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Fabulous Shadow aka VHL
04.17.02, 09:29 AM
So after all the Brad Starks "NO NEWS IS GOOD NEWS" BS we've heard for the last year and the mods "We'll tell you WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT" crap that we have been force fed on top of it, it appears that the BIG PD mods were as much in the dark as the rest of us were...They have been officially knocked off their pedestals!What do you think will become of them? After all, I remember a time when a few of them thought that being a PD MOD made them shoe-ins for back stage passes and that kissing Brads ass made them important...Well, word is out now and it's OVER! Go ahead, re-open the "DOME" I doubt anyone will be in a big hurry to post there. It's almost embarrasing, the way all the fans were kept waiting and hoping and the way that Brad and the mods kept BAITING everyone to keep us interested . Go bury your heads in the sand and come down to EARTH, your party is OVER!

THE NEW NEWS IS GOOD NEWS and I couldn't be happier!

FORD
04.17.02, 09:31 AM
Nice to see that someone else has a realistic view of the late and unlamented Blue Pasture ;)

MDoggie
04.17.02, 09:35 AM
Oh FORD, I usually agree with everything you say, just take a look back at my posts and realize it smile.gif And I agree with most of your politics, although don't bother joining in on Political threads on this board because, well, I don't feel a desire to smile.gif

FORD
04.17.02, 09:38 AM
Originally posted by MDoggie:
Oh FORD, I usually agree with everything you say, just take a look back at my posts and realize it smile.gif And I agree with most of your politics, although don't bother joining in on Political threads on this board because, well, I don't feel a desire to smile.gif I couldn't blame you for that. Hell, one word against His Fraudulency, and the GOP hit squads are all over your ass :rolleyes:

Crown Royal
04.17.02, 09:46 AM
What does this have to do with the Sam & Dave tour????

:confused: :confused: :confused:

Fabulous Shadow aka VHL
04.17.02, 09:52 AM
Originally posted by Crown Royal:
What does this have to do with the Sam & Dave tour????

:confused: :confused: :confused: WEll, Just the fact that VH is not invoved in this tour at all and that we were led to believe (for a really long time) that good things were going to happen with VH and DLR. TO me this press conference pretty much states that we were suckered!

dirtymovies
04.17.02, 09:53 AM
:rolleyes: No idea :rolleyes: Give me a shot of Cabo CR...

Crown Royal
04.17.02, 09:57 AM
Originally posted by dirtymovies:
:rolleyes: No idea :rolleyes: Give me a shot of Cabo CR...DM my friend, long time no talk.

How have you been??

One Cabo comin' up!!!

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tap1966
04.17.02, 10:11 AM
I miss the PD - they should have at least left open the "personal, whiney, grudge bullshit" forum.

JMJ
04.17.02, 10:36 AM
Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow aka VHL:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Crown Royal:
What does this have to do with the Sam & Dave tour????

:confused: :confused: :confused: WEll, Just the fact that VH is not invoved in this tour at all and that we were led to believe (for a really long time) that good things were going to happen with VH and DLR. TO me this press conference pretty much states that we were suckered!</font>[/QUOTE]we weren't suckered. who here really thought something good would come of vh and dlr anytime soon? they haven't communicated with us at all for whatever reason. so based on that, how were we led to believe anything good would happen? i can't believe people would honestly take brad's word seriously. it should be clear to everyone that nothing is on the table right now and may not ever be again.

if you think vh is secretly working with dave or sam or both, you're missing the whole deal here...

i don't see how vh not speaking to the fanbase has led us to believe anything except for the fact that one of two things is possible...

ed is very sick

ed and al don't give 2 shits

JMJ

Fabulous Shadow aka VHL
04.17.02, 10:41 AM
I think your right to a point JMJ. But I do believe that they "KEPT us going" for their own selfish reasons...Have you never wanted to believe something so bad? Made it easy to play into their game...

[ April 17, 2002 at 11:42 AM: Message edited by: Fabulous Shadow aka VHL ]</p>

dirtymovies
04.17.02, 10:52 AM
Originally posted by Crown Royal:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by dirtymovies:
:rolleyes: No idea :rolleyes: Give me a shot of Cabo CR...DM my friend, long time no talk.

