This is an interview from Classic Rock Revisited Sept. 2005:

Jeb: Sammy, I know your focus is on your solo career and your businesses but I have readers who will kill me if I don’t ask this question. Is Van Halen done?

Sammy: I don’t know. It is right now. They can do whatever they want. If Ed and Al want to get a new singer and a new bass player then they can do whatever they want. I wouldn’t complain and I wouldn’t say that they shouldn’t have done that. What I would say is that I think it is a big mistake to do that. I would never try to run their lives like they do me. They are free to do whatever they want. The way they want to do business and the way they want to mingle with their co-band members and other people who are involved in their organization, I don’t want any part of. I am a very happy guy. I have found a happy life. If their lifestyle could fit in with mine then I would have no problem doing it again. I think it is inevitable.

Honestly, straight up, Eddie has changed a lot. Alex is okay and Mikey and I are best friends. Eddie, for me, is the problem. If you talked to Eddie then I am sure he would tell you that I am the problem. If he doesn’t like my lifestyle then I understand that. He wants to be miserable and I want to be happy – it is really that simple. If Eddie wants to be friends again and not do this just for business or for other kinds of reasons – I really don’t know why he wants to do it. I don’t even know if he even wants to do it. But if he wants to do it and do it for the right reasons and get together on a really good level then I would do it. I thought it was going to be great. I was all for the last reunion and it turned out to be pretty fucking tough finishing that tour out. I have to tell you that there were times on that tour that after a show it was like, "Get Sammy out that door and get Eddie out the other door." That ain’t no way to do things. I am not interested in yelling and screaming at anybody much less having someone yell and scream at me for having fun. It is like, "Hey, get the fuck out of my face, dude." There were too many rules – lets put it like that for me. I was told that I can’t do this or I can’t do that or I can’t say this or I can’t say that. Yet, Eddie can go say and do the shit that he did? No way. Right now, it is over for me but if they want to do it on real terms and with no rules and no business shit then I am fine.

Jeb: Last one: Since I was 15 I have been in love with the girl on the Standing Hampton cover. Who is she?

Sammy: I didn’t fuck her!

Jeb: That ruins my follow up question!

Sammy: I don’t even know who she was. They brought her in and I was not even there for the photo session. They guy who is in the picture with the top hat is Moshe Brakha. He designed the cover and he was the photographer. Not only was that son of a bitch there, he got in the picture and he’s the guy that probably got some of that. That girl was fine!

Sammy: "...if they want to do it on real terms and with no rules and no business shit then I am fine."

This WILL happen, they will get together and make peace and the brothers will have to cut Sammy some slack with all these stupid rules and just go out there and have FUN and make GREAT music again.

Eddie just said in Hit Parader he has no problem with Sammy, that they have an understanding. I think Sammy just needed some space from it all. After the solo stuff this year they'll reconvene. Im sure!:thumb:

Doubtful it will ever happen with Hagar again. Too much bad blood there as well. You think DLR was bad? Hagar doesn't know when to shut his yap!

As we know it, Van Halen's career is over. At this point, Ed should just release an instrumental and call it good.

Eddie just said he wouldn't release an instrumental Cd.
He also said him and Sam have an understanding and that all was fine with him.

I think they'll do it again, sometime in 2007.
But Eddie will have to let go of the rules.
Sammy's cool with Al and loves Mikey, it's just Eddie...

Sammy: "...we signed on for 80, we did 80 shows, and at the end of that, I think it was better to let that go for awhile. I'm not saying that we would never do it again, but some people would have to change, including maybe myself — maybe I'm the first guy that should change. But we would have to change. We couldn't just do it the way it was being done."

Up to Eddie ;)

Eddie just said he wouldn't release an instrumental Cd.
He also said him and Sam have an understanding and that all was fine with him.

I think they'll do it again, sometime in 2007.
But Eddie will have to let go of the rules.
Sammy's cool with Al and loves Mikey, it's just Eddie...

