Here's the interview:

Post-Van Halen Hagar Is 'Livin' It Up'


April 18, 2006, 10:45 AM ET

John Benson, Cleveland
Sammy Hagar is gearing up for summer with a new album and a tour about to begin. Two years removed from a Van Halen reunion tour, the Red Rocker says he realized the importance of performing the band's classic material, so he's bringing VH bassist Michael Anthony out on the road for a nightly mid-set digression, billed as "The Other Half," into all things Van Hagar.

"We're really having fun with stuff and after the last Van Halen reunion, it doesn't feel much like that may ever happen again for all kinds of reasons," Hagar says. "But I just think I need to play those songs, the fans need to hear those songs and it's just unfair to let it sit and die."

Current plans call for Anthony to arrive on stage about an hour into the Hagar and Wabos (recently shortened from Waboritas) set with his legendary bass solo extravaganza, before the two Van Halen members jam for 60 minutes in a retrospective filled with hits and even a few obscure tunes. Hagar says the idea for "The Other Half" stems from last year's annual Cabo Wabo Cantina birthday party in Cabo San Lucas, Mexico, when Anthony showed up onstage unannounced.

As for his next studio album, dubbed "Livin' It Up," the 58-year-old artist says he's shopping it to labels. However, fans will hear about a half-dozen of the songs on the 36-date tour, which begins May 5 in Lake Tahoe, Nev.

"'Livin' it Up" is really a lifestyle record," Hagar says. "It's not a metal record at all. I would say it's more American country rock than heavy metal rock, which is the type of music I've always played from Montrose through Van Halen. My intention was to just make a real honest record."


Written over the past year at his home in Cabo San Lucas, the album features original songs such as "One Sip and You'll Surrender" and "The Way We Live," as well as a rocking honky-tonk cover of Toby Keith's "I Love This Bar" and his version of the Staple Singers' "I'll Take You There."

While Hagar's solo prospects appear bright, that's not the case with Van Halen.

"There were some real problems in the band," Hagar says, referring to the reunion tour. "I have to tell you, there were nights I didn't know what song Eddie [Van Halen] was playing. There were times I wanted to kill that guy for what he was playing. I would have left that tour in the middle of it if it wasn't for the professional aspect. He's never going to see my ass again unless he goes and gets himself some help."

I gotta agree with Sam on Eddie. I don't blame in at all!

Wow. Overall, I think Sam is a good guy. There's alot of VH fans that are 50/50 on the lead singer issue. I think it's very cool that he's at least considering the Roth era fans. I think he truly does care about his fans and VH fans abroad. I think it's very cool that Roth and Hagar could put differences aside and tour together a few years ago. I wish Ed would get help...he may not care about music and touring anymore, who knows....he has been through alot...but these guys aren't getting younger, and it seems that Hagar is really starting to embrace the quality of life, and Roth is being proactive too, even if everyone is critical. Who would have ever thought that the only people from Van Halen that wouldn't still have a proactive career...would be the Van Halen's?

I wish this fucker would just learn to say 'no comment' when it comes to the 04 tour.

I wish this fucker would just learn to say 'no comment' when it comes to the 04 tour.

Why? he did all that during the tour....the VH gestapo made sure of that...

Why?

Because it would be the prudent thing to do.

Sometimes it's okay to tell somebody they're a dick, really.

Heck, it happens to me all the time. Why should Ed get a pass? :D

Ed...you were being a dick. I saw it firsthand in Las Vegas. Pull your head out of your ass and get a grip.

There, see? It's easy once you know how. :p

I can no longer maintain unknowing limbo is preferable to everybody keeping the dirty laundry in-house. I just can't.

If that's the way Ed wanted it, he should've done something about it. Besides, it's easy for the problem child to zip lips...doing otherwise means accepting responsibility or passing the blame buck.

Here's the interview:

Post-Van Halen Hagar Is 'Livin' It Up'


April 18, 2006, 10:45 AM ET

John Benson, Cleveland
Sammy Hagar is gearing up for summer with a new album and a tour about to begin. Two years removed from a Van Halen reunion tour, the Red Rocker says he realized the importance of performing the band's classic material, so he's bringing VH bassist Michael Anthony out on the road for a nightly mid-set digression, billed as "The Other Half," into all things Van Hagar.

"We're really having fun with stuff and after the last Van Halen reunion, it doesn't feel much like that may ever happen again for all kinds of reasons," Hagar says. "But I just think I need to play those songs, the fans need to hear those songs and it's just unfair to let it sit and die."

Current plans call for Anthony to arrive on stage about an hour into the Hagar and Wabos (recently shortened from Waboritas) set with his legendary bass solo extravaganza, before the two Van Halen members jam for 60 minutes in a retrospective filled with hits and even a few obscure tunes. Hagar says the idea for "The Other Half" stems from last year's annual Cabo Wabo Cantina birthday party in Cabo San Lucas, Mexico, when Anthony showed up onstage unannounced.

As for his next studio album, dubbed "Livin' It Up," the 58-year-old artist says he's shopping it to labels. However, fans will hear about a half-dozen of the songs on the 36-date tour, which begins May 5 in Lake Tahoe, Nev.

"'Livin' it Up" is really a lifestyle record," Hagar says. "It's not a metal record at all. I would say it's more American country rock than heavy metal rock, which is the type of music I've always played from Montrose through Van Halen. My intention was to just make a real honest record."


Written over the past year at his home in Cabo San Lucas, the album features original songs such as "One Sip and You'll Surrender" and "The Way We Live," as well as a rocking honky-tonk cover of Toby Keith's "I Love This Bar" and his version of the Staple Singers' "I'll Take You There."

While Hagar's solo prospects appear bright, that's not the case with Van Halen.

"There were some real problems in the band," Hagar says, referring to the reunion tour. "I have to tell you, there were nights I didn't know what song Eddie [Van Halen] was playing. There were times I wanted to kill that guy for what he was playing. I would have left that tour in the middle of it if it wasn't for the professional aspect. He's never going to see my ass again unless he goes and gets himself some help."

I gotta agree with Sam on Eddie. I don't blame in at all!

Bullshit Sammy didn't stay out of professionalism!! He stayed because of the money, period. He stands to have a bigger payday with Van Halen than he ever would by himself

Damn. Well, that's that with Van Hagar.

When's Cherone coming back?

Bullshit Sammy didn't stay out of professionalism!! He stayed because of the money, period. He stands to have a bigger payday with Van Halen than he ever would by himself

Yes if Sammy speaks, it's a lie and BS. I guess if Dave said Ed needs help, then suddenly a whole faction of VH fans might start to agree on something??

