O.K. , being from Columbus , I've had this dude in my face for 4 years now . He has helped to knock my beloved Buckeyes down a few pegs , turned his back on his teamates , and generally gave the finger to one of the most storied programs in NCAA football history ! It goes without saying , that he is an immense talent , but he's also quite the headcase .

So if you were an NFL GM , and your job depended on you making good personnel decisions , do you draft Maurice Clarett ? If so .....what round ?


Personally , I'd take a chance on the guy in one of the late rounds and hope that he matures into the player I think he can be . Honestly though , once he gets that signing bonus , he might pull a Ricky Williams !

Well I'm a Buckeyes fan as well, and I was actually just talkin to a friend of mine about this topic earlier today.

I personally think he'll be a late 2nd or 3rd pick, and yes I would take a chance on him. He's a big guy that runs with authority. His style sort of reminds me of O.J. a bit, with that stand up style of running. I'd take a chance on the kid, and I heard that the Eagles are considering it.

And I'll guarantee you that he will not get a signing bonus. He's going to have to earn that down the road.

• 25FEB05 Houston Chronicle on Maurice Clarett:

Former Ohio State RB Clarett has undergone a stunning transformation. When Clarett showed up at the NFL scouting combine a year ago, he was overweight and out of shape and in desperate need of an attitude adjustment. On Thursday, Clarett surprised about 200 members of the media by reporting in excellent shape, admitting his mistakes and vowing to turn around a promising but controversial career that had careened out of control. "This day has been on my calendar for a long time," Clarett said. "I wanted to come here and interview with everybody and (get rid) of the knocks everybody had on me."

• 25FEB05 Houston Chronicle on Maurice Clarett:

Former Ohio State RB Clarett has undergone a stunning transformation. When Clarett showed up at the NFL scouting combine a year ago, he was overweight and out of shape and in desperate need of an attitude adjustment. On Thursday, Clarett surprised about 200 members of the media by reporting in excellent shape, admitting his mistakes and vowing to turn around a promising but controversial career that had careened out of control. "This day has been on my calendar for a long time," Clarett said. "I wanted to come here and interview with everybody and (get rid) of the knocks everybody had on me."


That's great that the kid has had some serious coaching on what to do and say , but a leopard can't change it's spots ! I like Maurice and hope he does well in the NFL , but it's buyer beware with this cat !

I would draft him by round 5, no signing bonus, and if he pulls a Ricky Williams, his ball-sack will be no more. :scared:

Most folks are saying round 4, which sounds about right to me. Signing bonus? If he gets one at all, it's with a Ricky clause. :)

I wouldn't draft Clarett. Too much of a nut job.

I wouldn't draft Clarett. Too much of a nut job.

Two words...Lawrence Phillips...

Let Clarett implode on someone else's dime...

Lawrence Phillips is a bit harsh. I don't really recall Maurice throwing his girlfriend down a flight of stairs.

It's pretty clear that the guy is no saint, but he's no criminal IMO. If the Eagles take him I think it'll be good for him. It's guys like that that need to be put in a good situation with good coaches. Had Moss been drafted by a team that didn't cater to him, he wouldn't be in Oakland right now. It's all about good coaching I think, and if Maurice lands in a good orginization, I believe he'll take the ball and run with it. Pardon the pun. :)

...or Oakland could just draft him now and save everyone else from dealing with the hassles until he's inevitably traded there anyway!

He ran a high 4.8-4.9 40-yarder at the combine, and didn't participate in drills. Late-rounder at best, from what the talking heads are saying.

He ran a 4.72 and 4.82, I believe.

He ran a 4.72 and 4.82, I believe.


True enough, Pasquerelli gave those as unofficial times. Something about if you're not top 5, the times get thrown out? :confused:

NFL Network mentioned some had him at 4.9.....

At any rate, he'll go somewhere, at least for camp.

I heard 4.9 myself. That's just not getting it done, and apparently he just stopped in the middle of the workout. You just can't have that crap. I don't want a guy that's gonna quit on the team in the middle of the game. His stock has dropped tremendously, and I hope my Birds stay away from this guy.

[QUOTE=SuckaInA3Piece]Lawrence Phillips is a bit harsh. I don't really recall Maurice throwing his girlfriend down a flight of stairs.

It's pretty clear that the guy is no saint, but he's no criminal IMO. QUOTE]



You're forgetting about falsifying a police report , and insurance fraud . Which are criminal . He got off light , because of who he was ! There's things we know about here in Columbus that never made national news . The guy was big trouble from game 3 of his freshman year on !

Yea I remember that, and they are indeed criminal. It's pretty light in comparison to the shit Lawrence was doing.

