List a record in sports you see as legitimately unbreakable..any sport.
maybe provide some background or insight as well.
i have one that is absolutely unbreakable, but i want to see if anyone else lists it first!!

List a record in sports you see as legitimately unbreakable..any sport.
maybe provide some background or insight as well.
i have one that is absolutely unbreakable, but i want to see if anyone else lists it first!!

Joe D's 56-game hitting streak. no ones ever come closer than 44. its an absolutely ridiculous record. won't be broken.

55% of soccer games end in ties. I don't know of any other sport that will ever break that.

Nah, I think that's doable - get someone with a little speed who makes consistent good contact, willing to bunt to fill in those days when they don't get a "legitimate" hit - could be done.
Now, Cy Young's 511 wins (and even Walter Johnson's second place 417) are out of reach!

Jesus, where do you start with Gretzky..Carreeer points, assists, goals, 50 in 39, assists in a season/ goals in a season/ total points in a season..

Bruce Smith 200 sacks. Granted there were definitely players, The Deacon comes to mind, before Bruce and reggie White that made more plays and probably had more sacks. Unfortunately, stats for sacks weren't officially kept by the NFL until 1982.

There was some research done to try to prove that Deacon Jones was the all-time leader. Sack Story (http://archive.profootballweekly.com/content/archives/features_1999/turney_062600.asp</p><p%20style=). They came up with 173 1/2.

The closest active player right now is Michael Strahan (NY Giants) with 118. He's been playing for 10 years already. I don't know if he can do it. Bruce played 19 seasons. Not too many guys can last that long in the NFL these days.

I think Richard Petty's 200 NASCAR Grand National/Winston Cup wins is pretty much out of reach, too.

Joe D's 56-game hitting streak. no ones ever come closer than 44. its an absolutely ridiculous record. won't be broken.

I agree with this and Richard Petty's 200 wins.

I think Richard Petty's 200 NASCAR Grand National/Winston Cup wins is pretty much out of reach, too.

There is no way nobody will be able to break that. Even just getting to 50 wins is hard enough in a career

wow, all good ones!!

the only completely unbreakable record i know of, and this is a stone-cold lock, is Nolan ryan's...he has 8 career no-hitters..8!!
never, ever, ever will even be threatened....
all the other's the 56 game streak..hey, catch lightning in a bottle...but 8 no-hitters? never....

gretzky..always figured his to be unbreakable..especially w/o any hockey!!

Petty? probably unbreakable,, but im not positive

Good topic.

My #1 choice would be Cy Young's 511 wins. I believe this would be impossible to break given modern pitching usage.

Billy Hamilton's record of scoring 192 runs in a season would be hard to beat.

Hack Wilson's 191 RBI looks secure.

Chief Wilson's 36 triples in 1912 hasn't been even remotely approached in 70 years.

Wilt Chamberlain averaged 27.2 rebounds per game in 1961. He also averaged
50.4 points per game in 1962. No one's coming close to those any time soon.

Those are just a few from basketball and baseball. My personal belief is
that Cy Young's mark is the only truly "untouchable" one of these.

do u see nolan ryan's 8 no-hitters being touched?

In today's hockey, I don't think you'll ever see anybody score 92 goals ever again. That record IMO is unbreakable with today's rules and clutching and grabbing.

Joe D's 55 game hitting streak will never be touched either.

No way that Nolans no-hitters will be touched, nor will Cy Youngs 511 wins....I seriously doubt that 300 wins will be reached...the way the pitching strategy has changed, set-up guys and closers screw it all up to break those records...I respect guys like Cory Lidle that can go out there and pitch complete games and get a few CG shutouts....hey Sucka: I plugging the Phillies here man!;)

It's a bit of a freak record, but it's doable. Technically any pitcher that wins 8 games has the potential for all 8 to be nohitters - not likely of course, but it's possible. But with the way the game is played today, 511 wins by any pitcher is unachievable. That's 25.5 years of winning 20 games, or only 20.44 of winning 25. Find someone that can win 30 games in a year, they'd have to do it 17.03 times! To turn that around, even if you could find someone that could be an effective starter for 30 years, they'd have to average 17.03 wins a year.

