Sorry, if this has been posted before, but I didn't find a thread with this topic. If there already is one, I aplogize and one of the mods can close this one.

According to blabbermouth.net, Sammy hopes to do his shows for free in the future. Here's the whole article:

SAMMY HAGAR Hopes To Make Concerts Free In The Future - Aug. 1, 2005
Launch Radio Networks reports: Sammy Hagar hopes that in the near future he won't have to charge for a concert ticket again. Hagar told Launch that his other ventures, like Cabo Wabo tequila and his Cabo Wabo Cantina clubs, are making enough money to subsidize his live dates. He plans to pass that benefit on to the fans. "I'm getting real close to being able to go out and perform, big concerts with huge production, for free," he said. "That's what I'm trying to get to. It's a year or two early from being able to do it for free, assuming the company keeps growing the way it is."

Hagar's "The Tequila Made Me Do It Tour" kicks off this Saturday (August 6) in Independence Township, Michigan. Besides music from Hagar with both THE WABORITAS and MONTROSE, the shows will also feature a parking lot tailgate party with beach volleyball, auto shows, a "Sammy-oke" karaoke stage, Mariachi bands, and photo ops with donkeys wearing sombreros.

Hagar, who spent most of 2004 with a reunited VAN HALEN, hopes to start work on a new album later this year.
source: http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=39966

Uh oh. I hear the rumblings of approaching artillery. Duck and cover. :devil:

I hope he makes them free in Europe too.

Well we all know who the new album ISN'T with.

Can't wait to read this thread in a few hours. :devil:

Awfully nice of Saint Sammy. God, has anybody else seemed quite so desperate to come off as a "good guy." There's nothing wrong with charging a reasonable price for a concert ticket, why not just say he'd like to keep prices down, rather than this b.s. about "free" shows?

I love Sammy (and everything VH). However, this will never happen and his discussion of it (concert tix prices, money he has made from Cabo Wabo, etc.) has become tiring. :sleep:

Concentrate on the music, or better yet, the promise ("It's About Time") to kick the VH fanbase in the ass for the years of futility! :brickwall

How desperate is this guy for attention..................Another Im doing it for the fans deal......Geeezzz.........Remember when he got into the tequila business so his fans could enjoy the same tequila he did?????...

I know Sam, charge me the 50 bucks and give me a concert without pimping the tequila for 90 minutes.....That would be nice.............


YOu can fool some of us but not all of us..............

easy for a 60 year old millionaire to say that....i'm a starving artist and the only way my band makes money is from shows, not from cd sales....i'm sure i'd talk like sammy too if i wanted everyone to love me and i was set for life financially.

Brian

If the free concerts are Sammy's true intentions, then that is cool of him. If not, then it is really uncool to gain press with these statements.

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Wrong was I. It didn't take hours.

Wrong was I. It didn't take hours.

It's foolish to underestimate the character assassination squad. They know the tequila pimp's true nature far better than the rest of us. They see the things we don't. ;)

Well we all know who the new album ISN'T with.

Well now wait a minute, that's not definite!! :D :thumb:

I thought it sounded like a great concept, but apparently too good to be true for some I guess. Who wouldn't want to be able to have their production costs already paid for????? :eek:

As someone else said, I can't wait to see this thread in about ONE HOUR. :sssh:

It's foolish to underestimate the character assassination squad. They know the tequila pimp's true nature far better than the rest of us. They see the things we don't. ;)

Come on, you don't find that statement to be just a little too self serving? Hey, I would love for him to prove me wrong and start playing for free but he would be the first act in history to stop charging for his shows. I like Sammy but statements like that are just silly.

I will say that none of us know the context in which it was said, maybe he was joking around and it got reported as a factual statement.

Some of you need to put the popcorn down and just let things take their natural course.

Do I think Sammy would like to do free shows? Yes. Do I think he will? No.

The guy doesn't have to play any shows. He's set for life, with a sound business providing him with whatever music didn't--and that can't be much. I think he tours because he enjoys it. His bandmates, however, do it because they've got a good gig. Sammy might not take a cut at some point, but I'm willing to bet that the shows themselves will rarely be free.

I'm reminded of the show he was supposed to play in Louisville, in 1998 I think. It was supposed to be the opening event for the Derby festival, and Sammy was booked to play the arena there. He'd played a theater in town the summer before, and didn't sell it out. He didn't even sell the main floor of that arena in 1998. Did he play it anyway? Nope. "Would you do it for free?" Nope. He made some BS excuse about the stage not being ready and cancelled the show. Whether that was about pride (not wanting to play to an arena with 500 people in it) or money (playing the show would have cost more than it took in from the meager ticket sales) I don't know. All I know is that a pro like Sammy wouldn't make such a basic, fundamental mistake.

I will say that none of us know the context in which it was said, maybe he was joking around and it got reported as a factual statement.

The press not reporting factual information????? :eek: :D

Come on, you don't find that statement to be just a little too self serving? Hey, I would love for him to prove me wrong and start playing for free but he would be the first act in history to stop charging for his shows. I like Sammy but statements like that are just silly.

I will say that none of us know the context in which it was said, maybe he was joking around and it got reported as a factual statement.

Oh, I don't profess to know what exactly Sam's intents are. Agreed, it seems like a lofty and unrealistic ideal...that said, I dunno if Sam's just trying to be cool or if he's promoting an image that won't be followed up on. I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that he in fact wants to do it. Sam seems like an easy-going guy, and he tries to stoke his fan base more than some other artists which shall not be named. ;) One thing's likely certain, if he actually initiated such a protocol, it'd probably be on a limited basis and at very select venues, perhaps his clubs and smaller venues exclusively. Paying promoter and distributors' costs out of pocket on a nationwide tour wouldn't be small cheese...on the other hand, neither are those tequila profits.

I have been a Sammy fan for a long time been to 25 sammy shows and 10 VH shows in 2004 and about 20 other VH shows before that.

After watching the Birthday Bash DVD the other night (which I was at both nights) I just thought if Sam wants to play with a band like the Wabo's who are incredibly overated muscians by the fans that seem to buy into the tequila lifestyle, then sam should just play with them and not VanHalen.

VanHalen makes Sam look great! but when he plays with the Wabo's he's just looks like an old drunk guy in bad beach clothes. In this case he should play for free, because it isn't worth a dime anymore.

Sam likes the waboritas because he can control it and everyone involved in it, it's all his way or your out. you should see the way Sam treats the wabo's during soundcheck.

I think Sam has changed the most over the past few years, going from a pretty laid back guy to a control freak egomaniac. the fact that he is even concerned, that he have enough cash in is pocket to go play for free with a big production really means as soon as I have mine, i'll give you yours. which tells me that he's thinking more about the $$Money$$ than the music. He is constantly commenting about this free concert thing because he has so much money, which is what he apparently likes to brag about nowadays.

I say good for you sam you got alot of money but you lost your soul along the way, go find it!! because at one point in time you were a Kickass musician and a hell of a human being, but now all you are is a giant bottle of tequila full of money.

Say what you want about ed's so-called sloppy playing but sam was only at 1 soundcheck last year, while the other three members showed up every day. and to me Ed sure seemed to be having a whole lot o' fun. while sammy just went thru the motions.

SAM you been using the same schtick about free shows for years now, not everyone is drunk all the time and is under your tequila laden spell. Go challenge yourself Sam, challenge yourself like you did before, when you had a hard time with the lyrics but somehow you overcame it.

Go get pissed off like when you wrote "little white lies" go get some pussy, find some damn inspiration besides being suprised that you can still get a a chubby in the morning while talking to your mom and writing a song about it. But most of all go find your soul,

I sure miss the days that it was about the music.

Let me preface this by saying that I am not a Sammy basher and actually have enjoyed all eras of Van Halen, but...


Sammy Hagar is no longer a musician in the way that Eddie Van Halen, Robert Plant, Jeff Beck are when it comes to the approach of their craft. As much negative press Eddie has received it is the general concensus that he is the genius behind the music that is Van Halen. If he wants to take two years to record an album with his band then he should be entitled. We all know that it would be worth the wait except for Mr. Hagar who thinks that phoning in lyrics is enough work to contribute to such a legendary band.

My point is, if Sammy Hagar had put as much effort into working with Van Halen as he has marketing his Cabo Wabo brand then Van Halen would probably be in a better place right now.

Sammy Hagar has become a business man primarily marketing his tequila to the frat boy set (don't get me wrong, I like the Cabo; it's good stuff) by way of his music. Sure he has his long time fan base and also some of us who followed him after his departure from Van Halen (although after ten 13 I probably will stop buying his albums unless they offer something more musically), but I for one have gotten fed up with the pimping of the tequila at every show and refuse to attend any more of his concerts (last show I attended was during the tour he did with Diamond Dave).

