This morning on Roth's radio show he claimed that it was his idea to stripe Eddie's guitar. He said that he stole the idea from the bass player in The Clash. He also said that the spray paint used was his and that Eddie didn't build that first guitar. His guitar tech did (can't remember his name) and that they had a name for the guitar that was other than Frankenstrat. It all went by so quick that I don't remember what the name was.

Did anyone else hear that this morning or of Roth's claims before?

Absolutely never heard of that! How come Ed's guitar TECH could have build his first guitar as Ed built it before they were signed? Or did Ed already have a guitar tech at that point in their amateur career? Seems dubious.
I mean come on "the paint can was his"...does he want Ed to pay him back for it?
It's not by appropriating everything Ed did that Dave'll be able to hope for a reunion. This is just childish and useless.

what's next?
a: Roth claims it was his idea for Ed to use "Eddie" and not Edward
b: taught "Eddie" to jump
c:
d:

LOL.. here we go... this is gonna get hilarious!!

what's next?
a: Roth claims it was his idea for Ed to use "Eddie" and not Edward
b: taught "Eddie" to jump
c:
d:

c: Told Ed/Eddie/Edward that Sam/Sammy should be his replacement


any more?

That's the dumbest thing he's said yet. I love ya Dave, but come on.

Now think about this, living with that ego day after day after day in close quarters on the road. And some may wonder why Edward would have reservations about getting back together with Roth.:rolleyes:

Even if he did make an offhand comment, "Hey Eddie, check out the Clash's guitar. How cool would that look on yours?", after this many years and all the different levels Edward has taken it past the original, how do you claim credit. Isn't that sort of what Gene Simmons does, claim credit for everything he has ever come in contact?

I would not read too much into this seemingly off-handed remark. Look, frankly age does funny things to one's perspective, as well as memory (believe me, I speak from experiance :brickwall ...I remember walking 5 miles to school in New Jersey, through the snow, up-hill both ways ;) ).

It's one thing to say stuff in a bar, quite another over airwaves when broadcasting...hell, it's the fellow's first week.

I say cut him some slack...it's only a radio show folks. :D

...craig :thumb:

I would not read too much into this seemingly off-handed remark. Look, frankly age does funny things to one's perspective, as well as memory (believe me, I speak from experiance :brickwall ...I remember walking 5 miles to school in New Jersey, through the snow, up-hill both ways ;) ).

It's one thing to say stuff in a bar, quite another over airwaves when broadcasting...hell, it's the fellow's first week.

I say cut him some slack...it's only a radio show folks. :D

...craig :thumb:

You're right Craig. I guess I wish he would just think a little before saying something like that, you know, being a bit biased about Edward.;) Especially if we can ever hope for a reunion.

Well saying that he came up with the guitar was not as bad as what he said later.

Basically said Eddie is doing crystal meth and that is the reason why they have not done a reunion. Lost out about 500 million dollars because of it.

Wow. I must have missed that part. I only listened for about 15 minutes today. Unreal.

This morning on Roth's radio show he claimed that it was his idea to stripe Eddie's guitar. He said that he stole the idea from the bass player in The Clash.


I wonder if he stole the idea of putting iced tea in his Jack Daniels bottle from the Clash also! :sssh: :cool:

I wonder if he stole the idea of putting iced tea in his Jack Daniels bottle from the Clash also! :sssh: :cool:

C'mon...everybody knows that Jimmy Page invented that trick. :D

...craig :thumb:

The only people who spray paint their Jack Daniels bottle with Ice Tea is the CLASH Bayyyybaaaayyyyyy! :wtf: :p

That's the dumbest thing he's said yet. I love ya Dave, but come on.

What he said! LOL!:rolleyes:

I vaguely remember him saying that, course I was half alsepp while listening. I was wide awake when he was talking about some 22yo guy who jumped out of a window and said that was Sammy Hagar.

Well saying that he came up with the guitar was not as bad as what he said later.

Basically said Eddie is doing crystal meth and that is the reason why they have not done a reunion. Lost out about 500 million dollars because of it.


I'm sure Eddie's really pining for a reunion now! It's all Eddie's fault, Roth taught him everything he knows and poor Dave's out millions of dollars and doing Ribfest because of Ed's crystal meth addiction. Great move, Dave. I'm sure this will bring Eddie out of the woodwork when he hears all of this. I didn't think Roth was this stupid.