Roger Clemens, who has the best winning pct. out of the top-five active pitchers with the highest number of starts, has only won 15.61 games per year - doesn't seem like it would be much for a pitcher to average 1.5 more wins per year, but then they'd not only have to do it for the 21 years Clemens has been around, but then 9 more! For his 21 years and 15.61 wins per year, Clemens still trails Young by 183 wins!

The best winning pct. of any active pitcher with over 1000 innings pitched are Tim Hudson and Pedro Martinez. Hudson's managed 15.33 wins per season for his 6 years, Martinez 15.16 for his 12. Impressive, but like Clemens, not going to get them even close to Young.

Young averaged 37.05 starts in his 22 years in the league - many years having over 40. The most Clemens ever had was 36, and that only once. His average is 30.43, and that's probably about normal. Six pitchers led the league with 35 starts last year. The opportunities just aren't there unless someone comes along who is virtually unhittable (and then they'd break the no-hitter record on their way to breaking Young's record!)

Put the calculator down Billy!! Gee wiz:D
What do you think of 300 wins in a career nowdays....anyone think it's unreachable? I do.

It's a bit of a freak record, but it's doable. Technically any pitcher that wins 8 games has the potential for all 8 to be nohitters - not likely of course, but it's possible. But with the way the game is played today, 511 wins by any pitcher is unachievable. That's 25.5 years of winning 20 games, or only 20.44 of winning 25. Find someone that can win 30 games in a year, they'd have to do it 17.03 times! To turn that around, even if you could find someone that could be an effective starter for 30 years, they'd have to average 17.03 wins a year.

Roger Clemens, who has the best winning pct. out of the top-five active pitchers with the highest number of starts, has only won 15.61 games per year - doesn't seem like it would be much for a pitcher to average 1.5 more wins per year, but then they'd not only have to do it for the 21 years Clemens has been around, but then 9 more! For his 21 years and 15.61 wins per year, Clemens still trails Johnson by 183 wins!

The best winning pct. of any active pitcher with over 1000 innings pitched are Tim Hudson and Pedro Martinez. Hudson's managed 15.33 wins per season for his 6 years, Martinez 15.16 for his 12. Impressive, but like Clemens, not going to get them even close to Johnson.

Johnson averaged 37.05 starts in his 22 years in the league - many years having over 40. The most Clemens ever had was 36, and that only once. His average is 30.43, and that's probably about normal. Six pitchers led the league with 35 starts last year. The opportunities just aren't there unless someone comes along who is virtually unhittable (and then they'd break the no-hitter record on their way to breaking Johnson's record!)

I totally agree billy. Given enough time, there's no particular reason that Ryan's -- and even DiMaggio's -- marks couldn't be broken. Unlike the number of pitching wins, there have been no structural changes in the game that would prevent those records from being broken. That being said, it's very, very, very unlikely that they will be broken. :)

The only thing that is 100% guaranteed, in my opinion, is Cy Young's record.

Oh, and I can easily see Smith's sacks mark being broken someday. I think Jerry Rice's career records are in better shape than Smith's.

Oh, and I can easily see Smith's sacks mark being broken someday.
Yep, I agree with that for sure.
Nolan Ryans ho-hitters is tougher than some think....how many complete games do guys pitch...and within those complete games, how many shutouts....let alone no-hitters. This is tough guys...I still think it's not gonna happen again...as long as I am alive.

No way that Nolans no-hitters will be touched, nor will Cy Youngs 511 wins....I seriously doubt that 300 wins will be reached...the way the pitching strategy has changed, set-up guys and closers screw it all up to break those records...I respect guys like Cory Lidle that can go out there and pitch complete games and get a few CG shutouts....hey Sucka: I plugging the Phillies here man!;)

HAHA, thank you sir!
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HAHA, thank you sir!
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sir?? when was I knighted?:D

Nolan Ryans ho-hitters is tougher than some think....how many complete games do guys pitch...and within those complete games, how many shutouts....let alone no-hitters. This is tough guys...I still think it's not gonna happen again...as long as I am alive.