Sammy: "...we signed on for 80, we did 80 shows, and at the end of that, I think it was better to let that go for awhile. I'm not saying that we would never do it again, but some people would have to change, including maybe myself — maybe I'm the first guy that should change. But we would have to change. We couldn't just do it the way it was being done."

Up to Eddie ;)

Ah to be young and stupid again... If these guys were hungry again, it would be a totally different situation. We keep hoping they will change, but I believe they are too old and set in there ways.

I wish Sammy would just shut the f*@$ up. He wouldn't be in the position he is now if it weren't for the mighty Van Halen. So what if there are rules, they are probably there to keep Sammy from making a mockery of Van Halen, e.g., hawking the Cabo Wabo any chance he gets.

If it weren't for Van Halen, Sammy Hagar's career would have gone the way of Billy Squier. Who do you trust really? The band that has created such great music throughout their career or Sammy who's pre Van Halen career was mediocre at best.

BTW, I am a fan of both eras and was very disappointed when Sammy left the band the first time because I did think that he possessed the more powerful voice, but I'm just sick of his holier than thou attitude.

Eddie has turned into a huge control freak. The worst thing that ever could have happened to Van Halen was letting Eddie have control.

He is a musical wizard with a guitar in his hands. In any other capacity, he is a child.

He needs to write music, play music, and be kept the hell away from everything else in the business...the producing, recording, engineering, lyrics....everything.

Van Halen was at their best, whether Sammy or Dave was the singer, when they had someone like Ted Templeman and Donn Landee calling the shots in the studio.

Eddie has consistently said in interviews throughout the years that he wanted more control over the sound.
He said that Landee pretty much kept him away from the controls.
He said that they basically said "get over here guitar guy, and play this".
Templeman had a huge hand in actually putting the songs together and arranging them, along with DLR.
Same with Sammy. Sammy even said that of all the "ten albums' worth of material" Eddie claimed to have, all it really was was a crapload of riffs and melodies that didn't even resemble songs.

After both the lead singers the band has had, Eddie complained that they held him back, were control freaks, yadda yadda.

What the f... ever.

Now we see, since he has complete control, what he's capable of. Nothing.
He can't do shit without someone to either guide or tell him what to do.

He simply isn't capable of having control, and he's doing a fine job of demonstrating that right now.

At least we have the new Kevin Federline release to look forward to.

At least we have the new Kevin Federline release to look forward to.
that's it... a k-fed collaboration with eddie... (shudders...)

This is an old interview that had already been posted here. I'm too lazy to do the search, but I know I've seen it here before. A lot could've happened between then and now between Ed and Sam.

Sammy: "...if they want to do it on real terms and with no rules and no business shit then I am fine."

This WILL happen, they will get together and make peace and the brothers will have to cut Sammy some slack with all these stupid rules and just go out there and have FUN and make GREAT music again.

Eddie just said in Hit Parader he has no problem with Sammy, that they have an understanding. I think Sammy just needed some space from it all. After the solo stuff this year they'll reconvene. Im sure!:thumb:

I agree that I think they will go on tour again, although I would want them to record a new album or new material before going out there again, however over the past 10 years Ed has maintainted the fact that he and Sammy "never did not get along"(to quote Ed himself). He never said that they weren't friends or anything like that. I hope that they do have an understanding between each other but just because Ed says that they understand each other doesn;t mean that all is well. This is not meant to be pesimistic but that's just what I think.

Ed and Sam bury the hatchet... times running out.

He needs to write music, play music, and be kept the hell away from everything else in the business...the producing, recording, engineering, lyrics....everything."

Yeah, cause Sammy writes such great lyrics..... Sammy wouldn't even be a real name if it wasn't for Van Halen. Yeah, I like some of his solo songs, but nothing he did as a solo artist is 5 star worthy.

Shame none of these so called "Rules" did not include dressing like a clown and signing autographs to everyone in the first few rows instead of "Actually Singing" to the WHOLE crowd ....