To some, no matter what Sammy says is a lie. Like Sammy needs money??? Maybe he did it to not rip the fans off who (over) paid their good money to see them on the tour?? It's possible that someone in this band actually cares about the fans, right?

Yeah well I guess that signing every fucking thing that got thrown up on stage insted of singing the songs is his idea of professionalism.

Sometimes it's okay to tell somebody they're a dick, really.

Heck, it happens to me all the time. Why should Ed get a pass? :D

Ed...you were being a dick. I saw it firsthand in Las Vegas. Pull your head out of your ass and get a grip.

There, see? It's easy once you know how. :p

I can no longer maintain unknowing limbo is preferable to everybody keeping the dirty laundry in-house. I just can't.

If that's the way Ed wanted it, he should've done something about it. Besides, it's easy for the problem child to zip lips...doing otherwise means accepting responsibility or passing the blame buck.

You saying Edward is a dick on a fan message board is very different than being a member of the band talking in a public forum but you knew that already. ;) I for one would like to think maybe Edward and Al have learned something from past mistakes made throwing barbs at lead singers. It doesn't accomplish anything. And it is your right to want to know all the dirty laundry because we are curious what goes on behind the scenes. Doesn't mean it all has to be hung out as it's pretty tacky seeing someone's skid marks left in the underwear that the bleach didn't take out. Perhaps those and a few other unmentionables are better left on the shower rod to dry.......

You surprise me Squal. With your background it would seem that you would like for them to settle things with each other face to face, not in the press knowing as we've discussed before that it's only making future endeavors next to impossible.

I wish this fucker would just learn to say 'no comment' when it comes to the 04 tour.

Lame.

I love the honesty.

If someone asks me a direct question, I give them a direct answer.

Who's Sam hurting my answering the question honestly?

I wish this fucker would just learn to say 'no comment' when it comes to the 04 tour.

Why, so you could bash him for avoiding the question or covering something up?

Yeah well I guess that signing every fucking thing that got thrown up on stage insted of singing the songs is his idea of professionalism.

Yeah, tell that to the fans who got something signed. I went to three VH shows in 04 (Greensboro, Louisville & Atlanta) and had no problem with him doing this. I take it as the same type thing as Dave "forgetting" the lyrics or making up lyrics as he goes sometimes. I guess it's all better than taking your talent and going home and not sharing it with the world for years upon end and depriving fans who love your music a chance to enjoy our talent. (Yes it's the talented individuals perogative to do this, I know, but at least Sammy is giving back to the fans.)

Thanks for sharing the interview, VH Fan.

Funny to see Sam ask "what song Ed was playin"

I too asked myself that same question.

Anyone want to host a clip of Seventh Seal from Atlantic City......I was there and heard the boot later....just I had remembered it.

Ed's a mess.

When he's off the juice he was decent, but some nights it was ugly.

Yes if Sammy speaks, it's a lie and BS. I guess if Dave said Ed needs help, then suddenly a whole faction of VH fans might start to agree on something??

To some, no matter what Sammy says is a lie. Like Sammy needs money??? Maybe he did it to not rip the fans off who (over) paid their good money to see them on the tour?? It's possible that someone in this band actually cares about the fans, right?

Actually Dave has said the very same thing about Ed in the last few weeks on his radio show. I think majority of the fans do agree that Edward Van Halen has some issues/problems and could use some help if he so desired it.

The only fans not agreeing with this are busy being prudent with their heads firmly planted in the sand on Denial Beach.

You saying Edward is a dick on a fan message board is very different than being a member of the band talking in a public forum but you knew that already. ;) I for one would like to think maybe Edward and Al have learned something from past mistakes made throwing barbs at lead singers. It doesn't accomplish anything. And it is your right to want to know all the dirty laundry because we are curious what goes on behind the scenes. Doesn't mean it all has to be hung out as it's pretty tacky seeing someone's skid marks left in the underwear that the bleach didn't take out. Perhaps those and a few other unmentionables are better left on the shower rod to dry.......

You surprise me Squal. With your background it would seem that you would like for them to settle things with each other face to face, not in the press knowing as we've discussed before that it's only making future endeavors next to impossible.

Of course I'd prefer for them to settle things with each other rather than bashing via press. But you can't get water from a stone, babe. I seriously doubt Sam and Mike haven't tried more than once to mend this fence BEFORE anything was said to any reporter. And EVERY fucking time Sam or Mike are interviewed, no matter if it's a hot sauce promotional junket or a new Wabo album, or what the fuck ever, they are inevitably queried about Van Halen from the interviewer.

Now they have several options to choose from in these prickly yet inevitable scenarios:

The ubiquitious 'no comment' cop out...Lame. No backbone and keeps us fans as always in perpetual dark.

Lie. To protect Eddie's privacy and issues. Say everything was fine when it most obviously was not. This might have been more effective and pertinent had Edward not shown thousands of us his issues onstage and during soundchecks in '04, plus the fact that his wife of twenty years divorced him, plus the rumored contributing factor that he had an affair, plus his past admitted revelations concerning his addictions.

Or, being human, and not demigod rock stars as we pretend them to be, they'll say it like it is, just as you or me or any other numbnuts might say, being fed up with getting asked the same old questions, tired of dancing around a issue that isn't directly your issue, yet through the nature of proximity in the public eye (i.e., Sam and Mike WANT to keep playing tunes, so they do magazine and radio interviews and put on concerts and such), they keep getting asked about the SAME OLD ISSUES.

You gotta say something sometime. You just look stupid denying again and again and again. Even if Sam's wrong, which seems highly unlikely given evidence to date, he's answering from his viewpoint, and what he believes to be true. Honesty, as Jimbo mentioned.

I find it hard to believe any of us could do any better in such a fucked up situation in such a dysfunctional celebrity duo dynamic. Myself included.

Too many people just want- or need - to look the other way, hoping that Ed will see the light for himself at some point.

Sam says it. Dave says it. Mike says it. Valerie says it. Dude's got issues. Should they be rankled in the press? No. Should they be addressed in some fashion in some way? Yes. If Ed won't deal with the stuff privately, what are they gonna do?

The answer many of you seem to want is, 'keep playing along and don't add to the clusterfuck until Eddie hopefully gets a grip."

Perhaps they have reached a point where they can no longer temper their impatience. Everybody's got a tolerance limit. And think about it...as frustrated as we are as fans, these guys aren't just business associates...they were once friends, tight friends, wives, whatever. Think about it. You've got a bud who was a real ass during whatever. He won't take your calls nor accept any responsibility. Your group of pals keeps telling you somebody's gotta say something. So you head on over to the bar where he's holed up, and there's a crowd inside. He won't come outside to talk to you privately.

