the album with this track list?

1. Red
2. Plain Jane
3. I've Done Everything for You
4. Rock 'N' Roll Weekend
5. This Planet's on Fire
6. You Make Me Crazy
7. Trans Am
8. (Sittin' On The) Dock Of The Bay
9. Cruisin' & Boozin''
10. Bad Motor Scooter

It's mostly his older solo stuff, but it still rocks because it's Sammy. smilies/cool.gif Go for it if you want to, there are a lot of good songs on it.

Well, I do still have a few freebies coming from BMG here. I could always just use one of them and if I don't like it, I'm not out much smilies/wink.gif

His GH from Capitol is pretty good. You won't dislike it.

I don't have that album either but I have most of the songs from it, This Planet's On Fire rocks! smilies/cool.gif

I think you will like it Stuff, but don't expect it to be as good as Unboxed. smilies/wink.gif

Hey, has anyone seen that other GH? I hesitate to call it a reissue, but it has a closeup of young Sammy's face on the front and has almost the identical tracklist, just some live versions of a few songs.

*digs around*

Here's the cover:
http://images.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/dre000/e050/e05060eyikd.jpg

And here's the tracklist:
1. Red [live]
2. Plain Jane
3. I've Done Everything for You
4. Rock & Roll Weekend
5. This Planet's on Fire (Burn in Hell)
6. You Make Me Crazy
7. Trans Am (Highway Wonderland)
8. (Sittin' on) The Dock of the Bay
9. Cruisin' and Boozin'
10. Bad Motor Scooter [live]

What's the deal with that one?

The one I've got is called The Best of Sammy Hagar. It came out in '92, and only has work from his Capitol albums.

The tracklist is the same as what SNM listed, with a few exceptions. Red isn't live, and there are for more songs: Turn Up The Music, Reckless, Love or Money, and Bad Reputation.

No Stuff, I have never seen that album before! Did you see it in a store?

If you join
www.farmclub.com (http://www.farmclub.com)
for free you will find some cool videos there! smilies/smile.gif Most of the videos there suck, but there is some good stuff! smilies/wink.gif

Bands that I found videos there that I like are...

Whitesnake, Coverdale/Page, Tesla, Jimmy Page, Asia, Night Ranger, Sammy Hagar, Guns N' Roses, Jimmy Page, Asia, Aerosmith, Bon Jovi.

I really like the Take Me For A Little While video from Coverdale/Page, it has some really cool effects on it. smilies/cool.gif

Yankee, the Sammy GH album SNM put up is pretty common around my neck of the woods...It's old(notice nothing off of VOA from 1985) and perhaps was never released in your part of the world... smilies/wink.gif

If it matters to you, I can grab a copy on payday and mail it over to you...email me if you care one way or the other... smilies/smile.gif

I e-mailed you Sacto. smilies/wink.gif

I saw that album at Media Play. It's something like "EMI/Capitol" and listed as for "Special Markets."

It's not the normal hits, that's the one without the live tracks and a few extra songs.

Cool Stuff, I found Red live and Bad Motor Scooter live on Napster. smilies/biggrin.gif

I never liked the song Red. smilies/redface.gif Do you like it Stuff?

[ June 19, 2001 at 08:09 PM: Message edited by: YankeeRose ]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by YankeeRose:
I never liked the song Red. smilies/redface.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Whoa! smilies/eek.gif Red has got to be one of my top five favorite Sammy songs. The live version kicks ass also.

Well Dan...I like the music to it. But the lyrics to it are lame IMO. Red Red I want Red, there's no substitute for Red. smilies/redface.gif

Look at these Mine All Mine lyrics and then compare them to the lyrics to Red.

Mine All Mine

Forgive me father, for I have sinned
I've been through hell and back again
I shook hands with the devil
Looked 'im in the eye
Looked like a long lost friend

anything you want, any dirty deeds
He's got everything 'cept what I really need
Keepin' me temporarily satisfied
But not one thing I've tried
Filled me up inside or felt like mine
Mine all mine

Yeah, the search goes on
The more I look, my world keeps gettin' smaller
Staring at the sun, searchin' for the light
Almost ended up blind

Some only see what they wanna see
Claiming victory, oh but that's not me
Gimme truth, gimme somethin' real
I just wanna feel like it's mine all mine

Mine all mine

All the words on the wall look the same in the mirror
Every riddle and every clue
Ow, you've got Allah in the east
You've got Jesus in the west
Christ, what's a man to do?