Maybe next tour we can include these rules "Spamming Sammy"

My take is it seems the still underlining issue is Eddie's miserable, paranoid, Howard Hughes stick-in-a-rut workaholic living up against Sammy's lack of work ethic issue which doesn't want to agree with each other.

Understandably, Ed has been through alot (divorce, cancer, battles with the bottle, public sledging from previous lead singers) and needs to learn how to live normal, as well as finding his friendship with Sammy again. Sammy too, since he is pushing 60 purely wants to live life to the max and prefers doing the things he loves.

If Eddie can only be normal and happy again, so to inspire Sammy to work his butt off to produce great music together again, then we'd only have the Rothtards complaining. :D

Shame none of these so called "Rules" did not include dressing like a clown and signing autographs to everyone in the first few rows instead of "Actually Singing" to the WHOLE crowd ....


Maybe next tour we can include these rules "Spamming Sammy"

And how many shows did you attend where your witnessed the "lack of singing"?

I went to three shows and saw some of it going on...but to the point where the show was disrupted, I don't think so. Who really gives a shit if he missed a word or a verse here or there....christ, just throw in the 83 US Festival.

As far as dress, who cares, guys in bands have always been horrible dressers on stage, just kinda there thing. Whether it's leather chaps, peach colored parachurte pants or bright yellow and red shit....most of us wouldn't be caught dead in what "rock stars" wear on stage.

And for the record, out of 3 shows, not one mention of Cabo Wabo Tequila.
And for the record, I own ZERO Sammy Hagar albums and consider UFB a steamin' pile of shit.

If they reconvene with Sam, they really need to put out a new record. I fear it won't happen though because of the difficulties expressed by Sam of working with Ed in the studio. If there is another reunion, I have a feeling it will just be another tour. To which I must please ask, for the love of God, shake up the set list! If we're not going to get new music, at least give us a new show. Forget Dreams and play Summer Nights, skip Runaround and do Judgement Day, omit When It's Love and play Mine All Mine. At least try to give us something new, the lazy effort in 2004 could be written off as the guys getting comfortable with each other again, but going forward we need something new--or at least something we haven't heard for a while.

most of us wouldn't be caught dead in what "rock stars" wear on stage.

And for the record, out of 3 shows, not one mention of Cabo Wabo Tequila.
And for the record, I own ZERO Sammy Hagar albums and consider UFB a steamin' pile of shit.

Good points... even when performing on stage I wouldn't wear what most "rock stars" wear.

Your last two comments just moved you to the top of the crop for links mods!! :scared:

I think they will make great music again.

Look at the songs Eddie has written in the last 10 years or so:

Humans Being
Respect the Wind
Me Wise Magic
Can't Get This Stuff No More
Up For Breakfast
Learning to See
Its About Time

If they can record another 7 like that

add a few more KILLER tracks (Something like the 6 new Roth songs)
and a few heavy instrumentals
and maybe a new guitar solo

and you have a new VH cd that would be smokin'
:thumb:

I've met Sam Hagar for a few seconds at a meet and greet.
I've heard and seen countless interviews with Hagar.
I've read the "Chapters" that were leaked to the internet from his book.

I had to say that Sam's a decent guy who is probably pretty cool to hang with.

If EVH can't get along with Hagar, then who can he get along with?

His first singer split.
His second singer split
Mitch Malloy Split
His third singer split
His second singer split again.
His wife split
His record company split.

Anyone see a trend?

I just wish we had the "5150" Ed back...or even the "Balance" Ed back. Happy, smiling, loving life....yet seeming very aware of his surroundings and his actions.

While I appreciated Ed's spirit on the last tour, I am still disturbed when I watch boots or see clips from the 04 tour. He was a blast to watch, but this is not the same Ed that I grew up with. He's just so "out there"

And how many shows did you attend where your witnessed the "lack of singing"?

I went to three shows and saw some of it going on...but to the point where the show was disrupted, I don't think so. Who really gives a shit if he missed a word or a verse here or there....christ, just throw in the 83 US Festival.