So do you bawl your friend out in front of the whole bar, saying what you need to say, what needs to be said, regardless of the public scrutiny, or do you walk out and say fuck it, knowing your buds are just gonna ask you again, and again, and again....

Whaddya do?

Some things have to be said even if it means the end.

Such is life. For celebrities, it must be even more difficult.

Of course I'd prefer for them to settle things with each other rather than bashing via press. But you can't get water from a stone, babe. I seriously doubt Sam and Mike haven't tried more than once to mend this fence BEFORE anything was said to any reporter.
You gotta say something sometime. You just look stupid denying again and again and again. Even if Sam's wrong, which seems highly unlikely given evidence to date, he's answering from his viewpoint, and what he believes to be true. Honesty, as Jimbo mentioned.

I find it hard to believe any of us could do any better in such a fucked up situation in such a dysfunctional celebrity duo dynamic. Myself included.


The answer many of you seem to want is, 'keep playing along and don't add to the clusterfuck until Eddie hopefully gets a grip."

...they were once friends, tight friends, wives, whatever. Think about it. You've got a bud who was a real ass during whatever. He won't take your calls nor accept any responsibility. Your group of pals keeps telling you somebody's gotta say something. .

I think you nailed it right there. Everyone has had a friend that at some point you have to try to reach no matter what. I seriously doubt all of his friends woke up one day and said "you know, I never really tried to confront him about it, so I'll just let it all out to the press." Sometimes you just have to be honest with people.

Funny to see Sam ask "what song Ed was playin"

I too asked myself that same question.

Anyone want to host a clip of Seventh Seal from Atlantic City......I was there and heard the boot later....just I had remembered it.

Ed's a mess.

When he's off the juice he was decent, but some nights it was ugly.

Yea, 7th Seal really sucked that night. I don't think I've heard a good version of it from the 2004 tour, and it's all because of EVH.

Oh well, I still had a blast at the shows I attended.

Yea, 7th Seal really sucked that night. I don't think I've heard a good version of it from the 2004 tour, and it's all because of EVH.

Oh well, I still had a blast at the shows I attended.

And I had a blast as well. I'm not gonna let a few sour notes totally screw up my experience.

I love Van Halen, but I'm not on the "kool-aid" enough to not hear the bad notes and not see Ed's strange behavior.

Let's be honest. I saw five shows in 2004 - four were totally awesome (Indy, Cincy, Ft Wayne & Tucson). But I have to be honest - the Denver show was really, really BAD. I love Eddie - but I have to say I don't know what he was playing - even though I knew the setlist (who on here didn't?) the only way I could make out what song they were on was to listen carefully to the lyrics and figure it out, ED was way out in left feild - it was like he was having his own little jam session, while the rest of the band was trying to do the songs. It was really embarrassing. We were listening to the local Denver radio station (the fox I think?) the next day, and they took a beating for the same reason from the callers who were at the show.

Denver was my second show, and as dissapointed as I was in it, I continued to go to three more shows, and was glad I did, they all rocked. Denver was apparently a bad night. I'll bet out of the 80 there were some other "Denvers" out there.

Yeah, Sammy could continue to be politically correct like he was DURING the tour interviews, but he doesn't have to anymore. He's telling it like it was. It is what it is.

And I had a blast as well. I'm not gonna let a few sour notes totally screw up my experience.

I love Van Halen, but I'm not on the "kool-aid" enough to not hear the bad notes and not see Ed's strange behavior.


I absolutely think that Ed's playing is the main reason why Sam will not work with him. I have heard two shows, and saw some video footage and Ed should have known not to tour if he was not up to it. I am glad I didn't waste my money. Ed has to clean up for his own sake.

His issues according to Michael Anthony of now letting Mike & Sammy sell their hot sauce and tequila is absolutely ridiculous. Hey, Hall & Oates let their band members sell their solo CDs along side H&O's merchandise. I don't see Daryl & John complaining about their band using the H&O name to sell their own product.

Ed has got to get his act together, period!

And I had a blast as well. I'm not gonna let a few sour notes totally screw up my experience.

I love Van Halen, but I'm not on the "kool-aid" enough to not hear the bad notes and not see Ed's strange behavior.

Yea, he really screwed up a part in Poundcake that night which was totally noticable. And laying on the floor while sustaining a note for like two and a half minutes was also strange.

Sometimes it's okay to tell somebody they're a dick, really. Heck, it happens to me all the time.That's because you are a dick.

:sssh:

That's because you are a dick.

:sssh:


:funny:

Exactly! :D Scotty, he so astute. :cool:

And so too, is Edward a DICK.

Ya know, I only live a little over an hour away from Dick Mountain. Perhaps us two dicks could go dick around Dickhead City and talk jack dick about the rest of the dickless dicks, and how maybe we could improve our dickpositions and be less dickly.

Ed, PM me. I can help. Us dicks know how it is. :devil:

Maybe we should start a band.

We'll call ourselves The Other Dicks

[QUOTE=SuckaInA3Piece]Yea, he really screwed up a part in Poundcake that night which was totally noticable./QUOTE]

That really clean part of the tune, the rest of the band stops and Ed picks some pretty notes, where Sam licks each finger like it had been dipped in a honey dew mellon....Ed's suppose to play this pretty little lick, but that night, he was just in the wrong position on the neck...very embarassing look on Ed's face like, WTf

Eddie has to be the most tragic story in rock and roll. I know some people would argue that Jimmy Hendrix, or Buddy Holly, or many others had more tragic lives, but the biggest tragedy of all is that he CAN come back and play, but he chooses not to.

He WAS the greatest guitar player in rock and roll history. There is no doubt in my mind of that. However, he has since made horrible business and personal choices which have adversely affected his playing ability, but most importantly, his legacy.

Why don't people give VH the credit they deserve? Why are they NEVER considered for the greatest rock band of all time? Why is Ed ALWAYS looked over by magazines, new music fans, and the general public? It is so frustrating because everyone wants to see Ed like he was in '78: happy, smiling, and amazing on guitar. Yes has aged, but that does not mean he still cannot play. He even gave glimpses of what he COULD do on the tour, but he was on too much juice to really play like he CAN.

Even though he stunk on this last tour by every measure, the thought in the back of everyone's mind was: "okay, it wasn't pretty, but wasn't it awesome to see him out there again? Maybe this will change him and make him want to be clean again!" But is obviously hasn't.