Yeah, but if a guy is pitching a no-hitter, he's usually in until someone gets a hit, so obviously as long as the pitcher doesn't give up a hit he's got a decent shot at the complete game.

300 wins? I still say it's doable. Hudson stays with the Braves and they stay the type of team they've been, he's got a shot. Or really any of these guys that show promise with one team and then go to a Yankees or some other team that's winning.

Yeah, but if a guy is pitching a no-hitter, he's usually in until someone gets a hit, so obviously as long as the pitcher doesn't give up a hit he's got a decent shot at the complete game.

300 wins? I still say it's doable. Hudson stays with the Braves and they stay the type of team they've been, he's got a shot. Or really any of these guys that show promise with one team and then go to a Yankees or some other team that's winning.Billy: I know what you are saying, but I do not think that 1 pitcher nowdays can pitch 8 no-hitters in their career. Hudson might get 299 wins, but not 300. Yankees??? let's see what my 2nd favorite player all time will do with the no-hitter situation this year. Unbreakable IMO:)

Career wins for an F1 driver

Michael Schumacher has 83 wins and counting.

The next two is Alain Prost with 51, and Ayrton Senna with 41. (Prost retired, Senna killed Imola 1994)

The closest active driver is David Coulthard with 13 wins.

Well another thing we may never see is a pitcher get an era 1.12 like Bob Gibson. Just getting under 2.00 is tough as hell now a days.

I still hold a state high school football record for most yards in penalties in one season.
As an inside linebacker I managed to total 320 yards in penalties that season. Luckily our team took first place, so I was able to get away with it. Sometimes the coach would have me change jerseys/numbers at halftime. I would love to witness that record broken. The head ref came to our awards banquet and presented me with the first ever "Referee's Award." It was his yellow flag.

I still hold a state high school football record for most yards in penalties in one season.
As an inside linebacker I managed to total 320 yards in penalties that season. Luckily our team took first place, so I was able to get away with it. Sometimes the coach would have me change jerseys/numbers at halftime. I would love to witness that record broken. The head ref came to our awards banquet and presented me with the first ever "Referee's Award." It was his yellow flag.WOW! Do you still have the flag?

Surprised that Al Davis wasn't at your banquet with a contract for you!

Wayne Gretzky's 92 goals in one season, 50 goals in 39 games, 215 points in one season and the other 58 records he holds (I'm sure he'll lose a few over the next few years or so).
Wilt Chamberlain's 100 points in one game.

Johnny Vander Meer's 2 consecutive no hitters probably won't ever be broken. A pitcher would have to pitch 3 consecutive no hitters to break it. Very unlikely!

Johnny Vander Meer's no hitters (http://www.baseball-almanac.com/feats/featsjv.shtml)

I'll do one for each sport.

MLB - Cy Young's 511 wins
NASCAR - Richard Petty's 200 wins
NHL - most career points
NBA - Chamberlain's 100 points in a game

I couldn't think of any for the NFL.

Didn't Wilt have like 57 rebounds in one game? Or was it 30-something....if it's 50+, that's even less likely to get broken than his 100 points!

WOW! Do you still have the flag?

Actually, I still do have that flag.

Surprised that Al Davis wasn't at your banquet with a contract for you!


Yeah, I wish he was too. My favorite book at the time was Jack Tatum's "They Call Me The Assassin."

Tatum is my all-time favorite Buckeye !

What about Cal's consecutive game streak ? I don't think anyone's close to him now , and I think careers are getting shorter !

Gordie Howe played 32 seasons of pro hockey, and he retired at age 52. I doubt any player will ever play hockey as long as him, and at such a high level.

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Wayne Gretzky himself said his record of 50 goals in 39 games will be his toughest record to beat, I agree with him.


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Patrick Roy had 10 straight overtime wins in the playoffs in 1993 with Montreal, I remember it well. I doubt anyone will ever do that again, not in my lifetime anyway.