They'll find a cure for anything
Just kill the pain or numb my brain
We see a man speakin' the word of God
Provin' to be a fraud. his own church applauds
Stop lookin' out, start lookin' in
Be your own best friend
Stand up and say "Hey! This is mine!"

RED


I've read it all, it's black and white
The spectrum made a shade I like.
The crimson rays are ruby bright
Technicolor light.
Red! I want red, there's no substitute for red.
Red! Paint it red, green ain't mean compared to red.
You don't know what it does to me,
My crimson intensity
I'm haunted by the mystery,
The mystey of red.
Red knocks 'em dead,
Some like it hot, I like it read.
Red is my lover, got it covered
Red is my number, sure as a coma
Red is my drummer, and I hear red thunder
Move over brother,
Red's a motherfu...(cker)
(Red! Red!)
Thats' what I said...
(Red! Red!)
Come on to bed
(Red! Red!)
Gimme' that expensive spread..

The lyrics to Red don't have a point to them besides that it's a cool colour. smilies/redface.gif LOL!

The lyrics to Mine All Mine are about being yourself, saying no to drugs, being your own best friend etc. smilies/cool.gif

How do you get all that out of Mine All Mine, Yankee? It's just about organized religion.

Red is a typical Sammy tune from his early days. Very simple.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MikeL:
How do you get all that out of Mine All Mine, Yankee? It's just about organized religion.

Red is a typical Sammy tune from his early days. Very simple.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Well MikeL, the saying no to drugs lines are...

anything you want, any dirty deeds
He's got everything 'cept what I really need
Keepin' me temporarily satisfied
But not one thing I've tried
Filled me up inside or felt like mine
Mine all mine

What I believe Sammy is talking about is a dealer when he says keepin' me temporary satisfied.

Stop lookin' out, start lookin' in
Be your own best friend

I believe Sammy is saying be yourself with those lines.

Plus Sammy says that is what the song is about in the Toronto Balance show. LOL! smilies/wink.gif

Also I listened to the song over a thousand times so I have had time to analyze it. But you are right it is about religion as well. smilies/smile.gif

I just looked up Mine All Mine in the VH Encyclopedia.
It says that it is an anti drug song. It is about fufilling your future without letting drugs getting in the way!

I was right about it being about saying no to drugs!

Sammy is such a great songwriter!!! smilies/cool.gif

I s'ppose Red is okay as a song. It's kind of just out there. Not too deep, but then again not all the songs need to be real deep, you know?

As for Mine All Mine, I always thought it was telling you to be self-sufficient and not expect some higher power to solve all your problems. Of course I'm not Sammy, and who am I to say what the song is about smilies/smile.gif

Mine all Mine? Ahhh sweet memories.

Lights dim, the roar of the crowd then the jumbo tron comes on. The band kicks in as some dude shoots the tube on his plank. Sammy say's "Lets get on back to O-U-8-1-2!"

Ahh sweet memories. smilies/smile.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by YankeeRose:
Well Dan...I like the music to it. But the lyrics to it are lame IMO. Red Red I want Red, there's no substitute for Red. smilies/redface.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Unfortunately you can say that about most of Sammy's songs. smilies/frown.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by YankeeRose:


anything you want, any dirty deeds
He's got everything 'cept what I really need
Keepin' me temporarily satisfied
But not one thing I've tried
Filled me up inside or felt like mine
Mine all mine

What I believe Sammy is talking about is a dealer when he says keepin' me temporary satisfied. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

To me that's obviously talking about the different flavors of religion that are spoon fed to people.
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>

Stop lookin' out, start lookin' in
Be your own best friend

I believe Sammy is saying be yourself with those lines.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Stop looking outside of the self for answers that come from within it. IE, don't use someone else's beliefs to answer your questions.

Sammy says a lot of shit in concert about all sorts of things. Not many of them are relevant to the song he's about to sing... smilies/smile.gif

As for the VHE, what gives them any credibility as to the meaning of a song?

