According to The New York Daily News (http://www.nydailynews.com/), former VAN HALEN singer David Lee Roth once again called for a reunion of the band's original lineup during his "Roth Radio" show on Tuesday (Feb. 14).

"People want the reunion," said Roth. "No one will pay respect to what any of us do [musically] until we get the reunion out of the way.

"Once Eddie [Van Halen] does that, everything else he does can be seen with a fresh eye."

Roth made no secret of his own enthusiasm for a reunion tour, indicating he'd already gotten the okay from CBS Radio executives to take a leave of absence if such a tour happened.

"VAN HALEN would go out for three months," he said. "That's all Eddie could handle. And then the next morning, I'd be back at this mic at 6 a.m."

A tour would also pay well. Roth said the band already has offers on the table for $1 million a show.

However much Roth may want the band to reunite, however, he wasn't using sweet talk yesterday to make it happen.

He compared Eddie Van Halen to Sly Stone, whose brief and ragged appearance on last week's Grammy telecast rekindled reports of substance abuse.

What's happened with Van Halen "may be on a par with what's happened with Sly Stone," said Roth.

Roth also dismissed recent VAN HALEN shows as "lite rock" and said touring with a singer hired from a TV search would make the band "a novelty act."

He said the situation was different with INXS, the first band on "Rock Star", "because their original lead singer was dead."

He suggested the main reason anyone would watch VAN HALEN on "Rock Star" would be "the Gong Show factor ... seeing who screws up the most."
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He's got ... hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh hopes
He's got ... hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh hopes.
He's got ... high apple pie in the skyyyyyyyyy hopes.

According to The New York Daily News (http://www.nydailynews.com/), former VAN HALEN singer David Lee Roth once again called for a reunion of the band's original lineup during his "Roth Radio" show on Tuesday (Feb. 14).

"People want the reunion," said Roth. "No one will pay respect to what any of us do [musically] until we get the reunion out of the way.

"Once Eddie [Van Halen] does that, everything else he does can be seen with a fresh eye."

Roth made no secret of his own enthusiasm for a reunion tour, indicating he'd already gotten the okay from CBS Radio executives to take a leave of absence if such a tour happened.

"VAN HALEN would go out for three months," he said. "That's all Eddie could handle. And then the next morning, I'd be back at this mic at 6 a.m."

A tour would also pay well. Roth said the band already has offers on the table for $1 million a show.

However much Roth may want the band to reunite, however, he wasn't using sweet talk yesterday to make it happen.

He compared Eddie Van Halen to Sly Stone, whose brief and ragged appearance on last week's Grammy telecast rekindled reports of substance abuse.

What's happened with Van Halen "may be on a par with what's happened with Sly Stone," said Roth.

Roth also dismissed recent VAN HALEN shows as "lite rock" and said touring with a singer hired from a TV search would make the band "a novelty act."

He said the situation was different with INXS, the first band on "Rock Star", "because their original lead singer was dead."

He suggested the main reason anyone would watch VAN HALEN on "Rock Star" would be "the Gong Show factor ... seeing who screws up the most."
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I'll say it again, he is digging his own grave. He needs to shut the fuck up. I guess he is desperate for ratings or is a complete bitter asshole. What does he think he is accomplishing by talking like this? I would hate to be his manager.

This is the most level headed comment Dave has made in awhile. A reunion would be nice, it probably wouldn't last though. A quick money grab and then we are left right back here scratching our heads and talking about another reunion. I would love to see it happen, but 20+ years changes people, it would take a miracle to pull off. Relationships change and so do people and the comment about Sly Stone may have been too much and another push away from a reunion. Just my opinion.

I have a feeling CBS is gonna give him a lot more than 3 months off.

:funny:

Im listening to Dave from yesterday.

Man, he is going off on Eddie, calling him out. Saying wake the hell up and let's do it right. Telling him to stop being a little baby...

Does Dave talk about anything but VH? My he must be boring 95% of his audience to death.

Does Dave talk about anything but VH? My he must be boring 95% of his audience to death.

And the remaining 5% are pissed

Does Dave talk about anything but VH? My he must be boring 95% of his audience to death.

Yes.

Just alot yesterday and that comment Friday.

Would Robert Plant talk about Led Zep if he had a radio show? ;) :p

And the remaining 5% are pissed

Or on a cruise.

Hehe, so much Van Halen talk.....hope it all pulls through somehow, someway.

Or on a cruise.


Buddy, don't say that around here or you'll get into trouble. lol

Loons and I got a whippin' for that one. ;)

"I'm the king of the world..." OOF!!! :o

Shit I'll go on a fucking cruise anyday, who wouldn't! You guys are fucking crazy. If I can get away from the daily threads everywhere hearing about how Dave is whining about VH, it would be even better. :)

Buddy, don't say that around here or you'll get into trouble. lol

Loons and I got a whippin' for that one. ;)

"I'm the king of the world..." OOF!!! :o

Sorry!
:{ :(

I should've said Dave is bald!

Bro, listen to yesterday's podcasts of the Roth show. I've provided direct links in the thread in this forum.

Awesome.

Roth also dismissed recent VAN HALEN shows as "lite rock" and said touring with a singer hired from a TV search would make the band "a novelty act."

He said the situation was different with INXS, the first band on "Rock Star", "because their original lead singer was dead."

He suggested the main reason anyone would watch VAN HALEN on "Rock Star" would be "the Gong Show factor ... seeing who screws up the most."

Anybody else find this interesting? Why is he talking about Rockstar? Does he know something? Just a thought...

It seems like that is just Dave being Dave. He is probably at the point where he knows that he and Eddie will never be pals and will probably not get along. This whole VH thing is about money, probably the only thing that Ed will listen to nowadays. He is telling it like it is, as he always has, instead of hiding behind a bottle like Ed seems to be doing. If the reunion doesnt happen, so be it. To me, it probably wouldnt be much fun watching the show anyway knowing how much they despise each other.

Buddy, don't say that around here or you'll get into trouble. lol

Loons and I got a whippin' for that one. ;)

"I'm the king of the world..." OOF!!! :o

Is Issac going to be on this cruise?

Count me in if he is serving rum and cokes.

Yep, yesterday was a good listen. Dave is making a pretty good case for a reunion and I'm thinkin thats about the only chance we got left.