Keep in mind this is day #4 of his show. By Mid February we'll be hearing from Dave that Eddie:
1. Is funding the Taliban
2. Deserved his tongue cancer
3. Sells poisoned milk to school kids

The only people who spray paint their Jack Daniels bottle with Ice Tea is the CLASH Bayyyybaaaayyyyyy! :wtf: :p

Huh? How and when would it ever dry ? :confused:

Now painting a Jack Daniels bottle with red bicycle paint over black electrical tape, then sticking cheap candles in it and letting them burn down and build up...now that's art!

Decorate your trailer, today folks!

Probably gave some idiot that lives near me an idea how to fancy-up his mailbox...No, not you Timi. I'm the one that lives in Davie . :brickwall

...craig :thumb:

e: Dave named Wolfgang...



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"Tonight's about me, man, not about your hip."

Is he talking a lot of VH in his show? I thought it was supposed to be what's happening on the front and back pages of the newspapers.

i think dave is getting carried away in the excitement a bit. I think he has a long way to go before he settles into this gig. I listen to the show from 7:30 til 10 each day. i couldnt believe he said about ed doing meth and that's why they didnt do reunions..
I think HE thinks he's gonnna get Ed to wake up and either confront him or call him on the show..and maybe ed used to react like that back in the day..but he doesnt anymore...he just goes deeper in his hole or forgets about dave even more.

We need someone to get on the air/phone with him and ask dlr some specific questions..like "Why do you think a reunion is inevitable and why do you bash ed?" or something along those lines..i'll try and email the show and see if i get a reply.

strangely, i enjoy the show.But i wonder if he's stepping into a rabbit hole he cant get out of. Can a man who has to become intimate with his audience by virtue of his new job, really go back to being the image of rock n roll, carefree and crazy after sepnding a couple yrs discussing politics and the world as he is now?
Doesnt some of the mystery/attraction of DLR get stripped away by this career move, in relation to still being a rock singer?

Love the friction baby :devil: Its even waking this place up a bit :cool:

He's certainly gettin a reaction now !!!!!!! Isn't this what you guys wanted from his show?

Looks like DLR might have to wear the ol cup again!

God wouldn't life be boring without the Van Halen Show?????????

Isn't the striping deal old news?

I thought Dave said he was the one who originally taped up Eddie's guitar years ago?

Well I certainly know what Dave DIDNT teach Eddie to do...Smile...I like dave, but damn man, he has the GOOFIEST smile on the planet!

I only listened to it for about 40 minutes on my drive but I should say that he did not directly say Eddie is on meth. I will paraphrase what he said.

He more or less said that CM is what all the celebrities are doing these days. They think they are doing coke but its coke mixed with meth. You end up holed up in your house, not being productive and being paranoid. He said it has directly affected his music career. He has been offered 1 million per show with Van Halen three different times. 3 different tours would have amounted to something like 400 million.

He then talked about in the heyday every band did coke and mentioned Van Halen.

I think he is trying to get Eddie or Alex to come on the air. I have heard rumors in the past about Eddie and meth and maybe they are true. If they are I bet everybody would wish that he was just a drunk.

We need someone to get on the air/phone with him and ask dlr some specific questions..like "Why do you think a reunion is inevitable and why do you bash ed?" or something along those lines..i'll try and email the show and see if i get a reply.

strangely, i enjoy the show.But i wonder if he's stepping into a rabbit hole he cant get out of. Can a man who has to become intimate with his audience by virtue of his new job, really go back to being the image of rock n roll, carefree and crazy after sepnding a couple yrs discussing politics and the world as he is now?
Doesnt some of the mystery/attraction of DLR get stripped away by this career move, in relation to still being a rock singer?

Agreed, someone needs to call and ask straightforward questions like you suggested.

As far as tarnishing his image, I don't know, Bono seems to do okay doing both.

He sure talks about Ed a lot, does he really think most of the audience gives a shit?

I only listened to it for about 40 minutes on my drive but I should say that he did not directly say Eddie is on meth. I will paraphrase what he said.

