Who do you like better Extreme or Metallica? I like Extreme better. I think Metallica is overated and Extreme is underated.

Vocals: Gary Cherone vs James Hetfield,
GARY'S A WAAAY BETTER SINGER!!! Even Nuno can sing better than Hetfield.

Guitars: Nuno vs. Kirk Hammett/Hetfield,
Nuno is better than both of them combined.

Bass: Pat Badger vs. Jason Newstead,
I like Badger better.

Drums: Paul Geary vs. Lars Ulrich,
I have to admit Lars is better.

Harmonies: Extreme vs. Metallica,
Metallica's harmonies are awful!
Extreme has great harmonies.http://www.vhlinks.com/vhlforum/smilies/cool.gif

Extreme wins 4-1. Extreme is a better band!!!

I prefer for a little bit "Metallica" , thinking that Extreme was a great band too !!

Eddie_italian from Italy

You can't really compare them. Extreme is funky metal and Metallica are the kings of metal. I also would not have compared Paul Geary to Lars because Lars is more like Extreme's second drummer Mike Mangini who is on tour with Stevie Vai. I am a very big Extreme fan though....in fact,I am listening to "Cupids Dead"

Metallica, but only because I'm more familiar with them. I did check out some pretty cool Extreme stuff a while back, and was impressed. Gary fits much better in Extreme than VH.

Gotta say Metallica, no contest. If Extreme is so much better, where are they now?

I'm definately thinking about getting all those Extreme albums that I missed along the way. For now though, I have to go with Metallica on this one. Not a bash of Extreme, I'm just much more familiar with Metallica.

uh, i'd have to say metallica because i'm more familiar with them. however, i have a beef with yankee rose saying that nuno is a better player than kirk hammet. i haven't heard very much of nuno's playing, but kirk hammet is amazing. this of course is old metallica from the 80's. i listened to "one" yesterday from and justice for all, and i don't think anyone can say kirk hammet doesn't have talent, that solo kicks ass. i can't comare him to nuno, but he's pretty damn good!!!

Kirk needs lessons from Nuno. Nuno kicks his ass. Gary can sing with Extreme,James can't sing period. Newstead is pretty cool and Lars just fucking rocks(or used to).Metallica of the 90's is worthless crap but Metallica of the 80's is awesome.I'll still give the nod to Extreme.

No contest at all. Metallica absolutely rocks hard for me. Kind of different music to compare though. By the way, just fyi, I saw Metallica in Japan and the tickets were mis-spelled as MEATLICKA!http://www.vhlinks.com/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gifhttp://www.vhlinks.com/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gif Thats a wierd place.

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i would have to say metallica,but i don't
own any extreme albums and i don't plan on getting any.if they put out a greatest hits album i would pick it up but that's
about it.who cares if james hetfield can
sing it's all about attitude.

Metallica, by a landslidehttp://www.vhlinks.com/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gif

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Laner- Kirk Hammet could not even be Nuno's guitar tech! Nuno could take James and Kirk in every way possible with the guitar. In fact, Nuno can even sing better then James too. Kirk is not in Nuno's league!

I agree that Gary is better then James, Pat is better then Jason, and Lars better then Paul. If you were adding up the score by each individual musician, Extreme would certainly win . . .but there is something a lot more then that!

INNOVATION! Metallica created their own sound and their own cult following without the success of video and singles. They paved the way for a new brand of Rock music just like Van Halen did nearly a decade before them. The thing with Extreme was they were not innovative really. They were a mutation of Van Halen's sound and Queen's harmonies, rolled in to the hair band genre. I think that is what separated their staying power and commercial success from Metallica's.

I didn't like Gary in VH, but ANYTHING is better than hearing former speed metaller hetfield sing sappy country ballads.

Metallica Are waaayyy overrated. Iron Maiden are THE definite Metal Act of the eighties, NO CONTEST. Anybody who disagree should first give a listen to their rocking new song, The Wicker Man.