You can have this song be about whatever you like it to be. It seems very plain to me that Sammy is using the language in ways he rarely does--skillfuly to describe organized religion. Drugs? Nope. That's a no-go for this tune. Hell, Sammy probably wrote it while high.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dan Halen:


Unfortunately you can say that about most of Sammy's songs. smilies/frown.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Dan are you feeling sick?! smilies/eek.gif I don't agree with that.

I don't like the lyrics to Red, Humans Being and Source Of Infection but that's it!

I love 90% of the songs that Sammy writes! smilies/smile.gif

YR, I meant that a lot of Sammy's songs have don't have very good lyrics but I like the songs anyway.

[ June 20, 2001 at 04:57 PM: Message edited by: Dan Halen ]

I know what you meant Dan. What songs do you think have bad lyrics? smilies/confused.gif

[ June 20, 2001 at 04:59 PM: Message edited by: YankeeRose ]

Bad Motor Scooter (Not bad, just cheesy)
Red
Ten 13 ("Happy Birthday to you")
Spanked
Amsterdam ("Wham bam! Oh Amsterdam")

How about Reckless? Sam is really trying to sound like a tough guy on that one.

Cool Dan, when you said a lot of songs, I was worried you were going to name about fifty not five. smilies/biggrin.gif

I don't mind the Bad Motor Scooter and Amsterdam lyrics. Sammy said in a interview last year that Bad Motor was the first song that he wrote! smilies/cool.gif

I asked people from Amsterdam that are VH fans if they thought they lyrics in the song were insulting to their country. And they said no, much of what Sammy says in the song is probably true.

[ June 20, 2001 at 06:51 PM: Message edited by: YankeeRose ]

Heh, you should read the lyrics to the first song I wrote smilies/smile.gif

Of course, thankfully, the song was never put to music and the lyrics are now sitting in the dump somewhere.

Yeah I know Stuff, that is one hell of a song that he wrote his first time writing. smilies/cool.gif


Check this out, Sammy's high school picture! smilies/smile.gif

http://content.communities.msn.ca/_Secure/0PwAAAEkXTfHOzhSw7sDPvPJSOjkKjt*cAWo0!WMt7MwJozPEW U0emJZO8cCZtgN!WHOGoyhsUUiOyhIdSCRFd!ABkql9s2MX/sammyschoolpic.jpg

How did he get his hair so straight? smilies/confused.gif

Cool pic Yankee. smilies/cool.gif Do you know if Sammy went to college? Or did he immediately get involved in Montrose?

I've never heard anything about Sammy going to College Dan.

I know that Sammy's dream for years was to be a pro Boxer like his Dad was, but his Mom was strongly against him becoming one, he did do some amateur boxing as a teenager though. I've seen the inside of Sammy's house on a show, and he has a heavy bag in a room with a T.V. in it.

I think he hits the bag while watching fights, kind of like what Rocky did in Rocky IV.LOL! smilies/cool.gif That is so cool! smilies/smile.gif

If I could sing and write songs like Sammy does, I probably wouldn't go to College either! smilies/biggrin.gif

Man, he looks like mur-fugging Ricky Nelson in that picture. "I'm a travelin' man, travel where I can, all over the world..." smilies/biggrin.gif

Er, well, I guess that's better than looking like the twins from the band Nelson smilies/wink.gif

**Laughing hysterically at Sammy "the greaser" Hagar's yearbook pic!! smilies/biggrin.gif smilies/tongue.gif **

While we're talking about Sammy's early days, what are your favorite Montrose songs? I like every song on the debut album but Space Station #5, Rock Candy, and Make It Last seem to stick out the most. Their follow-up album, Paper Money, isn't quite as good but I like the title track, The Dreamer, and I Got The Fire.

http://www.redrocker.com/montrose_group.jpg

My top three favorite Montrose songs are...