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Wilt Chamberlain's 100 pt. game, or how about Rickey Henderson's 70+ lead-off home runs, that's pretty impressive.

I still hold a state high school football record for most yards in penalties in one season.
As an inside linebacker I managed to total 320 yards in penalties that season. Luckily our team took first place, so I was able to get away with it. Sometimes the coach would have me change jerseys/numbers at halftime. I would love to witness that record broken. The head ref came to our awards banquet and presented me with the first ever "Referee's Award." It was his yellow flag.


Did you go to high school here in Olympia? That's a great record!

Nolan Ryan's No-hitters record is 7 not 8.

Also, I think Nolan's career record for strikeouts, 5,714 is untouchable. Esp. the way the game is played thes days.

Or Ryan's single season strikeout record of 383.

and Ryan's record of 27 MLB seasons is probably untouchable.

Ty Cobb's career Batting Average of .366 is mostly likely to never be broken.

or Rogers Hornsby's single season BA of .424

I don't think Ryans 383 Ks in a season in unbreakable. Randy Johnson has gotten over 300 Ks in a season recently. It will obviously take a great pitcher to break the record, but other pitchers have gotten close to it.

Wayne Gretzky's 92 goals in one season, 50 goals in 39 games, 215 points in one season and the other 58 records he holds (I'm sure he'll lose a few over the next few years or so).
Wilt Chamberlain's 100 points in one game.

I'm probably nuts, but I think the 92 goals, 50 in 39 and 215 are do-able. Assuming the NHL comes back with some answers on how to improve the game. With some of the rule changes they've proposed, I can see it happening. Get a kid like Crosby out there with some room to make plays and you never know. Gretzky speaks pretty highly of him. Career points would be damn near impossible though.

Did you go to high school here in Olympia? That's a great record!

Well, I attained that particular record while at Lake Washington HS. I ended up being transferred to Capital HS and graduated from there. Capital sucked!

Its hard to believe no one has posted this yet: Dan Marino's passing numbers: 61,361 total yards, 420 TD's, and 5,084 yards in one season. I thought the 48 TD's was untouchable, but I was wrong.

im pretty sure about nolan's 8 no-hitters...

Oscar Robinson averaging a triple double for an ENTIRE season.

I'm positive Ryan had 7 no hitters.

Ryan had 7 no hitters.

NBA - Chamberlain's 100 points in a game


Not sure somebody should break this record. Hey buddy, pass the ball, will ya?

Ryan's no-hitters:

7/15/73 vs. Detroit
5/15/73 vs. Kansas City
9/28/74 vs. Minnesota
6/1/75 vs. Baltimore
9/26/81 vs. Los Angeles
6/11/90 vs. Oakland
5/1/91 vs. Toronto

It would take 8 to break the record!

Rocky Marciano's record. 49-0, the only undefeated champion in the modern era.

Given most boxer's propensity to stick around too long, I don't think anyone will be breaking that anytime soon.

I doubt that Bretts posting record will be broke...he is un-breakable:D

do u see nolan ryan's 8 no-hitters being touched?

Not even Clemens got close...no way...

Oscar Robinson averaging a triple double for an ENTIRE season.

I'm positive Ryan had 7 no hitters.

You beat me to it. The triple-double season will never happen again...

Orel Hershisher's 60-inning scoreless streak.

Kareem's all-time scoring record. Even an iron man like Karl Malone couldn't do it.

Can anybody confirm Wilt's rebound record?

Wilt had a season with the Lakers where he averaged over 20 boards a game.

Didn't he get 50-something in one game?

I don't know for sure, but I wouldn't be surprised.

I'll throw one in there.

The Bulls 72 wins in a season.

An even better one, the Lakers 33-game winning streak in 71-72. I'd like to see any professional sports team do that.

How about Ty Cobb's lifetime batting average? Was'nt that .360 Something?
over a 20 year career? I think that MLB record is one of the untouchables!

I doubt that Bretts posting record will be broke...he is un-breakable:D

I don't know. FH is catching up with Brett fast!