Gee what's with all the Metallica bashing all of a sudden? Geez, from 1983-1990 they were an innovative, tight, incredible band that basically invented "thrash metal." Don't take that away from them. I never liked Iron Maiden in the 80's, I kinda thought they were silly, I was one of the few metalheads I guess who didn't like 'em. The funny thing is that my band does a cover of Maiden's "Flight Of Icarus" and I've only heard the song twice in my entire life. I don' t even know what the solo sounds like, so I just wing it everytime. http://www.vhlinks.com/vhlforum/smilies/smile.gif

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I think Metallica's Garage Days double cd that they put out recently is a big insult to their fans, all it is is a bunch of remakes. The released something simular to it in 1987 too,http://www.vhlinks.com/vhlforum/smilies/confused.gif what a joke. And people insult Van Halen for Diver Down because it has a couple of remakes on it. I do have the S & M album they put recently and it's cool. Great posts diggyd and Georgie but I think that Extreme is a unique band. Especially Extreme 3. Nuno's awesome!

I never understood why Extreme is labeled a hair band,they only had one album in the 80's and it was 1989. They were probably the best 90's band...besides Van Halen every year.

georgie, i will do some homework on nuno's stuff. i still think kirk hammett is amazing, though.
what do you guys think of cliff burton's stuff with metallica before he died? he's definitely better than newsted, but i can't compare them to extreme, because i don't know enough about them.

SwollenPrincess: Extreme was many things, including hair metal. Keep in mind that hair metal had more to do with style and sound than year or look. Extreme also incorporated funk metal, art rock/progressive rock and plain 'ol hard rock into their sound as well.

I know it is difficult for some Metallica fans to remain objective (especially the ones uhappy with Metallica's current direction) but James Hetfield is a better singer now than what he was in the '80s. In the '80s, Hetfield was basically a screamer and a shouter -- he wasn't singing. Now, he sings. Give the guy at least some credit. But you like what you like -- just try to be objective. http://www.vhlinks.com/vhlforum/smilies/smile.gif

As far as the Hammett vs Bettencourt debate. I personally believe that Bettencourt is a better guitarist when you compare technique. However, there is more to a guitarist than technique. There is also creativity and songwriting ability. These are both very subjective parts of a what makes a great guitarist so if you think Hammett is better, then he is.

It's like comparing apples to oranges....but if you put a gun to my head....Metallica would be it for me. It just depends on the mood. Let me put it to you this way: very rarely do I just slap in some Extreme. Metallica makes it in now and then, for a change of pace from Van Halen. But I don't hate either band....each has their merits.

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hey Mac, Extreme DO have a greatest hits cd called "an accidental collection of atoms" or something. Hard to find but it's a good reference to the band.

Both bands are very different and shouldn't be compared. Metallica just drips kick ass rock but Extreme held their own in their genre too.

Extreme. I've got a few of Metallica's albums but the only one's I really like are Master of Puppets and S&M. All of Extreme's stuff was killer. They just didn't put out enough.

This comment is coming for someone who REALLY knows Heavy Metal:


Metallica have not been Metal since 1996.

They are NOT the Kings of Metal.

They are hard rock now. They have completely denied their roots. They have said numerous times that they don't care about their old fans anymore. Some of their REAL fans from the eighties are those who created the finest metal bands of the 90's. Death/Control Denied, Iced Earth...


Iron Maiden and Iced Earth are MUCH better band than Metallica at this very moment. I won't try to argue with you using details, because it's pointless and english is not my native tongue and I'm not articulate enough. Simply put, compare Iced Earth latest album Something Wicked This Way Comes with Metallica's crap of the nineties. And tell me which one is better. I bet that none of you has ever heard any Iced Earth. Well, they represent what is best of Iron Maiden and old Metallica merged together.


Sorry, but I've been listening to metal for a long time, overground and underground bands, those who never get noticed, those who go for mainstream etc.. and trust me, Metallica are NOT metal anymore. Lars even said it.

I will not say they suck, as some of them may like them on this BB. But I'll say this: they have COMPLETELY betrayed the metal scene, by their comments, attitude, imagery, and musical direction.


By the way: my current opinion is currently pretty much the same as all hardcore metalheads that I know. Including most good metal bands.

Better metal bands than Metallica? Plenty of em. Iron Maiden, Pantera, Iced Earth, Control Denied, Blind Guardian, In Flames, Nevermore... list goes on.

Please read my MUCH more detailed and critical post about Metallica on the OPINIONS forum. Thanks. I shouldn't have posted this text in this topic in the first place.

Good post, Against my better judgement i'd have to go with Metallica only because of longevity. As far as guitarists, i'd have to go with Nuno, cuz he'd smoke both Metallica guitarists!

