FreeFM crumbling...

"As of February 27, 2006 the David Lee Roth Show was put into hiatus in all of its markets. According to published reports in the New York Daily News (See Here) reportedly Roth was complaining to WFNY-FM General Manager Tom Chiusano that that the studio he uses which was renovated following the departure of Howard Stern was infested with asbestos, dust and dust mites but unidentified sources within WFNY claim that Roth is nothing more then a radio diva and he and his manager Matt Sencio are "Out of Control and that Roth is trying to get fired by CBS Radio with full pay". Local DJs in each market will temporarily replace Roth until all of the issues between him and CBS Radio can be resolved."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_David_Lee_Roth_Show

Wow...

Big surprise... :rolleyes:

Sounds like the beginning of the end of DLR's radio gig and the beginning of the DLR is back in VH rumors ;).

wikipedia is a poor source for news.... Anyone can post shit on there...
The New York News article is old (http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/385325p-326862c.html), Originally published on January 24, 2006


FreeFM crumbling...

"As of February 27, 2006 the David Lee Roth Show was put into hiatus in all of its markets. According to published reports in the New York Daily News (See Here) reportedly Roth was complaining to WFNY-FM General Manager Tom Chiusano that that the studio he uses which was renovated following the departure of Howard Stern was infested with asbestos, dust and dust mites but unidentified sources within WFNY claim that Roth is nothing more then a radio diva and he and his manager Matt Sencio are "Out of Control and that Roth is trying to get fired by CBS Radio with full pay". Local DJs in each market will temporarily replace Roth until all of the issues between him and CBS Radio can be resolved."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_David_Lee_Roth_Show

dave goes on vacation next week,..the afternoon guys..barsky..are filling in.
Let the dlr + VH rumors begin!

....the world is crumblin' down around us.

....the world is crumblin' down around us.

It said so on Wikipedia !

The David Lee Roth Show is a talk show on Free FM radio. He is on in New York, Philadelphia, Dallas Boston, Cleveland, Pittsburgh and West Palm Beach. The David Lee Roth Show airs from 6am-10am, Monday through Friday.

As of February 27, 2006 David Lee Roth is taking a well needed vacation. Local DJs in each market will temporarily replace Roth while he is recording with Van Halen at 5150. He will return from 5150 studio on March 26th, 2006 once recording of his vocals are complete for the new Van Halen album.

dave goes on vacation next week,..the afternoon guys..barsky..are filling in.
Let the dlr + VH rumors begin!


True, he could get the vocals recorded in a week, but it'll take another four months of studio trickery to get them to sound good... :sssh:

The David Lee Roth Show is a talk show on Free FM radio. He is on in New York, Philadelphia, Dallas Boston, Cleveland, Pittsburgh and West Palm Beach. The David Lee Roth Show airs from 6am-10am, Monday through Friday.

As of February 27, 2006 David Lee Roth is taking a well needed vacation. Local DJs in each market will temporarily replace Roth while he is recording with Van Halen at 5150. He will return from 5150 studio on March 26th, 2006 once recording of his vocals are complete for the new Van Halen album.
Geez! I wish I could work a couple of months and get a nice vacation!

I said six months.I was off by three. Looks like Davey boy just aint cut out for the working life.

I said six months.I was off by three. Looks like Davey boy just aint cut out for the working life.

He didn't even make it two full months...you were off by 4.

on the air barely 2 months ands its vacation time??????? either some body is stressed out or they wore out their welcome............. : :wtf:

6 weeks of work, one week of vacation.

I want that gig!

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/385325p-326862c.html



Looks like rock-star-turned-shock-jock David Lee Roth is having an ugly launch as Howard Stern's successor, with radio station staffers grumbling about Roth's allegedly bad behavior.

My sources at 92.3 Free FM - formerly K-Rock - tell me that the former Van Halen front man and his manager, Matt Sencio, "are totally out of control and out of their league when it comes to producing a radio show," as one disgruntled employee put it.

"This guy [Roth] is impossible to work with. A real arrogant, self-righteous a-," says a Lowdown spy. "All the execs know they made the two biggest errors in radio history - letting Stern go to Sirius and hiring this moron Roth. He never preps for a show. He is out the door five minutes after the show, unless he is 'forced' to record a commercial or re-record ones he made errors on."

According to the anti-Roth faction, he demanded that general manager Tom Chiusano do expensive renovations on Stern's old studio, then refused to use it, claiming asbestos infestation. He ripped down the walls of a temporary studio because of suspected dust behind the walls.

"He swears he is allergic to dust and smoke, but smells like an ashtray," says the spy.

The source also says Roth's manager got into a shouting match with program director Mark Chernoff on one of the first few days of the show. Then, the spy says, "Roth insisted on decorating the halls and studios, and then he had a moving company come in and remove dozens of pictures and his fake palm trees while he mumbled about Tom and the bastards at Infinity," he said.

In addition, said the source, Roth "hates Tom and is vocal about that to almost everyone he talks at. It's almost like he wants to get fired, and take the money and run."

My detailed messages to various and sundry went unreturned yesterday, and a station spokeswoman declined to comment.


Article Number 2:


WNCX plugs in local show for vacationing David Lee Roth
Saturday, February 25, 2006
Julie E. Washington
Plain Dealer Reporter

David Lee Roth is taking a one-week hiatus from his critically drubbed morning show starting Monday, but his bosses insist he'll be back.

Roth's vacation has been planned for weeks, said Tom Herschel, vice president and general manager of WNCX FM/98.5.

Roth has had the job for less than two months. What kind of job grants vacation time that soon?
"He's exhausted. He's a superstar," Herschel said. "I don't know why he's taking a vacation."

Classic-rock station WNCX will replace Roth with a program called "Five Cleveland Mornings." Bill Louis, WNCX midday host and program director, and musician Alex Bevan will co-host the show highlighting Cleveland's radio and rock history.

Starting Monday, "Five Cleveland Mornings" will be heard 6 to 10 a.m. Monday's guests include Artful Dodger front man Billy Paliselli, radio veteran Ruby Cheeks and Cleveland Agora owner Hank LoConti Sr. Other guests throughout the week include concert promoter Jules Belkin and radio veterans Ed "Flash" Ferenc and Len "Boom Boom" Goldberg.