This latest bit about free shows and all the shit he has been talking about Van Halen is just a way to bring attention to the fact that he is currently touring and wants to sell tickets so he can sell his tequila. So if everyone is a good fan and comes to the shows and buys the tequila, then maybe in a couple of years you won't have to pay for this ongoing Cabo Wabo tequila concert commercial.

From a monetary standpoint it seems impossible that the free concert tour would actually come to fruition. Is he really going to pay for renting out all the halls, security and staff, travel, crew, etc, etc? I could see pulling off one or two free shows every once in a while, but I am very skeptical unless he is approaching Bill Gates' level of fortune. I think this is just more BS he is hoping his fans will fall for.

At this point, I just hope that Van Halen can regroup and realize that they are the force behind the music. They can be successfull with Dave, Sammy and to a lesser degree with Gary; however, I would still support them if they decide to show the world their musicianship as a power trio and give the vocals a break for a while until someone realizes who the captain of the ship truly is.

I'm not saying Sammy's a bad guy, he wouldn't be the first guy to try to get some favorable press by showing his "nobility". (Would it surprise anyone if DLR's people leaked the story about him being an EMT last summer?) It's cool if he tries to keep ticket prices as low as possible, but we all pay for movie tickets, amusement park tickets, sports tickets, concerts should be no different. As long as we're not being ripped off I have no problem paying money for a good show.

I have been a Sammy fan for a long time been to 25 sammy shows and 10 VH shows in 2004 and about 20 other VH shows before that.

After watching the Birthday Bash DVD the other night (which I was at both nights) I just thought if Sam wants to play with a band like the Wabo's who are incredibly overated muscians by the fans that seem to buy into the tequila lifestyle, then sam should just play with them and not VanHalen.

VanHalen makes Sam look great! but when he plays with the Wabo's he's just looks like an old drunk guy in bad beach clothes. In this case he should play for free, because it isn't worth a dime anymore.

Sam likes the waboritas because he can control it and everyone involved in it, it's all his way or your out. you should see the way Sam treats the wabo's during soundcheck.

I think Sam has changed the most over the past few years, going from a pretty laid back guy to a control freak egomaniac. the fact that he is even concerned that he have enough cash in is pocket to go play for free with a big production really means as soon as I have mine, i'll give you yours. which tells me that he's thinking more about the $$Money$$ than the music. He is constantly commenting about this free concert thing because he has so much money, which is what he apparently likes to brag about nowadays.

I say good for you sam you got alot of money but you lost your soul along the way, go find it!! because at one point in time you were a Kickass musician and a hell of a human being, but now all you are is a giant bottle of tequila full of money.

Say what you want about ed's so-called sloppy playing but sam was only at 1 soundcheck last year, while the other three members showed up ever day. and to me Ed sure seemed to be having a whole lot o' fun. while sammy just went thru the motions.

I sure miss the days tha it was about the music.


Well said. It's funny I read this post right after I posted mine and the sentiment seems to be the same.

Maybe this way Sammy will actually PACK an arena.

I think, perhaps, we should be careful about thinking that anyone that isn't a fan cares if Sammy wants to play for free or not. Whatever the reality of it is, he didn't do this to get press. Let's be a little realistic, eh? A rocker twenty years past his prime doing a solo tour of theaters isn't going to be doing himself any favors in terms of ticket sales by suggesting that in a couple of years the shows might be free.

Uh oh. I hear the rumblings of approaching artillery. Duck and cover. :devil:
If he gives out free beer, I'm there!:D
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You know what? I really dug what Sammy did with VH and what he has done solo... but this free show shit.... must be nice to not have to rely on show sales, etc. Does he deserve the rewards for what he's accomplished, sure. Here's what I simply think Sammy should do. Start your own fucking label and give us guys that have unknown bands a chance. Spread the music so to speak. Give us guys in a band that was influenced by VH a chance.. to carry on the legacy since VH.. errr EVH won't prove people wrong. I'm done ranting.. let me go grab another beer and continue writing music since someone else won't.... but I don't have 15 albums worth.. lol.

People moan about free shows? :wtf:

I swear, now I really have seen everything here. :D

You fuckers continually trip me the fuck out!! :thumb:

So now free shows aren't cool? Ok gotcha. LOL.

There's just no winning with some of you.

People moan about free shows? :wtf:

I swear, now I really have seen everything here. :D

You fuckers continually trip me the fuck out!! :thumb:

I totally agree Seen....
Personally, I think he really DOES want to do it, but it looks like even if he DID, hardly anybody here even wants to go to a free Sammy show. They'd rather sit around and gripe about how much they got raped for tickets to the 2004 VH shows. :wtf:Go figure. :rolleyes:

JA :) <---will be at any free Sammy shows in NorCal whenever it happens!

So now free shows aren't cool? Ok gotcha. LOL.

There's just no winning with some of you.

Let's see...the cash grab with the Van Halen reunion tour because that's all they cared about...now free shows are bullshit because he's a self serving...damn, I even got lost typing that.

So now free shows aren't cool? Ok gotcha. LOL.

There's just no winning with some of you.
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Actually, this might be a GOOD thing. :)
Maybe if all those people who are now griping about the free show deal don't go to the free shows...there will be more space for me to dance and have FUN when *I* go to those free shows and rock my ass off! LOL! ;)

JA :)

People moan about free shows? :wtf:

I swear, now I really have seen everything here. :D

You fuckers continually trip me the fuck out!! :thumb:

AMEN!!!


So now free shows aren't cool? Ok gotcha. LOL.

There's just no winning with some of you.


AMEN!!!

Let's see...the cash grab with the Van Halen reunion tour because that's all they cared about...now free shows are bullshit because he's a self serving...damn, I even got lost typing that.

and AMEN!!!

:rolleyes:

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Actually, this might be a GOOD thing. :)
Maybe if all those people who are now griping about the free show deal don't go to the free shows...there will be more space for me to dance and have FUN when *I* go to those free shows and rock my ass off! LOL! ;)

JA :)


...and I'll be right there dancin' beside you sista'!!! :thumb:

Let's see...the cash grab with the Van Halen reunion tour because that's all they cared about...now free shows are bullshit because he's a self serving...damn, I even got lost typing that.

Giving free shows isn't self serving. Saying "he's close to being able to give free shows in a year or two" is self serving. It's the difference between someone saying they would love to volunteer for the peace corps and someone who actually does it. Or someone who would love to make a donation to a charity and someone who does it. If one day Sammy stops charging for his shows, I'll gladly eat every word I say. Untill then it's just empty talk.

I don't think people are complaining about free shows. They're complaining about the constant BS that seems to flow out of Sam's mouth. You really think Sam is going to play for free? He's been talking a lot of shit lately, and this is just another example of it. I got no problem paying for cd's or music downloads, or concerts. People need to make a living. He might pull off a free show, but there is no way Sam is going to do a ton of shows for free, and I wouldn't expect him to. Sam needs to shut up and then decide if he's going to be in VH or not. If not, then fine, say so. If he is, then he needs to get his ass back to 5150 and get to work. Sam seems to want to keep his solo career and do VH whenever he feels like it or has nothing else to do. VH deserves better than what Sam is offering at this point in the game.

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Granted, I'm not a Sammy lover, but shouldn't talk of a free concert be accompanied by dates, locations, and times. I've never heard somebody say they wanted to give a free show- they usually announce that they are putting on an actual free show.

Until it's a reality, he should keep his trap shut.

good luck, Sam. don't forget roadies need to be paid, and the venues want their money, and the venue requires insurance...

remember when Pearl Jam tried to tour without selling tickets through Ticketmaster? i see this ending up the same way...a failure.

Maybe Pearl Jam hasn't had the commercial success in years, but they have a shitload of integrity. They stuck to their guns. And I don't even like their music.

You get what you pay for.

The idea of a free show is pretty cool, it happening is a whole other thing. In a recent Rolling Stone interview, Tom Petty talked about keeping ticket prices affordable and that he couldn't go out onstage knowing people paid $200 to see him.

I've got no issues with paying $25-$50 for a great rock and roll show......free could be better, but I'd be concerned that corners would be cut, where?.....I have no idea and I have no idea how it would affect me, but I'm thinking there's a catch somewhere.

If I'm Sam, I play small clubs and theaters and charge $30 for 2 hours of rock and roll......everybody wins.

So now free shows aren't cool? Ok gotcha. LOL.