Old Metallica was cool , after 91 , fuck em .
I never understood what was so good about Extreme http://www.vhforums.com/vhlforum/smilies/confused.gif Just another band IMO that never inspired me to listen to them .

Ed6150,
Have you heard any Extreme? Maybe then you would understand.

This one made me laugh when I saw it.

There's absolutely no contest here. Metallica by a huge landslide over Extreme.


Despite all the Napster bullshit of late. Metallica from 1983 when Kill 'Em All came out to 1991 when the Black Album came out were the best Heavy Metal band EVER.

They made their mark on music.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by crashnjump:
Ed6150,
Have you heard any Extreme? Maybe then you would understand. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Of course I have heard of Extreme and I think they are HIGHLY overated myself . I know they had their HIT or TWO but did nothing to mark a notch in Rock & Roll history IMO .

I can count on one hand the number of Metallica songs that I like, and still have enough fingers left over to scratch my balls!!

On the other hand...Extreme...I'd have even more fingers left over for scratching! http://www.vhforums.com/vhlforum/smilies/wink.gif

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Know what I find kinda funny ?? Eddie stated in a INSIDE mag once he never heard any of Extreme's music and in another issue he says "I am not knocking Extreme , they are a great band , but Gary sounds different with us "

Uh , Eddie , uh , you said you never heard any of their music , and , uh , they are a great band ??? http://www.vhforums.com/vhlforum/smilies/confused.gif Don't kid yourself bro , Extreme was NOT a GREAT band .

Kirk Hammett sucks as a guitar player , maybe this Nuno cat is a better player , probably , but thats not saying much since Hammett isn't much competition , shit , Sammy Hagar would shit all over Hammett on guitar . Drummer , gotta go with Lars even though I think he is a asshole . Bass , Jason is cool . Vocals , I like Hetfield better , he sounds meaner , more pissed off .

[This message has been edited by Ed6150 (edited September 21, 2000 at 10:27 AM).]

METALLICA by far!

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Ed6150,
I was going to recommend some Extreme songs too you, seeing as how you've probably only heard one or two. But after reading how you're also a big Quiet Riot fan, I don't think I'll waste my time.

http://www.vhforums.com/vhlforum/smilies/rolleyes.gif , thus my tastes suck .

[This message has been edited by Ed6150 (edited September 21, 2000 at 02:11 PM).]

Now you're gettin' it http://www.vhforums.com/vhlforum/smilies/smile.gif

Actually, there is ONE band that we both like.

But c'mon Quiet Riot?

Ok man , I don't think Extreme suck , i just never got into them and heard anything that caught my ear , BUT I am always open to suggestions http://www.vhforums.com/vhlforum/smilies/smile.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ed6150:
Know what I find kinda funny ?? Eddie stated in a INSIDE mag once he never heard any of Extreme's music and in another issue he says "I am not knocking Extreme , they are a great band , but Gary sounds different with us "

Uh , Eddie , uh , you said you never heard any of their music , and , uh , they are a great band ??? http://www.vhforums.com/vhlforum/smilies/confused.gif Don't kid yourself bro , Extreme was NOT a GREAT band . <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Maybe Eddie heard some Extreme songs in between the interviews from "Inside." http://www.vhforums.com/vhlforum/smilies/wink.gif

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id have no choice but to pick metalica over extreme.

Extremely Boring VS Selloutica?

Who cares.

Both bands suck harder than a cheap fat whore!


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Extreme is great man! They are tight. And Ed man Sammy is not better than Kirk!

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Spanish Doctor:
Extremely Boring VS Selloutica?

Who cares.

Both bands suck harder than a cheap fat whore!


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LMAO http://www.vhforums.com/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gif
I would never know about a fat cheap whore SD , never had one http://www.vhforums.com/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gif . Fat girls SUCK http://www.vhforums.com/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gifhttp://www.vhforums.com/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gif

Ed if you ever heard a Extreme album you wouldn't say they suck! Buy Extreme II Pornagraphitti and listen to it. I'm sure you would change your mind.

As for Spanish, VH isn't even his favorite band! All he talks about is Iron Maiden. A band I don't like, but I don't post they suck on every thread he has on them, like he does with bands he doesn't like. Look at his favorite albums of the 90's.
He has NO Van Halen or David Lee Roth albums.
Some fan.