As far as dress, who cares, guys in bands have always been horrible dressers on stage, just kinda there thing. Whether it's leather chaps, peach colored parachurte pants or bright yellow and red shit....most of us wouldn't be caught dead in what "rock stars" wear on stage.

And for the record, out of 3 shows, not one mention of Cabo Wabo Tequila.
And for the record, I own ZERO Sammy Hagar albums and consider UFB a steamin' pile of shit.

Absolutley none, I have 8 dvd boots from the tour.
Sammy was the one that brought up all the rules, I figured if there was some maybe there should be a couple of extras.

I own tons of Sammy solo music and videos/dvds, but still think UFB stinks.

This is an old interview. I read this one last year or so becasue I remember that question about the Standing Hampton chick.

This is an old interview. I read this one last year or so becasue I remember that question about the Standing Hampton chick.

It is dated 9/05... ;)

Eddie just said he wouldn't release an instrumental Cd.


If Ed did an instrumental, that would definitely be the end of VH. His guitar would probably do something that pissed him off and then he would go silent for another 6 years.

Look at the songs Eddie has written in the last 10 years or so:

Humans Being
Respect the Wind
Me Wise Magic
Can't Get This Stuff No More
Up For Breakfast
Learning to See
Its About Time


Some women have more children in 10 years then that. Give me a break. :)

Thanks for posting the part of the article.

One thing I'd like to know, maybe two things, is during the end of the tour, did Eddie and Sammy seem like friends on stage with the hugging and stuff? If so, was that really an act?

I saw them in Worcester and in Hartford and it looked like they were best buddies.

Earlier on in the tour, I think they were getting along just grand. Ed kissed Mike on the temple and hugged Sammy at the first show I saw. They were still in the "honeymoon phase" then. I don't think it got ugly until later.

Shari

The Standing Hampton chick question is definitely word for word from an interview from a lot longer than 9/2005. Unless the guy asked the same exact question and Sammy gave the same exact answer.

Some women have more children in 10 years then that. Give me a break. :)

Well... ;)

I left out the VH3 Cd, lots on there.

And the solos on the Roger Waters' song.

And Joy to the World!
:)

Remember, you have to add into the equation

losing Sammy
losing Gary
losing his hip
losing Valerie
losing Warner Bros.
losing part of his tongue to cancer
losing his mom

all the time it took to deal with all of THAT

and the crazy fuck is still ticking:thumb:
and hit the road for 80 dates in 2004

Lots of mourning going on, his head must be spinning...

He'll be back, I hope!
:bounce:

Doubtful it will ever happen with Hagar again. Too much bad blood there as well. You think DLR was bad? Hagar doesn't know when to shut his yap!

As we know it, Van Halen's career is over. At this point, Ed should just release an instrumental and call it good.

I'd say that even after 1996 and 2000 Classic Van Halen reunion, I still believed that this band would get together. But I think you're right, Sum. Van Halen is gone; sad, but true. :(

Ohhh God!!!! We DO NOT WANT more music with sam!! PLEASE!! With the lyrics he wrote from the best of.......no way!! Sam has one great song with VH,and that was his last one before their 1st break up,and that was Humans being. Bring back Dave!! Dave,working with Ed,is VH's only hope to recover their glory and get VH back on the map. If u people cant see that,then u r blind. Either that or a sheep.

Dave

Ohhh God!!!! We DO NOT WANT more music with sam!! PLEASE!! With the lyrics he wrote from the best of.......no way!! Sam has one great song with VH,and that was his last one before their 1st break up,and that was Humans being. Bring back Dave!! Dave,working with Ed,is VH's only hope to recover their glory and get VH back on the map. If u people cant see that,then u r blind. Either that or a sheep.

Dave


It's always nice to hear a fresh perspective on a topic. Sometimes hearing the same old opinions can get boring.

It's always nice to hear a fresh perspective on a topic. Sometimes hearing the same old opinions can get boring.


:funny:

Like a breath of fresh spring air. :cool:

:D

WOW!!!