For all of those who say its his perogative to sit in the studio and play, that's bullshit. Until he sells his house and studio that WE paid for by buying his records and seeing his shows and buying his t-shirts, he should be out there playing for us. If he came out tomorrow and said "I'm done, I'm retiring," I would be fine with that. I would disappointed, but at least I wouldn't keep checking this board waiting for the next interview with him only to read, "we're currently on hiatus again, but we'll see what happens in the future."

It's a two way street Ed, and you're driving like an asshole.

Bullshit Sammy didn't stay out of professionalism!! He stayed because of the money, period. He stands to have a bigger payday with Van Halen than he ever would by himself

This is completely off-topic, however...bobalue, I'm assuming those dates listed in your signature are concert dates when you've seen Van Halen.

Well, the first one, "1984 Detroit, MI" is incorrect. Van Halen did not perform in Detroit in 1984. They performed in April, 1985 in support of their "1984" album. I was at the concert and if you need proof, I still have a concert ticket stub from the show I could scan and upload for ya. I'm not trying to be a dick or anything. Just trying to let you know so you can update your signature if you'd like.

BTW - I was probably at all those shows listed in your signature too. I kept all the stubs. Hell, we might have accidently bumped into each other while enjoying the show. :thumb:

Oh well, I still had a blast at the shows I attended.

In the end, is'nt that all that really matters? :)

Here is my take on everything...
We ALL want Eddie, Alex, Mike, Sam or Dave to make new music and tour.
All of you Sam bashers can say whatever you want. All I say is:

Who is making new music and touring?
Mike & Sam

Who is at least doing something?
Dave

Who isn't doing shittt?
Ed and Al

All I say is Sam and Mike kick ass. They are going out and having fun and making music and saying screw everyone else if they don't want to join the party. If any of you guys really think this tour is about money, your nuts... He makes way more from the tequilia and clubs. He doesnt ever need to tour or make music again. (He probably takes a loss on it considering the tik prices)

Here is my take on everything...
We ALL want Eddie, Alex, Mike, Sam or Dave to make new music and tour.
All of you Sam bashers can say whatever you want. All I say is:

Who is making new music and touring?
Mike & Sam

Who is at least doing something?
Dave

Who isn't doing shittt?
Ed and Al

All I say is Sam and Mike kick ass. They are going out and having fun and making music and saying screw everyone else if they don't want to join the party. If any of you guys really think this tour is about money, your nuts... He makes way more from the tequilia and clubs. He doesnt ever need to tour or make music again. (He probably takes a loss on it considering the tik prices)

Dude there are people on this board that are never happy. They complain about everything and seem to have never left high school. I can see these 30-40 somethings still running around with a mullet a comb in the back pocket and wear Quit Riot concert shirts to work. I suspect many of them don't have a job yet still feel qualified to advise VH members how to manage their careers. They are unhappy people and want everyone else they come in contact with to be miserable. The world won't be right again until Fair Warning II is released and I'm sure they beat their wife her little dog too.

The world won't be right again until Fair Warning II is released and I'm sure they beat their wife her little dog too.
:funny:

Lame.

I love the honesty.

If someone asks me a direct question, I give them a direct answer.

Who's Sam hurting my answering the question honestly?


He is telling why we (fans) won't see another tour or album in the near future until edd cleans up. And your right sam isn't hurting anyone

Not what I got from this interview. What u guys r talking about has been well documented.

The line that shocked me is: "The new album is country rock!"

Sam's doing country rock now!
F$%n' a!

Another sad chapter in the saga. And don't tell me it's better than doing nothing! Doing nothing beats country rock 10-0!

Hopefully Eddie got the wake-up call and gets help and gets the drinking under control. :thumb: His abuse has never been more obvious and more discussed...

Actually Dave has said the very same thing about Ed in the last few weeks on his radio show. I think majority of the fans do agree that Edward Van Halen has some issues/problems and could use some help if he so desired it.

The only fans not agreeing with this are busy being prudent with their heads firmly planted in the sand on Denial Beach.

It's not about denial. It's about not needing to hear about it every other breath. I'm sorry, but throwing out barbs in every interview is not the way you go about helping a friend, if indeed that's what Sammy considers Ed. You do that crap in person, in private, and you leave it there. Nothing good can come from it otherwise.

Yeah, Ed could use some help. If he so desires it. And only then will it happen.

The line that shocked me is: "The new album is country rock!"

Sam's doing country rock now!
F$%n' a!

Another sad chapter in the saga. And don't tell me it's better than doing nothing! Doing nothing beats country rock 10-0!

I've seen this coming from a mile away ! First came the metamorphosis into Buffet Jr., then the chumming with Toby Keith and Kenny Chesney.........This was inevitable!
Maybe he thinks he'll sell more records in that genre, who knows?

I've always liked Sam's solo stuff better than anything he did in VH, especially his early work, but the "60 year old party host" schtick is getting tiring.
I just wish ALL the parties involved with this 20 year old daytime drama would just let it go and move on !

It's not about denial. It's about not needing to hear about it every other breath. I'm sorry, but throwing out barbs in every interview is not the way you go about helping a friend, if indeed that's what Sammy considers Ed. You do that crap in person, in private, and you leave it there. Nothing good can come from it otherwise.

Yeah, Ed could use some help. If he so desires it. And only then will it happen.

Good point , I agree..
If ya feel someone might need a little help and guidance, you don't rip on them,you call them up and talk , ya don't need to damage them more...

(He probably takes a loss on it considering the tik prices)

0% chance of that.

I've seen this coming from a mile away ! First came the metamorphosis into Buffet Jr., then the chumming with Toby Keith and Kenny Chesney.........This was inevitable!
Maybe he thinks he'll sell more records in that genre, who knows?

I think you hit the nail on the head. Sam thinks he can sell more records in this genre...he knows his solo career as a rock artist is about over (let's fact it...without Mikey on this tour he would not sell many tickets and probably still won't). It's the same thing with Bret Michaels of Poison...he is exploring the country genre also.

Because it would be the prudent thing to do.

Prudent for what? Because he says what everyone already knows and just doesn't want to hear the truth? Come on man, wake the fuck up! The root of Van Halen's problem is Ed. If Alex would have kicked little brother in the ass years ago, we would probably be enjoying fresh VH this summer. At least Sam and Mike are moving on, playing music and having fun. Stop standing up for Ed. He put himself in his cold and lonely place.

I've always liked Sam's solo stuff better than anything he did in VH

Wow. I never thought I'd hear that. I've never liked Sam's solo stuff and now that he's going country on us, I'm sort of glad he's not in VH. Then again, Dave is going bluegrass. These guys are mellowing out on us.

Wow. I never thought I'd hear that. I've never liked Sam's solo stuff and now that he's going country on us, I'm sort of glad he's not in VH. Then again, Dave is going bluegrass. These guys are mellowing out on us.