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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by YankeeRose:

As for Spanish, VH isn't even his favorite band! All he talks about is Iron Maiden. A band I don't like, but I don't post they suck on every thread he has on them, like he does with bands he doesn't like. Look at his favorite albums of the 90's.
He has NO Van Halen or David Lee Roth albums.
Some fan.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You're wrong. Let me clarify some things.

As a matter of fact, I own every Van Halen record up to and including 5150, plus Best of VOL1. And I also own EVERY David Lee Roth solo record, including the Best Of.

I also own every Metallica record up to and including Load. The reason I constantly trash Metallica is because as an old-school fan I felt betrayed (rightly so) and for all the things that Lars said about metal & old school fans since 1996... not even counting the Napster case. And I thrash Extreme because in 1992 I remember being CONSTANTLY annoyed with their cheese ballads on the school radio in my teenage years.

But you're right that I did not mention any Van Halen or David Lee Roth record on my 10 favorite records from the 90's. DLR Band and ALAE came close to making it, but they didn't, simply because the other 10 I mentioned were far better records. And if you look again, I think I did not even mention an Iron Maiden record on that list. Yes I'm an Iron Maiden fan but I'm honest enough to admit that most of the stuff they did in the 90's was crap. I did mention Bruce Dickinson solo records however. I named mostly stuff from emerging underground metal bands... bands that weren't big in the 80's basically. I have over 230 CDs, that makes for a whole lot of choice.

I'm on this forum because I'm first and foremost a CLASSIC Van Halen fan. I wouldn't even be here if there would have been no possibility of DLR returning. I'm no fan of Van Halen if DLR doesn't sing.


Is that clearer? Thanks for reading all this anyway.


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[This message has been edited by Spanish Doctor (edited September 23, 2000 at 05:38 AM).]

I like both bands, I listen to Extreme a little more though. Best way for me to describe it...

Live - Metallica shits all over Extreme
Albums - Both bands have great albums
Guitars - I think Nuno's better than Kirk & James
Bass - I think Pat's better than Jason
Drums - Lar$ I guess is better than Paul & Mike. I don't think Paul or Mike give half a shit about Napster though http://www.vhforums.com/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gif
Vocals - Gary has a killer vocal range, with Halen & Extreme IMO. I think James is a far better frontman though. Gary's stage antics are fucking goofy sometimes.

Cool topic! http://www.vhforums.com/vhlforum/smilies/smile.gif

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Yankee Rose , where did I say Extreme sucks ???
I said I never like them , I DID NOT SAY THEY SUCK http://www.vhforums.com/vhlforum/smilies/mad.gif READ MAN !!

[This message has been edited by Ed6150 (edited September 23, 2000 at 01:12 PM).]

In my BEST Anne Murray voice :

"There will be peace in the valley, for meeeee, someday..." http://www.vhforums.com/vhlforum/smilies/wink.gif

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Anne Murray??

Fuck that, Elvis sang that one much better...


Now as for Metallica vs Extreme.... gotta go with Metallica. So Nuno's a great musician? Maybe so, but Extreme loses major points on originality. VH meets Queen.

I've always preferred the true originals in music. Beatles, Stones, Who, Zeppelin, Van HALEN, Sex Pistols, U2, Metallica.....

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I don't think you could possibly compare extreme to Metallica. Gary is a much better vocalist than James, If you don't believe me compare, "More Than Words" to "Nothing Else Matters". I'm not going to say that makes Extreme the better band, extreme never achieved the level of fame Metallica recieved during early 90's and they we're even bigger in the 80's with cult based fans.

If there is any way you can translate masturbation on the guitar... Kirk Hammett did!

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FORD,
I've got no problem with you liking Metallica more than Extreme, but at what point did you ever listen to Extreme? You've made it very clear in the past that you'd never even listened to an Extreme album, just the two "ballads". Neither of these songs sounds much like Queen or Van Halen.

If you don't like the band that's okay, but at least give an honest review based on your feelings and not what some other people have written about the band.

EXTREME=Overated Band , I mean what have they done thats so great anyways http://www.vhforums.com/vhlforum/smilies/rolleyes.gif
I am accused of saying they suck so I might as well say THEY SUCK http://www.vhforums.com/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gif

VH RULES!!!!
So does U2 and IRON MAIDEN

Hey!! We got another highly intelligent review by Ed6150! Alright man, way to go! Let me get this straight...&lt;ahem&gt; THEY SUCK!