How have you been??

One Cabo comin' up!!!

graemlins/thumb.gif graemlins/thumb.gif </font>[/QUOTE]Gracias mi amigo! I've been good - better now that the tour is official. How 'bout you my man?

FORD
04.17.02, 10:55 AM
Originally posted by dirtymovies:
Gracias mi amigo! ??

Crown Royal
04.17.02, 10:57 AM
Originally posted by dirtymovies:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Crown Royal:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by dirtymovies:
:rolleyes: No idea :rolleyes: Give me a shot of Cabo CR...DM my friend, long time no talk.

How have you been??

One Cabo comin' up!!!

graemlins/thumb.gif graemlins/thumb.gif </font>[/QUOTE]Gracias mi amigo! I've been good - better now that the tour is official. How 'bout you my man?</font>[/QUOTE]No too bad DM!!!

Just waiting for summer to come.

I'm real glad about the tour. Not too sure how close to the Winnipeg area they will come, so I may just have to fly somewhere to see this. I really do not want to miss this.

Interesting though, we have an outdoor classic rock music festival weekend each year around July. Both Dave and Sam have played at it in the past few years. Sam said he had an absolute blast playing at it and would definitely come back if invited.

Well Sam, you're invited. Bring your new friend Dave along!!!

:cool: graemlins/thumb.gif

Vince G.
04.17.02, 10:57 AM
Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow aka VHL:
So after all the Brad Starks "NO NEWS IS GOOD NEWS" BS we've heard for the last year and the mods "We'll tell you WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT" crap that we have been force fed on top of it, it appears that the BIG PD mods were as much in the dark as the rest of us were...They have been officially knocked off their pedestals!What do you think will become of them? After all, I remember a time when a few of them thought that being a PD MOD made them shoe-ins for back stage passes and that kissing Brads ass made them important...Well, word is out now and it's OVER! Go ahead, re-open the "DOME" I doubt anyone will be in a big hurry to post there. It's almost embarrasing, the way all the fans were kept waiting and hoping and the way that Brad and the mods kept BAITING everyone to keep us interested. Go bury your heads in the sand and come down to EARTH, your party is OVER!

THE NEW NEWS IS GOOD NEWS and I couldn't be happier!You know, I was waiting for a comment like this to appear.

As a former mod at the PD, I will tell you right here, right now...

...NONE of us EVER knew ANYTHING in relation to the band's status. Period. That had been stated and reinstated time after time, yet every single PD member just couldn't see that. Or rather, they did, they just refused to believe it.

Beileve what you want, I don't care. But I, and the rest of the fellow mods, knew just as much as every single one of you that frequented the PD.

Nobody was ever promised backstage passes, promos, or any other freebies. It wasn't even ever mentioned. If you felt "baited", then you obviously read far too much into what you were told.

When the PD was shut down, indefinitely, none of us ever received a warning. So, once again, for something like that, we were just as much in the loop as any of you. Imagine getting up, taking your shower, eating your breakfast and driving to work. Only, when you arrive at your place of business, you find the doors have been chained and locked. That's what it was like, okay?

And, I disagree. The party is only just beginning. It's just a shame Ed and Al refuse to RSVP.

Crown Royal
04.17.02, 10:58 AM
Originally posted by JMJ:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow aka VHL:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Crown Royal:
What does this have to do with the Sam & Dave tour????

:confused: :confused: :confused: WEll, Just the fact that VH is not invoved in this tour at all and that we were led to believe (for a really long time) that good things were going to happen with VH and DLR. TO me this press conference pretty much states that we were suckered!</font>[/QUOTE]we weren't suckered. who here really thought something good would come of vh and dlr anytime soon? they haven't communicated with us at all for whatever reason. so based on that, how were we led to believe anything good would happen? i can't believe people would honestly take brad's word seriously. it should be clear to everyone that nothing is on the table right now and may not ever be again.

if you think vh is secretly working with dave or sam or both, you're missing the whole deal here...

i don't see how vh not speaking to the fanbase has led us to believe anything except for the fact that one of two things is possible...

ed is very sick

ed and al don't give 2 shits

JMJ</font>[/QUOTE]"Things can change on a Dime...."