Lots of great posts in this thread. :cool:

I really dig Pacfanweb's. :thumb:

His sums a lot of it up to the letter. Edward has proven that he cannot nor has he ever been able to be the "frontman." Fuck, even when the Van Halen's have bagged on Dave, they've always (and to this day) given him subtile props for being a good spokesperson.

I always loved Dave's analogy...

"We're the people's band, I mean we ARE for the people..."

That's what made Van Halen tick. Edward's brilliant musicianship combined with Dave's way of bouncing off from it. You add Teddy Templeman "cracking the whip" and hence, the CLASSIC SIX PACK which 'tis and will ALWAYS forever be what Van Halen 'tis remembered. ;)

When Dave left, both Edward and Alex loooooved doing interviews. Which was never really "allowed" prior and after the now infamous "they better be wearing a cup" spot, we can see why, IMO.

The Van Halen's are too fucking serious, think they have the charisma of a "frontman" whereas, they do not and never have. Therefore, should take their rightful place doing what they were born for... Playing their collective instruments and shutting the fuck up. Again, Edward said in 1986 that Dave was "good at the mouth" meaning pleasing the crowd, interviews, media and et all. Ed ain't, never was and look what's happened since he got total control of the reigns? Absolutely nothing!!!

I also buy Hagar's line about Edward NOT having "ten albums worth of material" as well. Those last three songs are the living proof of that. Even with such a stellar producer, those songs absolutely blew. Just goes to prove the fact of how influental a producer 'tis with those guys.

Ed shitcanned Landee, thus completely erasing any elements of what was left of the "brownsound" on record, get's Johns (at Alex's request) yet STILL has to bring in 'Ol Teddy T. to work with the singer. Then on that "Balance" record (which a lot of you love so much) they had a great producer. I may hate the record but at least it had stellar production.

Where am I going with this rant, dunno m'self? lol

I'm just trying to show that EVH has no leadership skills. Fuck, not all can play quarterback within the confines of a band. VHIII proved that and then some. Not takin' anything away from his God Given Gift as a musician but he just doesn't have the producing talents (on his own) as a Townshend or a Page, so to speak.

As The Late Frank Zappa once said...

"Shut up and Play yer Guitar..." :D

It's always nice to hear a fresh perspective on a topic. Sometimes hearing the same old opinions can get boring.

No and I completely disagree.

The debates have been and always shall be both the cornerstone and foundation of what makes the topic of Van Halen an entertaining read. If this Main forum were nothing but a love train, there would be zero activity and y'all friggin' know it. :)

No offense to you personally at all but these "Holier than Thou" comments about Dave/Spam wars are usually stated by a lot of the same schmucks who like to chime in (or feel it's their duty) whenever one's taking place. I guess I could fall into said category as well? With the exception that I ain't heeya 24/7, ya dig? ;)

WOW!!!

Lots of great posts in this thread. :cool:

I really dig Pacfanweb's. :thumb:

His sums a lot of it up to the letter. Edward has proven that he cannot nor has he ever been able to be the "frontman." Fuck, even when the Van Halen's have bagged on Dave, they've always (and to this day) given him subtile props for being a good spokesperson.

I always loved Dave's analogy...

"We're the people's band, I mean we ARE for the people..."

That's what made Van Halen tick. Edward's brilliant musicianship combined with Dave's way of bouncing off from it. You add Teddy Templeman "cracking the whip" and hence, the CLASSIC SIX PACK which 'tis and will ALWAYS forever be what Van Halen 'tis remembered. ;)

When Dave left, both Edward and Alex loooooved doing interviews. Which was never really "allowed" prior and after the now infamous "they better be wearing a cup" spot, we can see why, IMO.

The Van Halen's are too fucking serious, think they have the charisma of a "frontman" whereas, they do not and never have. Therefore, should take their rightful place doing what they were born for... Playing their collective instruments and shutting the fuck up. Again, Edward said in 1986 that Dave was "good at the mouth" meaning pleasing the crowd, interviews, media and et all. Ed ain't, never was and look what's happened since he got total control of the reigns? Absolutely nothing!!!