Wow, I guess I shouldn't be a fan of a great band since some fat guy who's never heard them doesn't like their music.

Musician-wise: no comparisons, please!
Last Extreme lineup is way better than every Metallica lineup, you all know it. And Mike Mangini outperforms Lars Ullrich before starting to play, c'mon!
Metallica did some great piece of work: Master of Puppets and Ride the Lightning were two excellent records, where they displayed some "new" metal stuff, something different from the epic or neoclassical or speed thing. In that way they created their own sound, which took a commercial direction with the Black album, where everyone got to know them thanks to a normal song with a catchy riff (Enter Sandman) and two ballads (The Unforgiven and Nothing Else Matters).
So far, they produced two hard rock meets cliche metal records, Load and Reload, very different from their standard metal, and musician-wise they lowered their standards: no difficult parts to play, boring vocals, Lars'double drumming gone nowhere. And while their live performances were great, now they're ok. Still a lot of attitude on stage, but their difficult parts are now simple parts (read: Lars can't play anymore what he used to).
I agree with Spanish Doctor saying Iron Maiden were more important to the metal scene; they set a standard for epics, instrumental things and musician-wise that bands like Metallica will never meet; their sound is still great, and they sound better than ever with their new record; live they kick ass, and I'm not a great fan of theirs. But I recognize their importance. In addition, they never sold-out...
Extreme: their huge hits were good, Hole Hearted, More than Words (a ballad, but it seems to be more and more criticized than Nothing Else Matters, even though the vocal harmonies are unequaled...), Rest in Peace, Get the Funk Out... We're talkin'bout funky meets metal, as FORD says Queen meets VH (that's always been Gary's dream), but Nuno abilities in the songwriting field and arrangements were great. Unfortunately, my fav Extreme record is Waiting for the Punchline, and they disbanded after that due to the end of the rock era and to fucking Ray Danniels. I repeat, I'm not an Extreme fan (actually I hated them back when I was younger, because all my friends listened to was Red Hot Chili Peppers, Extreme, and that funky meets metal music), but listening to them 10 years later doesn't give me chills but makes me realize how good musicians they were (Nuno, Mangini), and how bad Cherone took VH's place... http://www.vhforums.com/vhlforum/smilies/wink.gif

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Ok CrashnJump , I am a fat guy huh ? Well I deleted my other post here because I am going to take the high road and not even respond to your lame POST but tell ya what . I am 6ft2 and weigh 215 , had to get all personal didn't ya http://www.vhforums.com/vhlforum/smilies/rolleyes.gif I would rather look like I do than some skinny weasel prancing around on stage .

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FORD:
Anne Murray??

Fuck that, Elvis sang that one much better...
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Yeah, but if I mentioned Elvis, it might have lent legitimacy to my joke.

I can't have *that.* http://www.vhforums.com/vhlforum/smilies/wink.gif

Anne Murray is ludicrously cheesy. If she and Coverdale were to ever do a duet, fucking cheese wizz would spew from their mouths like Linda Blair from the Exorcist. http://www.vhforums.com/vhlforum/smilies/cry.gif

Not that I'd ever want to unleash that unholy shit upon the ears of the world. http://www.vhforums.com/vhlforum/smilies/redface.gif

I just wanted to point it out... http://www.vhforums.com/vhlforum/smilies/cool.gif

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ed6150:
I would rather look like I do than some skinny weasel <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Careful Ed6150, you'll offend the rest of us skinny weasels.http://www.vhforums.com/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gif

Great post ddregs!
I've been listening to III Sides all day. I love that album! I also think that people are wrong when they say that Extreme isn't a original band, because I have never heard any album that is as unique as Extreme III.http://www.vhforums.com/vhlforum/smilies/smile.gif


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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Glenn:
Originally posted by Ed6150:
I would rather look like I do than some skinny weasel <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Careful Ed6150, you'll offend the rest of us skinny weasels.http://www.vhforums.com/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gif

The guy called me fat http://www.vhforums.com/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gif Uh , I am a big guy but not fat

Well, this thread was fun while it lasted. (Not really. http://www.vhforums.com/vhlforum/smilies/smile.gif ) Not surprised that it turned ugly, though.

So, consider this mofo' closed. http://www.vhforums.com/vhlforum/smilies/wink.gif

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