I thought Maurice was a very productive player at OSU, but when he pulled that stunt with the shoulder stinger and sat for 3-4 games, I really lost alot of respect for him. It's going to be tough for him to proove to NFL scouts that he's got what it takes to be an NFL player.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft05/columns/story?id=2001738

That's complete bullshit ! Tom Friend , who by the way , wrote alot of articles for ESPN Magazine blatantly slanted in Maurices view of things , is obviously still blowing Clarett's little weiner ! This guy is the biggest Maurice appologist out there !

Bottom line ........Maurice is a gifted athlete with dillusions of grandeur ! He could have done what was right , kept his mouth shut , won a heisman trophy , and been a first round pick , regardless of a poor 40 time ! But he instead is immature , with no patience , a problem with athority , and a poor work ethic ! Not to mention no , and I mean NO loyalty !

That's complete bullshit ! Tom Friend , who by the way , wrote alot of articles for ESPN Magazine blatantly slanted in Maurices view of things , is obviously still blowing Clarett's little weiner ! This guy is the biggest Maurice appologist out there !

Bottom line ........Maurice is a gifted athlete with dillusions of grandeur ! He could have done what was right , kept his mouth shut , won a heisman trophy , and been a first round pick , regardless of a poor 40 time ! But he instead is immature , with no patience , a problem with athority , and a poor work ethic ! Not to mention no , and I mean NO loyalty !

I share that opinion. I saw the clips of "Slow Mo" running the 40, and he was very slow. I don't know if it has anything to do with the weight thing, but it wasn't good. Fuckin Bettis is a huge man, and I'm pretty sure he runs faster then this kid.

Ohio State announced today that Maurice Clarett will NOT be involved with the university's scheduled private workout on March 9 , regardless of what he thinks ! I think the kid was putting the cart before the horse................AGAIN !
Sounds kinda harsh , not to let him workout for the scouts , but he has burned so many bridges in this city it doesn't surprise me ! I think he still has a pending lawsuit against OSU ! What does he expect ?

Maurice Clarett, who was hoping to be a Buckeye-for-a-day next week, has been barred from Ohio State's "Pro Day" workouts on March 9.

Clarett ran two inferior 40-yard dashes at the NFL combine and preferred to run again for pro scouts next week in Columbus, alongside several of his former college teammates. But, according to one of Clarett's agents, Josh Luchs, Ohio State nixed it because Clarett is no longer enrolled at the school and hasn't played for the Buckeyes within the last year.

"I spoke with Steve Snapp," Luchs said, referring to the Ohio State sports information director, "and he said they would not allow Maurice to participate, because, first and foremost, he does not meet their criteria. And then he said, 'Look, we wish him well, but we also feel it would be a distraction for the other players who are trying to showcase their talents for NFL teams.' Well, the last thing Maurice wants to do is be a detriment to the other players. Out of respect to them, we accept and understand their position, and are going to do it elsewhere."

Snapp had not returned telephone messages as of Thursday afternoon.

Under the NFL's guidelines, players can either work out for pro scouts at their college or in their hometown. As a result of the Ohio State decision, Clarett likely will work out in the greater Youngstown area, where he grew up, possibly on April 1. That day, quarterback Charlie Frye is scheduled to work out for NFL personnel at the University of Akron, and, after that workout, Clarett's agents, Steve Feldman and Luchs, intend to bus the pro scouts 50 miles to Clarett's session in Youngstown.

"We understand NFL people have a lot of travel to do, to see these prospects at their private workouts," Luchs said."So we'd like to select April 1 to make it as easy as possible for these NFL teams, many of which will be in Akron."

Clarett made several miscalculations at the recent combine and hopes to rectify those at his private workout. He had originally bulked up to impress the scouts that week, but was too heavy, and, after a crash diet, ran disappointing times of 4.82 and then 4.72. After his poor 40 times, he refused to partake in any more workouts, to the dismay of NFL coaches and general managers. He's projected now as a sixth- or seventh-round pick, if he's drafted at all, and that's why his next workout is of dire importance. He is already back in training, with a speed coach, in Southern California.

Clarett had originally mentioned at the combine that he wanted to run at Ohio State, but it clearly would have turned into a circus. In November, Clarett accused Ohio State of academic and financial improprieties, and it has led to an ongoing NCAA investigation.

But Clarett has said he made those claims to clear his name with NFL executives, that he would have stayed quiet if head coach Jim Tressel and athletic director Andy Geiger had not "bashed" him to the NFL. He has since said he harbors no ill will toward the school and, in a conversation with ESPN The Magazine before the combine, Clarett said he hoped the war of words between him and Ohio State would stop.