I also buy Hagar's line about Edward NOT having "ten albums worth of material" as well. Those last three songs are the living proof of that. Even with such a stellar producer, those songs absolutely blew. Just goes to prove the fact of how influental a producer 'tis with those guys.

Ed shitcanned Landee, thus completely erasing any elements of what was left of the "brownsound" on record, get's Johns (at Alex's request) yet STILL has to bring in 'Ol Teddy T. to work with the singer. Then on that "Balance" record (which a lot of you love so much) they had a great producer. I may hate the record but at least it had stellar production.

Where am I going with this rant, dunno m'self? lol

I'm just trying to show that EVH has no leadership skills. Fuck, not all can play quarterback within the confines of a band. VHIII proved that and then some. Not takin' anything away from his God Given Gift as a musician but he just doesn't have the producing talents (on his own) as a Townshend or a Page, so to speak.

As The Late Frank Zappa once said...

"Shut up and Play yer Guitar..." :D

Preach on, Max!! Great post right here, right nah!! That's the best thing about Eddie's reclusiveness--no interviews!!! Shut up and plug that starvation box in, King Edward!!:D

Preach on, Max!! Great post right here, right nah!! That's the best thing about Eddie's reclusiveness--no interviews!!! Shut up and plug that starvation box in, King Edward!!:D

Thanks my Blues Lovin' Mamma Jamma. :D

You know and at the end of the day, props from my friends and peers like Brother Loons heeya makes this all worth while and makes me remember why I friggin' post in the first place. :cool:

Max - you have a valid point that Edward is not a great spokesperson even though I worship at the man's feet. It's not his forte however, I'm not so sure it was his idea to be the spokesperson rather it was a default position. He was the other most in demand person in the band by the media. Come on, we all know Edward would rather live in 5150 or be on stage playing music. He's a recluse. And per his own admission had to be drinking to go on stage. That is not a person who wants the limelight.

And heck yeah, Dave was one of the very best at playing the media, being an entertainer. That was his forte but if he's not around, who do you talk too? As for comments made after his departure, I truly believe it hurt Edward more than we will ever know. Hurt feelings are much hard to repair than disagreements over music. We would like for everything to be water over the dam, I just don't know that Edward has a personality to forget although he can forgive (which is why they tried again) Just my thoughts and I'm the first to admit I'm biased. It's too bad really as it was the friction/give and take which made for such great music.

I will ask this, if you felt you had been restrained for years from putting out your vision of music, wouldn't you try it? I can't fault Edward for trying it. It may not have turned out the way he had hoped but he had to try.

Max - you have a valid point that Edward is not a great spokesperson even though I worship at the man's feet. It's not his forte however, I'm not so sure it was his idea to be the spokesperson rather it was a default position. He was the other most in demand person in the band by the media. Come on, we all know Edward would rather live in 5150 or be on stage playing music. He's a recluse. And per his own admission had to be drinking to go on stage. That is not a person who wants the limelight.

And heck yeah, Dave was one of the very best at playing the media, being an entertainer. That was his forte but if he's not around, who do you talk too? As for comments made after his departure, I truly believe it hurt Edward more than we will ever know. Hurt feelings are much hard to repair than disagreements over music. We would like for everything to be water over the dam, I just don't know that Edward has a personality to forget although he can forgive (which is why they tried again) Just my thoughts and I'm the first to admit I'm biased. It's too bad really as it was the friction/give and take which made for such great music.

I will ask this, if you felt you had been restrained for years from putting out your vision of music, wouldn't you try it? I can't fault Edward for trying it. It may not have turned out the way he had hoped but he had to try.

Stellar post. :cool:

Seriously, my hat's off to ya. :)

I'm seriously floored to read a total "Ed-Head" and a "Dave or the Graver" fully agree on said subject. 'Tis beyond cool. :thumb:

Why thank you. I don't quite understand why it doesn't happen more often.

Why thank you. I don't quite understand why it doesn't happen more often.