There's just no winning with some of you.

Thanks for saving me the keystrokes...:)

Seriously people, in todays age of $100+ ticket prices it's nice to hear of somebody putting on a quality rock show for $10, much less for free. Sounds like for a lot of you it's just something else to bitch about with Hagar. So the guy has money...and lots of it, who cares!! If he puts on a free show, who does it benefit? US...you and I, the fans of VH/Sammy Hagar. Stop being so f*cking critical and judgemental about these people who have long since paid their dues entertaining us for decades. Roth, Hagar, Eddie, who gives a shit. They don't owe us the fans anything, and we should be grateful SOME of them continue to go out on the road and entertain us. Sounds like more of you are just pissed the guy can afford to do a free concert.

Still waiting for that free show he promised when he got rained out in Cave Creek.

I have been a Sammy fan for a long time been to 25 sammy shows and 10 VH shows in 2004 and about 20 other VH shows before that.

After watching the Birthday Bash DVD the other night (which I was at both nights) I just thought if Sam wants to play with a band like the Wabo's who are incredibly overated muscians by the fans that seem to buy into the tequila lifestyle, then sam should just play with them and not VanHalen.

VanHalen makes Sam look great! but when he plays with the Wabo's he's just looks like an old drunk guy in bad beach clothes. In this case he should play for free, because it isn't worth a dime anymore.

Sam likes the waboritas because he can control it and everyone involved in it, it's all his way or your out. you should see the way Sam treats the wabo's during soundcheck.

I think Sam has changed the most over the past few years, going from a pretty laid back guy to a control freak egomaniac. the fact that he is even concerned, that he have enough cash in is pocket to go play for free with a big production really means as soon as I have mine, i'll give you yours. which tells me that he's thinking more about the $$Money$$ than the music. He is constantly commenting about this free concert thing because he has so much money, which is what he apparently likes to brag about nowadays.

I say good for you sam you got alot of money but you lost your soul along the way, go find it!! because at one point in time you were a Kickass musician and a hell of a human being, but now all you are is a giant bottle of tequila full of money.

Say what you want about ed's so-called sloppy playing but sam was only at 1 soundcheck last year, while the other three members showed up every day. and to me Ed sure seemed to be having a whole lot o' fun. while sammy just went thru the motions.

SAM you been using the same schtick about free shows for years now, not everyone is drunk all the time and is under your tequila laden spell. Go challenge yourself Sam, challenge yourself like you did before, when you had a hard time with the lyrics but somehow you overcame it.

Go get pissed off like when you wrote "little white lies" go get some pussy, find some damn inspiration besides being suprised that you can still get a a chubby in the morning while talking to your mom and writing a song about it. But most of all go find your soul,

I sure miss the days that it was about the music.


WOW!!!!! As big as a fan as I am of all parties, I do believe there to be much truth in what you said.

Let me preface this by saying that I am not a Sammy basher and actually have enjoyed all eras of Van Halen, but...


Sammy Hagar is no longer a musician in the way that Eddie Van Halen, Robert Plant, Jeff Beck are when it comes to the approach of their craft. As much negative press Eddie has received it is the general concensus that he is the genius behind the music that is Van Halen. If he wants to take two years to record an album with his band then he should be entitled. We all know that it would be worth the wait except for Mr. Hagar who thinks that phoning in lyrics is enough work to contribute to such a legendary band.

My point is, if Sammy Hagar had put as much effort into working with Van Halen as he has marketing his Cabo Wabo brand then Van Halen would probably be in a better place right now.

Sammy Hagar has become a business man primarily marketing his tequila to the frat boy set (don't get me wrong, I like the Cabo; it's good stuff) by way of his music. Sure he has his long time fan base and also some of us who followed him after his departure from Van Halen (although after ten 13 I probably will stop buying his albums unless they offer something more musically), but I for one have gotten fed up with the pimping of the tequila at every show and refuse to attend any more of his concerts (last show I attended was during the tour he did with Diamond Dave).

This latest bit about free shows and all the shit he has been talking about Van Halen is just a way to bring attention to the fact that he is currently touring and wants to sell tickets so he can sell his tequila. So if everyone is a good fan and comes to the shows and buys the tequila, then maybe in a couple of years you won't have to pay for this ongoing Cabo Wabo tequila concert commercial.

From a monetary standpoint it seems impossible that the free concert tour would actually come to fruition. Is he really going to pay for renting out all the halls, security and staff, travel, crew, etc, etc? I could see pulling off one or two free shows every once in a while, but I am very skeptical unless he is approaching Bill Gates' level of fortune. I think this is just more BS he is hoping his fans will fall for.

At this point, I just hope that Van Halen can regroup and realize that they are the force behind the music. They can be successfull with Dave, Sammy and to a lesser degree with Gary; however, I would still support them if they decide to show the world their musicianship as a power trio and give the vocals a break for a while until someone realizes who the captain of the ship truly is.


WOW!!! Another great post...what got into the water supply? :)

People moan about free shows? :wtf:

I swear, now I really have seen everything here. :D

You fuckers continually trip me the fuck out!! :thumb:


Sucker born every minute...

Well we all know who the new album ISN'T with.

True and funny, good call.

Sounds like more of you are just pissed the guy can afford to do a free concert.

it's not that...i just think he's talking out of his ass. he may be well enough off to play for free, but everyone else is gonna have their hand out, wanting their cut lke they always get. i guarantee that some venue manager or local union guy or merch guy is scoffing at the idea of a whole tour being run for free.

Giving free shows isn't self serving. Saying "he's close to being able to give free shows in a year or two" is self serving. It's the difference between someone saying they would love to volunteer for the peace corps and someone who actually does it. Or someone who would love to make a donation to a charity and someone who does it. If one day Sammy stops charging for his shows, I'll gladly eat every word I say. Untill then it's just empty talk.

Thats right my friend...there is no such thing as a free lunch.

Yeah, it's all a vast tequila-inspired conspiracy. Very soon there will be black helicopters flying over your hometown with the Cabo Wabo logo etched on their tails. They'll be watching. :rolleyes:

I haven't seen anyone bitching about a free show. "Oh man, I want to pay..." That's not what anyone is saying.

What people are saying is that it's not gonna happen. Sammy likes to talk. He might want to do a free tour, but what are the odds? Not too good.

Still waiting for that free show he promised when he got rained out in Cave Creek.


Actions speak louder than words!

Well, then wait 2 years like he said. At least the guy sits down and talks to people.

I know Sammy has done a couple of free shows here (well "free" to the public, with the radio station flippin the bill for the whole thing...)

I'd rather pay to see him than go to a free show, one thing I noticed about free concerts to the general public tends to bring out more of the riff raff if you know what I mean.

But him doing "free" shows on his own coin???? Who knows, if he did it would probably only be St. Louis :irked:


I wouldn't get my hopes up on anything free coming our way but I do hold out hope for another show in Dallas.....free or not.

Well, then wait 2 years like he said.


I think thats what he is counting on...Cave Creek was when?

I own everything Sam's ever done, and even I am getting a little tired of all
the statements. Sam's a cool guy. He's a pretty normal guy...he's of normal inteligence. I think sometimes he could use better PR people. His comments lately are annoying even his die-hard fans...that's a problem.

As a true red-head...I have four simple requests of Sam:

1. Write an entire album of material (either solo or with VH) and don't use the word - Love. Not in a title...not in a line of a song...I don't want to hear even an inference.

2. Stop writing about pussy and dope.

3. Stop stopping your concerts with the call "Waitress"...just play damn it...or even talk...I usually think you are funny and entertaining when you speak during your concerts.

4. Rejoin Van Halen and make a record.

I own everything Sam's ever done, and even I am getting a little tired of all
the statements. Sam's a cool guy. He's a pretty normal guy...he's of normal inteligence. I think sometimes he could use better PR people. His comments lately are annoying even his die-hard fans...that's a problem.

As a true red-head...I have four simple requests of Sam:

1. Write an entire album of material (either solo or with VH) and don't use the word - Love. Not in a title...not in a line of a song...I don't want to hear even an inference.

2. Stop writing about pussy and dope.

3. Stop stopping your concerts with the call "Waitress"...just play damn it...or even talk...I usually think you are funny and entertaining when you speak during your concerts.

4. Rejoin Van Halen and make a record.


Another fine post!

I own everything Sam's ever done, and even I am getting a little tired of all
the statements. Sam's a cool guy. He's a pretty normal guy...he's of normal inteligence. I think sometimes he could use better PR people. His comments lately are annoying even his die-hard fans...that's a problem.

