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Lodewijk5150
08.14.07, 02:21 AM
I know that this discussion have been here before, but I could'nt fint the particular thread, so I'm sorry if this bother you.

But do we have any idéa of how they will make the high notes, which our own cannonmouth use to take? Will the chorus be the same, do you think wolfie is a high singer?

Or the second option; will they use prerecorded material, or a female singers voice?

Thank you for your responding!

leroy
08.14.07, 02:24 AM
Ed and Wolf will do it - maybe with some help piped in. Dave did make a point of saying the vocals were better than ever.

AT
08.14.07, 03:54 AM
Dude, quick lesson on musical terms: harmonics are very different from harmonies. Mike sang the harmonies.

plexi
08.14.07, 03:56 AM
Dude, quick lesson on musical terms: harmonics are very different from harmonies. Mike sang the harmonies.

He did however provide the harmonics at the start of 'Dirty Movies' or at least I hope he did, maybe Ed had already started laying down the bass tracks by then.

AT
08.14.07, 03:58 AM
He did however provide the harmonics at the start of 'Dirty Movies' or at least I hope he did, maybe Ed had already started laying down the bass tracks by then.

Indeed those were harmonics!

Darby
08.14.07, 04:14 AM
Well, from what I heard, Mike's prerecorded vocals will be piped through to give it that "Classic Van Halen sound". No Bullshit.

AT
08.14.07, 04:36 AM
Well, from what I heard, Mike's prerecorded vocals will be piped through to give it that "Classic Van Halen sound". No Bullshit.

That's just a rumor at this point. And it seems like kind of an unlikely one.

If they do indeed use MA's b-vox, I can say it will push me over the edge, personally. I don't expect or ask much of VH, but to remove Mike from the original album covers but still use his voice live would be, to me, the ultimate slam and a complete belittling of MA's value and VH contribution.

C5150
08.14.07, 04:45 AM
Well, from what I heard, Mike's prerecorded vocals will be piped through to give it that "Classic Van Halen sound". No Bullshit.

They said the kid has pipes in the PC! Don'y get all worked up untill you here Mikey's voice at the show!

ScottyBHarris
08.14.07, 04:58 AM
MelodicRock.com reported last week that Ed, Wolf and Al recorded some backing track that will be piped in. But if Wolf has the pipes then I'm not sure if they'll be used.

Ashe
08.14.07, 05:43 AM
At least one other person has to be singing along with Mike for it to be called a harmony. Mike singing to cover Sammy's butt on the last couple of tours doesn't count.

smithtone
08.14.07, 06:31 AM
That's just a rumor at this point. And it seems like kind of an unlikely one.

If they do indeed use MA's b-vox, I can say it will push me over the edge, personally. I don't expect or ask much of VH, but to remove Mike from the original album covers but still use his voice live would be, to me, the ultimate slam and a complete belittling of MA's value and VH contribution.

Agreed. Why are we, as fans, expected to buy every iteration of this band (with EVH's exaggerations) and accept its entire catalogue when the brothers don't? I hate to say it, but taking Mikey off the first cover like that is becoming par for the brothers.

RKVH5150
08.14.07, 06:41 AM
MelodicRock.com reported last week that Ed, Wolf and Al recorded some backing track that will be piped in. But if Wolf has the pipes then I'm not sure if they'll be used.


If that is the case, that will suck because that means each song has to be played exactly the same every night with little to no improvising.

Dave's Dreidel
08.14.07, 07:16 AM
I as big a fan of Dave as anybody, but saying that Mike covers for Sam live but is not needed for Dave is quite a stretch.

elvhfan
08.14.07, 08:21 AM
Well, from what I heard, Mike's prerecorded vocals will be piped through to give it that "Classic Van Halen sound". No Bullshit.


so they can use mike's vocals but they can't leave him on the album covers...ahahahahaha...what a disgrace....

Pumpkinhead
08.14.07, 02:45 PM
If that is the case, that will suck because that means each song has to be played exactly the same every night with little to no improvising.Most bands DO the same show every night with little or NO improvising! That's what rehersals are for before the tour goes out! However, they can still use samples of background VOX, it's not on tape like most of you think. All you have to do is have an off stage keyboardist hit a key and out come the Vocals! "and the monkey flips the switch!" .... :devil:

Mikey Metalhead
08.14.07, 05:25 PM
Most bands DO the same show every night with little or NO improvising! That's what rehersals are for before the tour goes out! However, they can still use samples of background VOX, it's not on tape like most of you think. All you have to do is have an off stage keyboardist hit a key and out come the Vocals! "and the monkey flips the switch!" .... :devil:

Queensryche... the drummer cues a lot of video and vocals thru a drum trigger.

muffdiver
08.14.07, 05:35 PM
Apparently Wolf sings great.....