He more or less said that CM is what all the celebrities are doing these days. They think they are doing coke but its coke mixed with meth. You end up holed up in your house, not being productive and being paranoid. He said it has directly affected his music career. He has been offered 1 million per show with Van Halen three different times. 3 different tours would have amounted to something like 400 million.

He then talked about in the heyday every band did coke and mentioned Van Halen.

I think he is trying to get Eddie or Alex to come on the air. I have heard rumors in the past about Eddie and meth and maybe they are true. If they are I bet everybody would wish that he was just a drunk.

Nothin slanderous in that - just Dave being Dave - lets hope it creates a response, afterall this is what we all really want out of this DLR radio slot!

If an instrumental album didn't seem like a good idea earlier, it definitely does now.

Gotta love the double standard......

Mike and Sammy talk in some interviews (that probably only us nutjobs read :drunk: ) that Ed has a drinking problem and that's why the 2004 tour ended on a sour note and they get crucified for slamming Eddie in public.


(allegedly - I'm just goin off what is posted here, we don't get Dave in Chicago)
Dave goes on the radio in NY broadcast to several cities as well as the world via internet and alludes to Eddie being on Crystal Meth, screwing him out of millions of dollars, but it's laughed off as just a radio show.


Funny how that works. :)

Ed did have a guitar tech in the early days before they got signed. It was Rudy Leiren I think. I can't remember how to spell his name. If it was not him then it was somebody else but I think Dave said this morning it was Rudy. I still find that story hard to believe. I remember Ed saying in an old interview that he did the guitar himself with schwin bicycle red paint. Who knows what to believe.

Dave will be Dave

Gotta love the double standard......

Mike and Sammy talk in some interviews (that probably only us nutjobs read :drunk: ) that Ed has a drinking problem and that's why the 2004 tour ended on a sour note and they get crucified for slamming Eddie in public.


(allegedly - I'm just goin off what is posted here, we don't get Dave in Chicago)
Dave goes on the radio in NY broadcast to several cities as well as the world via internet and alludes to Eddie being on Crystal Meth, screwing him out of millions of dollars, but it's laughed off as just a radio show.


Funny how that works. :)


I think the whole Sam & Dave argument is one big double standard! :D

Gotta love the double standard......

Mike and Sammy talk in some interviews (that probably only us nutjobs read :drunk: ) that Ed has a drinking problem and that's why the 2004 tour ended on a sour note and they get crucified for slamming Eddie in public.


(allegedly - I'm just goin off what is posted here, we don't get Dave in Chicago)
Dave goes on the radio in NY broadcast to several cities as well as the world via internet and alludes to Eddie being on Crystal Meth, screwing him out of millions of dollars, but it's laughed off as just a radio show.


Funny how that works. :)


That IS damned funny. :sssh:

I wonder if he stole the idea of putting iced tea in his Jack Daniels bottle from the Clash also! :sssh: :cool:

Ouch...

If an instrumental album didn't seem like a good idea earlier, it definitely does now.

Word...

He sure talks about Ed a lot, does he really think most of the audience gives a shit?

It seems like there are some unresoved issues that DLR is crying out to have fixed. That and perhaps a combination of the same question from everyone who talks to him about a VH reunion. To Roth Van Halen is the one that got away, the big fish in his career he couldn't land. He seems to be attempting to cover his bases on the reasons why, pointing and hinting that its not all him. Placing the dots on the wall, and letting the listeners connect them.

BTW, Brett, Nice Avatar Man! :D

It seems like there are some unresoved issues that DLR is crying out to have fixed. That and perhaps a combination of the same question from everyone who talks to him about a VH reunion. To Roth Van Halen is the one that got away, the big fish in his career he couldn't land. He seems to be attempting to cover his bases on the reasons why, pointing and hinting that its not all him. Placing the dots on the wall, and letting the listeners connect them.

BTW, Brett, Nice Avatar Man! :D

He already had the fish, he let it go in '85 cus he thought there was filet mignon waiting for him solo....but it was just a cheeseburger.

If he wants a reunion, this is a terrible way of going about it IMO.

but it was just a cheeseburger.

I thought it was a hot dog and a shake.