Joe5150
04.17.02, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by Vince G.:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow aka VHL:
So after all the Brad Starks "NO NEWS IS GOOD NEWS" BS we've heard for the last year and the mods "We'll tell you WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT" crap that we have been force fed on top of it, it appears that the BIG PD mods were as much in the dark as the rest of us were...They have been officially knocked off their pedestals!What do you think will become of them? After all, I remember a time when a few of them thought that being a PD MOD made them shoe-ins for back stage passes and that kissing Brads ass made them important...Well, word is out now and it's OVER! Go ahead, re-open the "DOME" I doubt anyone will be in a big hurry to post there. It's almost embarrasing, the way all the fans were kept waiting and hoping and the way that Brad and the mods kept BAITING everyone to keep us interested. Go bury your heads in the sand and come down to EARTH, your party is OVER!

THE NEW NEWS IS GOOD NEWS and I couldn't be happier!You know, I was waiting for a comment like this to appear.

As a former mod at the PD, I will tell you right here, right now...

...NONE of us EVER knew ANYTHING in relation to the band's status. Period. That had been stated and reinstated time after time, yet every single PD member just couldn't see that. Or rather, they did, they just refused to believe it.

Beileve what you want, I don't care. But I, and the rest of the fellow mods, knew just as much as every single one of you that frequented the PD.

Nobody was ever promised backstage passes, promos, or any other freebies. It wasn't even ever mentioned. If you felt "baited", then you obviously read far too much into what you were told.

When the PD was shut down, indefinitely, none of us ever received a warning. So, once again, for something like that, we were just as much in the loop as any of you. Imagine getting up, taking your shower, eating your breakfast and driving to work. Only, when you arrive at your place of business, you find the doors have been chained and locked. That's what it was like, okay?

And, I disagree. The party is only just beginning. It's just a shame Ed and Al refuse to RSVP.</font>[/QUOTE]Vince,

How the hell are you?!

Are you the guy with the Van Halen tickets?! tongue.gif

Vince G.
04.17.02, 11:09 AM
I could be. :D

(Joe E? Noni?)

Joe5150
04.17.02, 11:12 AM
Originally posted by Vince G.:
I could be. :D

(Joe E? Noni?)That's the name they gave me! graemlins/drunk.gif

Vince G.
04.17.02, 11:15 AM
Originally posted by Joe5150:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Vince G.:
I could be. :D

(Joe E? Noni?)That's the name they gave me! graemlins/drunk.gif </font>[/QUOTE]You know where the front office is, don't know?

Go there, ask for my email addy, and email me privately.

Joe5150
04.17.02, 11:32 AM
You know where the front office is, don't know?

You dick!!!

Go there, ask for my email addy, and email me privately.

graemlins/thumb.gif

[ April 17, 2002 at 12:33 PM: Message edited by: Joe5150 ]</p>

D.O.A.
04.17.02, 11:37 AM
Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow aka VHL:
So after all the Brad Starks "NO NEWS IS GOOD NEWS" BS we've heard for the last year and the mods "We'll tell you WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT" crap that we have been force fed on top of it, it appears that the BIG PD mods were as much in the dark as the rest of us were...They have been officially knocked off their pedestals!What do you think will become of them? After all, I remember a time when a few of them thought that being a PD MOD made them shoe-ins for back stage passes and that kissing Brads ass made them important...Well, word is out now and it's OVER! Go ahead, re-open the "DOME" I doubt anyone will be in a big hurry to post there. It's almost embarrasing, the way all the fans were kept waiting and hoping and the way that Brad and the mods kept BAITING everyone to keep us interested . Go bury your heads in the sand and come down to EARTH, your party is OVER!

THE NEW NEWS IS GOOD NEWS and I couldn't be happier!I'm sure all of your other usernames would agree with you. :rolleyes:

Weren't you the one of the "positive group" over there? Posting "good things come to those who wait"?

Pathetic. Take your meds and STFU! graemlins/wtf.gif

*yip yip yip yip yip*

Great, here come the lapdogs. :rolleyes:

Crazy Pete
04.17.02, 12:06 PM
I never once felt baited or led on over there.

I was just as confused as I ever was. graemlins/drunk.gif

Fabulous Shadow aka VHL
04.17.02, 12:18 PM
I was waiting for a comment like this to appear.

As a former mod at the PD, I will tell you right here, right now...

...NONE of us EVER knew ANYTHING in relation to the band's status. Period. That had been stated and reinstated time after time, yet every single PD member just couldn't see that. Or rather, they did, they just refused to believe it.

Beileve what you want, I don't care. But I, and the rest of the fellow mods, knew just as much as every single one of you that frequented the PD.

Nobody was ever promised backstage passes, promos, or any other freebies. It wasn't even ever mentioned. If you felt "baited", then you obviously read far too much into what you were told.

When the PD was shut down, indefinitely, none of us ever received a warning. So, once again, for something like that, we were just as much in the loop as any of you. Imagine getting up, taking your shower, eating your breakfast and driving to work. Only, when you arrive at your place of business, you find the doors have been chained and locked. That's what it was like, okay?

And, I disagree. The party is only just beginning. It's just a shame Ed and Al refuse to RSVP

Well, Vince, That may be true in your case but there were others who acted like they had inside info and just couldn't tell us...

And as for you DOA...GET over it already, go back to your pasture!

[ April 17, 2002 at 01:20 PM: Message edited by: Fabulous Shadow aka VHL ]</p>

Top Timmy
04.17.02, 12:24 PM
Originally posted by Vince G.:
You know where the front office is, don't know?

Go there, ask for my email addy, and email me privately.Ask for Mike Damone! graemlins/devil.gif

D.O.A.
04.17.02, 12:32 PM
Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow aka VHL:

And as for you DOA...GET over it already, go back to your pasture!Get over what, that you're posting bullshit? If the Dome opened back up you would gleefully go there and post more nonsensical crap, just like you do here.

Now, you're LYING, saying you never defended the Dome. BULLSHIT. Is that why you had like three or four usernames over there? :rolleyes:

Nobody believed anything was going to happen with the reunion, the only people idiotic enough to believe that were all the people that posted "positive" things there and that included YOU. Four months after the Dome closed, you post this shit. Why? Are you cool now? graemlins/drunk.gif

I'm thinkin' you need to return to your "pasture"..and stay there.

LA
04.17.02, 12:34 PM
I don't think it's fair to single out mods.

Everyone makes a personal choice to believe what they want to believe.

Fabulous Shadow aka VHL
04.17.02, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by D.O.A.:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow aka VHL:

And as for you DOA...GET over it already, go back to your pasture!Get over what, that you're posting bullshit? If the Dome opened back up you would gleefully go there and post more nonsensical crap, just like you do here.

Now, you're LYING, saying you never defended the Dome. BULLSHIT. Is that why you had like three or four usernames over there? :rolleyes:

Nobody believed anything was going to happen with the reunion, the only people idiotic enough to believe that were all the people that posted "positive" things there and that included YOU. Four months after the Dome closed, you post this shit. Why? Are you cool now? graemlins/drunk.gif

I'm thinkin' you need to return to your "pasture"..and stay there.</font>[/QUOTE]I did like the Dome alot and my multiple user name is old news so GET OVER IT! But in my opinion, which I do believe I'm entitled to, some of the mods lead ME to beleive that they had more info then they really did.

Is there some reason why you always seem to skirt on my coat tails? Am I really THIS important to you? You really need to find other interests...

D.O.A.
04.17.02, 12:56 PM
Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow aka VHL:
I did like the Dome alot and my multiple user name is old news so GET OVER IT! But in my opinion, which I do believe I'm entitled to, some of the mods lead ME to beleive that they had more info then they really did.

Is there some reason why you always seem to skirt on my coat tails? Am I really THIS important to you? You really need to find other interests...HAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA! Your "coat tails"? Fuck off. I don't need your fucking coat tails, nor do I want them.

Was it important enough for you to start a thread about it? Apparently, it was. Was it important enough for you to bitch about things that happened months ago? Apparently, it was. If you were stupid enough to believe mods at a board that's your problem. How about some names? you got proof? Certainly, not your Dome mod buddies, eh?

Sorry, YOU'RE the one who needs other interests, bedsides, dragging up the past.

Get over yourself. graemlins/wtf.gif

[ April 17, 2002 at 02:01 PM: Message edited by: D.O.A. ]</p>

Fabulous Shadow aka VHL
04.17.02, 01:04 PM
Call me naive...

Alrighty then, with that being said...How bout those VH brothers? I wonder if and when we'll hear anything from them? I hope Eddie is doing ok... OUTTIE!

Zahzoo
04.17.02, 01:10 PM
Originally posted by LA:
I don't think it's fair to single out mods.

Everyone makes a personal choice to believe what they want to believe.LA You are right ON!!!! graemlins/thumb.gif graemlins/thumb.gif

If one of those dirty dog mods gots fleas then they all do!!! Let's get some rope and torches... round em all up!! I mean all of em Dome, Links, Army, Rocks, Vault, etc... All Mods and let's have Mod roast and Bar-B-Q!!! Rid the Earth of this vile scourge!!! graemlins/scared.gif graemlins/bounce.gif

Crown Royal
04.17.02, 01:12 PM
Originally posted by Zahzoo:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by LA:
I don't think it's fair to single out mods.

Everyone makes a personal choice to believe what they want to believe.LA You are right ON!!!! graemlins/thumb.gif graemlins/thumb.gif

If one of those dirty dog mods gots fleas then they all do!!! Let's get some rope and torches... round em all up!! I mean all of em Dome, Links, Army, Rocks, Vault, etc... All Mods and let's have Mod roast and Bar-B-Q!!! Rid the Earth of this vile scourge!!! graemlins/scared.gif graemlins/bounce.gif </font>[/QUOTE]I'll bring the BEER!!!!!!

graemlins/thumb.gif :D ;)

Lou
04.17.02, 01:16 PM
There's no question in my mind the PD was opened up originally to build up the excitement because, at the time, there was going to be a new Van HALEN album on the horizon, meaning with DLR singing. Michael Anthony indicated as much at NAMM 2001. If they hadn't really been planning a new album back in October 2000, it never would have been opened in the first place.

When things fell through to the point of no return, then they closed it. And frankly I think it will remain closed until they think a new album is a real possibility again. Unfortunately for the ass-kissers, that will probably be never. Oh well, no backstage passes for you.

Fabulous Shadow aka VHL
04.17.02, 01:21 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Zahzoo:

If one of those dirty dog mods gots fleas then they all do!!! Let's get some rope and torches... round em all up!! I mean all of em Dome, Links, Army, Rocks, Vault, etc... All Mods and let's have Mod roast and Bar-B-Q!!! Rid the Earth of this vile scourge!!!

Aw, I didnt mean to hurt any feelings ZahZoo...

Not all of um are bad and if it sounded stereotypical then I'm sorry. I guess you find ONE BAD APPLE and...

I can think of one certain mod I wouldn't mind tying up though...

Zahzoo
04.17.02, 01:56 PM
No hurt feelings around here!!! Hell I'm up for a good Bar-B-Q!!! Crown Royal is bringing the beer and I'll sport for the Crown Royal and Jack!!!

Let's toast the infidels!!!! :D :D

SideNote:
(for the humor impaired... Classic ZahZoo Sarcasm Mode is ON... I'm making fun of the trend of anytime there's something frustrating going on... the Dome Whipping Post opens for business. As I said before... the boards are all about the people and all the VH boards have great people!!! Mods included!!)

Fabulous Shadow aka VHL
04.17.02, 02:08 PM
Originally posted by Zahzoo:

SideNote:
(for the humor impaired... Classic ZahZoo Sarcasm Mode is ON... I'm making fun of the trend of anytime there's something frustrating going on... the Dome Whipping Post opens for business. As I said before... the boards are all about the people and all the VH boards have great people!!! Mods included!!)ASS KISSER! ;)

LA
04.17.02, 02:09 PM
Originally posted by Zahzoo:
SideNote:
(for the humor impaired... Classic ZahZoo Sarcasm Mode is ON... I'm making fun of the trend of anytime there's something frustrating going on... the Dome Whipping Post opens for business. As I said before... the boards are all about the people and all the VH boards have great people!!! Mods included!!)Not that I'm humor impaired ;) ... I just don't know you all that well... smile.gif

I was trying to figure out what the hell to say to set you right! smile.gif Cuz attacking mods was NOT the intention of my post... not here, or anywhere redface.gif ... quite the contrary.