Roth, 51, started his show on some of Howard Stern's former stations Jan. 3. The former Van Halen frontman is heard in Cleveland, New York, Boston, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Dallas and West Palm Beach, Fla.

Rover, morning DJ on Cleveland's WXTM FM/92.3, is on mostly in Midwestern cities.

Hahaha I knew he wasn't going to last... What has it been 2 months, and he is already done? Maybe infinity should have left KROCK as a rock station and not changed formats, let alone let Dave be the morning drive person.

6 weeks of work, one week of vacation.

I want that gig!

If you can't get the DJ gig, you could always run for President. :)

In all your happiness to see Roth fail you are all putting the cart before the horse. The guy's going on vacation for a week. Geez.

I've throughly enjoyed Roth's show the last two months. It's been a swell ride. If it's over fine.

Bostonian the first article you posted is a month old dude.

Fuck I need a job like that...work less than 2 months, get a week off.

Fuck I need a job like that...work less than 2 months, get a week off.

My ex girlfriend had like 7 weeks vacation at her last job, it seamed like she was always on vacation.

Wow.....more spin than the laundry machine across the courtyard here in the complex.

Anyway ya cut it, slice it, dice it......being sent on vacation so soon into the gig isn't a good thing. EVH Fan, It's not about wanting him to fail....it's about facing reality. DLR just isn't a radio guy. He needs to be making balls to the wall rock, fer shit's sake. The fucker's a legend, and doing friggin radio is just plain beneath him.

Hey.....wait a minute.....

...being sent on vacation so soon into the gig isn't a good thing. .


Unless, of course, Dave and VH appear on Leno Tuesday night and shock the world into submission. In which case, it'll be a good thing. If it lasts. I naturally am holding my breath as I do with all Roth reunion rumors. :D

Again, I say to you Van Halen band members who are reading this, don't sweat the tour. Just put out the frickin' album. Worry about separate buses and jets later.

Put. Out. The. Album. http://usera.imagecave.com/Bard/jumping-smiley-016.gif

Unless, of course, Dave and VH appear on Leno Tuesday night and shock the world into submission. In which case, it'll be a good thing. If it lasts. I naturally am holding my breath as I do with all Roth reunion rumors. :D


If you listen carefully, you can hear me not holding my breath. :rolleyes:

Jeez what happened here??

If you listen carefully, you can hear me not holding my breath. :rolleyes:


:sssh: Why, yes, that definitely is Scum not turning blue. :p

Wow.....more spin than the laundry machine across the courtyard here in the complex.

Anyway ya cut it, slice it, dice it......being sent on vacation so soon into the gig isn't a good thing. EVH Fan, It's not about wanting him to fail....it's about facing reality. DLR just isn't a radio guy. He needs to be making balls to the wall rock, fer shit's sake. The fucker's a legend, and doing friggin radio is just plain beneath him.

Hey.....wait a minute.....
Dave WAS a legend. Its over. DLR is not only not a radio guy, it would seem hes barely functioning as a creative human being. Hes burned that candle at both ends for many years, and the shit wont light anymore. Hes got maybe ten years left to flail away, then its the looney bin or retirement home.Hes not really 53 , hes actually like 73, when you factor in the "mileage" upstairs.

Put. Out. The. Album. http://usera.imagecave.com/Bard/jumping-smiley-016.gif
Brilliant, IMO.

That's what they should call it. P.O.T.A.

Unless, of course, Dave and VH appear on Leno Tuesday night and shock the world into submission. In which case, it'll be a good thing. If it lasts. I naturally am holding my breath as I do with all Roth reunion rumors. :D

Again, I say to you Van Halen band members who are reading this, don't sweat the tour. Just put out the frickin' album. Worry about separate buses and jets later.

Put. Out. The. Album. http://usera.imagecave.com/Bard/jumping-smiley-016.gif


I hate to be the pin popping the balloon, but why would they do this with Leno instead of Letterman? Dave has always supported the group and it's clear he's a fan, I can't say the same about Jay. Considering the not so friendly rivalry between Dave and Jay, it would seem a pretty big slap in the face to David Letterman to break the news on Leno.

If the story had said a mystery band would appear on Letterman......that I'd have my fingers crossed for.

Dave WAS a legend. Its over. DLR is not only not a radio guy, it would seem hes barely functioning as a creative human being. Hes burned that candle at both ends for many years, and the shit wont light anymore. Hes got maybe ten years left to flail away, then its the looney bin or retirement home.Hes not really 53 , hes actually like 73, when you factor in the "mileage" upstairs.

Okay....to-MAY-to, to-MAH-to.....whateva.

I hate to be the pin popping the balloon, but why would they do this with Leno instead of Letterman? Dave has always supported the group and it's clear he's a fan, I can't say the same about Jay. Considering the not so friendly rivalry between Dave and Jay, it would seem a pretty big slap in the face to David Letterman to break the news on Leno.

If the story had said a mystery band would appear on Letterman......that I'd have my fingers crossed for.


Agreed. I too thought Letterman would be the natural choice for a 'coming outta the closet' so to speak.

Perhaps the marketing department knows that Leno still draws the bigger share of late night audience.

Moot point...think there's a greater chance of The Police reuniting and Kansan tsunamis than a classic Van Halen reunion via Johnny Carson's ill-selected successor.

Yeah, I still think it's lame NBC didn't go with Carson's recommendation and have Letterman take over. Leno's about as funny as a busted up Harley. Hey, more i-runny. :)

Leno blows.Its always been beyond me how that chump got the Tonight Show over Dave.Even Carson was pulling for Dave.The guy is not funny, ugly, and inane.Dave is just ugly. My theory is Dave offended the top brass at the wrong time.I gotta ask, what is "I runny"?.That seems to be a propriatory phrase.

I gotta ask, what is "I runny"?.That seems to be a propriatory phrase.

:funny: LOFL!