RKVH5150
08.14.07, 05:48 PM
Queensryche... the drummer cues a lot of video and vocals thru a drum trigger.

Did not know this. I've learned something today.

NOaverageJOE
08.14.07, 09:32 PM
Did not know this. I've learned something today.

The backing vocals for Queensryche are most definitely piped in (you can hear Geoff's voice in the mix). I think the other guys sing along with them, but the recorded vocals always seem to be louder...I have a feeling that's what we'll get for this tour.

the_atomic_punks_rule
08.14.07, 09:47 PM
Queensryche... the drummer cues a lot of video and vocals thru a drum trigger.

But their show is way more performance based. And what a great show it is!

AT
08.15.07, 01:36 AM
Most bands DO the same show every night with little or NO improvising! That's what rehersals are for before the tour goes out! However, they can still use samples of background VOX, it's not on tape like most of you think. All you have to do is have an off stage keyboardist hit a key and out come the Vocals! "and the monkey flips the switch!" .... :devil:

There are a few folks who've posted recently who suggested that, in order for there to be pre-recorded vocals on each chorus, Alex would have to play along to a click track and stay in perfect time with it! Uh... we've come a long way in technology peoples!! There are samples triggered by one or more band members or someone off-stage. That stuff has been getting used by bands for 20-plus years now. If we can pack two months' worth of music on a handheld device smaller than a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, we can certainly figure out a way to bring in background vocals at at the precise time during the chorus of each song.

cooldrewb
08.15.07, 10:56 AM
My only problem with this where does it stop before we are just listening to the cd version. I love VH but come on. I want to see THEM playing the stuff not some device. That is why we pay to see live bands and with tickets prices so high I don't want to listen to a cd.

VH2001
08.15.07, 11:02 AM
MelodicRock.com reported last week that Ed, Wolf and Al recorded some backing track that will be piped in. But if Wolf has the pipes then I'm not sure if they'll be used.


Yeah...Ed, Wolf and Al probably recorded some backing track...using Mike's vocals!! :D

Bullwinkle
08.15.07, 11:50 AM
There are a few folks who've posted recently who suggested that, in order for there to be pre-recorded vocals on each chorus, Alex would have to play along to a click track and stay in perfect time with it! Uh... we've come a long way in technology peoples!! There are samples triggered by one or more band members or someone off-stage. That stuff has been getting used by bands for 20-plus years now. If we can pack two months' worth of music on a handheld device smaller than a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, we can certainly figure out a way to bring in background vocals at at the precise time during the chorus of each song.

Most of the time you still play with a click, though.
For example, you might have a recording of the line "how do I know when it's love", that you trigger with a drum pad. That works fine. But, if you start the song too fast, the words won't be in time when you trigger it and it sounds really bad. (Been there, done that.)

I suppose, way up in the "Pro-Pro" realm of musical equipment where only the Gods reside, there's a system that can stretch the sample according to a "tap tempo" off a trigger on the snare drum. I've never seen it, though.

And now I'm hungry for a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. BRB.

Pacfanweb
08.15.07, 12:41 PM
If that is the case, that will suck because that means each song has to be played exactly the same every night with little to no improvising.
VH with Dave didn't improvise much, anyway. They did the same exact show practically every night.

EBEVHMM2005
08.15.07, 04:55 PM
Some of you people just keep talking right out of your ass!!
It is pretty evident who has and who has never played in a pro band before!
Jeez-us!

Bullwinkle
08.15.07, 05:05 PM
It is pretty evident who has and who has never played in a pro band before!


Wolfgang, for one.

Eddymon
08.15.07, 05:23 PM
I guess we'll wait and see won't we.

Maybe Wolfie's balls haven't dropped yet or he could end up singing like Peter Brady.:D

mistere
08.15.07, 09:52 PM
Dave's only signed on to do comedy and jujitsu. What they're not telling you is
it will all be instrumental with Cirqe de Soleil ballet stylings from Dave.

Pumpkinhead
08.16.07, 12:29 AM
Some of you people just keep talking right out of your ass!!
It is pretty evident who has and who has never played in a pro band before!
Jeez-us!
Well I've worked for quite a few "PRO" bands, so what makes you so qualified?

Rockguitarstar
08.16.07, 02:08 PM
hey who knows, maybe Eddie's been working on his vocal abilities since last tour and Wolfy might be a super talented singer as well as the second coming on bass...

Mikey Metalhead
08.16.07, 05:00 PM
But their show is way more performance based. And what a great show it is!

agreed, I was not knocking it as I am a huge QR fan, and they lost a lot of vocal power without Chris.

Its not something they hide though, if you own the new MC1 and MCII DVD, Scott gives a quick explanation of how busy he is triggering things during one of his interviews.