1) Space Station #5

2) Bad Motor Scooter

3) Rock The Nation

And let's not forget "Make It Last",or as it's otherwise known "Cabo Wabo (part 1)". smilies/biggrin.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FORD:
**Laughing hysterically at Sammy "the greaser" Hagar's yearbook pic!! smilies/biggrin.gif smilies/tongue.gif **<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Let's see your picture.
smilies/biggrin.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FORD:
**Laughing hysterically at Sammy "the greaser" Hagar's yearbook pic!! smilies/biggrin.gif smilies/tongue.gif **<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Yeah where's your picture? I'll bet we would get an even better laugh! smilies/tongue.gif


I wonder where you got this picture from huh?
http://www.dlrarmy.com/forums/showthread.php?s=d81fd8c7350f18ed6a95ea557ba04f09&threadid=10900

Look out UFF, because anything you post may be stolen by Fan Of Ray Daniels!!

I don't post pictures from my site here so that they can be stolen by Dave or the Grave thiefs!!! smilies/mad.gif smilies/mad.gif smilies/mad.gif

Maybe some loyal UFF's will enjoy this link: http://www.boomstick.com/atemyballs/index.html Kind of sick, but funny. smilies/biggrin.gif

Am I the only one who likes This Planets on Fire(Burn in Hell)? I really like this song.

I like This Planet's On Fire too. smilies/cool.gif I like the harder-rocking Sammy songs (like this one) more than the ballads.

Montrose top three I'd have to say

Bad Motor Scooter
Space Station #5
Rock Candy

But hey, that was obvious, wasn't it?

As for FORD, remember, like all closet monsters, if you ignore him, he goes away. Buh bye, FORD, go pee in the pool of Cherone's site, since you seem so interested in a singer you profess to dislike.

Now you UFF's should know this by now... I don't hate Sammy, just his cheese ballads. Dan just said pretty much the same thing, so does that mean you're gonna boot him out of the club? smilies/wink.gif

As for the yearbook pic,come on you gotta admit that's a goofy pic. Say it, Sammy won't disown you. And as for me starting a thread with it over at the Army, well if you actually read the thread, or just about any other threads over there,you will see there is far more FORD bashing than Hagar bashing as of late (courtesy of a bunch of exiled Pasture Dumpers using fake names).

And yes I've seen the stupid "Ate My Balls" pages. All of em smilies/sleep.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dan Halen:

http://www.redrocker.com/montrose_group.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Kewl picture!

I don't know FORD, i've been reading your posts at the Links lately and you seem to hate his music, like when you said "if you put 5150 and 0U812 together and get rid of all the ballads and filler it you would have a decent album." smilies/sleep.gif

What also annoyed me is the PD refugees at the VHRocks site took that Sammy pic from the Army and are saying thank FORD for finding the picture smilies/rolleyes.gif when you found it here.

But anyway, I like This Planets On Fire, that song rocks! Cool guitar playing in it. smilies/cool.gif

[QUOTE]Originally posted by YankeeRose:
I don't know FORD, i've been reading your posts at the Links lately and you seem to hate his music, like when you said "if you put 5150 and 0U812 together and get rid of all the ballads and filler it you would have a decent album."

Exactly. If I hated Sammy, I would have said "Take All the Van Hagar albums off the racks and leave them out of print". Obviously if I'm suggesting an album that contains the best of 5150 and OU812, it means I would buy such a CD.

What also annoyed me is the PD refugees at the VHRocks site took that Sammy pic from the Army and are saying thank FORD for finding the picture smilies/rolleyes.gif when you found it here.

What do you expect from those sheep?? smilies/wink.gif I was at that site long enough to make sure my usernames weren't stolen by anyone else, and I haven't been back since. I really don't care for the way IKONboards are laid out anyway.

But anyway, I like This Planets On Fire, that song rocks! Cool guitar playing in it. smilies/cool.gif

Yeah that's a great song. That's what makes Van Hagar even more of a disappointment. We know Sammy was capable of rocking and obviously Eddie was. So where did all the damn cheese come from??? smilies/eek.gif

Go on home to the army FORD. We all know how you really feel. smilies/rolleyes.gif

Hi Balanced! smilies/wink.gif

I don't care if FORD posts here, as long as he has something positive to say about Sammy.