Naw, man
Standing Hampton, Three Lock Box, all the Montrose stuff, etc., were all good work ! Top to bottom, song for song, great ! Very little love and fluff, and the rock was rock, not pop, real late 70's rock !

I'd listen to solo Hagar back then before any Foreigner, Journey, Rush, Triumph stuff !

I always had the idea that Ed was always pretty fucked up when he played live so if that was the case, he must have been beyond that last year 'cuz I noticed the erratic playing on songs like Seventh Seal and more. It's like he was bad for all those years, got sober in the mid 90s, and not only went back to drinking like he did before but took it a step further.

It's a two way street Ed, and you're driving like an asshole.

Amen to that...

Having said that, it really is up to Ed if he wants to continue playing, recording and touring, not ours...

It's sad that he isn't doing what he does best but I guess that's life...

Lame.

I love the honesty.

If someone asks me a direct question, I give them a direct answer.

Who's Sam hurting my answering the question honestly?

How many times would you like to hear it. That was pretty much the point.

Hurting? Who's he telling is a better question. If you went, you heard and have you own opinion and if you didn't well then your dumb ;)

Why? he did all that during the tour....the VH gestapo made sure of that...

Because it's just getting old now.

A 'no comment' would be lame if he hadn't stated his mind previously several times now.

Prudent for what?

Pretty much explained in my last post. R.E.A.D.

Because he says what everyone already knows

Umm, yeah, that's my point. Over and over and over and over and.....Hello overkill! :yell:

Stop standing up for Ed.

Hmm, last i checked i wasn't. I just said Sammy doesn't need to toss barbs at every opportunity. It does absolutely no good.

He put himself in his cold and lonely place

Meh, i'd say a culmination of the mistake in '96, cancer, two hip replacements and a divorce put him there. But then that is certainly open for debate. Regardless, cutting him down in public is not the way someone helps out a friend(again, back to prudent). It's just a way for Sam to make himself look good, IMHO. Otherwise once for the record is enough, and it's no comment the rest of the way.

I always had the idea that Ed was always pretty fucked up when he played live so if that was the case, he must have been beyond that last year 'cuz I noticed the erratic playing on songs like Seventh Seal and more. It's like he was bad for all those years, got sober in the mid 90s, and not only went back to drinking like he did before but took it a step further.


First off, I'm not really sure he ever cleaned up. That said, his playing in '04 was horrific. There just comes a point where the constant abuse catches up with you and you can no longer function like you used to. I know several functional alcoholics, they can handle their liquor well and you'd never know, but there comes a time where the body just can't take it, and I think Ed has hit that wall. His "playing" in Vegas was embarrassing, and I saw him on what my friends described as the better night of their Vegas stint.

I guess that it is just time to enjoy the Sammy tours, the occasional Dave shows and the Atomic Punks, because that is the only way you're going to get your live VH fix anymore.

Because it's just getting old now.

A 'no comment' would be lame if he hadn't stated his mind previously several times now.

No, saying 'no comment' AFTER he's already stated his mind looks lame as well.

What a lot of you really seem to mean is, you wish reporters and djs and interviewers would STOP ASKING about the status of Van Halen.

Because we know the answer already, and it sucks hearing it again and again.

So why do people keep asking?

The same reason why we all keep coming to this fuckin' joint.

HOPE.

We're waiting to be knocked on our asses for that interview/press release that announces 'Van Halen reunited and releasing new album."

:wtf: <----- holding breath

i was at opening night in greensboro and was stupid enough to think that all was well.for those people that think sammy just stayed in for the money i think they are wrong as you will see that he will sell many tickets on this tour and not have to split it up with as many people.i really think he stuck with it for the reason he said. i will go see him and i am sure i will enjoy

No, saying 'no comment' AFTER he's already stated his mind looks lame as well.

What a lot of you really seem to mean is, you wish reporters and djs and interviewers would STOP ASKING about the status of Van Halen.

Because we know the answer already, and it sucks hearing it again and again.

So why do people keep asking?

The same reason why we all keep coming to this fuckin' joint.

HOPE.

We're waiting to be knocked on our asses for that interview/press release that announces 'Van Halen reunited and releasing new album."

:wtf: <----- holding breath

Well, all of that, plus the fact that most normal humans being do not read each and every nugget of VH-related news.

This is the 100th time we've read the same thing but Johnny Buttlick logging on to billboard.com may not even know VH even toured in 2004.

I don't think so but point taken Squal. From my perspective Sam seems a little hung up on Ed. There must have been something positive to take away to the 04 experience, no?

A rekindled friendship with Alex? One good night out on town? Maybe some good 'road sex'?

Well, all of that, plus the fact that most normal humans being do not read each and every nugget of VH-related news.

This is the 100th time we've read the same thing but Johnny Buttlick logging on to billboard.com may not even know VH even toured in 2004.


:p

Ah, good ol' John Buttlick. Where is that cat these days, anyway? :D



Seriously, good point about most of planet Earth not really knowing nor caring how many times Sam has discussed the fallout with Ed.

I don't think so but point taken Squal. From my perspective Sam seems a little hung up on Ed. There must have been something positive to take away to the 04 experience, no?


The highlight of Sam's career is Van Halen. It only makes sense that a reporter would ask him about the status of Van Halen and their most recent tour. The question is asked, Sam answers it honestly.

When Sam buys an ad on the Super Bowl or American Idol and uses his airtime to question Ed's mental state and inability to play the guitar.....that's when you can say and I will say "Sam seems a little hung up on Ed." By simply answering a question honestly is what's best for fans, Sam and Ed.....a little reality check.

Dream another dream, this dream is over.

Even Mike said 'old things came up between Sam and Ed' on the road.

But you think Sam is being a straight shooter about Ed's playing as the cause?

I think Sam can be full of shit.

The highlight of Sam's career is Van Halen. It only makes sense that a reporter would ask him about the status of Van Halen and their most recent tour. The question is asked, Sam answers it honestly.

When Sam buys an ad on the Super Bowl or American Idol and uses his airtime to question Ed's mental state and inability to play the guitar.....that's when you can say and I will say "Sam seems a little hung up on Ed." By simply answering a question honestly is what's best for fans, Sam and Ed.....a little reality check.

Dream another dream, this dream is over.

As usual, Jimmy puts a point on it all. :thumb:

I still have no idea how people can continue to believe Sammy or Mikey or Davey have darker motives for telling it like they see it (funny how it's always Sam who gets the greater blame, him being the cash cow these days). He makes more money when he's in Van Halen, not touring solo. He used to be best buds with Ed. It doesn't do anything for his personal or commercial image to slag Eddie just for the fuck of it.