As a true red-head...I have four simple requests of Sam:

1. Write an entire album of material (either solo or with VH) and don't use the word - Love. Not in a title...not in a line of a song...I don't want to hear even an inference.

2. Stop writing about pussy and dope.

3. Stop stopping your concerts with the call "Waitress"...just play damn it...or even talk...I usually think you are funny and entertaining when you speak during your concerts.

4. Rejoin Van Halen and make a record.

I don't demand anything from any of these guys. If I don't like something, it's my problem. As long as there is something, I can deal with it because it's still usually better than anything else out there.

I don't demand anything from any of these guys. If I don't like something, it's my problem. As long as there is something, I can deal with it because it's still usually better than anything else out there.

Great point, TOOW...I'll still take a Sammy show, waitresses and all, or a new Sammy release with Love in the title and love in all the songs, over nothing...that's for sure...It's just annoying sometimes..I expect a lot from Sammy...he's more capable than people give him credit for...he should know his statements to the press are making him border on over-exposed..and a little over the top...it's too much...Sam should know it..he's wiser than this...and when he wants to be a damn good song-writer.

Hagar's "The Tequila Made Me Do It Tour" kicks off this Saturday (August 6) in Independence Township, Michigan. Besides music from Hagar with both THE WABORITAS and MONTROSE, the shows will also feature a parking lot tailgate party with beach volleyball, auto shows, a "Sammy-oke" karaoke stage, Mariachi bands, and photo ops with donkeys wearing sombreros.
:mad: There's that "word" again...

But him doing "free" shows on his own coin???? Who knows, if he did it would probably only be St. Louis :irked:




A couple of years ago, Sammy stood on the stage in St. Louis and proclaimed that his next time through, he was going to do a free show under the Arch, and he predicted an attendance of 300,000 at said free show.

Since that time, my wife and I have spent roughly $900.00 on tickets to see the two Van Halen shows in St. Louis, and the last Sammy show here too. Granted, that accounts for some 4 Star packages and one show in the Golden Rings, but still...we're waiting for that free gig. And waiting. Any time now, really.

Say Sam, instead of treating your fans to a free tour in maybe 2-3 years, how about locking yourself into 5150 for a whole month at a time? You know, actually commit some time, thought and dedication into writing some masterful lyrics. Yeah, yeah, we know Ed's a cocksucker to work with, but that'll be part of the sacrifice. In fact, someday you'll be able to sit around the campfire down on the beach in Cabo and brag to your grandkids what a struggle working with Ed was. And when little Tommy looks into your eyes and asks that question: "Ya, but Grandpa, what about the free tour I heard everyone talk about?" you can say: "Well Tommy, I thought some new quality music was more important!"

I can't say I'm surprised by the reactions in this thread because it's an easy shot at Sammy, but I still have to laugh. If the guy can pull off doing free shows, then what's the problem? If he can't then oh well, what's the big deal, Sam will come up with some excuse blaming someone else and then we can rip on him a little more :p

Just seems little unfair to shoot him down before he even has a chance to give this idea a try.

I can see him doing the free shows...but at his clubs. Where you will end up paying him anyway through cover charges and drinks and buying your official Wabo-rrific t-shirts and drink cozys. :p

I'd say scrap all this and do number 4. on extreme red roth's list earlier in this thread :cool:

Give the guy a fucking break. A least wait until wait he says actually becomes a lie before calling him a liar. Give him the benefit of the doubt for heaven's sake.

Giving free shows isn't self serving. Saying "he's close to being able to give free shows in a year or two" is self serving. It's the difference between someone saying they would love to volunteer for the peace corps and someone who actually does it. Or someone who would love to make a donation to a charity and someone who does it. If one day Sammy stops charging for his shows, I'll gladly eat every word I say. Untill then it's just empty talk.

Agreed. I do not begrudge Sammy being able to financially support a free concert(s). I am happy for anyone's success in life especially when they have paid their dues for as long as Sammy. But I'm much more admiring of someone whose actions speak louder than their words. Perhaps I'm a bit jaded from life in general of people who talk a good game and those who play one. I want to think the best of someone and that this isn't just for publicty or to make him look like a good guy but you never know.

I would rather pay $100 for a VH show with Sammy then 100 free shows with the Waborita's.

I don't give a flying f*ck about his or Dave's solo career. I come to this site because of the band VH.

I used to like Sammy but he is no different than a politician. Just throwing out lies to pacify the masses.

He is starting to get feedback that VH fans are getting fed up with him and is going into damage control. Blame everybody else and make empty promises.

I

I used to like Sammy but he is no different than a politician. Just throwing out lies to pacify the masses.

He is starting to get feedback that VH fans are getting fed up with him and is going into damage control. Blame everybody else and make empty promises.

Preach on!
That sums it all up perfectly the dude has really gone over the edge:thumb:

Preach on!
That sums it all up perfectly the dude has really gone over the edge:thumb:


Um, can anybody tell me what he (Hagar) has been running his mouth about lately? I think I missed the boat here. Is that the fact he said Eddie's a drunk, washed up legend who's impossible to work with? Or is it just this free concert stuff? I'm losing track of why people are upset with the guy. And can somebody please produce a new argument against the guy other than "I don't like songs with the word 'love' in them". Which is really funny because nobody ever says why they don’t like those songs.

Um, can anybody tell me what he (Hagar) has been running his mouth about lately? I think I missed the boat here. Is that the fact he said Eddie's a drunk, washed up legend who's impossible to work with? Or is it just this free concert stuff? I'm losing track of why people are upset with the guy. And can somebody please produce a new argument against the guy other than "I don't like songs with the word 'love' in them". Which is really funny because nobody ever says why they don’t like those songs.

Some people just don't like Sammy, so whatever he says or does, the bitching starts.

How the free-shows thing is a "lie" already is a mystery to me since he clearly said it was a year or two away providing his other business ventures continue to grow at this rate.

Personally, I would have kept it quiet until it was ready to actually happen, but I don't doubt that he WANTS to do this.

Um, can anybody tell me what he (Hagar) has been running his mouth about lately? I think I missed the boat here. Is that the fact he said Eddie's a drunk, washed up legend who's impossible to work with? Or is it just this free concert stuff? I'm losing track of why people are upset with the guy. And can somebody please produce a new argument against the guy other than "I don't like songs with the word 'love' in them". Which is really funny because nobody ever says why they don’t like those songs.

I've been critical of Sammy in this thread but I'm not upset with the guy. I like Sammy and liked what he did in VH. I just think he can come off as a bit of a blowhard and he goes over the edge in trying to put himself off as the "good guy", and like him or not, I'll knock him for it. When I see or hear Ed acting like a drunken lunatic or Dave jerking off a JD bottle like an overaged buffoon, I call them on those things too. Having a critical opinion of something someone does or says doesn't necessarily mean you don't like the guy.

man, ed must be steaming about how much moola sammy makes on tequila and cabo wabo franchises!
truth is, ed never had the business sense or drive to make it work, his gift is music.

So ed, you got enough money and can make lots more with less headachers...get writin and recordin and get it to us fans already..the hell w/ Sam if he doesnt want to do it !!

Um, can anybody tell me what he (Hagar) has been running his mouth about lately? I think I missed the boat here. Is that the fact he said Eddie's a drunk, washed up legend who's impossible to work with? Or is it just this free concert stuff? I'm losing track of why people are upset with the guy. And can somebody please produce a new argument against the guy other than "I don't like songs with the word 'love' in them". Which is really funny because nobody ever says why they don’t like those songs.


Ziggysmalls 10 reasons why he does not like Sammy anymore

10. Going on record last year saying that doing the three songs were a breeze. Eddie had about 10 CD's worth of material and Sammy picked the first three songs. Had a blast doing them. Did not want to do an album because he wanted to tour. Fast forward to now and he says it was Eddie who prevented them from doing a full album. Making three songs was like doing 10 albums or whatever he said. No way they could have done a full album.

9. Blaming VH for high ticket prices. VH went with Sammy's manager of the last 10 years. The band VH decided to do the Golden Circle with the backstage events with Sammy's manager. However Sammy is saying he had no part with it even though his hand picked manager would have been the one dotting the i's and crossing the t's. However Saint Sammy is absolved of all blame. He blames Ray Danniels for screwing up VH but when the tables are turned on his manager he blames the brothers.

8. Eddie went on the air saying he is ready to make music. Sammy decides that going on tour with the Waborita's is better.

7. While complaining about the ticket prices, he did not do his end of the bargain. Never was at soundcheck's and when the show was on, decided that signing autographs for 100 people is worth more than singing to 12,000 people.

6. Going on record saying that the set list was crappy and wanted to change it. However when Eddie was with Gary, you see all this old DLR era material resurface. During soundcheck you hear Running with the Devil and I'm the One. When Eddie plays Hot for Teacher at the Staples Center, Sammy freaks out. I don't think Eddie is the one preventing them from playing other songs.

5. He is a whore. When I see a show, I want to hear music. I don't want to hear politics or have somebody pimping their product. Music. However that guy promotes everything he sells and to me that is better left to TV Advertisments.

4. Going in public and saying that Eddie has a alcohol problem. Bands are supposed to keep dirt in private. It was a shock when DLR left to hear of the tensions of the band members. However they kept it quiet even as 25 year olds. He loves to gossip and spread the dirt when a mic is in his face. A 60 year old should know better.

3. Saying he has more fun playing with his Waborita's. Well then you should quit right now because otherwise you are doing it for the money and then I guess my #5 reason is wrong. You are not a whore, you are a prostitute.

2. Always trying to portray himself as a cool guy when you can probably ask his ex-wives what he is. Yeah Eddie has gone through many lead singers however at least he was able to keep a marriage together for about 20 years. Sammy is a normal person who is screwed up just like everybody else. He could be a great guy in public but a prick in private. I hate people who always pander to the crowd to make them look like Mother Theresa.

1. Going on record saying that Alex cannot stand to be around Eddie anymore. He just does because he is his brother. That is between Alex and Eddie. If its true leave them to discuss it. I am sure that Sammy does not want family problems surfacing in public. That was the last straw with me and Sammy. He should publically apologize.

There I don't think I used the word "love" in any of my comments.

I will be at the show on Saturday, and I cannot wait to see the sombrero-wearing donkeys! LOL!!! Sign me up for a Waborita, as well. I will be sure to take my digital, and I will share.

Sammy's tickets are pretty cheap. Lawn seats were going for $7, and pavillion for $15 or something. Of course, once TicketBastard got a hold of them, it cost me just over $60 for two pavillion seats. *sigh*

So what if Sammy wants to make concerts free!? Why does that make him a bad guy? Sounds like a fine plan to me. If you've heard it in another interview, it just means the interviewers are always asking him the same questions! DUH!

Simmer down. Go have some fun.

Shari

Tried to edit, but it was too late...

OK - now that I've read all five pages of this thread, SHEESH! People have valid gripes with Sammy.

vhin04 said "Sam needs to shut up and then decide if he's going to be in VH or not. If not, then fine, say so. If he is, then he needs to get his ass back to 5150 and get to work. Sam seems to want to keep his solo career and do VH whenever he feels like it or has nothing else to do. VH deserves better than what Sam is offering at this point in the game."

I will agree with that. I would MUCH rather be seeing Van Halen on Saturday than Sammy and some donkeys in the parking lot. But that will be fun anyway! I'll take what I can get.

Shari

Even though Sammy says alot of stupid stuff , you have to admit he is pretty good at marketing himself...........People are just getting a little tired of the self promotion at 60 years old....Alot of people have thrown in the towel on VH so bringing that up all the time is old too...


He still puts on a pretty good show and definitely gives a good effort when he is on stage.....Thats all alot of the fans want..........

I think it is interesting that some St Louis people are slamming him.....If that doesnt get his attention what will?????.........

Sammy is...well...ah, fuck it...:rolleyes:

Sammy is...well...ah, fuck it...:rolleyes:

:funny:

(whispering) The secret word today is.....



....CLUSTERFUCK.

Ziggysmalls 10 reasons why he does not like Sammy anymore

10. Going on record last year saying that doing the three songs were a breeze. Eddie had about 10 CD's worth of material and Sammy picked the first three songs. Had a blast doing them. Did not want to do an album because he wanted to tour. Fast forward to now and he says it was Eddie who prevented them from doing a full album. Making three songs was like doing 10 albums or whatever he said. No way they could have done a full album.

9. Blaming VH for high ticket prices. VH went with Sammy's manager of the last 10 years. The band VH decided to do the Golden Circle with the backstage events with Sammy's manager. However Sammy is saying he had no part with it even though his hand picked manager would have been the one dotting the i's and crossing the t's. However Saint Sammy is absolved of all blame. He blames Ray Danniels for screwing up VH but when the tables are turned on his manager he blames the brothers.

8. Eddie went on the air saying he is ready to make music. Sammy decides that going on tour with the Waborita's is better.

7. While complaining about the ticket prices, he did not do his end of the bargain. Never was at soundcheck's and when the show was on, decided that signing autographs for 100 people is worth more than singing to 12,000 people.

6. Going on record saying that the set list was crappy and wanted to change it. However when Eddie was with Gary, you see all this old DLR era material resurface. During soundcheck you hear Running with the Devil and I'm the One. When Eddie plays Hot for Teacher at the Staples Center, Sammy freaks out. I don't think Eddie is the one preventing them from playing other songs.

5. He is a whore. When I see a show, I want to hear music. I don't want to hear politics or have somebody pimping their product. Music. However that guy promotes everything he sells and to me that is better left to TV Advertisments.

4. Going in public and saying that Eddie has a alcohol problem. Bands are supposed to keep dirt in private. It was a shock when DLR left to hear of the tensions of the band members. However they kept it quiet even as 25 year olds. He loves to gossip and spread the dirt when a mic is in his face. A 60 year old should know better.

3. Saying he has more fun playing with his Waborita's. Well then you should quit right now because otherwise you are doing it for the money and then I guess my #5 reason is wrong. You are not a whore, you are a prostitute.

2. Always trying to portray himself as a cool guy when you can probably ask his ex-wives what he is. Yeah Eddie has gone through many lead singers however at least he was able to keep a marriage together for about 20 years. Sammy is a normal person who is screwed up just like everybody else. He could be a great guy in public but a prick in private. I hate people who always pander to the crowd to make them look like Mother Theresa.

1. Going on record saying that Alex cannot stand to be around Eddie anymore. He just does because he is his brother. That is between Alex and Eddie. If its true leave them to discuss it. I am sure that Sammy does not want family problems surfacing in public. That was the last straw with me and Sammy. He should publically apologize.

There I don't think I used the word "love" in any of my comments.


pay the man, Shirley.

one of them thar reasons is bs...Sammy was married to Betsy for almost as long as Ed was married to val, he only has one ex "wife" not wives...kinda nit picky but what the hell

one of them thar reasons is bs...Sammy was married to Betsy for almost as long as Ed was married to val, he only has one ex "wife" not wives...kinda nit picky but what the hell

Hey who's nitpickin around here??? :D

BTW - Good one VS!!! :thumb:

Care to give us a hint on tomorrow's secret word?? :sssh:

It starts with the letter 'W.' Tune in tomorrow. ;)

It starts with the letter 'W.' Tune in tomorrow. ;)

:funny:

Now I gotta think real hard and I'm here at work where that's not allowed!!! :irked:

I'll be tuned up :drunk: (I mean in!!) tomorrow then. :thumb:

:funny:

(whispering) The secret word today is.....



....CLUSTERFUCK.

Threads of this nature are like a sore tooth...

Let me preface this by saying that I am not a Sammy basher and actually have enjoyed all eras of Van Halen, but...


Sammy Hagar is no longer a musician in the way that Eddie Van Halen, Robert Plant, Jeff Beck are when it comes to the approach of their craft. As much negative press Eddie has received it is the general concensus that he is the genius behind the music that is Van Halen. If he wants to take two years to record an album with his band then he should be entitled. We all know that it would be worth the wait except for Mr. Hagar who thinks that phoning in lyrics is enough work to contribute to such a legendary band.

My point is, if Sammy Hagar had put as much effort into working with Van Halen as he has marketing his Cabo Wabo brand then Van Halen would probably be in a better place right now.

Sammy Hagar has become a business man primarily marketing his tequila to the frat boy set (don't get me wrong, I like the Cabo; it's good stuff) by way of his music. Sure he has his long time fan base and also some of us who followed him after his departure from Van Halen (although after ten 13 I probably will stop buying his albums unless they offer something more musically), but I for one have gotten fed up with the pimping of the tequila at every show and refuse to attend any more of his concerts (last show I attended was during the tour he did with Diamond Dave).

This latest bit about free shows and all the shit he has been talking about Van Halen is just a way to bring attention to the fact that he is currently touring and wants to sell tickets so he can sell his tequila. So if everyone is a good fan and comes to the shows and buys the tequila, then maybe in a couple of years you won't have to pay for this ongoing Cabo Wabo tequila concert commercial.

From a monetary standpoint it seems impossible that the free concert tour would actually come to fruition. Is he really going to pay for renting out all the halls, security and staff, travel, crew, etc, etc? I could see pulling off one or two free shows every once in a while, but I am very skeptical unless he is approaching Bill Gates' level of fortune. I think this is just more BS he is hoping his fans will fall for.

At this point, I just hope that Van Halen can regroup and realize that they are the force behind the music. They can be successfull with Dave, Sammy and to a lesser degree with Gary; however, I would still support them if they decide to show the world their musicianship as a power trio and give the vocals a break for a while until someone realizes who the captain of the ship truly is.

Agreed!!

Ziggysmalls 10 reasons why he does not like Sammy anymore

10. Going on record last year saying that doing the three songs were a breeze. Eddie had about 10 CD's worth of material and Sammy picked the first three songs. Had a blast doing them. Did not want to do an album because he wanted to tour. Fast forward to now and he says it was Eddie who prevented them from doing a full album. Making three songs was like doing 10 albums or whatever he said. No way they could have done a full album.

9. Blaming VH for high ticket prices. VH went with Sammy's manager of the last 10 years. The band VH decided to do the Golden Circle with the backstage events with Sammy's manager. However Sammy is saying he had no part with it even though his hand picked manager would have been the one dotting the i's and crossing the t's. However Saint Sammy is absolved of all blame. He blames Ray Danniels for screwing up VH but when the tables are turned on his manager he blames the brothers.

8. Eddie went on the air saying he is ready to make music. Sammy decides that going on tour with the Waborita's is better.

7. While complaining about the ticket prices, he did not do his end of the bargain. Never was at soundcheck's and when the show was on, decided that signing autographs for 100 people is worth more than singing to 12,000 people.

6. Going on record saying that the set list was crappy and wanted to change it. However when Eddie was with Gary, you see all this old DLR era material resurface. During soundcheck you hear Running with the Devil and I'm the One. When Eddie plays Hot for Teacher at the Staples Center, Sammy freaks out. I don't think Eddie is the one preventing them from playing other songs.

5. He is a whore. When I see a show, I want to hear music. I don't want to hear politics or have somebody pimping their product. Music. However that guy promotes everything he sells and to me that is better left to TV Advertisments.

4. Going in public and saying that Eddie has a alcohol problem. Bands are supposed to keep dirt in private. It was a shock when DLR left to hear of the tensions of the band members. However they kept it quiet even as 25 year olds. He loves to gossip and spread the dirt when a mic is in his face. A 60 year old should know better.

3. Saying he has more fun playing with his Waborita's. Well then you should quit right now because otherwise you are doing it for the money and then I guess my #5 reason is wrong. You are not a whore, you are a prostitute.

2. Always trying to portray himself as a cool guy when you can probably ask his ex-wives what he is. Yeah Eddie has gone through many lead singers however at least he was able to keep a marriage together for about 20 years. Sammy is a normal person who is screwed up just like everybody else. He could be a great guy in public but a prick in private. I hate people who always pander to the crowd to make them look like Mother Theresa.

1. Going on record saying that Alex cannot stand to be around Eddie anymore. He just does because he is his brother. That is between Alex and Eddie. If its true leave them to discuss it. I am sure that Sammy does not want family problems surfacing in public. That was the last straw with me and Sammy. He should publically apologize.

There I don't think I used the word "love" in any of my comments.

Agreed!! Again, another great post! Sammy needs to shut up... & for anyone thinking that I (or others) hate him: we love him, but as the Van Halen lead singer, not as a tequila promoter, VH´s "dirty laundry..I´m the good guy.. they´re this & that" spokesman.

PS: This is Van Halen Forum....

Funny how so many people apparently accepted the Silence is Golden limbo of the last six years.

Ziggysmalls 10 reasons why he does not like Sammy anymore

10. Going on record last year saying that doing the three songs were a breeze. Eddie had about 10 CD's worth of material and Sammy picked the first three songs. Had a blast doing them. Did not want to do an album because he wanted to tour. Fast forward to now and he says it was Eddie who prevented them from doing a full album. Making three songs was like doing 10 albums or whatever he said. No way they could have done a full album.

9. Blaming VH for high ticket prices. VH went with Sammy's manager of the last 10 years. The band VH decided to do the Golden Circle with the backstage events with Sammy's manager. However Sammy is saying he had no part with it even though his hand picked manager would have been the one dotting the i's and crossing the t's. However Saint Sammy is absolved of all blame. He blames Ray Danniels for screwing up VH but when the tables are turned on his manager he blames the brothers.

8. Eddie went on the air saying he is ready to make music. Sammy decides that going on tour with the Waborita's is better.

7. While complaining about the ticket prices, he did not do his end of the bargain. Never was at soundcheck's and when the show was on, decided that signing autographs for 100 people is worth more than singing to 12,000 people.

6. Going on record saying that the set list was crappy and wanted to change it. However when Eddie was with Gary, you see all this old DLR era material resurface. During soundcheck you hear Running with the Devil and I'm the One. When Eddie plays Hot for Teacher at the Staples Center, Sammy freaks out. I don't think Eddie is the one preventing them from playing other songs.

5. He is a whore. When I see a show, I want to hear music. I don't want to hear politics or have somebody pimping their product. Music. However that guy promotes everything he sells and to me that is better left to TV Advertisments.

4. Going in public and saying that Eddie has a alcohol problem. Bands are supposed to keep dirt in private. It was a shock when DLR left to hear of the tensions of the band members. However they kept it quiet even as 25 year olds. He loves to gossip and spread the dirt when a mic is in his face. A 60 year old should know better.

3. Saying he has more fun playing with his Waborita's. Well then you should quit right now because otherwise you are doing it for the money and then I guess my #5 reason is wrong. You are not a whore, you are a prostitute.

2. Always trying to portray himself as a cool guy when you can probably ask his ex-wives what he is. Yeah Eddie has gone through many lead singers however at least he was able to keep a marriage together for about 20 years. Sammy is a normal person who is screwed up just like everybody else. He could be a great guy in public but a prick in private. I hate people who always pander to the crowd to make them look like Mother Theresa.

1. Going on record saying that Alex cannot stand to be around Eddie anymore. He just does because he is his brother. That is between Alex and Eddie. If its true leave them to discuss it. I am sure that Sammy does not want family problems surfacing in public. That was the last straw with me and Sammy. He should publically apologize.

There I don't think I used the word "love" in any of my comments.


I AGREE 100%
YOU FORGOT TO SAY THAT MR. HAGAR SAID "EDDIE IS MISERABLE AND WANTS TO MAKE EVERYONE MISERABLE"
Come on Sam, Eddie was having a blast on stage last year, he looked great, you by the way seemed LIKE YOU HAD PRACTIECED every move. MISERABLE, a miserable person, is not happy anywhere and Eddie had a great time on stage.

I forgot about that one. However I guess you can lump it into reason number 4.

Truth of the matter is that its looking more and more likely that Sam used VH for this last tour.

Its a shame because I really used to love the guy but now I won't even buy any remasters of his era.

sam just makes me shake my head now..he's everywhere

The free shows sound like a pipe dream but then again... how many artists offer photo-ops with jackasses wearing sombreros???

sam just makes me shake my head now..he's everywhere

Keep in mind, this is another "Launch Radio Networks" report, same as the last few interviews w/ Sammy.
I really think that it's from one interview, but they (Launch Radio Networks ) are milking it by releasing portions at a time. They did it with Motley Crue when their reunion was announced last Dec.

It starts with the letter 'W.' Tune in tomorrow. ;)



Really? I thought it was redundant... ;)

Really? I thought it was redundant... ;)


No, that was YESTERDAY's secret word. Today was clusterfuck. Tomorrow will be... :confused: :cool: :D ;)

No, that was YESTERDAY's secret word. Today was clusterfuck. Tomorrow will be... :confused: :cool: :D ;)

Ha Ha
:thumb:

I know Sammy has done a couple of free shows here (well "free" to the public, with the radio station flippin the bill for the whole thing...)

I'd rather pay to see him than go to a free show, one thing I noticed about free concerts to the general public tends to bring out more of the riff raff if you know what I mean.

But him doing "free" shows on his own coin???? Who knows, if he did it would probably only be St. Louis :irked:


I wouldn't get my hopes up on anything free coming our way but I do hold out hope for another show in Dallas.....free or not.


He did a free show in downtown San Francisco. August 21st, 2003. I was THERE! :) They gave him an award and officially named that day as 'Sammy Hagar Day' in the city of San Fran !
At that show, he said he wanted to do it there, every year on the same date, for free, but I guess the SF big-wigs pulled the plug on it....or maybe THEY wanted to see how THEY could make money on it and Sam said NO. Not sure what happened with that. It was a VERY cool gig tho! Right out on the Embarcadero!

Also, don't forget the FREE show he did in NY to raise awareness for the fire stations that were slated to be closed...they wound up NOT closing them!
JA :)

one of them thar reasons is bs...Sammy was married to Betsy for almost as long as Ed was married to val, he only has one ex "wife" not wives...kinda nit picky but what the hell

I think more than one are BS, but thanks man...you saved me some words on the ex-wife deal there. :D
JA :)

Ziggysmalls 10 reasons why he does not like Sammy anymore

10. Going on record last year saying that doing the three songs were a breeze. Eddie had about 10 CD's worth of material and Sammy picked the first three songs. Had a blast doing them. Did not want to do an album because he wanted to tour. Fast forward to now and he says it was Eddie who prevented them from doing a full album. Making three songs was like doing 10 albums or whatever he said. No way they could have done a full album.

9. Blaming VH for high ticket prices. VH went with Sammy's manager of the last 10 years. The band VH decided to do the Golden Circle with the backstage events with Sammy's manager. However Sammy is saying he had no part with it even though his hand picked manager would have been the one dotting the i's and crossing the t's. However Saint Sammy is absolved of all blame. He blames Ray Danniels for screwing up VH but when the tables are turned on his manager he blames the brothers.

8. Eddie went on the air saying he is ready to make music. Sammy decides that going on tour with the Waborita's is better.

7. While complaining about the ticket prices, he did not do his end of the bargain. Never was at soundcheck's and when the show was on, decided that signing autographs for 100 people is worth more than singing to 12,000 people.

6. Going on record saying that the set list was crappy and wanted to change it. However when Eddie was with Gary, you see all this old DLR era material resurface. During soundcheck you hear Running with the Devil and I'm the One. When Eddie plays Hot for Teacher at the Staples Center, Sammy freaks out. I don't think Eddie is the one preventing them from playing other songs.

5. He is a whore. When I see a show, I want to hear music. I don't want to hear politics or have somebody pimping their product. Music. However that guy promotes everything he sells and to me that is better left to TV Advertisments.

4. Going in public and saying that Eddie has a alcohol problem. Bands are supposed to keep dirt in private. It was a shock when DLR left to hear of the tensions of the band members. However they kept it quiet even as 25 year olds. He loves to gossip and spread the dirt when a mic is in his face. A 60 year old should know better.

3. Saying he has more fun playing with his Waborita's. Well then you should quit right now because otherwise you are doing it for the money and then I guess my #5 reason is wrong. You are not a whore, you are a prostitute.

2. Always trying to portray himself as a cool guy when you can probably ask his ex-wives what he is. Yeah Eddie has gone through many lead singers however at least he was able to keep a marriage together for about 20 years. Sammy is a normal person who is screwed up just like everybody else. He could be a great guy in public but a prick in private. I hate people who always pander to the crowd to make them look like Mother Theresa.

1. Going on record saying that Alex cannot stand to be around Eddie anymore. He just does because he is his brother. That is between Alex and Eddie. If its true leave them to discuss it. I am sure that Sammy does not want family problems surfacing in public. That was the last straw with me and Sammy. He should publically apologize.

There I don't think I used the word "love" in any of my comments.

Amen to all that Ziggy. Except Sam was only married to one woman besides Kari (but in the grand scheme of what you are trying to say, I get the point).

Nice list. I have to say I agree with just about all of it.

The free shows sound like a pipe dream but then again... how many artists offer photo-ops with jackasses wearing sombreros???

Yup, I'm closing my eyes right now and seeing a framed picture in my house of this one. Just bought tickets this morning to DTE. 6 tickets, $60 total. Like Hagar or not, blame him for selling out to his tequila or not, for $10 he's bringing (at least by the looks of it) one fun Saturday afternoon/evening to the Motor City (ok the very north suburbs of the Motor City). Shit, to me $10 for an afternoon of fun is free!!
I like Cabo Wabo tequila, and I don't care to see a 50 year old version of Van Halen anymore. I think that makes my opinion a little bit different than a lot of you. I can accept the fact that Van Halen is done and will never be the biggest band in the world again. Not with Dave, and not with Sam. Probably not even with both at the same time. If you were Hagar, and owned one of the best premium liquors in the world, and you can use your music to promote it....wouldn't you do the same thing? If any one of us were in the same position, we would market it the same way. So that's part of the reason I could care less if he rips on EVH for being a miserable human being...talks about how hard the 2004 tour was...or talks about putting on free shows. It's not our fault Eddie's screwed up in the head, and if he doesn't want to put music out...oh well. If I never hear Eddie play another song I'm pretty sure I'll survive. Yup, I just checked and there's 30 years of stuff for me to fall back on if I don't hear anything new.

Im pretty sure I will survive without going to watch the Cabo infomercial too..............Getting my picture taken on a donkey though, I may not be able to pass that up............

I'm headed to the Army, all of this Hagar talk is making me sick.....:)

Yup, I'm closing my eyes right now and seeing a framed picture in my house of this one. Just bought tickets this morning to DTE. 6 tickets, $60 total. Like Hagar or not, blame him for selling out to his tequila or not, for $10 he's bringing (at least by the looks of it) one fun Saturday afternoon/evening to the Motor City (ok the very north suburbs of the Motor City). Shit, to me $10 for an afternoon of fun is free!!
I like Cabo Wabo tequila, and I don't care to see a 50 year old version of Van Halen anymore. I think that makes my opinion a little bit different than a lot of you. I can accept the fact that Van Halen is done and will never be the biggest band in the world again. Not with Dave, and not with Sam. Probably not even with both at the same time. If you were Hagar, and owned one of the best premium liquors in the world, and you can use your music to promote it....wouldn't you do the same thing? If any one of us were in the same position, we would market it the same way. So that's part of the reason I could care less if he rips on EVH for being a miserable human being...talks about how hard the 2004 tour was...or talks about putting on free shows. It's not our fault Eddie's screwed up in the head, and if he doesn't want to put music out...oh well. If I never hear Eddie play another song I'm pretty sure I'll survive. Yup, I just checked and there's 30 years of stuff for me to fall back on if I don't hear anything new.

But you will see a 58 year old man sing about buttering his bisquit telling the world he can't drive 55
having someone young enough to be his daughter serve him his Cabo Wabo
thats cool its your opinion and your money.
I'm begining to think the only reason he got back with =VH= is for the money
last year according to Sammy everything was great all was forgotten blah blah blah blah....
How can Motley Crue and Aerosmith tour and function they don't get along either but they seem to manage?
If he doesnt like Eddie then come out and say I quit and stop being a pussy about it I can at least respect that.

I'm headed to the Army, all of this Hagar talk is making me sick.....:)
:funny:

:funny:

So whattup with the secret word for today??

You said W. :sssh:

So I'll guess.............Why??? Wabos??? :D

(whispering) The Secret Word for today is.....



.....WHINERS. http://usera.imagecave.com/Bard/littleyin.gif

(whispering) The Secret Word for today is.....



.....WHINERS. http://usera.imagecave.com/Bard/littleyin.gif

:funny:

Thanks!!! :thumb:

Now I can quit thinkin!!! :drunk:

Maybe I will go to one of his shows and get a picture with the Jackass. Hell maybe even with the donkeys!

But you will see a 58 year old man sing about buttering his bisquit telling the world he can't drive 55
having someone young enough to be his daughter serve him his Cabo Wabo
thats cool its your opinion and your money.

Yeah, that sounds about right.

Yeah, that sounds about right.

Have a good time hope you enjoy the show :thumb:

I can close my eyes and see this pipe dream...

15 years from now I hear about "Sam Fest" Its a concert with Sammy that has a mix of music, games and events. Sort of like a Lolllapolooza but its free.

As I walk through the ticket area I notice something weird. There is a dunk tank with a manniquin that looks like Eddie Van Halen. Its called the "Dunk the drunk" and you can play for $5.00. Proceeds are to help Mona get on Extreme Makeover.

There is a rib and chili cookoff contest. However the only sauce you can use is Mad Anthony's. The winner of each contest gets a free case of Cabo Wabo Toilet Paper for those times when Mad Anthony kicks your colon.

Over by the T-shirt booth, they have an interactive art display where you make Stop and Yield signs out of Sammy's old stagewear.

I then notice an amish looking fella wearing nothing but red attire making rocking chairs painted in red. They are called "The Red Rockers."