Dave is sad........Down hill from 1984.............

Its funny that Dave talks about how screwed up everyone else is......He is in the same category as Sly Stone...

Come on Dave give me a break..............

I really think if I was Eddie and Alex to just do it.

Then they can finally put the nail in the coffin that was VH. No more reunion talks, no more what ifs. Heck when they can inducted into the RRHOF, it won't make it awkward.

However I would only do one show. Not three months. Do one out in LA and make it a PPV.

Yeah. One huge show would be good. I'm sure they could at least somewhat get along for that one show...maybe...I agree with Dave in that Eddie can finally move on after a reunion. There would be no more shoulda, woulda, couldas. People would have to accept that what's done is done. The only reason it isn't done is because of the tease in '96. If the '96 incident never happened, nobody would expect a reunion.

I really think if I was Eddie and Alex to just do it.

Then they can finally put the nail in the coffin that was VH. No more reunion talks, no more what ifs. Heck when they can inducted into the RRHOF, it won't make it awkward.

However I would only do one show. Not three months. Do one out in LA and make it a PPV.


Very bad idea...
they can do a one-off, but in philly and make it PPV..with golden ring tix as well..

Dave's best argument is that everyone in the world wants it, that wont go away and the money is there.So do the reunion and become free. Then its all over and as he said, everyone will respect whatever else they do from there..like he said yesterday, you have to give the people what they want before they give you what you want.

Before Vh3 came out, what did the world want? Acvh reunion/album/tour..and they didnt give it to us..so what was the result?
Ive said many times, i love the album, aside from its production flaws, but in the mainstream, people closed their minds to it as well.

It's pretty simple really. And Ed's continued resistance is against more than DLR..he's resisting the collective will of music fans worldwide..To do that, he must have some pretty unbelievable reasoning...

think about this as well...how hard or easy is it for Ed to feel whatever it is he's feeling, resist the want of the world AND NOT say anything about it to ease the pressure? i mean, a simple, straightforward 10 minute press release detailing why it will or wont ever happen would certainly go a long way

Well the Diamond One certainly makes some good points doesn't he.

I gotta say, I agree with his rationale (for lack of a better word).

S'what I've been sayin all along around here. Get it over with and move on. Gotta hear more live Dave with the boys at least one more time.

I don't agree with the one show thing back east, but if that's what they decide so be it. If I were them I'd keep it in SoCal since that's their roots. Hell I'd make the trek for that.

Lot of negativity round here today - cheer up guys, 3 months for a tour is fine by me as they can do the UK in a week!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Keep spouting Dave!!!!

They can easily stay at my place for a European/Dutch tour :D

I'm not negative about anything regarding VH.

I'm actually optimistic as ever for these guys til they tell us something different. It's an acquired habit from the decades of lovin VH. It's never official til they tell us it is.

Nothing is over, until they say it is!!!! Was it over when the Germans attacked Pearl Harbor?? Hell no!!!! :D

No matter how long we wait. :sleep:

Dave is sad........Down hill from 1984.............

Yeah.... 4MILL salary to take over Howard Stern's radio slot .... write-ups in the NY newspapers.... 5 MILL dollar home in Pasadena.... what a f'in loser he is. He couldn't sink any lower .... pretty soon he'll be calling one of us for a job and a place to stay......

He can stay at MY place. :sssh:

I'd rather VH do an album than a tour... I realize I differ from alot of you, because I'm happy that I can hear classic VH by playing bootlegs and the albums. Them playing live together isn't going to really effect me.

I think this is Dave saying he knows he will never be back in the band for good,
but to tour and give the classic band closure. This might not be as bad as some
think... I think Dave visioned of being back in the band for good, but he's basically now that he knows that isn't possible.

I agree with his comments about Sly Stone.

I guess I just don't understand the rationale behind passionately calling for a reunion and insulting Ed in the same breath. It seems counter-productive. :confused:

Yeah.... 4MILL salary to take over Howard Stern's radio slot .... write-ups in the NY newspapers.... 5 MILL dollar home in Pasadena.... what a f'in loser he is. He couldn't sink any lower .... pretty soon he'll be calling one of us for a job and a place to stay......



Roth is a joke...........His radio show is a joke....His cover band is a joke..
His spray job on his head is a joke.................

Yeah.... 4MILL salary to take over Howard Stern's radio slot .... write-ups in the NY newspapers.... 5 MILL dollar home in Pasadena.... what a f'in loser he is. He couldn't sink any lower .... pretty soon he'll be calling one of us for a job and a place to stay......

Cool maybe then I can talk some sense to him. :)

Somehow though, I'd think he'd like to forget most of those write-ups, they've been anything but praising for the most part.

I guess I just don't understand the rationale behind passionately calling for a reunion and insulting Ed in the same breath. It seems counter-productive. :confused:

then you havent been following anything Dave has done for the past 30 years. He is telling it like it is. If there IS a reunion, it will be for money (as far as the Van Halens are concerned) and Dave is ok with that. He doesnt have to like them to play a concert or two with them. It would help, but it just aint going to happen in this lifetime. I think Dave has figured that out. I am sure that Dave wants a reunion for the fans, but if it doesnt happen its not going to sway him either way at this ridiculous point in the VH's career.

I just find it funny that Dave plays judge and jury on all things VH when his post-VH career has had HUGE pitfalls and embarrassments as well. Frankly I still think he believes he's as relevant as ever, especially because of this radio show...a show no less that most of the country doesn't even get. Dave tells things the way he sees it obviously, and that's where it should be left. He just sounds so fucking bitter and angry.

If there IS a reunion, it will be for money (as far as the Van Halens are concerned) and Dave is ok with that. He doesnt have to like them to play a concert or two with them. It would help, but it just aint going to happen in this lifetime. I think Dave has figured that out. I am sure that Dave wants a reunion for the fans,

Dave was just cryin a few weeks ago about the millions he missed out on because Ed and Al didn't want to tour with him. The 2000/2001 whatever failed reunion attempt because "lawyers got involved" gee I wonder what they were arguing over?

IMO, for Dave, it's all about closure and more importantly money. He knows that they can do at least one last reunion to cash in and call it a day all in one big bang.

And We'd all be there :D

then you havent been following anything Dave has done for the past 30 years. He is telling it like it is.