There's only one way we're ever gonna see Van Halen do anything significant ever again. And there's only one man who can make it happen.

As usual, Jimmy puts a point on it all. :thumb:

I still have no idea how people can continue to believe Sammy or Mikey or Davey have darker motives for telling it like they see it (funny how it's always Sam who gets the greater blame, him being the cash cow these days). He makes more money when he's in Van Halen, not touring solo. He used to be best buds with Ed. It doesn't do anything for his personal or commercial image to slag Eddie just for the fuck of it.

There's only one way we're ever gonna see Van Halen do anything significant ever again. And there's only one man who can make it happen.



And that man is Jack Bauer.

And that man is Jack Bauer.
LMMFAO!

Sam hasn't GONE country. He's gonna play a rockin set... this is just a little mellower album. Trying something a little different...kinda like FWYS.

Some of you just can't get over it... the 80's ended 16 years ago...
(damn I'm old)

He's gonna play everything he can on this tour (Old Sam, New Sam, Montrose and VH) and put on as fun and as good of a show as he can.........

and for $10.

sorry, I don't see the problem here.
Maybe he should hide in his shoe closet and wait for Ed to call him.
They'll both be 65 or 70 by then.

Bullshit Sammy didn't stay out of professionalism!! He stayed because of the money, period. He stands to have a bigger payday with Van Halen than he ever would by himselfsam,would have never had the reconition he has now if it was'nt for eddie and alex van halen PERIOD! :scared:

And that man is Jack Bauer.


Damn, that show is the most addictive thing on TV ever.

Appointment television.

Ahem...(puts on best impression of mutant voice)...

"Eddie's dah shit, an' Sam an' Mike wur lucky az shit to ride his money train so they shuld just shut the up fuck and leeve him be an if he callz they shuld kiz his golden ass jus to git back. Van Halen iz th BEST hevy medal band ever!! Peece out an Roth on!."

I love Van Halen, but I'm not on the "kool-aid" enough to not hear the bad notes and not see Ed's strange behavior.

That's about where I'm at too.

Bullshit Sammy didn't stay out of professionalism!! He stayed because of the money, period.

We already know that (a) Mikey took a huge cut to be a part of it for the fans and (b) Sam tore up the contract worth some $25M when he found out Ed wasn't going to let Mikey be on the tour.

the Red Rocker says he realized the importance of performing the band's classic material, so he's bringing VH bassist Michael Anthony out on the road for a nightly mid-set digression, billed as "The Other Half," into all things Van Hagar.

Yup and that's what it is, always has been and will forever be... VAN HAGAR!!!

There 'tis a difference.

Yup and that's what it is, always has been and will forever be... VAN HAGAR!!!

There 'tis a difference.
:sleep: ;)

:sleep: ;)

Don't I know you from somewhere? :confused:

When I want your opinion, I'll friggin' ask for it you twit. :p ;)

I have a question...

Is this the Anti-ARMBI thread??? :D

Don't I know you from somewhere? :confused:

When I want your opinion, I'll friggin' ask for it you twit. :p ;)
I think we met in a Roald Dahl novel somewhere in the past. :confused:

I think we met in a Roald Dahl novel somewhere in the past. :confused:

Who in the heck 'tis that guy?

Who in the heck 'tis that guy?
He wrote a book called the twits,mate.
I remember from when I was a kid,just like I remember VH being the undisputed kings of rock. :cool:

Meh, i'd say a culmination of the mistake in '96, cancer, two hip replacements and a divorce put him there. But then that is certainly open for debate. Regardless, cutting him down in public is not the way someone helps out a friend(again, back to prudent). It's just a way for Sam to make himself look good, IMHO. Otherwise once for the record is enough, and it's no comment the rest of the way.

Look, I am not trying to jump your back. We're all entitled to our own opinion, but the truth is, Ed isn't my friend and from the sound of it, Ed isn't Sam's friend. Sure, the cancer, the hip, the divorce and whatever else is terrible, but over the years, people have reached out to him and he hasn't gotten any better. From what I was saw in 2004, sadly, he's gotten worse. And as they say, "Only you can prevent forest fires." Well, Ed controls Ed and until he takes control, he will go down as a great guitarist, but one who never finished. I guess Sam could simply say no comment when asked about it, but why? Everyone knows it was a sour reunion and Sam just speaks his mind.

Hey more Teq & Cabo songs.....Imagine that! :brickwall

"One Sip and You'll Surrender"
"The Way We Live"
"I Love This Bar"
"I'll Take You There"

There are some things that cannot be argued when you talk about VH...


Sammy and Dave are both ego-maniacs that refuse to admit they had anything to do with any of the problems that existed when they were in VH.
Sammy and Dave love to bash Ed, because its easier then trying to figure out their mistakes in this mess we call "Van Halen".
Sammy is a promotion whore, and doesn't know how to keep band problems "in house".
Alex dosn't do shit to help, solve or resolve anything with his brother and his issues.
Mikey has for far too long been the band's punching bag and door mat.
Ed is FUCKED in his head! Plain, clean and simple.
Ed needs serious mental help.
The band should have never embarked on the 2004 tour without first sitting down with a mediator to hash out all of the old problems and solve them or at least voice them so they could move on.
After listening to all of Sammy's bullshit since the 2004 tour ended, they should have called the tour "Take The Money And Run 2004".

Thank you for posting the interview.

I think it's great that Sam is out there recording and touring. I think playing an hour's worth of VH tunes works for him and the fans.

As for him badmouthing Eddie, so be it. You can tell he is still pissed by what went down during the tour. The 2004 tour could've been the beginning of a new era but instead turned out to be the 'Good-bye Tour' for Sammy/VH and possibly Van Halen.

As for Eddie's playing during the tour, I saw two shows and I did notice that he noodled around more than he normally did. Some of the solos were altered some. Basically, he wasn't as tight as his playing on the Live: Right Here, Right Now discs.

As a Van Halen fan, I'm still hoping that they can go out the same way they came in....with a bang!

Of course I'd prefer for them to settle things with each other rather than bashing via press. But you can't get water from a stone, babe. I seriously doubt Sam and Mike haven't tried more than once to mend this fence BEFORE anything was said to any reporter. And EVERY fucking time Sam or Mike are interviewed, no matter if it's a hot sauce promotional junket or a new Wabo album, or what the fuck ever, they are inevitably queried about Van Halen from the interviewer.

Now they have several options to choose from in these prickly yet inevitable scenarios:

The ubiquitious 'no comment' cop out...Lame. No backbone and keeps us fans as always in perpetual dark.