Thanks for giving me credit at the vhrocks site for finding the Sammy High School picture FORD. smilies/cool.gif


Anyway, do you all have a DVD player? I don't and I was wondering if I am the only one who doesn't. smilies/redface.gif

[ June 26, 2001 at 11:53 PM: Message edited by: YankeeRose ]

I have a DVD player that came with my Playstation 2. I've only tried it once but I should be able to see the Sammy DVD. Does anyone know when it will be released?

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by YankeeRose:
[QB]Anyway, do you all have a DVD player? I don't and I was wondering if I am the only one who doesn't. smilies/redface.gif
QB]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, yeah... I have one, and it's code-free, so I can play all the shit I want on it. It even plays VCD's, SVCD's and MP3 CD's. smilies/biggrin.gif

Well, no one is denying that's a goofy picture, but you wait 40 years and I bet people will think our pictures from high school were goofy too smilies/wink.gif

Dan,

According to the Sammy Hagar News Desk the DVD will be out August 7. smilies/cool.gif

So you have a DVD player Stuff? How much better is the picture and sound? Is it really worth getting?

I have never tried a DVD before, none of my friends have one.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by YankeeRose:
So you have a DVD player Stuff? How much better is the picture and sound? Is it really worth getting?

I have never tried a DVD before, none of my friends have one.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, I'm not Stuff... but still I think DVD's great. smilies/biggrin.gif

Better picture, better sound, more comfortable and nice extra features.

Need any more details?! smilies/tongue.gif

Cool Atomic, do you have any concerts? Can you switch the camera angle and watch a cretain member in the band on some of them?
I heard that.

How many scenes can you jump to usually, can you record DVD to VHS on it?

I never liked tape so the DVD was a natural for me, just as the CD was years before. Don't have any concerts yet - hoping the U2 ones get put on DVD - do have "Rattle And Hum". None of my DVDs so far allow different camera angles, but they're cool anyway. "Yellow Submarine" has a feature that just allows you to play the music in the film. I use my "Best Of Volume 1" as an alternate to the CD as it has some different songs on it that I like ("Finish What Ya Started" and "Runaround" and shhhh..."Not Enough").

Oh, and depending on how you connect it, you can record onto a VHS - there have been a couple of DVDs that we rented that needed to go back but we hadn't finished so I popped 'em in and recorded the rest onto VHS. I don't have it setup right to do that now, however, as I have it going straight into the TV instead of the VCR first. And another great thing is the scene selection - a 2 hour film might be broken up into 24 scenes, so if you get interupted or tired, you can go right back to the scene where you were. Only drawback is you can't program a scene like you can program a track on a CD (at least on my DVD player) so if I just want to play "Where The Streets Have No Name" I have to be prepared to stop it when it goes to the next scene.

Thanks for the info Billy. smilies/smile.gif

The first time I tried a DVD I saw the Bond movie "From Russia With Love." I thought it was cool to hear it in Spanish and that you can pick which scene you wanted to go to. There were also old trailers of the movie. smilies/cool.gif

I have the following live shows on DVD:

Van Halen Live: Right Here, Right Now

Queen We Will Rock You

Led Zeppelin The Song Remains The Same

Neither of those have multiple camera angles, unfortunately. smilies/frown.gif
But at least the Queen one has Dolby Digital 5.1 sound. Very useful if you call a Dolby Digital/dts receiver your own, like I do. smilies/biggrin.gif

I also have the following music DVD's:

Van Halen Video Hits, Volume I

Freddie Mercury The Video Collection

Freddie Mercury The Untold Story


As far as for copying DVD's on video tape:

Usually DVD's have the same copy protection as VHS tapes, called "Macrovision". But, as for any protection, there's certain ways to get around it.

For example, I can turn off "Macrovision" in my DVD player's menu (nice side-effect of the fact that I changed some bits of the DVD player to get it code-free smilies/wink.gif ).

But, there are also decoders for "Macrovision", to put in between the DVD player and the VCR, or a VCR and a 2nd VCR, to get around the protection. I used to call such a decoder my own before I bought a DVD player.

So, if ya have any more questions, feel free to ask me. smilies/smile.gif

I bought a dvd in march. Great investment!

Wehter you can do the multiple angle thing depends on wehter thats put on the disc - I cant say I've seen one yet though smilies/frown.gif Probably something you may see more of in the future as concerts are recorded with DVD release in mind, as opposed to VHS

A perfect time to dig into the old LWAN footage and put together the complete package.

That's an awesome collection, Atomic Punk! smilies/cool.gif

DVD is great if you can get a good deal on the player. I only have Video Hits on DVD (as far as music is concerned), but the movies and anime I have are, for the most part, crystal clear. And I don't even have a super-video jack on the back of my TV set.

Cool guys thanks for the info! smilies/smile.gif

I heard some guys talking about Tranformers The Movie being released on DVD the other day LOL! smilies/wink.gif I have it on VHS. smilies/cool.gif

You like that movie don't you Stuff? I remember you saying that you like Dare by Stan Bush, I think that song is cool too! smilies/cool.gif

Well, considering the DVD is sitting on my shelf and I bought the damn thing the day it came out smilies/smile.gif

I'm just waiting for them to release more episodes of the show in that format.

Say, speaking of DVD, here's a legitimate question. Supposing they force us all to buy DVD audio players and VH or Sammy (or Dave for you lurkers that don't want to confess to reading our chat) albums are put out on that format, is there a chance in hell that you'd buy any of them?

Honestly, since the new players would play CDs too, it would take something major to get my to buy another copy of the albums, like remastering 5150 and OU812 or adding songs that were left off on to the re-release.

Hey Stuff, they have episodes of the show here on DVD. http://www.rhino.com/features/970050p.html

Yaaaaaay! I have #3000 posts!!! What a great day in my life! smilies/wink.gif


Anyway Stuff, I won't buy the DVD releases of albums either. The movies are too expensive also, I was looking at some today they average around $30.00 smilies/cry.gif

[ June 30, 2001 at 08:49 PM: Message edited by: YankeeRose ]

Yeah, some movies aren't cheap. You have to know the sales to shop at.

Of course, I also question some of the choices for what to put out on DVD Audio while it is in the development stages. None of the CDs in that section of my local Media Play really make me want to go out and spend thousands of dollars on a player, you know?

Say, Yankee (or Dan if he's lurking around here), have you listened to the mp3 of Runnin' with the Devil from Dave's solo tour? I'm curious what your opinion of his voice is just to see if maybe I'm being too hard in my opinion on him.

Congrats on 3000 Yankee. smilies/cool.gif

SNM, I've heard a few MP3's from Dave's tour but not RWTD. It seems like I can't really hear Dave's voice very well because the crowd is singing along with every word. smilies/rolleyes.gif I'll check it out anyway, though. smilies/smile.gif

Stuff, I haven't heard the Runnin' With The Devil MP3 because the audio in my computer is down. smilies/frown.gif It can't find my soundcard, even though it's there! smilies/eek.gif

I am taking my computer in to get it fixed this week.

I bought all of the Superman movies today! LOL! Anyone else like Superman? smilies/biggrin.gif Everytime I buy a VHS movie now I feel strange because I can see them becoming obselete in a few years because of DVD. smilies/cry.gif Does anyone else think this might happen?

Hey Dan, you like Brutal Planet huh? I love it too, I just bought Alice Cooper Brutally Live on VHS! It's awesome!!!! smilies/cool.gif

[ July 02, 2001 at 11:04 PM: Message edited by: YankeeRose ]

Any of the UFF going to the Chicago show on September 7? I will be there, and am hoping to meet as many people from here and Waboritaville as I can. Let me know all.

I'll most likely be there smilies/biggrin.gif When do tickets go on sale?

Does anyone else think that VH and Sammy might be discussing a reunion right now? I doubt that Roth is coming back.

[ July 09, 2001 at 09:07 PM: Message edited by: YankeeRose ]

I think it's pretty unlikely that Sammy and VH are thinking about a reunion. smilies/frown.gif Like I've said in other threads, Sammy seems happy with what he's doing now. He now has more freedom and control over his music. smilies/cool.gif

Ah! You're too cynical Dan. smilies/tongue.gif Tell me then, who do you think is the next singer for VH? You still think it's Roth?

I don't know, Yankee. Maybe DLR's tour is a warm-up for the reunion. If not, then I can't think of anyone else that could rescue VH. Except for Sammy of course. smilies/smile.gif