Does anybody else find this I-runnic? :)

Leno blows.Its always been beyond me how that chump got the Tonight Show over Dave.Even Carson was pulling for Dave.The guy is not funny, ugly, and inane.Dave is just ugly. My theory is Dave offended the top brass at the wrong time.I gotta ask, what is "I runny"?.That seems to be a propriatory phrase.


Well, popular belief is that Helen Kushnick (Leno's Manager) strongarmed her way into getting Leno the tonight show. Carson, while favoring Letterman, was just plain done with TV and didn't give much of a shit about anything anymore. He'd done his time....he was retiring, and that was the end of it.

Leno became more powerful while Kushnick slowly burned bridges and was at long last fired.

Ya know, there was a time when Leno was funny as shit before the network pussified him. Saw him live back in the 80's once. Funny friggin show. Such a shame.

:funny: LOFL!

Does anybody else find this I-runnic? :)


I do and so does Coverdale. :D

I do and so does Coverdale. :D


:sssh: :thumb:

But surely Cobain finds it the most irrunic of all. http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/musik/music-smiley-006.gif

here's what i see happening...

after dave gets the boot from the show, you ain't gonna hear from him for a long time

here's what i see happening...

after dave gets the boot from the show, you ain't gonna hear from him for a long time

I agree...Dave is gonna be tied up in court for a long time..

Gee, I'm surprised Eddie is not being blamed for any of this. ;)

I wonder what stories Dave will have for "What I did on my 1 week vacation?".

Gee, I'm surprised Eddie is not being blamed for any of this. ;)

I wonder what stories Dave will have for "What I did on my 1 week vacation?".

Monday...Called 5150 looking to get back into VH.
Tuesday...Called 5150 looking to get back into VH.
Wednesday...Called 5150 looking to get back into VH.
Thursday...Callled 5150 looking to get back into VH.
Friday...Called 5150 looking to get back into VH. ;)

Can I say Uncle now ? All this stuff wears me out to honest w/ you all.
Dave, Ed , Al , Sam whatever to all of it. This a bleeping soap opera.
Top 10 VH Get Well List

10) Ed needs to get clean / healthy or whatever the real problem is
9) Dave needs to be smart and let the music do the talking!! those first 6 albums have secured your spot in RnR. Stop bagging on the rest of the band. It dimishes you as a person ... for the love of god, just stop it!!
8) Get a top flight manager
7) Get a top flight producer
6) Get a top flight shrink (note) call Aerosmith (it worked for them)
5) did I mention a shrink ?
4) Get 4 members in a room and clear the air like real men. No more catcalling in the press... Again, it diminishes all of you.
3) Ask yourselves, Do I love these guys? Do I respect them? Can I work w/ them. If you answer no to any question, Go ON W/ YOUR LIFE ASAP.
2) Release Oakland 1981 on DVD ( personal request :)
1) Go back to 9 and 10. Thanks - CV

Is the only current "fact" Dave's vacation? Where did this Leno shit start? Just in this thread, or was there other mention???

Not holding my breath, either.

Shari

EDIT: OK, nevermind. I found it.

Maybe radio DOES require some heavy lifting?

DAVID LEE ROTH 1.7 SHARE MONTH OF JANUARY FROM 7.9 HOWARD STERN DECEMBER ON WXRK NYC...

Monday...Called 5150 looking to get back into VH.
Tuesday...Called 5150 looking to get back into VH.
Wednesday...Called 5150 looking to get back into VH.
Thursday...Callled 5150 looking to get back into VH.
Friday...Called 5150 looking to get back into VH. ;)

you forgot that Dave will claim to have talked "to the drummer" from Van Halen and he'll surely state that a reunion is inevitable.

DAVID LEE ROTH 1.7 SHARE MONTH OF JANUARY FROM 7.9 HOWARD STERN DECEMBER ON WXRK NYC...

Not good.

I had a 1.7 share in NYC last month.

I'm sure there's some demographic that he rocked....

I kind of liked what I heard from Dave...but not sure I could take it everyday...obviously, I am like other people.

If we take all the ideas in this thread and pull them together I think Dave is probably taking the week off to audition for Rock Star: Van Halen. :D

DAVID LEE ROTH 1.7 SHARE MONTH OF JANUARY FROM 7.9 HOWARD STERN DECEMBER ON WXRK NYC...

Just curious where are your sources for that? I would like to see what other stations/shows ratings were for the month.

i love dave, but that show is UNLISTENABLE if you're not looking for VH mentions...

these guys JV and elvis filled in this morning and i was driving to work with tears in my eyes from laughing so hard...they were hilarious...

Surely this was the expected outcome for most of us.

Sorry, Dave, but you know what must be done.

If we take all the ideas in this thread and pull them together I think Dave is probably taking the week off to audition for Rock Star: Van Halen. :D

Maybe guest host on American Idol?

David Lee Roth-less
Monday, February 27, 2006

In a recent OMW item, we put our own kibosh on the rumors that CBS Radio might convert Cleveland classic rocker WNCX/98.5 to a "Free FM" talker, primarily based on the weakness of the morning drive show hosted by Howard Stern's replacement, David Lee Roth.

Here we are in late February/early March, just two months after Roth debuted with much fanfare on Stern's former New York City flagship, along with former Stern stations from Boston to Cleveland. And the former Van Halen frontman is apparently wiped out from doing a four hour daily morning radio show, as he's nabbed what could be the earliest vacation in radio history.

This week, according to the Plain Dealer's Julie Washington, WNCX/98.5 is going local to cover DLR's slot...with a show called "Five Cleveland Mornings". WNCX PD Bill Louis joins popular local musician Alex Bevan through Friday, featuring names linked to local music and radio. Among the guests - former WMMS voices Ed "Flash" Ferenc, Ruby Cheeks, and Len "Boom Boom" Goldberg.

You could almost hear the sigh in WNCX VP/GM Tom Herschel's voice, when Washington asked him why DLR rates something you rarely get in radio, a one-week vacation just two months into your new gig: "He's exhausted. He's a superstar...I don't know why he's taking a vacation."

It's the published sigh of a man who had an aging former rock superstar pushed upon him by CBS corporate as Howard Stern's replacement, that's what it is.

WNCX is not the only DLR affiliate "going local" this week. Flagship WFNY/92.3 New York City is airing their local midday team, "Elvis and JV" (formerly known as San Francisco morning team "The Doghouse"). The Philadelphia Inquirer reports that WYSP/94.1 will run afternoon driver Kidd Chris in morning drive this week. Despite a heavy blitz of publicity, DLR seems to mostly be getting attention by occasional shout-outs to his ex-bandmates for a Van Halen reunion...

Warner Music is getting in on the act... (http://www.warnermusic.com.au/newsfeature,conmap,283338)

Sounds like the beginning of the end of DLR's radio gig and the beginning of the DLR is back in VH rumors ;).


Funny... but oh so TRUE. It's called trapped in the 80's. With no way out

Here it is, from: http://www.radioandrecords.com/Newsroom/2006_02_27/rrnews.asp

The first batch of winter 2006 Phase One Arbitrends was released Monday by Arbitron, and, based on the results, CBS Radio's WFNY (92.3 Free FM)/New York and KLSX (97.1 Free FM)/Los Angeles have a difficult challenge ahead in attracting morning drive listeners to slots once dominated by Howard Stern.

For November and December 2005 and January 2006, WFNY earned a 2.7 share 12+ in New York, falling from a 3.2 in the fall 2005 survey. The extrapolated ratings for New York show a significant decline in listening for the station that was WXRK (K-Rock) until the start of this year. According to Cornerstone Research, the station then known as K-Rock earned a 3.2 share in November and a 3.7 in December, Stern's final month in mornings at his former flagship station. In January, WFNY received a 1.2 share 12+.

Meanwhile, former Van Halen frontman David Lee Roth's first month as Stern's successor in New York could portend a very bumpy road ahead. According to the extrapolated results, Roth's program earned a 1.8 share 12+ in January, ranking 18th. That compares to No. 1 showings for Stern's old program in November and December and the No. 3 showing — with a 5.3 share — Stern saw in October.

In the 18-34 demographic, Roth's show attracted a 1.3 share in January, off from double-digit results seen in October, November and December by Stern's show. Among 25-54 listeners, Roth received a 2.4 share. Stern's worst showing since March 2005 was a 7.9 share; his program was ranked No. 1 for every month from March through December.

Across the continent, in Los Angeles, Adam Carolla's show attracted a paltry 0.7 share in January, making KLSX the lowest-rated full-signal commercial FM in the market during morning drive for the month. Stern's lowest monthly finish was in March 2005, when his program attracted a 2.9 share. Among listeners 18-34, Carolla's program debuted with a 1.5 share in January, and the Carolla show earned a 1.2 share in January among listeners 25-54.

CBS Radio executives continue to stress that replacing Stern's monster ratings is a task that could take up to two years, and the company is committed to letting its respective new morning shows — including Rover's Morning Glory, airing in the Midwest — develop and slowly gain listeners.

Rover's first results in Chicago, however, are certainly cause for concern: The morning program received 0.4 rating in January, 12+, while the WCKG morning program attracted just a 0.2 share in the 25-54 demo and a 0.3 share of the 18-34 audience for the month. Meanwhile, Chicago icon Jonathon Brandmeier is No. 5 12+ in January at Emmis' WLUP. Brandmeier's show is No. 1 in the 25-54 demo for the month.

Commenting on WFNY, CBS Radio spokeswoman Karen Mateo said, "We continue to take a long-range view at the station and are not drawing any permanent conclusions based on a preliminary trend. As we've said in the past, with a change such as we made at Free FM, it can take anywhere between 12 to 24 months before the station gains its place in the market." R&R's calls to WFNY PD Mark Chernoff and KLSX VP/GM Bob Moore were not returned by press time.

CBS Radio's New York cluster is also evaluating the latest results from WCBS-FM, the former Oldies station that flipped to Adult Hits as "101.1 Jack FM" in June 2005. The station dipped 1.7-1.6 12+ in the Phase One Arbitrends for winter 2006, and in the station's key 25-54 demo, it trended 2.5-2.1-1.7 from November 2005 through January 2006 in the extrapolated results Cornerstone reviewed.

Elsewhere in New York, WLTW (Lite FM) remains the overall No. 1, while WSKQ (Mega 97.9) remains a strong No. 2 and WHTZ (Z100) inches up to No. 3. WRKS (98.7 Kiss FM) and WWPR (Power 105.1) round out the top five. In Los Angeles, KLVE ties simulcast KIIS & KVVS for the top spot. KSCA (La Nueva 101.9) is again top five, while Spanish Oldies simulcast KRCD & KRCV (Recuerdo) score a 3.6 share and Latin Urban KXOL dips to No. 10 12+. KYSR (Star 98.7) fell 1.8-1.6 for a 24th-place finish.

In Chicago, WGN returns to the top spot as WGCI-FM dips to second place. WLIT rises to No. 3. Also released today: Nassau-Suffolk, Middlesex and Hamptons-Riverhead, NY.

Roth's program earned a 1.8 share 12+ in January, ranking 18th.

and they list 36 stations in the NYC ratings.

Okay, I guess I'm being a bit dense here but in the third paragraph they show Roth with 1.8 share and then in the fourth paragraph they show 1.3 share both referencing January. Which is it or am I just not understanding radio jargon.

Well, on a positive note, he's doing much better than Corolla and management is taking a "Let's wait and see" attitude.

the 1.8 may be overall, and 1.2 the 18-34 demographic.

the 1.8 may be overall, and 1.2 the 18-34 demographic.

Thanks. Read the article too fast.

I don't think anyone can pretend that Roth Radio did not have an atrocious start -- quality-wise. Bringing out Uncle Manny and Dave's sister made college radio look professional.

But, I have thought the show has improved of late. Dave's interview style is improving and he seems to attract some interesting guests -- Henry Rollins was stellar and Olympic snowboarder Shaun White is on the verge of becoming a show regular. Even boxer Mia St. John and Janine Lindenmueller were good interviews. Dave seems to do best with aggressive, type-A personalities, who themselves are bright. Todd McFarlane was an interesting guest.

Dave's show cannot be compared to Howard Stern. Howard had 25 years perfecting his craft. Dave knows that. However, despite ocassionally missing a good game of "Wheel of Sex" or "Lord of the Anal Rings-Toss" I have not felt the need to get Sirius. I hope Infinity is true to its word and gives Dave some more time to develop his show.

I don't think anyone can pretend that Roth Radio did not have an atrocious start -- quality-wise. Bringing out Uncle Manny and Dave's sister made college radio look professional.

But, I have thought the show has improved of late. Dave's interview style is improving and he seems to attract some interesting guests -- Henry Rollins was stellar and Olympic snowboarder Shaun White is on the verge of becoming a show regular. Even boxer Mia St. John and Janine Lindenmueller were good interviews. Dave seems to do best with aggressive, type-A personalities, who themselves are bright. Todd McFarlane was an interesting guest.

Dave's show cannot be compared to Howard Stern. Howard had 25 years perfecting his craft. Dave knows that. However, despite ocassionally missing a good game of "Wheel of Sex" or "Lord of the Anal Rings-Toss" I have not felt the need to get Sirius. I hope Infinity is true to its word and gives Dave some more time to develop his show.

You made a great analysis. I fully agree.

You know what this really reminds me of. Monday Night Football.

Stern was an Icon like Cosell. Since he left MNF, was unable to get a guy who could grab the attention of the national audience. Some people were more than adequete like an Al Michaels or Frank Gifford however some were miserable. Dennis Miller for instance.

Dave will never replace Stern. However is he going to be Al or Dennis?

On the upside Roth is doing way better than the other replacements across the country. I don't listen to every minute, but I also think Dave is geeting better. I think the Monday feature with the relationship columnist from the New York Post is really good. Let me ask this question. If you are a big Dave fan, do you root for him to suceed, or root for failure so he can back to Music.

like i said elsewhere, find me Stern's ratings from his first six months and prove to me they weren't equally as bad.

:funny: LOFL!

Does anybody else find this I-runnic? :)
One person did. Child.

I said six months.I was off by three. Looks like Davey boy just aint cut out for the working life.

Radio is hardly "the working life"

Well, for Davey boy, getting up at 4:30 every day cant be considered recreation.

like i said elsewhere, find me Stern's ratings from his first six months and prove to me they weren't equally as bad.

From when 1985?

Here's the difference though, Stern left Dave a shitload of listeners, I doubt Howard was following an icon with a huge local listening base in 1985 when he came to KROCK. Wasn't he doing afternoons at first for a while too, before he switched to mornings?

no, from DAY ONE, 1970 whatever when Stern started in Hartford.

i think you're right, Stern was afternoons on WNBC since Imus was mornings.

No question he struggled for years. I don't think he really started to make a dent until he went to DC 101 in 1981.

I'm sure his numbers in Hartford were abysmal at first.

No question he struggled for years. I don't think he really started to make a dent until he went to DC 101 in 1981. I'm sure his numbers in Hartford were abysmal at first.

and unfortunately in today's big $$$, corporate radio climate, there's no room for struggling radio personalities...

Ok, this may be tough for some but you cannot compare Roth's first weeks with the begining of Stern's career. Stern was probably making $15,000 a year in Hartford. No expecations, no built in audience, no advertisers banking on his name. Nothing. He was just like 1000's of other DJ's in the country trying to make a living.

He moved on to other jobs with increasing salary but nothing on the level of Dave until he actually won NYC over. By that time, Howard knew what he was going to do. He had his people in place along with his identity. Roth froma creative standpoint is Howard in Hartford but with the management of WNBC. Totally out of his league and he will fail because of this.

He is dealing with a corporation, not a two bit company. There is a board of directors and a CEO who has to look at the bottom line. He could care less if Dave needs 5 years to make a profit. He needs to make a profit now.

There is no time for a learning curve.

Guess this is as good a place as any to put this without starting a new thread.

The DJ on 'Hair Nation' just finished playing "ALAE" and said she was told by (of course she couldn't say who) 'a source' that a reunion will absolutely NOT be happening. She figures Dave was (is) just trying drum up some more listeners for the radio show.

Guess this is as good a place as any to put this without starting a new thread.

The DJ on 'Hair Nation' just finished playing "ALAE" and said she was told by (of course she couldn't say who) 'a source' that a reunion will absolutely NOT be happening. She figures Dave was (is) just trying drum up some more listeners for the radio show.


That's going out on a limb!

From when 1985?

Here's the difference though, Stern left Dave a shitload of listeners...

That don't mean shit. It's not even the same show format. I don't think the listeners are really the type to switch from lesbians getting bologna thrown at their ass to a debate over what politics, etc.

Dave will remain on air as long as he wants the gig. Corolla's numbers are even worse. Howard hasn't set the world on fire at Sirius either.

Dave following Howards gig is kind of like Sammy following Dave.....

That don't mean shit. It's not even the same show format. I don't think the listeners are really the type to switch from lesbians getting bologna thrown at their ass to a debate over what politics, etc.

Dave will remain on air as long as he wants the gig. Corolla's numbers are even worse. Howard hasn't set the world on fire at Sirius either.

Oh I know, Dave attracts such high brow listeners. :rolleyes:

Most of Stern's audience are college educated males with HHI's of $125,000. Do a little demographic research before you spew BS.

Also, trade publications say that Howard on Sirius is beating all of his competitors on terrestrial radio. So what are you talking about? His Sirius show is going very well, Sirius has quadrupled it's subscriber base since last March.

Not exactly sure where you are getting your info, but it ain't right.

No question he struggled for years. I don't think he really started to make a dent until he went to DC 101 in 1981.

I'm sure his numbers in Hartford were abysmal at first.

Stern didn't have the David Lee Roth legacy on day one either. For better or worse, people know who David Lee Roth is.

Who the hell knew Howard Stern on his first day? And I'm pretty sure Stern wasn't handed the prime Morning slot in NYC at millions of dollars a year either. It's apples and oranges with that argument.

That's going out on a limb!

No kidding. It's not like we didn't know any of that already. ANY of it.

Dave following Howards gig is kind of like Sammy following Dave.....

Hey.....thanks for opening that one up!
Sam was in the gig for the next decade. Does anyone seriously think the DLR radio show is gonna last the year?

Oh I know, Dave attracts such high brow listeners. :rolleyes:

Most of Stern's audience are college educated males with HHI's of $125,000. Do a little demographic research before you spew BS.

Also, trade publications say that Howard on Sirius is beating all of his competitors on terrestrial radio. So what are you talking about? His Sirius show is going very well, Sirius has quadrupled it's subscriber base since last March.

Not exactly sure where you are getting your info, but it ain't right.

The shows are completely different. Most fans that were left behind were not exactly waiting with open arms. I would have liked to seen Howard come in and replace himself a pseudo name. I bet his numbers would have dropped too.

Yeah, demographics. Oh the accuracy. "There are three types of lies - lies, damn lies, and statistics."

3 million plus subscribers, lets not forget Sirius counts subscriptions when a car is delivered to a dealership. And they all have Sirius because of Howard right! I have sirius and it sure as hell isn't because of him. If its wasn't for CBS suing him, the show would have zero content. But I subscribed in 06, so I am sure that I am counted as a Stern supporter. Stern hasn't been funny in a solid 15 years.

Both sat companies are pulling Enron type shit behind the scenes regarding subscriptions. Its doesn't matter, because just like the newspaper, paid radio , will be replaced by technology like podacasting. What the trade mags are basically saying is that people are turning off the radio.

He is 8 weeks in...time will tell. As far as comparing the two, Howard was the David Lee Roth of radio and David Lee Roth is the Sammy Hagar of radio.

That's sad.

Oh I know, Dave attracts such high brow listeners. :rolleyes:

Most of Stern's audience are college educated males with HHI's of $125,000. Do a little demographic research before you spew BS.

Also, trade publications say that Howard on Sirius is beating all of his competitors on terrestrial radio. So what are you talking about? His Sirius show is going very well, Sirius has quadrupled it's subscriber base since last March.

Not exactly sure where you are getting your info, but it ain't right.
Sirius's stock just went for shit, due to a lawsiut from his former employer.

He hasn't been sued.

The shows are completely different. Most fans that were left behind were not exactly waiting with open arms. I would have liked to seen Howard come in and replace himself a pseudo name. I bet his numbers would have dropped too.

I don't understand what you mean there, but ok.

Yeah, demographics. Oh the accuracy. "There are three types of lies - lies, damn lies, and statistics."

Whatever, that's not even an answer.

3 million plus subscribers, lets not forget Sirius counts subscriptions when a car is delivered to a dealership. And they all have Sirius because of Howard right! I have sirius and it sure as hell isn't because of him. If its wasn't for CBS suing him, the show would have zero content. But I subscribed in 06, so I am sure that I am counted as a Stern supporter. Stern hasn't been funny in a solid 15 years.

Nonsense.

Both sat companies are pulling Enron type shit behind the scenes regarding subscriptions. Its doesn't matter, because just like the newspaper, paid radio , will be replaced by technology like podacasting. What the trade mags are basically saying is that people are turning off the radio.

He is 8 weeks in...time will tell. As far as comparing the two, Howard was the David Lee Roth of radio and David Lee Roth is the Sammy Hagar of radio.

Nonsense again.

Dave following Howards gig is kind of like Sammy following Dave.....

the big difference here is that Sammy was actually successful when he replaced Dave, huge radio hits, #1cd's, big tours, vids on MTV..how can you compare that with a radio show that has not lasted 3 months and has total shit ratings? Nice throwing that card on the table cause you have no way to defend Dave...

One can also say that both Dave and Sam rode on Eddie Van Halen's coat tails.

Both guys best work was with Eddie and their worst without him.

Without Eddie, Roth would not have a radio gig and Sammy would never have owned Cabo Wabo.

the big difference here is that Sammy was actually successful when he replaced Dave, huge radio hits, #1cd's, big tours, vids on MTV..how can you compare that with a radio show that has not lasted 3 months and has total shit ratings? Nice throwing that card on the table cause you have no way to defend Dave...

i think this is stretching hagar's success..

hagar-evh= billy squier

i think this is stretching hagar's success..

hagar-evh= billy squier

well they werent talking about Sammy solo, they were talking about Sammy replacing Dave in vh which is worlds apart from DAve replacing stern..

Wow this turned into a Dave v. Sammy thread.

How very unsurprising.

doesn't every thread turn into a Sam vs. Dave thread sooner or later?

doesn't every thread turn into a Sam vs. Dave thread sooner or later?
It sure seems so....... :brickwall

Gary!

doesn't every thread turn into a Sam vs. Dave thread sooner or later?

Yeah, usually when simpletons have nothing useful to add, they just throw out a random insult to the singer they don't like.

It never gets old :rolleyes:

Actually it does. :brickwall

Yeah, usually when simpletons have nothing useful to add, they just throw out a random insult to the singer they don't like.

It never gets old :rolleyes:

sure it does...never realized how bad it was until a few months ago, it's getting to the point where you can't say anything anymore without starting a war, everyone is so caught up with ripping the other guy and defending thier guy-and yes I'm guilty of this, don't even go into the "worst lyrics" thread-that all this site is is a bash fest..I wish people could just drop some of the bs, this is a great band no matter who the lead singer is, was or will be..different strokes for different folkes..

Yeah what happened to just lovin the band and our Edward?? :confused:

sure it does...never realized how bad it was until a few months ago, it's getting to the point where you can't say anything anymore without starting a war, everyone is so caught up with ripping the other guy and defending thier guy-and yes I'm guilty of this, don't even go into the "worst lyrics" thread-that all this site is is a bash fest..I wish people could just drop some of the bs, this is a great band no matter who the lead singer is, was or will be..different strokes for different folkes..

I couldn't agree more. It's very easy to get caught up in it, when it's light-hearted joking it's one thing, but it usually turns nasty.

It gets VERY old (I was being sarcastic in the earlier post when I said it never gets old :) )

Ohio MediaWatch
Friday, March 03, 2006

"Diamond Dave" Out?

There are radio rumblings that the one-week vacation by CBS Radio syndicated star David Lee Roth could become a permanent vacation.

In the wake of absolutely anemic first-trend ratings for "Diamond Dave" at his CBS flagship, where he replaced long-time #1 host Howard Stern after Stern's departure for satellite radio, and Roth being off for a week just two months into his show, tongues are wagging about his future.

A lot of that could be speculation, but AllAccess jumps into the breach with this note today:

"(Is there) any truth to very strong, but unconfirmed, rumors that DAVID LEE ROTH is on the bubble? Is a decision on his fate being decided as you read this?

Word is attention is turning to WYSP/PHILLY's KIDD CHRIS who has been subbing for DLR all this week in the CITY OF BROTHERLY CHEESESTEAKS. Hmmmmmmmmmm!"

Very telling, aside from Roth's early vacation from a network of stations including Cleveland's WNCX/98.5, is how CBS handled this week. It made absolutely no effort to offer Roth tapes to his group of affiliates, and as far as we know, every station handled the fill this week locally with live bodies.

Here, WNCX has aired "Five Cleveland Mornings", a week's worth of shows talking with former local radio veterans (just about anyone who was on WNCX, WMMS or the old M105, for example) and music and talk from local musician Alex Bevan. WNCX PD Bill Louis has been aboard to host.

Photos and a list of the guests appear at WNCX's website. But what's NOT there may be more telling - as far as we can tell, aside from his contact information on the "Contact Us" page, there is no other mention or picture of David Lee Roth on WNCX's website at this time. He's certainly not mentioned on their front page, or in the "Jocks" listing. In fact, it reminds of us of what WNCX did when Howard Stern's departure was announced...they also purged Stern's bio and information.

But if that bubble bursts for Roth, what does WNCX do permanently? We heard one of the shows this week, and actually enjoyed it. But we're not sure if that could be held up over a daily show in the long-term. Does WNCX try to mount a local show for the first time since Howard Stern showed up years ago, or do they throw in with Kidd Chris or whoever WFNY/New York gets to replace Stern?

Kidd Chris may actually have some credibility with the former Stern audience, assuming they even remotely try to find his old stations again. He contributed some bits to Stern's show when he was a talk show host at Stern's Sacramento affiliate.

Though we've repeatedly stated that one trend does not a show's future make, it would appear that former Stern listeners are headed for the exits with body parts on fire, and we remind folks that DLR is a rock star...prone to wild behavior and unpredictability. Given the current situation, Roth himself may just be saying "hell with this, I'm going back on the road"...and CBS Radio may be more than happy to oblige him to stop the bleeding.

I don't understand what you mean there, but ok.



Whatever, that's not even an answer.



Nonsense.



Nonsense again.


Since you say say so.

The shows are completely different. Most fans that were left behind were not exactly waiting with open arms. I would have liked to seen Howard come in and replace himself a pseudo name. I bet his numbers would have dropped too.

Wow I cannot believe this, Brett... Record this one for the ages! I am defending Howie here!!! But dude, even if Howie came under a psuedoname, his numbers would not have dropped. The shows are completely different, one is an organized show that has content (albiet boring, unfunny content) and the other is a ego driven nutcase with no content or anything but a trainwreck of a show. It was fun watching dave the first few weeks ramble on and talk incoherrently... But he is done. the writing is on the wall bro.


Yeah, demographics. Oh the accuracy. "There are three types of lies - lies, damn lies, and statistics."

Arbitration is viewed as a legitimate source for statistics on the radio industry... They tell the truth, Roth TANKED... and now they are looking to replace him most likely, or completely re-tool the show. Who knows at this point.


3 million plus subscribers, lets not forget Sirius counts subscriptions when a car is delivered to a dealership. And they all have Sirius because of Howard right! I have sirius and it sure as hell isn't because of him. If its wasn't for CBS suing him, the show would have zero content. But I subscribed in 06, so I am sure that I am counted as a Stern supporter. Stern hasn't been funny in a solid 15 years.

Thou speakest the truth, Sirius does count subs in cars delivered to the dealership. This was widely reported. Howie has nothing on his show except bitching about CBS now, since he cannot bitch about the FCC, or bitch about Sirius, or bitch about howie with his howie numbers. But stern lost the funny 10 years ago, not 15...


Both sat companies are pulling Enron type shit behind the scenes regarding subscriptions. Its doesn't matter, because just like the newspaper, paid radio , will be replaced by technology like podacasting. What the trade mags are basically saying is that people are turning off the radio.

He is 8 weeks in...time will tell. As far as comparing the two, Howard was the David Lee Roth of radio and David Lee Roth is the Sammy Hagar of radio.
Actually, the only thing that XM is doing which is questionable in my mind, is how they report the churn (discontinued subs) rate. If podcasting is going to be the next thing, why is it that XM has joined with samsung and pioneer with MP3/portable units on the go due out this month. Or the rumors that either Sirius and/or XM may go into a business model together with Apple seeing the Sat Radio has around 9+ million subs?

Dave is done though, he may come back there may be a complete overhaul... who knows... But I think you can chalk this up to another failure in a long line of recent ones...

I was listening to Tom Leykus on the way home from work this afternoon, and one of the subjects he just happened to be talking about was morning radio.

He mentioned how he has great respect for, and is a major supporter of, Adam Carolla (I find him boring as fuck), but he kind of made a snide remark when alluding to Dave. He didn't mention him by name, but he did say something to the effect of "Well, when your background is either an EMT or a rock star..."

He was talking about how he finds it ludicrous that people are so hot and heavy to try and shoot down a radio program that's barely been on 6 weeks, and ready to call it a failure, just because the host is someone everyone has high expectations for, and I pretty much agree.

Me? I don't miss Stern one bit. Carolla is not that funny. I just wish the stations out here would carry Roth's show so I could give it a listen. Anything has to be better than the stupid-ass "Mikey Show" on Rock 105.3.

I'm thankin the stars above that we got Carolla over DLR. But then again I was a huge fan of The Man Show. I notice he's already doing a show from Vegas. Must mean someone with moolah has faith doing a remote gig like that so soon after the debut.

[QUOTE=Bostonian] If podcasting is going to be the next thing, why is it that XM has joined with samsung and pioneer with MP3/portable units on the go due out this month. Or the rumors that either Sirius and/or XM may go into a business model together with Apple seeing the Sat Radio has around 9+ million subs?
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Yes, XM is going hard core on the next wave of MP3/XM to go combos.

Sirius already has a MP3/to go unit on the market. Saw the ad in best buy last week. can't remember the company...

OMG LL you watched the Man Show??? :wtf:

Well I guess someone had to. I know my nephew really liked it. Can't say the same for myself.

OMG LL you watched the Man Show??? :wtf:

Well I guess someone had to. I know my nephew really liked it. Can't say the same for myself.


Your nephew obviously is a young man of taste. :thumb:

He likes to think so. :thumb:

Gary!meow






obscure Spongebob reference...

Posted on: 03/04/06 09:14 PM
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From All Access:
Big Apple Peelings At CBS?
ALL ACCESS hears some BIG changes are thisclose to taking place at CBS RADIO/NEW YORK. Is a PD about to walk the plank and be replaced by someone from the LEFT COAST?

And, any truth to very strong, but unconfirmed, rumors that DAVID LEE ROTH is on the bubble? Is a decision on his fate being decided as you read this?

Word is attention is turning to WYSP/PHILLY's KIDD CHRIS who has been subbing for DLR all this week in the CITY OF BROTHERLY CHEESESTEAKS. Hmmmmmmmmmm!

Thou speakest the truth, Sirius does count subs in cars delivered to the dealership. This was widely reported. Howie has nothing on his show except bitching about CBS now, since he cannot bitch about the FCC, or bitch about Sirius, or bitch about howie with his howie numbers. But stern lost the funny 10 years ago, not 15...

Totally correct.

Additonally, Stern stole most of his early material (the stuff that got him famous) from Steve Dahl and Gerry Meyer in Chicago.

The only reason Stern could pull it off was he *wasn't* a nutcase, and Dahl/Meyer couldn't keep it together with the old booze and personal problems.

So in reality, even Stern is a plagiarizing poser who got where he is because he was able to stay out of personal drama.

Roth hasn't been that lucky or intelligent.

Additonally, Stern stole most of his early material (the stuff that got him famous) from Steve Dahl and Gerry Meyer in Chicago.


That was interesting to read because I always remember Stern saying that there are people who rip "him" off. And I'm sure there are but he's no better evidently.

Totally correct.

Additonally, Stern stole most of his early material (the stuff that got him famous) from Steve Dahl and Gerry Meyer in Chicago.

The only reason Stern could pull it off was he *wasn't* a nutcase, and Dahl/Meyer couldn't keep it together with the old booze and personal problems.

So in reality, even Stern is a plagiarizing poser who got where he is because he was able to stay out of personal drama.

Roth hasn't been that lucky or intelligent.

Steve Dahl and Garry Meier were the SHIT back then! Man it's too bad they "broke up", Steve really sucks now. It's funny, the booze probably kept them from being huge, but cleaning up has made them unlistenable.

Here's a blast from the past (for Chicago linkers at least :drunk: )

1981 WLS Jock SHEET (http://www.scottchilders.com/timecapsule/steveandgarry.htm)

Maybe he has been singing in the shower and everyone has had enough!!!!!

Was David back from vacation today?

I tuned in breifly and heard him talking to Elizabeth Hayt this morning...

Was David back from vacation today?


Yep, he was back on.

Is that good or bad?? :confused:

Is Diamond Dave ready to dance the night away with his old buddies again?
According to this report (http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001773120) by Billboard dated Jan. 3, David Lee Roth is close to reuniting with Van Halen. Apparently it was Eddie who was being the jerk and not Diamond Dave. Well, as with Axl Rose releasing his "Chinese Democracy" album, I'll believe it when I see it and I don't really know if it's something I want to see. I mean come on, you guys have enough money so stop making records and stop touring and enjoy your lives. Can't you just kick back with a bottle of Cabo Wabo and dance the night away into the land of classic rock radio stations across the U.S.?

It's almost like that old philosophical question about a tree falling in the woods and no one being around to listen. If the members of an old classic rock band reunite after years of fussing and bickering with each other would anybody actually want to listen? I'm not sure if I want to see David Lee Roth jumping off a drum riser in spandex in am attempt to relive his glory days from the 1980s. But hey, if The Eagles can reunite and milk baby boomers for millions of dollars on their umpteenth farewell tour then maybe people actually want to see a fully reformed Van Halen.

On a side note, did you know Eddie Van Halen used to play with his back to the crowd before VH got signed because he invented a technique called "tapping" that he didn't want people to steal?

SOURCE (http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/earcandy/archives/101844.asp)

Well if I wanna know what this guy thinks I'll effin ask!!! Jeez. :rolleyes:

Must be a music critic or something.

Is Diamond Dave ready to dance the night away with his old buddies again?
According to this report (http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001773120) by Billboard dated Jan. 3, David Lee Roth is close to reuniting with Van Halen. Apparently it was Eddie who was being the jerk and not Diamond Dave. Well, as with Axl Rose releasing his "Chinese Democracy" album, I'll believe it when I see it and I don't really know if it's something I want to see. I mean come on, you guys have enough money so stop making records and stop touring and enjoy your lives. Can't you just kick back with a bottle of Cabo Wabo and dance the night away into the land of classic rock radio stations across the U.S.?

It's almost like that old philosophical question about a tree falling in the woods and no one being around to listen. If the members of an old classic rock band reunite after years of fussing and bickering with each other would anybody actually want to listen? I'm not sure if I want to see David Lee Roth jumping off a drum riser in spandex in am attempt to relive his glory days from the 1980s. But hey, if The Eagles can reunite and milk baby boomers for millions of dollars on their umpteenth farewell tour then maybe people actually want to see a fully reformed Van Halen.

On a side note, did you know Eddie Van Halen used to play with his back to the crowd before VH got signed because he invented a technique called "tapping" that he didn't want people to steal?

SOURCE (http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/earcandy/archives/101844.asp)

Based on the SOURCE I think it's just wishful thinking. Time will tell. At this point I wouldn't minbd one last VH tour from the original (if Mikey would even do it) band and then let Ed and Al find two new guys (or one new guy and Billy Sheehan on Bass) to play and create music with.