Lie. To protect Eddie's privacy and issues. Say everything was fine when it most obviously was not. This might have been more effective and pertinent had Edward not shown thousands of us his issues onstage and during soundchecks in '04, plus the fact that his wife of twenty years divorced him, plus the rumored contributing factor that he had an affair, plus his past admitted revelations concerning his addictions.

Or, being human, and not demigod rock stars as we pretend them to be, they'll say it like it is, just as you or me or any other numbnuts might say, being fed up with getting asked the same old questions, tired of dancing around a issue that isn't directly your issue, yet through the nature of proximity in the public eye (i.e., Sam and Mike WANT to keep playing tunes, so they do magazine and radio interviews and put on concerts and such), they keep getting asked about the SAME OLD ISSUES.

You gotta say something sometime. You just look stupid denying again and again and again. Even if Sam's wrong, which seems highly unlikely given evidence to date, he's answering from his viewpoint, and what he believes to be true. Honesty, as Jimbo mentioned.

I find it hard to believe any of us could do any better in such a fucked up situation in such a dysfunctional celebrity duo dynamic. Myself included.

Too many people just want- or need - to look the other way, hoping that Ed will see the light for himself at some point.

Sam says it. Dave says it. Mike says it. Valerie says it. Dude's got issues. Should they be rankled in the press? No. Should they be addressed in some fashion in some way? Yes. If Ed won't deal with the stuff privately, what are they gonna do?

The answer many of you seem to want is, 'keep playing along and don't add to the clusterfuck until Eddie hopefully gets a grip."

Perhaps they have reached a point where they can no longer temper their impatience. Everybody's got a tolerance limit. And think about it...as frustrated as we are as fans, these guys aren't just business associates...they were once friends, tight friends, wives, whatever. Think about it. You've got a bud who was a real ass during whatever. He won't take your calls nor accept any responsibility. Your group of pals keeps telling you somebody's gotta say something. So you head on over to the bar where he's holed up, and there's a crowd inside. He won't come outside to talk to you privately.

So do you bawl your friend out in front of the whole bar, saying what you need to say, what needs to be said, regardless of the public scrutiny, or do you walk out and say fuck it, knowing your buds are just gonna ask you again, and again, and again....

Whaddya do?

Some things have to be said even if it means the end.

Such is life. For celebrities, it must be even more difficult.

I agree with all that you say except if it were my friend, there would still be a limit to the dirty laundry that is aired for public consumption. I can go into that bar and confront my friend without reminding them of every nasty comment made between the two of us. I had no problem with all comments made by Mikey and I have no problem with comments made by Sam until he takes it too far and that is an opinion about what is too far. Saying the guy has issues to deal with, saying things would have to change before another tour could take place, saying he wishes they were closer but it didn't work out that way, cool. :thumb: Repeating comments made when someone is in a drunken stupor, not cool. Giving details of behind the scenes in detail, not cool. If it were, I guess Valerie could talk about Edward pissing himself when he was passed out drunk and that would be okey dokey too. :rolleyes: (not saying that happened just using a hypothetical.) To me, class is someone like Nicole Kidman who was married to what is turning out to be a psycho but maintaining composure when interviewed time after time after time that she wishes him well. She is still getting little digs in like commenting about being able to wear high heels again or her publicist making it known that she was pregnant and had a miscarriage when her ex was tossing her to the curb. There are ways. And no revenge is sweeter than her winning the pinnacle award in the same profession as her ex who has never won it.

The truth is what it is, there's no changing it. But if it were me, I would still remember that alcoholism is a disease and certain things happen that are ugly when that person is under the influence as I am trying to help my "friend". The world is very aware of an alcoholic's behavior as I would bet almost every single person on this board has one in their family. I don't need to go into detail.

The band should have never embarked on the 2004 tour without first sitting down with a mediator to hash out all of the old problems and solve them or at least voice them so they could move on.


BINGO! We have a winner.

I remember when they were doing interviews for the tour, when asked about their past problems, Sammy said, "We're just going to act like it never happened. We're not going to talk about it or analyze it or hire a therapist. We're just going to forget about it and act like it never happened." He kinda snickered when he mentioned the therapist and it really came off as a poke at Metallica, who everyone knew was working with a therapist to resolve their problems. Well, guess what. Metallica is still touring and recording together.

This whole, "We're going to act like it never happened" was doomed from the start. I was rooting for them, but I was pretty sure that they wouldn't be able to pull it off. Just because they ignored the problems doesn't mean the problems go away. And they obviously didn't go away.

And it's not just Eddie. I think a lot of it's Eddie, but certainly not all of it. Unfortunately, my impression of Sammy is that he would deem it not worth the work and trouble of hashing out the problems with a therapist (or other 3rd party). I just don't see the VH problems ever getting resolved, because no one seems to be willing to put in the work.

Say what you will about Metallica. At least they believe they have something worth fighting for.

Well I definitely agree that this shit should be kept quiet. Take the high road. As much as I hate KISS, I can't remember hearing Paul or Gene badmouthing Ace on their reunion tours. As bad as Eddie may have been that was still light years beyond Ace.

While if Eddie has mental and substance abuse issues why drag them in public?

I did not like it when Roth aired them on his radio show either. If you have problems with Eddie just say "We could not just bury the hatchet. Who knows what is going to happen but at this moment I am doing solo stuff"

While I admit Eddie had some sub par moments he also rocked in two of the shows I went to. However every show Sammy missed lyrics because he was signing autograph's. I did not pay $100 to witness that.

Anyway's I hope within the next few days the VH website will get its first update in over a year. Sammy's picture is removed and maybe Mikey's. Mikey should tell Sammy to be quiet and take the high road. Both of them have taken the low road and while Eddie can be a prick, don't stoop down to his level.

Well I definitely agree that this shit should be kept quiet. Take the high road. As much as I hate KISS, I can't remember hearing Paul or Gene badmouthing Ace on their reunion tours. As bad as Eddie may have been that was still light years beyond Ace.



Gene has talked about both of them in the press plenty of times after they were replaced. He has also talked about their substance and attitude problems in his book as well.

Paul is usually a little more diplomatic about it.

Rule # 1 of the message forum: No matter what, if it's something negative happens then it's all Sammy's fault.
Rule # 2: If Sammy does something, it's all ego driven and to shill some product. He cares nothing about fans, the band, the band's legacy.


No offense to anyone, but Sammy hasn't said anything beyond there was a problem. I'm sure he could go into great detail if he wanted and completely ripped him apart. He didn't.

Like Dave once said "some people are only happy when they are miserable." That reflects on some attitudes in here.

Well I definitely agree that this shit should be kept quiet. Take the high road.

This is why Van Halen fans have been so miserable for so many year. Lack of information.

No information leads to speculation, speculation turns to rumor, rumor turns to having your hopes and expectations shattered.

Tell the truth, it's easier to remember.

Lack of communication is why most things fail if life. Ask anyone who's married.

Rule # 1 of the message forum: No matter what, if it's something negative happens then it's all Sammy's fault.
Rule # 2: If Sammy does something, it's all ego driven and to shill some product. He cares nothing about fans, the band, the band's legacy.


No offense to anyone, but Sammy hasn't said anything beyond there was a problem. I'm sure he could go into great detail if he wanted and completely ripped him apart. He didn't.

Like Dave once said "some people are only happy when they are miserable." That reflects on some attitudes in here.


this is dead on...Sam can't do anything right in alot of people's minds.

this is dead on...Sam can't do anything right in alot of people's minds.


Yeah, and he can't do any wrong in the eyes of the rest.....so what ?

I love how now he feels the fans deserve to hear obscure VH songs, and getting him to play any tunes like that when he was IN the band was like pulling teeth !
Where was this attitude 10 years ago when every set-list was the same tour after tour !

Yeah, and he can't do any wrong in the eyes of the rest.....so what ?

I love how now he feels the fans deserve to hear obscure VH songs, and getting him to play any tunes like that when he was IN the band was like pulling teeth !
Where was this attitude 10 years ago when every set-list was the same tour after tour !

Yes, because Sammy dictated everything in that bad. It was all on Sammy to determine the set list from show to show. Funny how his solo tours have different songs each night, but the VH tours didn't switch much up. It's all Sammy's fault.

No, Sammy isn't perfect, and he has his faults that have damaged the band too, but some people always place the blame soley on him, which is just silly.

Also, Sammy isn't singing the classic VH tunes, but maybe he's matured over time, maybe he knows this might be the fans only time to hear this music or maybe he's just sticking it to the brothers. No matter what, it's all speculation.

However we get it Sammy = Evil. As I posted above, everything is all his fault, nobody elses.

People who believe Eddie has taken the 'high road' are fooling themselves.

One does not get kudos simply for shutting the fuck up. And he's NOT merely keeping quiet. HE DOESN'T CARE ENOUGH TO DEAL WITH IT, public or private, not for the fans, not for the band. There's no noble intent involved here. It's called denial.

I'll grant it could be possible he currently doesn't have the strength or conviction to face whatever demons caused all the fallout. But if it was enough to piss off Mike, or motivate Valerie to divorce, it must be a pretty fucking low road he's on; it's not just a portrait of a broken man.

In other words, he must be being an ASS too, along with all the other avoidance issues alcoholism creates.

Yes, because Sammy dictated everything in that bad. It was all on Sammy to determine the set list from show to show. Funny how his solo tours have different songs each night, but the VH tours didn't switch much up. It's all Sammy's fault.




In this particular instance, yes, it is all Sam's fault ! He always contended that he hated singing other peoples songs and would only do the usual tunes when his arm was twisted. Then he leaves the band, Gary comes in and we hear Unchained, Romeo Delight, Mean Street, I'm the One, etc.. So who would you think was to blame ?
I have nothing against Hagar, he was a nice choice to continue Van Halen's success, I just wish he'd quit ragging on my hero every opportunity that he gets, and move on with his solo career and tequila sales !

Hasn't he ever heard the expression about kicking a guy when he's down ! :rolleyes:

Ok for you "Sammy is the truth" people out there. Please don't say everybody here thinks no matter what Sammy says is BS. Looking at the posts up till page 5 reveals some interesting info.

You have 16 people agreeing with Sammy and the way he says it.

You have about 9 people saying he should shut up and keep quiet

You have about 16 people not bashing Sammy or Eddie outside of maybe he did play sloppy some times. However not being critical of either person to form an opinion.

This is not the number of posts but posters. I got tired of counting by the middle of page 5 however it seems the general consensus at VH Links is that Sammy is doing the right thing and is not the problem with VH. Its Eddie.

Congratulations Sammy lovers!!! You are now the majority. VH Links can no longer be known as a EVH Apologist site. Its a Sammy and Mikey site.

Cry not you fellow EVH fans. We can now use the "Eddie" card since we are a minority. I am going to organize a march along with the Illigal Immigrants on May 1st.

Ok the last two paragraphs are a joke to some degree but please quit saying that Sammy is the red headed step child around here. You guys are no different then the EVH boys or the Rothards around here. You put on your blinders and nail Sammy up on the cross like we do with Eddie and Dave.

The whole band is at fault because its been ongoing for almost 30 years. Yes I mean Mikey too.

People who believe Eddie has taken the 'high road' are fooling themselves.

One does not get kudos simply for shutting the fuck up. And he's NOT merely keeping quiet. HE DOESN'T CARE ENOUGH TO DEAL WITH IT, public or private, not for the fans, not for the band. There's no noble intent involved here. It's called denial.

I'll grant it could be possible he currently doesn't have the strength or conviction to face whatever demons caused all the fallout. But if it was enough to piss off Mike, or motivate Valerie to divorce, it must be a pretty fucking low road he's on; it's not just a portrait of a broken man.

In other words, he must be being an ASS too, along with all the other avoidance issues alcoholism creates.

Ok, ok, no need to holler. :D

Ok, ok, no need to holler. :D


LOL ;)

I'm not trying to be head Ed basher, honest.

But I can no longer pretend the other shoe hasn't dropped.

In Vegas, when he came out and flipped us all off, I thought, 'he's just being quirky." When he sipped wine out of Gatorade bottles, I was like 'he's a rockstar, no big whoop.' When he talked shit about Sam and Mike to 150 five stars, I was like "ok, he's moody today." When his solo was wacked out, I was like 'hey, he's experimenting, cool beans.'

When Alex said they were making a new album with Sam, I was like 'cool beans.'

When Sam and Mike offered their points of view, I was like 'uncool beans.'

As some more astute folk around here have poignantly offered several times over the last two years, fuck giving us new music, fuck reforming the band, fuck public opinion and expectation, fuck all that rock horseshit. Just get healthy and be a good father.

That's the only thing he should be focusing on.

Now that's some very astute observating. :thumb:

And I heartily agree.

We can only pray that he is doing that very thing, right here, right now.




Then come back and give us some kick ass music.........:cool:

here we go round and round and round

Yeah well I guess that signing every fucking thing that got thrown up on stage insted of singing the songs is his idea of professionalism.At the concert I went to he didn't miss one word of a song while singing stuff. Plus I enjoyed having my Van Halen jersey signed.

I will move this to the new Sammy forum.