No, thank you. :)

Honestly, it's cos half of the peeps didn't grow up with the shit. I'm a guitar player so I love Edward's talent. However, I've also seen CVH live in front of my own nekkid eyes, lol. Dave sold it to me yeeyas ago. I took his side when they split. Mainly cos I thought Hagar was a hack. Which I still do to this day and as if you couldn't tell? lmao

I still get that Edward was "hurt" and needed to "move on" but I feel without people like Dave, Ted Templeman or Don Landee "pushing" him, he became lazy and subsiquently ended up writing lazy music. Not my forte. ;)

No and I completely disagree.

The debates have been and always shall be both the cornerstone and foundation of what makes the topic of Van Halen an entertaining read. If this Main forum were nothing but a love train, there would be zero activity and y'all friggin' know it. :)

No offense to you personally at all but these "Holier than Thou" comments about Dave/Spam wars are usually stated by a lot of the same schmucks who like to chime in (or feel it's their duty) whenever one's taking place. I guess I could fall into said category as well? With the exception that I ain't heeya 24/7, ya dig? ;)


No offense taken. I can enjoy a good CVH/Van Hagar debate as much as the next guy, and quite frankly I always land on the side of CVH. I just think that it's a little boring, and quite overdone, to simply say "the Sammy era sucked"--in the middle of a thread where there hadn't been any debate. If someone were to make the effort to explain why they felt that way or at least tried to make their post more entertaining, I wouldn't have mentioned it. I don't always agree with your posts Max, but I've always enjoyed reading them, you've probably made me laugh out loud as much as anyone else here.

I'm certainly not "holier than thou", if you look at my profile or read through any of my posts, it's pretty clear I don't like both eras "equally." I like the Van Hagar era a lot more than some other people do, but the six pack will always be my drinking choice.

Of course these are our opinions and I can see where you might think Edward was being lazy because he wasn't being pushed to the breaking point and Dave might have been good doing it. But as a guitar player I would assume over the years your music and abilities have been in many different places if just for the experience. If you were still playing the exact same way you did when you learned how to play, it would be pretty boring.

I see it more as being bored, moving into new territory, experimenting, the mad scientist seeing what reaction will happen if I mix this chemical with another. Was it growth in the direction everyone wanted, definitely not. It was just different same as III was different. As for III, I'm not crazy about all the lyrics and the production was not on par with past efforts but I liked the music. You have to see the potential for Fire In The Hole or how bluesy Dirty Water Dog could have been with say Dave. But lazy? Nah, just not what you and many others wanted to hear. How can you be lazy about music when you live, eat and breath it 24/7? That would be like saying Dave is not entertaining on his radio show because he's being serious and not giving Rothisms left and right. It's just different and not what people want to hear but it's still Dave, new chemicals being mixed together if you will.

I 2nd that !! right on the money dude

I see were right on track again in this thread too.

Okay...Back to the topic ;)

Sammy from Sept. 2005:

If Eddie wants to be friends again and not do this just for business or for other kinds of reasons...if he wants to do it and do it for the right reasons and get together on a really good level then I would do it...if they want to do it on real terms and with no rules and no business shit then I am fine.

It will happen
just not until after Sammy's solo tour, which he warned us about early on in the reunion talks.

Give it time.

Okay...Back to the topic ;)

Sammy from Sept. 2005:

If Eddie wants to be friends again and not do this just for business or for other kinds of reasons...if he wants to do it and do it for the right reasons and get together on a really good level then I would do it...if they want to do it on real terms and with no rules and no business shit then I am fine.

It will happen
just not until after Sammy's solo tour, which he warned us about early on in the reunion talks.

Give it time.

Yeah it could and more than likely will happen, but jesus Sammy is ALL BUSINESS, just under the guise of a cabo party, how does he spew this kind of line " if they want to do it on real terms and with no rules and no business shit then I am fine "

Sammy for President 2008

There are a significant number of things that are working against Van Halen ever reconvening for any real length of time (i.e. being a "band" again).