However I get tired of this and want to see the show so I get some Waborita's and head to the stage.

The lights dim down. I hear a guitar starting the chord progression of "I can't drive 55". The lights turn on and here comes Sammy on a red Rascal (the vehicle of choice for older people). However the lyrics are changed to "I Can't Drive 5"

After the song, Sammy says he bought out the company who makes the Rascal and not only will he be selling them, but will sponsering races at future Sam Fest shows. He was going to sell the broadcasting rights to ESPN however he wants it to be broadcast for free. So look for them to be on PBS.

The Rascals however do not use electricity for their propulsion system. Sammy and Mike developed a way of making a combustion engine using Cabo Wabo Tequilla as fuel. Sammy is in talks with all the auto makers and they feel we can eliminate our dependence on oil with this breakthrough. However Sammy insists that it needs to be free and that Eddie Van Halen does not get one.

I wake up and then realize it was just a dream.....

C for content, B- for effort.

we should re-name this thread to "pile on Sammy"

I can close my eyes and see this pipe dream...

15 years from now I hear about "Sam Fest" Its a concert with Sammy that has a mix of music, games and events. Sort of like a Lolllapolooza but its free.

As I walk through the ticket area I notice something weird. There is a dunk tank with a manniquin that looks like Eddie Van Halen. Its called the "Dunk the drunk" and you can play for $5.00. Proceeds are to help Mona get on Extreme Makeover.

There is a rib and chili cookoff contest. However the only sauce you can use is Mad Anthony's. The winner of each contest gets a free case of Cabo Wabo Toilet Paper for those times when Mad Anthony kicks your colon.

Over by the T-shirt booth, they have an interactive art display where you make Stop and Yield signs out of Sammy's old stagewear.

I then notice an amish looking fella wearing nothing but red attire making rocking chairs painted in red. They are called "The Red Rockers."

However I get tired of this and want to see the show so I get some Waborita's and head to the stage.

The lights dim down. I hear a guitar starting the chord progression of "I can't drive 55". The lights turn on and here comes Sammy on a red Rascal (the vehicle of choice for older people). However the lyrics are changed to "I Can't Drive 5"

After the song, Sammy says he bought out the company who makes the Rascal and not only will he be selling them, but will sponsering races at future Sam Fest shows. He was going to sell the broadcasting rights to ESPN however he wants it to be broadcast for free. So look for them to be on PBS.

The Rascals however do not use electricity for their propulsion system. Sammy and Mike developed a way of making a combustion engine using Cabo Wabo Tequilla as fuel. Sammy is in talks with all the auto makers and they feel we can eliminate our dependence on oil with this breakthrough. However Sammy insists that it needs to be free and that Eddie Van Halen does not get one.

I wake up and then realize it was just a dream.....

Ziggy ........are you sure that was'nt a acid flashback:drunk:

we should re-name this thread to "pile on Sammy"

Or just....WAHHHHHHHH :yell:

The secret word for today...again...is Whiners. :)

the secret word for this thread should be "closed"

Nah, let the whiners vent. It's good fodder for potshots. :cool:

the secret word for this thread should be "closed"

I think even Burt Convy would agree.....


( BTW...I wasn't referring to you in my last post up there :))

Nah, let the whiners vent. It's good fodder for potshots. :cool:

The bottom line is that we (whiners) & you (all others) are discusing something that is irrelevant at this point in time. The truth is that apparently Van Halen is pretty much over, & it´s really sad! I agree with Garibaldi that Van Halen could not be the band that it was, but I believe that they can retire with their legacy intact & as one of the greatest bands in history.

Last year´s tour was strange.. in a way, it was something everyone wanted to do, but it was 8 years of 0 contact, so basically everything changed (Sam, Eddie, Alex, Mike). These comments made by Sam (not the free concerts ones.. if Sammy wants to do it .. great!!), against Eddie, Eddie, etc. is something that is not helping the band... I see everyone laughing (public in general) at this new chapter... "They did a reunion last year, & now they are fighting again?"....

The Sammy reunion is over (I have to admit... I wanted it to last, but..). They need to get back with Dave, release a Box Set (w/ rarities, new songs if possible), tour & then retire at the top!!

Just my humble opinion!


Regards,

Enrique

Ziggy ........are you sure that was'nt a acid flashback:drunk:

Nah if it was an acid flashback, I would be seeing a VH band recharged and kicking a$$.

However all we have is this.

Nah if it was an acid flashback, I would be seeing a VH band recharged and kicking a$$.

However all we have is this.

If that's what happens when you trip on acid, gimme some o'dat!!! :drunk:

But yeah, all we have is this. :{

I agree with an earlier post, retire VH at the top. :thumb:

Let's end this in a good way.

Nah if it was an acid flashback, I would be seeing a VH band recharged and kicking a$$.

However all we have is this.

Lord knows this is way better:bounce: :scared:

Maybe I will go to one of his shows and get a picture with the Jackass. Hell maybe even with the donkeys!


So maybe that's what EVH really meant by "Bring on the donkey".

Yup, I'm closing my eyes right now and seeing a framed picture in my house of this one. Just bought tickets this morning to DTE. 6 tickets, $60 total. Like Hagar or not, blame him for selling out to his tequila or not, for $10 he's bringing (at least by the looks of it) one fun Saturday afternoon/evening to the Motor City (ok the very north suburbs of the Motor City). Shit, to me $10 for an afternoon of fun is free!!
I like Cabo Wabo tequila, and I don't care to see a 50 year old version of Van Halen anymore. I think that makes my opinion a little bit different than a lot of you. I can accept the fact that Van Halen is done and will never be the biggest band in the world again. Not with Dave, and not with Sam. Probably not even with both at the same time. If you were Hagar, and owned one of the best premium liquors in the world, and you can use your music to promote it....wouldn't you do the same thing? If any one of us were in the same position, we would market it the same way. So that's part of the reason I could care less if he rips on EVH for being a miserable human being...talks about how hard the 2004 tour was...or talks about putting on free shows. It's not our fault Eddie's screwed up in the head, and if he doesn't want to put music out...oh well. If I never hear Eddie play another song I'm pretty sure I'll survive. Yup, I just checked and there's 30 years of stuff for me to fall back on if I don't hear anything new.
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I happen to also have the same opinion.
Bravo dude! :thumb: Great post!
JA :)

I can close my eyes and see this pipe dream...

15 years from now I hear about "Sam Fest" Its a concert with Sammy that has a mix of music, games and events. Sort of like a Lolllapolooza but its free.

As I walk through the ticket area I notice something weird. There is a dunk tank with a manniquin that looks like Eddie Van Halen. Its called the "Dunk the drunk" and you can play for $5.00. Proceeds are to help Mona get on Extreme Makeover.

There is a rib and chili cookoff contest. However the only sauce you can use is Mad Anthony's. The winner of each contest gets a free case of Cabo Wabo Toilet Paper for those times when Mad Anthony kicks your colon.

Over by the T-shirt booth, they have an interactive art display where you make Stop and Yield signs out of Sammy's old stagewear.

I then notice an amish looking fella wearing nothing but red attire making rocking chairs painted in red. They are called "The Red Rockers."

However I get tired of this and want to see the show so I get some Waborita's and head to the stage.

The lights dim down. I hear a guitar starting the chord progression of "I can't drive 55". The lights turn on and here comes Sammy on a red Rascal (the vehicle of choice for older people). However the lyrics are changed to "I Can't Drive 5"

After the song, Sammy says he bought out the company who makes the Rascal and not only will he be selling them, but will sponsering races at future Sam Fest shows. He was going to sell the broadcasting rights to ESPN however he wants it to be broadcast for free. So look for them to be on PBS.

The Rascals however do not use electricity for their propulsion system. Sammy and Mike developed a way of making a combustion engine using Cabo Wabo Tequilla as fuel. Sammy is in talks with all the auto makers and they feel we can eliminate our dependence on oil with this breakthrough. However Sammy insists that it needs to be free and that Eddie Van Halen does not get one.

I wake up and then realize it was just a dream.....
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OMG! As big of a Redrocker fan as I am, and even tho this may have been intended as a dis to Sam, I still had to laugh! Too funny! Very intuitive thinking too.
Ed doesn't get one...awww....poor Eddie.

JA :)

I wake up and then realize it was just a dream.....

Or was it? and why do I have some framed photo with me and some 50 year old fat woman I don't remember ever meeting... we're hugging a donkey thats wearing a Cabo Wabo t-shirt and an autographed empty bottle of Cabo Wabo tequila sitting on the hood of my car when I headed out to work this morning?