Can anybody confirm Wilt's rebound record?

I posted this on the first page of this thread... but Wilt Chamberlain averaged 27.2 rebounds per game in 1961. He also averaged 50.4 points per game in 1962.

See http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/chambwi01.html

No one has mentioned the Miami Dolphins's undefeated season?? I dont think we'll EVER see that again in the NFL.

I doubt that Bretts posting record will be broke...he is un-breakable:D

I don't know. FH is catching up with Brett fast!

There was a day when it didn't seem like anyone would ever catch and surpass Glenn or Down In Flames - now they're numbers 2 & 4

Now let's keep this on sports!

No one has mentioned the Miami Dolphins's undefeated season?? I dont think we'll EVER see that again in the NFL.

I think it will. It's almost been done a couple times. The Bears almost did it, the Steelers last year, the Patriots, the Rams in 99 and 01. There are teams that will match that.

Also, when the Dolphins did it, it was a 14-game season.

I think it will. It's almost been done a couple times. The Bears almost did it, the Steelers last year, the Patriots, the Rams in 99 and 01. There are teams that will match that.

Also, when the Dolphins did it, it was a 14-game season.

I agree. This record is definitely breakable.

The Yankees record of 125 wins in a season should last for quite awhile.

How about Ty Cobb's lifetime batting average? Was'nt that .360 Something?
over a 20 year career? I think that MLB record is one of the untouchables!

Cobb .367
Hornsby .358
Jackson .356

What about Cy Young? It's hard to believe that someone could be be that good consistantly and get those kind on numbers every year. I don't think that his 511 wins all-time will ever be broken. His loss record probably will broken sometime.

I agree with the Cy Youngs' 511 win total. That will never be broken.

I agree with the Cy Youngs' 511 win total. That will never be broken.

That will definitely never be broken. Baseball has changed too much. This is one of those records where there should be an all time record (Cy Young) and the modern day record.

Cy Young started like 50-60 games a season too.

Yep. Just look at Maddux for comparison. He has won 16 or more games something like 13 or 14 years in a row, and he is still 200 victories short of Cy Young.

Cy Young started like 50-60 games a season too.
Shall we put an * next to his name?:D

Rocky Marciano's record. 49-0, the only undefeated champion in the modern era.

Given most boxer's propensity to stick around too long, I don't think anyone will be breaking that anytime soon.
there they go, there they go. EVERY time i start talkin about boxing , some white dude gotta throw in rocky marciano! rocky marciano! rocky marciano! let me tall you something once and for all , rocky marciano was good, but compared to joe louis, rocky marciano wasn't shit! :D

Orel Hershiser's 59 consecutive scoreless innings streak.

I'm getting nostalgic for hockey, so I'm gonna throw out the most improbable record/event I know of.

Mario Lemieux scores 5 goals all 5 different ways you can score a goal in one game... even-strength, powerplay, shorthanded, penalty shot, empty-net.

I don't know if you can really count that as a record, but it sure as crap won't be happening ever again. Man, I really miss hockey right now... :( :( :(

By the way, Go Pens! :)

Hockey? What's hockey?

Walter Johnsons record of 117 career shutouts IMO is unbreakable. Not too many pitchers will come close to 117 complete games let alone shutouts.

Orel Hershiser's 59 consecutive scoreless innings streak.

I can see this one going down, especially in the diluted talent pool of the MLB...

I still hold a state high school football record for most yards in penalties in one season.
As an inside linebacker I managed to total 320 yards in penalties that season. Luckily our team took first place, so I was able to get away with it. Sometimes the coach would have me change jerseys/numbers at halftime. I would love to witness that record broken. The head ref came to our awards banquet and presented me with the first ever "Referee's Award." It was his yellow flag.

Should be the 'Happy Gilmore' award...

"I once took off my skate and tried to stab someone with it..."

Great story, TT...

askmen.com's list of the 10 most unbreakable records:

http://www.askmen.com/sports/fitness_top_ten/38_fitness_list.html