Yes, you're right, I haven't followed Dave's career very closely. :)

So he's telling it like it IS?

It's fact that Ed's like Sly Stone. It's fact that Ed would only last three months. It's fact that they have offers for one million a show. It's fact that nobody will take anything they do musically seriously, including his own solo gigs, until they reunite. All these are facts?

What you meant was, he's telling it as HE sees it. Which is fine. I just don't believe Ed and Al will respond in a manner conducive to a reunion with these tactics.

The only thing that was fact outta Dave's mouth in that snippet was that VH doing reality TV to find a lead singer would be like a Gong show novelty act. That much is a fact. :)

Seems to me he yet again put foot in mouth; not just wanking about a reunion and bashing Ed concurrently, but also admitting in a roundabout fashion his own solo musical efforts, not just Van Halen's post-Dave, haven't been taken seriously.

I'd like them to play just so everyone on all these sites bitching about it will STFU and we can move on with life.

I guess for those of us who saw Dave with VH, it's not the end of the world if it doesn't happen again, it will NEVER be close to what it was then anyway. I hope all of you are prepared for that reality. But if it will stop all this senseless bickering between the fans, then let's do it and get it over with.

I havent heard too much from dlr that is cutting Ed down. You have to hear it in his context to get the gist of what he says.On paper, words can mean alot of different things..just like on here..

One point ot make is that one of the reasons Ed may resist is because DLR doesnt treat him like a God, doesnt let him be lazy in his music or do just what he wants. IMO, DLR would get the best of what's still in Ed musically. He wouldnt put up with half-assed crap or too many love songs.
DLR acts relevant because he IS relevant. HE is Stern's replacement on national radio. That's relevant. He is still the preferred frontman for VH, 20+ yrs since he's been with them. That's relevant because the fans want him back. Dave is and always will be equal with EVH because he's an original member, an important one at that and Ed/VH hasn't eclipsed anything they did with DLR in the band. It's not like they didnt sell any records or change RnR w/ DLR..they did. They did nothing close to that w/ Sammy. Yes, they made millions upon millions of dollars and won a grammy..but they may have won a grammy w/DLR on "5150" as most of the music was written with DLR in mind.

So time has passed and dlr hasnt done anything to speak of either.All that means is that the sum of the whole is more than the parts ..time hasn't diminished dlr's status as legend in that band one iota..he is still the top dog as far as fans are concerned.

Not only is DLR relevant, he's right on the money with his timing as well. If he cant get it done with the stage he has now, it wont ever get done. Everything seems right..no singer, no plans to do anything, what the hell is Ed waiting for?

I'd like them to play just so everyone on all these sites bitching about it will STFU and we can move on with life.


LOFL!

But then everybody would bitch for years about how the reunion RULED or the reunion SUCKED. How Dave was back and bad, or how Dave was shockingly embarassing.

VH fans. We have learned well to bite the hand that feeds us. :)

I don't think Dave is relevant to anyone but VH fans. Those that think his radio show are making him relevant, obviously are forgetting that the home of Van Halen and 12 million people don't get it, and aren't searching the net looking for it.

Nothing is over, until they say it is!!!! Was it over when the Germans attacked Pearl Harbor?? Hell no!!!! :D




Did you ever read a history book ???

I'd like them to play just so everyone on all these sites bitching about it will STFU and we can move on with life.

I guess for those of us who saw Dave with VH, it's not the end of the world if it doesn't happen again, it will NEVER be close to what it was then anyway. I hope all of you are prepared for that reality. But if it will stop all this senseless bickering between the fans, then let's do it and get it over with.

I agree. Were all VH fans in one form or another. However, Dave in his prime couldn't remember the words the songs he wrote. What would it be like now? Somehow I feel it would probably be an huge letdown. Although part of me does hope to have the opportunity to find out.

Yeah.... 4MILL salary to take over Howard Stern's radio slot .... write-ups in the NY newspapers.... 5 MILL dollar home in Pasadena.... what a f'in loser he is. He couldn't sink any lower .... pretty soon he'll be calling one of us for a job and a place to stay......

Thats funny as hell....even if nothing happens its still a blast to read everybodys opinions.

I always wonder how many die-hard fans we would have if there was no internet. Just imagine no internet would we all still care? Would we be waiting month after month for new magazines only to read about hot sauce and tequila?

No swapping of boots, pics, or rare anything how many would be Die-Hard still?

Did you ever read a history book ???

LMAO! Dude that line is from the movie "Animal House," it's a JOKE. John Belushi...one of the great comedies of all time. Check it out if you've never seen it.

i was gonna ask if he'd ever watched movies. :D

Yes, they made millions upon millions of dollars and won a grammy..but they may have won a grammy w/DLR on "5150" as most of the music was written with DLR in mind.

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Ohhh good lord, can we have a funeral for this arguement already. :rolleyes:

Did you ever read a history book ???

OMG!!! :wtf:

That's the late great John Belushi from Animal House. :thumb:

Don't tell me you've never seen???


Thanks for givin him a clue Brett.

Kudos to you Mr. Roth! Make it happen! You alone carry the torch of CVH. Give the fans what they want. God knows the VH's wont get off their complacent, procrastinating asses. They lack leadership.

Dave's best argument is that everyone in the world wants it, that wont go away and the money is there.So do the reunion and become free. Then its all over and as he said, everyone will respect whatever else they do from there..like he said yesterday, you have to give the people what they want before they give you what you want.




THAT is the bottom line! everyone read that post from perticelli over and over and over again until it sinks in.:thumb:

they can Rock Star, shooting star, catch a rising star, wish upon a star all they fuckin' want AFTER the reunion with DLR

I can see it now, ed is trying on his kicking shoe, so Dave better be wearing a cup!! :yell:

Very bad idea...
they can do a one-off, but in philly and make it PPV..with golden ring tix as well..

Dave's best argument is that everyone in the world wants it, that wont go away and the money is there.So do the reunion and become free. Then its all over and as he said, everyone will respect whatever else they do from there..like he said yesterday, you have to give the people what they want before they give you what you want.

Before Vh3 came out, what did the world want? Acvh reunion/album/tour..and they didnt give it to us..so what was the result?
Ive said many times, i love the album, aside from its production flaws, but in the mainstream, people closed their minds to it as well.

It's pretty simple really. And Ed's continued resistance is against more than DLR..he's resisting the collective will of music fans worldwide..To do that, he must have some pretty unbelievable reasoning...

think about this as well...how hard or easy is it for Ed to feel whatever it is he's feeling, resist the want of the world AND NOT say anything about it to ease the pressure? i mean, a simple, straightforward 10 minute press release detailing why it will or wont ever happen would certainly go a long way


You know, i once had this girlfriend, when we first met it was just great. All my friends were telling me that i should settle down and marry her. They almost talked me into to it. We had a falling out and we broke up. I was sad for awhile but i felt it would have never worked between us. I was just something about her and i could not place it. My friends told me how dumb i was and how my life would be shitty because i broke it off with her. For TWO long years my friends kept tell me to get back with her. They told me the she wanted to get back with me and how much she cared for me. I wasnt mean to her to just told her we were not made to be together and i hope she would find someone new and go on with her life. Several years later she call me, FROM JAIL, asking me to help her, i went down and bailed her out. I asked her why she as in jail she said that she was a hooker and got picked up of that and they found drugs on her. well i reached into my wallet and gave her some more money and told that was it from me and left her at a bus stop. she still tries to call me to this day. but the past is the past and no mater how good it was between us years ago there is no way in hell i would ever consider getting back with that nasty bitch. i imagin Ed and Alex feel the same about dave.

she said that she was a hooker .

I like the way the line runs up the back of her stockings

I don't think Dave is relevant to anyone but VH fans. Those that think his radio show are making him relevant, obviously are forgetting that the home of Van Halen and 12 million people don't get it, and aren't searching the net looking for it.

Ive heard that the DLR show is actually starting to pick up new affiliates. miami was one that was mentioned on his show, he mentioned another out west, but i dont recall which. Being as it's 6 weeks into it, i expect the other affiliates to look at a qtrs worth of ratings before considering picking him up or not, so the jury is neccessarily still out on this.

I am wondering why people are ripping on dave though. Is it purely in defense of EVH?
Im also wondering what people expected from DLR's show and why they assume it will suck?

I do agree with one thing,however. Ive seen DLR w/ VH in its prime, 3 times. it will NEVER be like that again.
I, for one, aren't expecting that. Im also looking for closure and i really want new music. I'd trade new tunes for a CVH tour..but the tour is where the money is..i wouldnt complain either..i'd go front row for sure and just marvel at the chance of seeing them one last time, and hearing all the good songs...could you imagine that concert setlist?

Maybe that's ed's problem...DLR wont be singing and sammy Vh and Ed cant imagine not playing some of it...anyone agree with that thought?



Yes, they made millions upon millions of dollars and won a grammy..but they may have won a grammy w/DLR on "5150" as most of the music was written with DLR in mind.



Ohhh good lord, can we have a funeral for this arguement already.
02.15.06 01:42 PM [/QUOTE]


I dont understand your objection,counselor...

You know, i once had this girlfriend, when we first met it was just great. All my friends were telling me that i should settle down and marry her. They almost talked me into to it. We had a falling out and we broke up. I was sad for awhile but i felt it would have never worked between us. I was just something about her and i could not place it. My friends told me how dumb i was and how my life would be shitty because i broke it off with her. For TWO long years my friends kept tell me to get back with her. They told me the she wanted to get back with me and how much she cared for me. I wasnt mean to her to just told her we were not made to be together and i hope she would find someone new and go on with her life. Several years later she call me, FROM JAIL, asking me to help her, i went down and bailed her out. I asked her why she as in jail she said that she was a hooker and got picked up of that and they found drugs on her. well i reached into my wallet and gave her some more money and told that was it from me and left her at a bus stop. she still tries to call me to this day. but the past is the past and no mater how good it was between us years ago there is no way in hell i would ever consider getting back with that nasty bitch. i imagin Ed and Alex feel the same about dave.



There's a big difference between love and business.

We got closure with Dave, it was called "1984." Dave certainly had closure, he walked out.

They're all hookers man. No surprise there. She just got caught.

We got closure with Dave, it was called "1984." Dave certainly had closure, he walked out.

oh well, if ya'll want em' to go on Solid Gold or American Idol more power to ya. I hear Clay Aiken needs a gig :thumb:

maybe they can get this chick to be one of the judges

http://ladybunny.net/blog/wayland.jpg

Pet...not to be a dick, but the Grammy was for F.U.C.K., not 5150.

oh well, if ya'll want em' to go on Solid Gold or American Idol more power to ya. I hear Clay Aiken needs a gig :thumb:

maybe they can get this chick to be one of the judges

http://ladybunny.net/blog/wayland.jpg

Seems the only people who wanted them to go on a show like that are DLR fans.

I was thinking...

Why not call up Bono and have him sort this all out. Hell he can save world hunger, AIDS and poverty....this should be freaking easy for him.

THAT is the bottom line! everyone read that post from perticelli over and over and over again until it sinks in.:thumb:

they can Rock Star, shooting star, catch a rising star, wish upon a star all they fuckin' want AFTER the reunion with DLR


Right on!!!!!!!!!!

We got closure with Dave, it was called "1984." Dave certainly had closure, he walked out.

Actually you would have to consider the two tunes from BOV1 the closure thingy. And Dave wasn't the one who walked ;)

I was thinking...

Why not call up Bono and have him sort this all out. Hell he can save world hunger, AIDS and poverty....this should be freaking easy for him.


I like the way you think young man. :thumb:

Pet...not to be a dick, but the Grammy was for F.U.C.K., not 5150.


pointing out accurate facts isnt being a dick!
i actually wasnt sure..i thought it was 5150..actually 5150 was nominated i believe or it was their first no. 1 album or something..

..and i call my self a fan.,..what a disgrace :p

no problems here :thumb:

Well the last tour Sam and Ed did they were at each other's throat, flying on seperate planes etc.. Even the set list wasn't great.."Seventh Seal"??? c'mon man. The biggest cheers came when the DLR era songs were played. I would rather have a new album of tunes then a tour..Not 3 half ass songs and a tour...

He's got ... hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh hopes
He's got ... hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh hopes.


"and they're up in smoke..." :p

High Hopes (http://www.content.loudeye.com/scripts/hurl.exe?clipid=000665501010006900&cid=600111)

pointing out accurate facts isnt being a dick!
i actually wasnt sure..i thought it was 5150..actually 5150 was nominated i believe or it was their first no. 1 album or something..

..and i call my self a fan.,..what a disgrace :p

no problems here :thumb:

Actually, the category VH won for, Best Hard Rock Perormance with Vocal, wasn't even created until 1989. (When the first award went to Jethro Tull over Metallica).

Previous to that VH's only nomination had been for Best rock Vocal Performance, Duo or Group for Jump.

Alice Cooper does his radio show while he's on the road, so why would Dave need any time off?

CBS is already willing to give Dave a holiday? That speaks volumes. :p

Kudos to you Mr. Roth! Make it happen! You alone carry the torch of CVH. Give the fans what they want. God knows the VH's wont get off their complacent, procrastinating asses. They lack leadership.

No see right there is the problem. The do not lack leadership at all! This all comes back to the burning question...

Why should Edward, Alex and Michael allow David Lee Roth to return to a band that he once quit?

(A) Because David Lee Roth says they should.
(B) Because the fans demand it.
(C) Because they want to do it for themselves and for the fans, because they feel they have unfinished business.
(D) Because they want to relive what it was like to have a complete ego-maniac fronting the band again.

Unless the answer for the band is (C) then there is absolutely no reason for them to do it. They owe Dave nothing. If they had thrown Dave out of the band 21 years ago then maybe they might owe him a little something but remember, Dave walked out on the band. He made the mistake and like it or not Dave has to live with himself and his poor choice for the rest of his life hoping they will bring him back at some point.

Its funny that Dave talks about how screwed up everyone else is......He is in the same category as Sly Stone...

Come on Dave give me a break..............

Actually, if you listened to his show, you'd already know that he said he was equally to blame for the everything, as is the rest of the band. He said all that is so in the past and it's time to forget it and move on because life is short, and the window to do a decent reunion is even shorter.

Class dismissed!

The Sammy fans got their VH reunion, and good for them! So bring on the Classic VH reunion, and get the show on the road!

LMAO! Dude that line is from the movie "Animal House," it's a JOKE. John Belushi...one of the great comedies of all time. Check it out if you've never seen it.

One of the most over rated comedies of all time!

You know, i once had this girlfriend, when we first met it was just great. All my friends were telling me that i should settle down and marry her. They almost talked me into to it. We had a falling out and we broke up. I was sad for awhile but i felt it would have never worked between us. I was just something about her and i could not place it. My friends told me how dumb i was and how my life would be shitty because i broke it off with her. For TWO long years my friends kept tell me to get back with her. They told me the she wanted to get back with me and how much she cared for me. I wasnt mean to her to just told her we were not made to be together and i hope she would find someone new and go on with her life. Several years later she call me, FROM JAIL, asking me to help her, i went down and bailed her out. I asked her why she as in jail she said that she was a hooker and got picked up of that and they found drugs on her. well i reached into my wallet and gave her some more money and told that was it from me and left her at a bus stop. she still tries to call me to this day. but the past is the past and no mater how good it was between us years ago there is no way in hell i would ever consider getting back with that nasty bitch. i imagin Ed and Alex feel the same about dave.


Wait, was Ed the one on jail? Words, words, and more words. :)

One of the most over rated comedies of all time!

Oh, my.

One of the most over rated comedies of all time!

:scared:

Does Dave talk about anything but VH? My he must be boring 95% of his audience to death.


ya and the other 5 percent don't have ears

One of the most over rated comedies of all time!

LOL, ok.

Roth said he doesn't think the story is true because he has a "little bit of hope and faith (http://www.postchronicle.com/news/entertainment/tittletattle/article_2126967.shtml#) that there's a little bit of something left of Eddie Van Halen's pre-frontal brain lobe."

:sssh:

How much longer before Dave calls Eddie a doo doo head? :p

I'll take a summer tour with CVH anytime!!

C'mon Brett, the DLR fans want em' to get back with DLR. The Van Whatever fans are rooting for American Idol:thumb:

Seems the only people who wanted them to go on a show like that are DLR fans.

How much longer before Dave calls Eddie a doo doo head? :p

Or dry humps an EVH shirt like Hagar did? :p

C'mon Brett, the DLR fans want em' to get back with DLR. The Van Whatever fans are rooting for American Idol:thumb:

Nah.

Personally, I think Dave is 100% correct. The 2004 Sammy tour brought closure to that phase of the band as I don't think anyone wants to see that incarnation of Van Halen go through the motions again. It is clear Ed and Sam are not friends and I don't think Sammy has any desire to put up with Ed's BS.

A tour with the original lineup would do the same and could free everyone creatively.

BTW, I think Dave's show is improving dramatically. The interview with Henry Rollins was just awesome. Personally, a Roth and Rollins show would be kick ass.

Nah.

If any Roth fan is rooting for "American Idol Van Halen" it's just to have something to trip off of on a Monday night.

VH reality rock star??? that's pretty pathetic and soooooooooooooo not what rock n' roll is about:drunk:

Then why was this site the one debunking the rumors with facts, while the Army had multiple threads about it being true (beacause Dave said it was) and hoping it would come true so they could bash the band? Hain, I think there is a little selective reading going on here dude, come on.

Then why was this site the one debunking the rumors with facts, while the Army had multiple threads about it being true (beacause Dave said it was) and hoping it would come true so they could bash the band? Hain, I think there is a little selective reading going on here dude, come on.


are those people real fans or just random trolls passing through?

Not everyone gets the talking points memo in their email every morning:thumb:

Wasnt VH3 close enough to American Idol for everyone.????

I really just want an album, I could care less about a tour. Ed was embarassing up there in 2004, and that was with three great players up there with him. Dave's voice is hit and miss live, and he improvises a lot. The combination of an alcoholic Ed and an over the hill Dave is not a combo that interests me too much. But I am sure that is the road that they will take as the money is in the tour. I think there is still some magic left between Ed and Dave in the studio. But live? No thanks.

Dave is 100% correct

1. People want this reunion.
2. If Ed/Dave/Mike/whomever put out solo projects, even if it's the best work of their lives, people will still say, "Yeah, but if classic VH got back together, man, that'd be the best." Just do it, get it over with and move on
3. Ed IS a walking human train wreck. The crap that his career has become he brought upon himself.

Say what you want, but Dave is dead-on correct. And as far as Dave being washed up and Ed being the man: Who has a job with national recognition and who is sitting home and sulking every day?

People want a reunion because they dont know what they are asking for.

I would rather have a new album of tunes then a tour..Not 3 half ass songs and a tour...

Agreed. Up For Breakfast, Learning to See and It's About Time were absolute crap. In the meantime, Me Wise Magic is the best tune they've put out since Girl Gone Bad.

All we've gotten from the guys since 1998 is two damn greatest hits albums. So you've got piles and piles of unused songs, Ed? Yeah, right. Is one of them called "There's a Tear In My Beer?"

Wow, a Hank Williams cover. I'd like to hear that one.

I am wondering why people are ripping on dave though. Is it purely in defense of EVH?

Around here, yes. At VHLinks.com, it's impossible to claim that you like both Ed and Dave. It's a very weird dynamic about this place.

I do agree with one thing,however. Ive seen DLR w/ VH in its prime, 3 times. it will NEVER be like that again.

I, for one, aren't expecting that. Im also looking for closure and i really want new music. I'd trade new tunes for a CVH tour..but the tour is where the money is..i wouldnt complain either..i'd go front row for sure and just marvel at the chance of seeing them one last time, and hearing all the good songs...could you imagine that concert setlist?

Are you kidding? I dream of that setlist at night! I say just pick four or five songs off of every album starting with VH I and ending with 1984. Which brings us to...

Maybe that's ed's problem...DLR wont be singing and sammy Vh and Ed cant imagine not playing some of it...anyone agree with that thought?

I see what you're saying, but a Dave reunion show would be about just that: A celebration of those old tunes. 5150 would be out of place on that tour. Ed would know that going in to it (but Ed's so damn crabby, who knows).

Around here, yes. At VHLinks.com, it's impossible to claim that you like both Ed and Dave. It's a very weird dynamic about this place.


I don't think that's accurate. What people seem to find odd is that at the Links, Dave is not exempt from criticism. Most people are not ripping on Dave because of loyalty to Ed, they're ripping on Dave because from time to time, he deserves it. Dave's fuck-ups don't require associations or links to the past nor former band members. They stand all on their own. :)

I don't think that's accurate. What people seem to find odd is that at the Links, Dave is not exempt from criticism. Most people are not ripping on Dave because of loyalty to Ed, they're ripping on Dave because from time to time, he deserves it. Dave's fuck-ups don't require associations or links to the past nor former band members. They stand all on their own. :)

Ok, I'll give you that. From time to time, ALL the members of VH (in all its incarnations) have been real jerks...and that list absolutely includes Dave.

Hey, we agree to agree! How about that?!? :)

Ok, I'll give you that. From time to time, ALL the members of VH (in all its incarnations) have been real jerks...and that list absolutely includes Dave.

Hey, we agree to agree! How about that?!? :)

Interesting statement. Begs the question, "When has Mike been a jerk?"

Or Gary for that matter?

mike's been a jerk for not kicking the shit out of Ed and Al and getting their heads on straight. Twas I mike, i woulda done that by now and maybe they would wake the fuck up!!

No, I must admit, as many have before, it seems the only two members of Van Halen that didn't get severely wacked with the Jerk Stick at times would be Michael Anthony and Gary Cherone.

So Mikey, Gary, good on youse guys for not being blathering idiots.

The rest of you morons...you pompous megalomaniacal whiskey bottle humping, tequila pimping, lemon-wedge rubbing idgits....take a lesson. :cool:

mike's been a jerk for not kicking the shit out of Ed and Al and getting their heads on straight. Twas I mike, i woulda done that by now and maybe they would wake the fuck up!!

I see your point, but that is sort of akin to walking up to your boss and saying, "Hey shithead...you're dragging down the works!"

One of two things at that point will happen.

...you pompous megalomaniacal whiskey bottle humping, tequila pimping, lemon-wedge rubbing idgits....

Which one is AL? :confused: :p

The rest of you morons...you pompous megalomaniacal whiskey bottle humping, tequila pimping, lemon-wedge rubbing idgits....take a lesson. :cool:


You forgot Al, bud. :D

Time for a thread drift....

When listening to IAT at over 130db's in your living room......how can you say it sucks?

Ed's guitar is hogging the sound spectrum...just in your face...some heavy shit going on.

So what the lyrics are kinda cheesy, so is HFT, Jump and DTNA.

You forgot Al, bud. :D


Whoops. My bad.

Ahem.

The rest of you morons...you pompous, megalomaniacal, whiskey bottle humping, tequila pimping, lemon-wedge rubbing, polygamous wife-beating idgits....take a lesson.

;)

Whoops. My bad.

Ahem.

The rest of you morons...you pompous, megalomaniacal, whiskey bottle humping, tequila pimping, lemon-wedge rubbing, polygamous wife-beating idgits....take a lesson.

;)

:funny: fuckin ouch!

I see your point, but that is sort of akin to walking up to your boss and saying, "Hey shithead...you're dragging down the works!"

One of two things at that point will happen.



Except for one important factor..Mikey has something most of us dont have...well maybe VS does, but the rest of us..

Mikey has "FUCK YOU" money... he can afford to kick his bosses ass..
and i dont think Ed would put up much of a fight either....

Mikey has "FUCK YOU" money... he can afford to kick his bosses ass..
and i dont think Ed would put up much of a fight either....

But that also proves that Mike just wants to play. Is the money worth the bulshit? Maybe, but if he has FUCK YOU money, the only other reason to stay would be the love of the band and the music.

And, Ed doesn't seem to give a shit what Mike says, what good would it do other than getting Mike fired?

You want someone to kick Ed's ass where he MIGHT listen..... get ALEX. :cool:

You want someone to kick Ed's ass where he MIGHT listen..... get ALEX. :cool:


Bingo. Give the man a prize.

Or Wolfgang.

Other than those two, Ed's going to have to extricate head from ass all on his lonesome...just like, a majority of the time, the rest of us humans being. :p

But that also proves that Mike just wants to play. Is the money worth the bulshit? Maybe, but if he has FUCK YOU money, the only other reason to stay would be the love of the band and the music.

And, Ed doesn't seem to give a shit what Mike says, what good would it do other than getting Mike fired?