"Can we all quit?" he said. "Let's cease. I don't want to be known as a troublemaker anymore. I don't want to be known as an ass. I just want to stop. It hurts so bad. My feelings are being overshadowed by the story. It's to the point I'm not 'me' anymore; I'm a machine. I'm a story. I'm a big ball of controversy. And I want it to quit."

I heard 4.9 myself. That's just not getting it done, and apparently he just stopped in the middle of the workout. You just can't have that crap. I don't want a guy that's gonna quit on the team in the middle of the game. His stock has dropped tremendously, and I hope my Birds stay away from this guy.

Damn, I'm almost 40 and out of shape, but even I might be able to run a 4.9!

Just FYI ,
In a recent radio contest , 200 people turned out to try and run a faster 40 time than Maurice.............8 people did !


Did anyone hear how his second workout went ? I haven't heard a word about it . It was supposed to be March 9 in Youngstown .

Haven't heard jackshit about it, so I'm guessing it wasn't too good. He was never that fast anyways.

News out of Columbus !
Maurice Clarett will work out for pro scouts on March 30 at his old high school in Warren ,Ohio . His agent says he has changed his trainer .

Pro scouts will be the only ones in attendance because the media has been prohibited from attending !

Imagine that !

Updated: March 24, 2005, 2:07 PM ET
Session planned to recover from poor combineAssociated Press


WARREN, Ohio -- Ohio State won't allow Maurice Clarett back to appear before NFL scouts, but his former high school will.

Clarett will work out at Warren G. Harding High School next Thursday, said his agent Steve Feldman.

Feldman knows it will be a critical day for Clarett, who bombed at the NFL combine in late February with times of 4.72 and 4.82 seconds in the 40-yard dash.

"He could have slipped completely out of the draft," Feldman said. "He needs a good workout."

Clarett has changed his trainer and is doing less weightlifting and more cardiovascular work, Feldman said.

Scouts from several teams plan to attend the workout, but Feldman wouldn't say which ones. He also said he wouldn't rule out another workout before the April 23-24 draft.

Ohio State excluded Clarett from participating in "pro day" workouts with his former teammates earlier this month. Clarett alienated himself with allegations that administrators and coaches broke NCAA rules by arranging perks for players.

Harding coach Thom McDaniels however was willing to help his former player.

"With all my heart I hope he has a great day," McDaniels said. "In the absence of two years of college competition, it boils down to what he does next Thursday in terms of what NFL scouts know about him and how they think of him going into the draft."

Clarett set Ohio State freshman rushing and scoring records in 2002, leading the Buckeyes to their first national championship in 34 years. He was suspended before the next season for lying to NCAA and university investigators and never played another college game.

He then sued the NFL for early admission to the league's draft but, after an early victory in federal court, lost on appeal and several subsequent appeals.

draft him? sure, but later than the 1st or early 2nd...anyone from the buckeye state shouldnt be in the top ecehelon..can u say bobby hoying?

draft him? sure, but later than the 1st or early 2nd...anyone from the buckeye state shouldnt be in the top ecehelon..can u say bobby hoying?

Can you also say Orlando Pace , Eddie George , Shawn Springs , Joey Galloway , Mike Vrabel , Terry Glenn , Robert Smith , Chris Speilman , Antoine Winfield , Kory Stringer , Will Smith , Jim Lachey , Keith Byers , Tom Tupa , Kirk Herbstreit , Jack Tatum , Jim Stillwagon , Dan Wilkinson , David Boston , The fricken list goes on and on !

It's seems to me , all the ones that didn't end up in that pit you call Philly , did pretty good ! HHmmmmmmmmm?

By the way , Maurice ran a 4.67 and a 4.68 at his recent workout at 5 lbs. heavier !
Attending the workout , were reps from.....Cleve. ,Cinnci, Pitt , and Balt ......
Looks like the AFC central might be interested !

draft him? sure, but later than the 1st or early 2nd...anyone from the buckeye state shouldnt be in the top ecehelon..can u say bobby hoying?


Chew on this awhile !