When someone makes an inference, it is that person who draws the conclusion, not the person who makes the implication.

[ April 17, 2002 at 03:12 PM: Message edited by: LA ]</p>

Fabulous Shadow aka VHL
04.17.02, 02:15 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by LA:

When someone makes an inference, it is that person who draws the conclusion, not the person who makes the implication.

Not being a wiseass here LA but could you please explain what that means in regular English...

wolffan
04.17.02, 02:47 PM
Originally posted by FORD:
Nice to see that someone else has a realistic view of the late and unlamented Blue Pasture ;) I'm with you!

Test5150
04.17.02, 06:07 PM
Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow aka VHL:


I can think of one certain mod I wouldn't mind tying up though...Shit, didn't you have ENOUGH fun with Mephisto when you had him at your place? :D

But seriously, back to the original point of your rant......which was.....uh.....what WAS your point anyways? :confused: graemlins/irked.gif

Test5150
04.17.02, 06:10 PM
oh and by the way, what DOES this thread have to do with Dave & Sammy anyways?

YOKO
04.17.02, 08:23 PM
D.O.A......You go girl :D graemlins/bounce.gif graemlins/bounce.gif

Top Timmy
04.17.02, 10:50 PM
This just turned into a good old fashioned bash fest didn't it. graemlins/irked.gif

Thanks to all who participated. Topic closed!

Fabulous Shadow aka VHL
04.18.02, 08:43 AM
Originally posted by Chelle:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow aka VHL:


I can think of one certain mod I wouldn't mind tying up though...Shit, didn't you have ENOUGH fun with Mephisto when you had him at your place? :D

</font>[/QUOTE]Chelle, your pathetic jealousy over the whole Trey thing is really getting pathetic! Trust me dear, had I wanted Trey, I could have had him in an instant. Fact is this, he didn't want YOU because of YOU, not because of ME! NOTHING happened between Trey and I because I KNEW that you were interested in him. He didnt feel the same, but I still respected your feelings for him. ASK him.

Now I have heard/read the things you have been saying to MY friends about me and the whole TREY INFATUATION...and I have been pissed but kept it to myself, but coming here and posting an out right lie is just going WAY over the line. REALIZE this, you are not hurting ME, but you are hurting Sweeny and MVH! What have they ever done to you? Ok, well Trey was uninterested, but heck, that's just chemistry. He has been a good friend to you. I invited you into my home. I was hospitable to you. I fed you and treated you like a friend, regardless of our pety jealousies on the boards. You acceted my hospitality for your OWN self gain and then took privy info, such as mens underwear, condoms and HOTS to slander me on the web. I guess since that didnt work you've lowered yourself to lies. I guess in your efforts to hurt me, you don't care who gets dragged down along the way. You are a class act girl!

You once asked someone what I have that you dont??? Try self respect and respect for others... Oh and pearly whites...

Brett
04.18.02, 08:46 AM
I opened this post to respond and to let Fab have one last say as she wanted to clear the air and frankly I'm allowing it in hopes all parties concerned will move on now from this.

Now here is my say on this. I had no intention of getting involved in this situation, it's not really something I am comfortable at all with, but at this point I have to get involved because it's now getting to a level I don't approve of and involving this board in personal situations that SHOULD NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES be posted on here.

If this shit was allowed on other boards, I don't care, it isn't allowed here. I don't want to see anymore exchange of these very personal attacks, which may or may not be true. Frankly I don't care either way, it stops now. If I see it anymore, I'm banning the parties involved, no questions and no reprieves.

Take this stuff to email or just avoid each other, I don't care, but I don't want in on this board in any shape or form anymore.