You want someone to kick Ed's ass where he MIGHT listen..... get ALEX. :cool:

You'll get no argument from me...I'd LOVE to kick Ed's ass, personally...

Bingo. Give the man a prize.

Or Wolfgang.

Other than those two, Ed's going to have to extricate head from ass all on his lonesome...just like, a majority of the time, the rest of us humans being. :p





To tell you the truth, at this point the only person who can help Ed is Ed himself. I just want to know what the actual event will be that finally sparks him to get straight. Ed has had so many events in his life that would qualify as hitting rock bottom. Let's hope it happens soon.

But that also proves that Mike just wants to play. Is the money worth the bulshit? Maybe, but if he has FUCK YOU money, the only other reason to stay would be the love of the band and the music.

True. Mikey does just want to play, and have fun with the fans.

In a way, he does sort of use his FUCK YOU money. Think about this: All the time Mike spends playing with Sam, touring with Sam...generally being his best bud, he's sending a mild "fuck you" to Ed and Alex. Not a biggie, just a little one. As in, "Yeah, I'm having a great time playing and touring with the 'enemy.' You want to fire me? Go ahead!" But they don't and he knows they won't. But it is sort of a subtle "fuck you."

I don't blame the guy, in fact I like Mikey very much. I've never met him, but every time I hear a story from a fan who has, they always rave about how friendly and personable he is.

Would you rather sit around waiting for Ed to get off of the couch or hit the road, make some music and have a great time? That's an easy choice. Go, Mikey!

But that also proves that Mike just wants to play.

I remember when Eddie usd to say "I just wanna play. I love to play..."
:(

We'll see a CVH reunion tour about as much as we'll see a Roger Waters/Pink Floyd reunion tour... :{

BTW, I think Dave's show is improving dramatically. The interview with Henry Rollins was just awesome. Personally, a Roth and Rollins show would be kick ass.


Man I am glad someone brought that up. Those two minds chatting was a awesome listen ... Henry Rollins speaking tours are awesome, it was a cool thing for Dave to have Rollins on his show. Awesome.

For all the folks that say DLR is over the hill and CVH will suck, if they did ot you'd all be right there at the show, and would enjoy it, its still Van Halen for christ sakes.

I get so sick and tired of the CVH V's the Van Hager thing, it all VAN HALEN PEOPLE! and as Dave has said life is WAY TO SHORT, so enjoy anything we can get from the MIGHTY VAN HALEN time is not on ANY of the members of Van Halens side, or mine for that matter of fact :(

Lets just celebrate what I think all of us think is one of the greatest rock bands ever to form .... and the kicker ?

We where all alive to enjoy it, not read about it or listen to it on the golden oldies radio stations.

Hey, unlike most of the other threads in this forum which are mostly bickering etc, this one was actually a good read. Just wanted to add my two cents:

This is like democrats vs republicans. No one will ever be happy or compltely agree wiht each other, so regardless of what happens with VH, there will always be this arguing going on. With taht said, however, the only thing that can happen at this point that will be the best of both worlds for us fans and the legacy of VH is for the cvh reunion. I dont think anyone here could really be against it especially if we get some new music from it. I dont think much of the public at large really cared about the reunion tour with sammy, but if dave came back, whether it sucked or not VH would have one last shot at being on top.

Also, does anyone think that part of the reason that Ed isnt down with it (among many other reasons) is that he might not be able to play those CVH tunes anymore, certainly not like he used to? I know on the 3 tour he could and did nail everything, but could you say the same about him after seeing him on this last reunion tour? He might butcher the songs, thats part of the reason I believe there was no DVD release of this tour...nonetheless, I guess im in the independent party of this dilemma, any VH is good VH for me.

Big Dainjerus, here's a link for ya...
http://www.guitars101.com/vb/van-halen-bootlegs/26462-van-halen-live-tuscon-11-19-04-a.html
You have to be a member, but check out Eddie's playing at the soundcheck. He rips through "I'm the One" just like the old days. The show, on the other hand, was a disaster. Eddie can play flawlessly when he's not hammered...unfortunately he seemed pretty messed up about 50% of the last tour. I have no doubts that he can play, though. The songs he messed up on were Sammy's, and usually his easier parts. It could very well be that he was just trying to add spice to some of the basic parts and he just doesn't know how to improvise well. I can't tell ya, but he usually played the Dave songs well.

yeah, i remember reading about the soundchecks and how eddie would fly on them, as long as he was sober. And then by the time the show came around he was so drunk he couldnt play much, and I was skeptical of it, thinking that people were just trying to hold on to the old eddie much as I was during the show. But this proves it, Ive been waiting to here a soundcheck, THANK YOU! I stand corrected he can still shred and it gives me a little more hope about the future.

I think Dave might be trying a different method to getting Eddie to clean up. I don't know what people have done in the past but it's usually with encouragement and being nice to them. Well, Dave seemed to go in the opposite direction by making fun of him and saying some not-so-nice things. I don't know if that's Dave's intention or he is trying one last time to drum up some interesting in a DLR-VH reunion or for his radio show. With Dave you never know.

As for a reunion, I'm all for it. If it gets Eddie out and seeing him on stage one more time, I'm ok with that.

Oh he can still shred alright! Don't worry!

They don't call him Shredward for nothin'!!!
:thumb:

We'll see a CVH reunion tour about as much as we'll see a Roger Waters/Pink Floyd reunion tour... :{

Well at least Waters and the rest of Floyd put aside the bullshit and jammed for a good cause during the Live8 event.

Well at least Waters and the rest of Floyd put aside the bullshit and jammed for a good cause during the Live8 event.

Which is more than we can say for VH!

I'm predicating that by late July/early August that DLR won't be needing to ask for any time off. I think by then he'll have plenty. He gets harder to listen to by the day!

so dave's had his radio show for a little over a month and how many times has he talked about wanting a VH reunion?? Seems like once a week. Has he lost all of his dignity? It's pretty clear that Ed and Al either don't want a reunion or can't do one because of Ed's health. Why beg?

Big Dainjerus, here's a link for ya...
http://www.guitars101.com/vb/van-halen-bootlegs/26462-van-halen-live-tuscon-11-19-04-a.html

Drat, I can't get these links to work! I'm a registered user at guitars101, but I can't load any of the soundcheck mp3's. Does anyone have these? I'm dying to hear a soundcheck from 2004!