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Tim Anderson Defensive Tackle Buffalo Bills
Rodney Bailey Defensive End New England Patriots
LeCharles Bentley Offensive Guard New Orleans Saints
Drew Carter Wide Receiver Carolina Panthers
Adrien Clarke Offensive Guard Philadelphia Eagles
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Na'il Diggs Linebacker Green Bay Packers
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Chris Gamble Cornerback Carolina Panthers
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Cie Grant Linebacker New Orleans Saints
Ben Hartsock Tight End Indianapolis Colts
Kevin Houser Center New Orleans Saints
Michael Jenkins Wide Receiver Atlanta Falcons
Craig Krenzel Quarterback Chicago Bears
Jamar Martin Running Back Miami Dolphins
Rob Murphy Center San Francisco 49ers
Donnie Nickey Safety Tennessee Titans
Shane Olivea Offensive Guard San Diego Chargers
Orlando Pace Offensive Tackle St. Louis Rams
Kenny Peterson Defensive End Green Bay Packers
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Ahmed Plummer Cornerback San Francisco 49ers
Robert Reynolds Linebacker Tennessee Titans
B.J. Sander Punter Green Bay Packers
Darnell Sanders Tight End Chicago Bears
Darrion Scott Defensive End Minnesota Vikings
Will Smith Defensive End New Orleans Saints
Shawn Springs Cornerback Washington Redskins
Alex Stepanovich Center Arizona Cardinals
Tom Tupa Punter Washington Redskins
Mike Vrabel Linebacker New England Patriots
Tyson Walter Offensive Guard Dallas Cowboys
Jonathan Wells Running Back Houston Texans
Matt Wilhelm Linebacker San Diego Chargers
Dan Wilkinson Defensive Tackle Detroit Lions
Antoine Winfield Cornerback Minnesota Vikings

And that's just current players !

Well it's been a long strange trip ! And it comes down to day 2 for maurice . It just kills me thinking what might have been , had he had his head on straight ! The kid has a ton of talent , and I really wish him well . I hope he becomes a steal for some team and becomes a pro-bowler !

Good luck , Mo !

O.K. , being from Columbus , I've had this dude in my face for 4 years now . He has helped to knock my beloved Buckeyes down a few pegs , turned his back on his teamates , and generally gave the finger to one of the most storied programs in NCAA football history ! It goes without saying , that he is an immense talent , but he's also quite the headcase .

So if you were an NFL GM , and your job depended on you making good personnel decisions , do you draft Maurice Clarett ? If so .....what round ?


Personally , I'd take a chance on the guy in one of the late rounds and hope that he matures into the player I think he can be . Honestly though , once he gets that signing bonus , he might pull a Ricky Williams !

I think I'd leave this guy alone. More trouble than he's worth.

News out of Columbus !
Maurice Clarett will work out for pro scouts on March 30 at his old high school in Warren ,Ohio . His agent says he has changed his trainer .

Pro scouts will be the only ones in attendance because the media has been prohibited from attending !

Imagine that !

It's kind of funny that we look at a 4.7 for a RB and think it's slow, but most people would probably be hard pressed to run it in less than 5.5 to 6 seconds.

Just FYI ,
In a recent radio contest , 200 people turned out to try and run a faster 40 time than Maurice.............8 people did !
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Sorry for quoting myself , Viking , but this kind of proves your point ! :thumb:

Sorry for quoting myself , Viking , but this kind of proves your point ! :thumb:

Ha! No problem there, I've done it myself. I just don't think most people understand how fast even a 4.7 40 is.

I CAN"T FUCKING BELIEVE THIS ! First he screws up my beloved Buckeyes and now he ends up on my favorite PRO team ! I'll never get away from this kid !!!! UUUUGGGGGGGHHHHHHH !!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :brickwall :brickwall

I CAN"T FUCKING BELIEVE THIS ! First he screws up my beloved Buckeyes and now he ends up on my favorite PRO team ! I'll never get away from this kid !!!! UUUUGGGGGGGHHHHHHH !!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :brickwall :brickwall

Think he'll beat out Ron Dayne? LMAO!! jk.

My Raiders were doing good until they picked up a QB in the 3rd. We do need just a little more on D still, guys!

Kinda suprised he went so high.

We'll see if Shanahan really is a genius with RB's. If these two pan out after their less-than-stellar histories, then I'll be convinced that he probably is. Especially if Droughns tanks in Cleveland.

Kinda suprised he went so high.


How bout' REAL suprised ! What the hell is Shanahan thinking ? :rolleyes: :wtf:

How bout' REAL suprised ! What the hell is Shanahan thinking ? :rolleyes: :wtf:

Well if there's anybody that can coach a RB it's him, so maybe he knows something we don't.

Well if there's anybody that can coach a RB it's him, so maybe he knows something we don't.


He can't possibly know more than you Sucka ! :p

Well NOBODY knows more than me! LOL

ESPN is reporting that Bill Parcells had told Maurice that the Cowboys were prepared to take him in the forth round ! So if not picked by Denver , he would not have sat there much longer . :wtf: