There is always so much talk about the Oakland 1981 video, and it's status as the most sought after Classic Van Halen era item, it got me wondering, what would be the equivalent of the Sam era? Is there one? What would you love to see released from the Sammy years? The best I could come up with was the completed recording of Between Us Two. What would you guys like to see released one day?

IMO there isn't one, since they released LWON, which was pretty damn good, and the Toronto PPV is out there and professionally shot, which I thought was an awesome concert and tour.

I thought the latter stages of the Balance tour was their pinnacle with Sam, Ed was relatively sober and totally focused on his playing because of his hip, and they were playing some tunes that kicked ass live, like Aftershock, Feelin, Amsterdam, etc. Ed was also pretty unbelievable soloing over the end of Eagles Fly on that tour. I know the shows I went to were jaw dropping performances.

I would think the Holy Grail might be the footage that was cut out of LWAN.

Good Enough, maybe Wild Thing and Addicted to Love.

the only thing i'd like to see released from the hagar days is sam himself...i kid, i kid...

a proshot show that i'd like to see from the hagar days is a Monsters of Rock stadium show...

a proshot show that i'd like to see from the hagar days is a Monsters of Rock stadium show...

That and/or a full proshot show fromt he OU812 Tour (setlists were a little different from the MOR weren't they? :confused: )

The full LWAN would be nice, and any unreleased songs layin around. :cool:

Yeah those w/b nice wouldn't they.

Think you hit the nail on the head with a completed and polished version of Between Us Two, 'Van Halen's Stairway to Heaven.'

Heck, I'd settle for Van Halen's Bonzos' Montreux.

Just shut up and release 'em, Ed.

Well he did say he was still waiting for VH's Stairway. :sssh:

IMO there isn't one, since they released LWON, which was pretty damn good, and the Toronto PPV is out there and professionally shot, which I thought was an awesome concert and tour.

I thought the latter stages of the Balance tour was their pinnacle with Sam, Ed was relatively sober and totally focused on his playing because of his hip, and they were playing some tunes that kicked ass live, like Aftershock, Feelin, Amsterdam, etc. Ed was also pretty unbelievable soloing over the end of Eagles Fly on that tour. I know the shows I went to were jaw dropping performances.

I'm with ya on this one!!!!


"It's 5150 Time"

The Holy Sammy Grail?

The 1996 Father's Day phone call that Eddie made to Sam telling him to go back to being a solo artist. Sam claimed that his answering machine recorded the whole thing.

The 1996 Father's Day phone call that Eddie made to Sam telling him to go back to being a solo artist. Sam claimed that his answering machine recorded the whole thing.

Now that would be nice to hear..

Pro-shot of the "Live: Right Here, Right Now" tour. Especially, when they did 'Rockin in the Free World' to end the show. That rocked! Oh yeah, this was the tour when they brought out 'Unchained' for the first time with Sammy.

where is this fabled " between us" ?

I would absolutely kill to hear the VERY FIRST jam session they recorded. Sam's "audution" if you will. The one where they played what would become Good Enough & Summer Nights among some other jam tunes. Sam later said they used alot of the same lyrics he made up on the spot that session.

I remember WB recorded a Sacramento show in November 21, 1988 and Sammy and I think Alex commeneted that it was one of the most down and dirty rock n' roll shows they've ever been a part of. They played an early version of "Pleaseuredome" and closed the show with "My Generation". It seems like they were really loose and inspired and havin' fun.

Since it was pro, I'd like to hear that rather than my crappy bootleg!

To me, it could be the "Closer To You / Between Us Two" song.
Just for the curiosity of it.

Ed was also pretty unbelievable soloing over the end of Eagles Fly on that tour.

It's sad that ^ is the closest thing to Ice Cream Man that King Edward has played since 1984...

I'd like to hear some of the pow-wows and board meetings between the Roth and Hagar camp for and during the Roth/Hagar Tour of 2002.:devil:

It's sad that ^ is the closest thing to Ice Cream Man that King Edward has played since 1984...

I'd like to hear some of the pow-wows and board meetings between the Roth and Hagar camp for and during the Roth/Hagar Tour of 2002.:devil:

yeah, Ed hasn't played anything good since Dave left....c'mon man. You're like a broken record.

yeah, Ed hasn't played anything good since Dave left....c'mon man. You're like a broken record.

B to the B...I meant that it's sad to me...that Edward and the band jamming at the end of Where Eagles Fly after Sammy's acoustic 'intro' is the closest thing that there is to the mighty Ice Cream Man that the original line-up hasn't cooked up since '84...an' when have I said that Edward hasn't played anything good since Dave left? I'm usually complaining about Sammy's terrible lyricism or the fact that he screeches like a treeful of Chinese monkeys, not Edward's playing.

B to the B...I meant that it's sad to me...that Edward and the band jamming at the end of Where Eagles Fly after Sammy's acoustic 'intro' is the closest thing that there is to the mighty Ice Cream Man that the original line-up hasn't cooked up since '84...an' when have I said that Edward hasn't played anything good since Dave left? I'm usually complaining about Sammy's terrible lyricism or the fact that he screeches like a treeful of Chinese monkeys, not Edward's playing.


I meant not giving anything post 84 credit. I don't have a problem with people being pro Dave or pro Sammy, I have a problem with people who won't or can't acknowledge that both era's produced good music. now it might not be you're cup of tea and that's fine, you just don't have to kick the dead horse every chance you get. I think anyone who's been coming to this site for awhile, and I've been coming forever just didn't start posting until recently and then stopped and started...anyway, everyone knows you prefer pre 84 vh. Why invade a Sammy thread just to throw an insult?

I meant not giving anything post 84 credit. I don't have a problem with people being pro Dave or pro Sammy, I have a problem with people who won't or can't acknowledge that both era's produced good music. now it might not be you're cup of tea and that's fine, you just don't have to kick the dead horse every chance you get. I think anyone who's been coming to this site for awhile, and I've been coming forever just didn't start posting until recently and then stopped and started...anyway, everyone knows you prefer pre 84 vh. Why invade a Sammy thread just to throw an insult?

I wasn't invading a Sammy thread just to throw an insult. I wasn't invading a Sammy thread just to throw an insult. I was commenting on the version of Where Eagles Fly that IED had mentioned...lamenting the fact that the aforementioned version of Where Eagles Fly is the closest thing to hearing Eddie play Ice Cream Man since '84. I then went on to comment what my Holy Grail for Sammy would be--the meetings and arguments that took place surrounding the Roth/Hagar tour.

I wasn't invading a Sammy thread just to throw an insult. I wasn't invading a Sammy thread just to throw an insult. I was commenting on the version of Where Eagles Fly that IED had mentioned...lamenting the fact that the aforementioned version of Where Eagles Fly is the closest thing to hearing Eddie play Ice Cream Man since '84. I then went on to comment what my Holy Grail for Sammy would be--the meetings and arguments that took place surrounding the Roth/Hagar tour.

if I did the same thing in a Dave thread, like said "wow, Dave sure hasn't sang the same since 82" or something like that you know what reaction I'd be trying to get. Maybe it was unintentional but maybe you were trying to get a reaction and I'm the poor sap that reacted. Maybe I'm making too big a deal of it and sorry if I am but I just didn't see the point in adding that little jab. You could have said "I'd love to hear the meetings between Dave and Sam" and left it at that, whatever. No hard feelings.

I hate to be a pessimist (but I AM a Van Halen fan, so it's hard not to be), but I think that whatever we wish for, especially from the archives, or search for, we won't get.

Face it, it's time to "Dream another dream" because our Dreams get us nowhere!!

...actually that's beyond pessimism, that's downright negativity....oh well, thanks Van Halen..

I'd like to hear some of the pow-wows and board meetings between the Roth and Hagar camp for and during the Roth/Hagar Tour of 2002.


Me too Loons! Me too bruther! :devil:

I really don't think there was/is a Hagar Holy Grail, is there?

"Between Us Two" can't be the equivalent of Oakland. We heard Oakland and we know it rocks. We have proof.
No one has heard "Between Us Two" except the people who played on that song. We only read about it in interviews. They say it's great, but I'd wait till I hear it before declaring it "the Holy Grail."

Maybe not grail worthy, but I'd love to hear "Out of the Ether", just based on the name alone.

Sammy said that VH had a song for 0U812 that sounded like a Whitesnake song that was left off. I would like to hear that.

I'd like to hear a fully mastered version of "I Want Some Action".

I remember reading in one of Ed's interviews for the F.U.C.K album that there was a song left off there that sounded like a Genesis song. It was a keyboard song, which goes along with the Genesis reference.

I'll wish for anything and everything unreleased that's sitting on the shelves of 5150...good enough (pun intended:D )?:thumb:

Didn't "Between us Two" become "Year To The Day" or something off VH3?