Numbers 1 and two are Sammy and Dave. no matter which one you listen to they both bitch and moan about Ed. Sammy doesn't like Eddie's rules. Whah!!! Dave longs to be back in the band that he QUIT in 1985 but yet somehow we are to belive he left becasue they didn't wat to work. Whah!!!

Number 3 is of course Ed. Yes the man has been through a great deal over the past 5 years or so. The cancer, the divorce, the on going drinking issue. And yes Ed does have issues reagrding control over the band. But on some level why shouldn't he. When DLR bailed he left Ed and the band in a lurch. Ed really had no choice but to take the reigns as a matter of self preservation. Sam entered probably quite happy to get the greatest gig in rock and roll. After a while just like Dave, Sammy got a little full of himself (but a lead singer without an over inflated ego is destined for failure) and all of the little shit turned into a giant turd and Sam was gone.

For as great as both Dave and Sam are they do indeed suffer from what terms "Lead Singer Disease". Ed on the other hand seems to almost live the life of a recluse.

Bottom line: Al and Mikey need to line Dave, Sam and Ed up smack the three of them around until they all come to their senses. Everyone who ever was or will be involved with Van Halen, need to sit in a room with a mediator so they can vent all of the bad shit that has built up and needs to be said in order for the band to move forward.

Friendships need to be rebuilt. Fun needs to be restored. And Van Halen needs to rise from the ashes of bitterness and anger, and reclaim their crown as the greatest "band" in the world.

Friends.
Fun.
Bandmates.
Fun.
Music.
Fun.
CD & Tour.
Fun, Fun, Fun.

Being in a band needs to be less about business and more about musicianship.

I see were right on track again in this thread too.

Not tryin' to stir the pot but we've had some interesting discussion so far. What's wrong with that? :confused:

Also, it 'tis "on topic" cos we're discussing our opinions about Edward based from what Hagar said in said interview. :)

There are a significant number of things that are working against Van Halen ever reconvening for any real length of time (i.e. being a "band" again).

Numbers 1 and two are Sammy and Dave. no matter which one you listen to they both bitch and moan about Ed. Sammy doesn't like Eddie's rules. Whah!!! Dave longs to be back in the band that he QUIT in 1985 but yet somehow we are to belive he left becasue they didn't wat to work. Whah!!!

Number 3 is of course Ed. Yes the man has been through a great deal over the past 5 years or so. The cancer, the divorce, the on going drinking issue. And yes Ed does have issues reagrding control over the band. But on some level why shouldn't he. When DLR bailed he left Ed and the band in a lurch. Ed really had no choice but to take the reigns as a matter of self preservation. Sam entered probably quite happy to get the greatest gig in rock and roll. After a while just like Dave, Sammy got a little full of himself (but a lead singer without an over inflated ego is destined for failure) and all of the little shit turned into a giant turd and Sam was gone.

For as great as both Dave and Sam are they do indeed suffer from what terms "Lead Singer Disease". Ed on the other hand seems to almost live the life of a recluse.

Bottom line: Al and Mikey need to line Dave, Sam and Ed up smack the three of them around until they all come to their senses. Everyone who ever was or will be involved with Van Halen, need to sit in a room with a mediator so they can vent all of the bad shit that has built up and needs to be said in order for the band to move forward.

Friendships need to be rebuilt. Fun needs to be restored. And Van Halen needs to rise from the ashes of bitterness and anger, and reclaim their crown as the greatest "band" in the world.

Friends.
Fun.
Bandmates.
Fun.
Music.
Fun.
CD & Tour.
Fun, Fun, Fun.

Being in a band needs to be less about business and more about musicianship.


I think 99.9% of fans want that to, but there a huge problem ... MONEY

Not tryin' to stir the pot but we've had some interesting discussion so far. What's wrong with that? :confused:

Also, it 'tis "on topic" cos we're discussing our opinions about Edward based from what Hagar said in said interview. :)

How was the pastrami sandwich? :D

How was the pastrami sandwich? :D

lmao :)