Thanks!

so dave's had his radio show for a little over a month and how many times has he talked about wanting a VH reunion?? Seems like once a week. Has he lost all of his dignity? It's pretty clear that Ed and Al either don't want a reunion or can't do one because of Ed's health. Why beg?

The only Lost Dignities are the ones who won't acknowledge their fans, update their website or give you a reunion for the Songs YOU REALLY WANT TO HEAR.....

DLR is ready and willing to please the fans, acknowledges them, keeps the website up to date and reads the emails.

What else about dignity? Dave doesn't need to beg and he's not, but I'll bet you, if it happened, you'd be first in line for a ticket. or would you skip it?

Dave is sad........Down hill from 1984.............


have you seen ed ? hes not exactly looking in 1984' form! lol

he also doesnt play like it either. infact I would say hes a shell of the person he use to be. the fire has long been gone. after balance it has not been a good showing. Im not a sam fan but I did think balance was a decent musical recording.

for all the people putting dave down....

atleast dave still has the fire he did back in the day. still tries to improve his vocal ability and put on a good show for the CVH folk. he cares about the fans and thats something not anyone can say about ed and alex.

I am so tired of the sam and dave argument. I may not care for sammys vocals(which again is another debate that makes no sense, him having a better range..etc etc) has anyone here thats a sam fan ever listened to a old CVH show ? dave uses his voice , singing voice when hitting higher notes and when he wails, not scream, wails. personally I dont think either singer has much range if your talking true singing voice and ability. dave wails his higher notes and sam screams/screaches his higher notes. to me thats not range but vocal style. let it end already. not one of them has a singers voice with true vocal range.

sam has his talent in certain areas and dave has his. just let it rest. no one ever comes out on top in that argument.


and for all those who make fun of dave and how hes a different person than 1984.... well lets look at ourselves. I am not exactly the 17 year old I use to be and I am now 37! sam is not either and if anyone who is a true man actually think sam looks cool in his pjs, capris and wacky colors ala 1980's has got to be kidding me. not to mention the weight gain...etc

put it to rest. it bugs me so much. each person is different and each person gave their talent to VH the best they could. sure we all prefer a certain singer but lets let the debates and agruments rest. no one ever wins and surely no one is ever right. :brickwall

he also doesnt play like it either. infact I would say hes a shell of the person he use to be. the fire has long been gone. after balance it has not been a good showing. Im not a sam fan but I did think balance was a decent musical recording.





Say what you will that its a crappy album but Eddie's best work since 1984 was on VH3.

I saw Eddie three times on the last tour. One was bad, one average and one was like 1986.

As much as Eddie is a mess, all he has to do is get clean and practice for a month or two. He is back to old Eddie. Providing arthritis and old age does not hinder his fingers.

Dave on the other hand can no longer get back the fountain of youth because he has damage to his vocal cords from touring and discretions of his youth.

I have a feeling CBS is gonna give him a lot more than 3 months off.

Exactly.

Say what you will that its a crappy album but Eddie's best work since 1984 was on VH3.

I saw Eddie three times on the last tour. One was bad, one average and one was like 1986.

As much as Eddie is a mess, all he has to do is get clean and practice for a month or two. He is back to old Eddie. Providing arthritis and old age does not hinder his fingers.

Dave on the other hand can no longer get back the fountain of youth because he has damage to his vocal cords from touring and discretions of his youth.

Bingo! We have a winner.

Dave on the other hand can no longer get back the fountain of youth because he has damage to his vocal cords from touring and discretions of his youth.

Yeah, I wonder. On YFLM he sang IMO better than ever, supposedly because he took some singing lessons. Then with the DLR Band suddenly he is really straining on the high notes. This hasn't changed. During his radio show he sometimes sings and hits them and it sounds awful. Really, really bad and I am a huge DLR fan. Yet he claims that he can still hit them. Well technically correct, but man ... he'd rather not. I think he's deluding himself there, no wonder when his entourage goes "i love your singing"...

So I wonder if some true effort with singing lessons could do the trick again. I think his singing is probably the major obstacle to a reunion, because they brothers see themselves as "classy" musicians and don't want to play with a singer, who embarrases them.

problem is roth is trying to hit high notes he never could hit.

its that he cant do them anymore he never use to try. its been a new thing since 1996. hes trying to do what his vocals never could. the BS that he cant do them anymore makes no sense cause he never could. it sounds strange cause its not in his vocal ability. it never was in his vocal ability.

Yeah, I wonder. On YFLM he sang IMO better than ever, supposedly because he took some singing lessons. Then with the DLR Band suddenly he is really straining on the high notes. This hasn't changed. During his radio show he sometimes sings and hits them and it sounds awful. Really, really bad and I am a huge DLR fan. Yet he claims that he can still hit them. Well technically correct, but man ... he'd rather not. I think he's deluding himself there, no wonder when his entourage goes "i love your singing"...

So I wonder if some true effort with singing lessons could do the trick again. I think his singing is probably the major obstacle to a reunion, because they brothers see themselves as "classy" musicians and don't want to play with a singer, who embarrases them.

What are you smokin Dude? Are ya nutz? Okay, let's give you the benefit of the doubt in regards to DLR's voice being lower than 25 years ago (HELLO!!!) - with age and cigarette smoking does not help preserve a youthful sound, but his voice has aged like a fine wine. DLR digs the blues and can do this successfully with a lower pitch in his voice and with the bluesy rasp he has perfected. He's not trying to sing high pitch and if the notes from the old classic songs are higher than his current range...so be it. It sure as hell doesn't ruin his voice...if anything, his voice in singing the classics has more character to it. So get off your high horse about the Sisters not wanting to tour with DLR for a Reunion Concert based on a lower pitch in his voice.

Are you a Soprano?

OMG!!! :wtf:

That's the late great John Belushi from Animal House. :thumb:

Don't tell me you've never seen???


Thanks for givin him a clue Brett.


Oh sorry...seems to be very embarrassing for me now. Didn´t mean to offend you, but never heard of this movie here before.

Hey notta prob. I'm sure there are a lot of people who've never discovered this classic.

But not me any longer. Tryin´ to get the DVD here in Germany. Just curious now....

I saw the title of this thread and thought to myself... "gosh, they're giving him a lot more time off than that for a tour..."