This morning on Roth's radio show he claimed that it was his idea to stripe Eddie's guitar. He said that he stole the idea from the bass player in The Clash. He also said that the spray paint used was his and that Eddie didn't build that first guitar. His guitar tech did (can't remember his name) and that they had a name for the guitar that was other than Frankenstrat. It all went by so quick that I don't remember what the name was.

Did anyone else hear that this morning or of Roth's claims before?

Dave is funny. Eddie stated a long time ago he used bicycle spray paint to paint his guitar and used tape to paint only certain areas. The tape provided a "stripe" effect. After finishing, Ed liked the way the stripes looked on the guitar and therefore the birth of Ed's original Frankenstein was born. I'm sure Ed had no guitar tech before VH's signing.

He already had the fish, he let it go in '85 cus he thought there was filet mignon waiting for him solo....but it was just a cheeseburger.

If he wants a reunion, this is a terrible way of going about it IMO.

I agree, yet if the spotlight is your forum (rather than a well heard microphone on a stage someplace else) one goes with what one has.

I enjoy the show, yet it belongs on local or regional radio. If anything, dare I say it...purchasable radio.

It's an ok show for niche listening...the initial thrust is for those predisposed to hate it/those predisposed to love it. In a couple of weeks, the luster will be gone, and everyone goes back to their own inherrant listening habits.

I was an avid am radio fan for years, as some of the local talent we had was amazing (Phil Hendrie ring a bell?).

Little by little, it went away. Now all one hears is syndication. And it blows.

Local interests have been replaced by the by . One doesn't hear of issues concerning where one lives anymore...of local stupidities/corruption.

There is one dude here in S. Florida, named Neil Rogers...that's it.

And he moved to Canada, and does his show from there. :brickwall

I used to love the radio...currently, outside of a sporting event, it's rather pointless for me to even switch it on.

...craig :mad:

But as someone who has wondered about the Van Halen story for the past 20 years or so I hope he just keeps talkin...

Paw, when Sam and Mike spoke to the press, a lot of people believed they were still members of VH slagging of the primary member of VH. Dave, a long time ex member, who was never close to Ed, however seems to be trying to bait Eddie here into some kind of reaction. Which makes me think Ed hasn't wanted to talk with Dave prior to this. I'm now taking bets on how quickly lawyers and law suits get involved here.

Ed(ward) has bent the truth about his gear before.

Gotta love the double standard......

Mike and Sammy talk in some interviews (that probably only us nutjobs read :drunk: ) that Ed has a drinking problem and that's why the 2004 tour ended on a sour note and they get crucified for slamming Eddie in public.


(allegedly - I'm just goin off what is posted here, we don't get Dave in Chicago)
Dave goes on the radio in NY broadcast to several cities as well as the world via internet and alludes to Eddie being on Crystal Meth, screwing him out of millions of dollars, but it's laughed off as just a radio show.


Funny how that works. :)

You see, I didn't hear it either as I can't stream from work, but the way I heard it was the DAVE mentioned NO ONE specifically. He said the drug brought the band down, but implied that in fact it wasn't Eddie, just other member(s). If someone could tell me what hour it was in, I'd edit down to that comment and make it available...

It's been said that DAVE stated they were offered $1 million per show with a new album, and he assumed that with several tours, that they would have played numerous gigs.

Absolutely never heard of that! How come Ed's guitar TECH could have build his first guitar as Ed built it before they were signed? Or did Ed already have a guitar tech at that point in their amateur career? Seems dubious.
I mean come on "the paint can was his"...does he want Ed to pay him back for it?
It's not by appropriating everything Ed did that Dave'll be able to hope for a reunion. This is just childish and useless.


Actually yes, ok FIRST i'm am NOT a ROTHTARD now a sammy man, i'm a VAN HALEN fan, but yes I remember an old interview in which Dave did say back then that he did "give" eddie the idea for the race stripes on the guitar, now the paint can... remember dave came from money and Ed didnt so Dave "may" have actually bought the paint who knows on that one,, and YES Robin "rude" Leiren was Ed's tech even BEFORE they signed, in a guitar 85 mag interview with Leiren he stated that he was Ed's tech around 74 or so BEFORE dave joined even. And just for the facts.. it was leiren who got the "reunion" back in 96 going, in a radio interview Ed himself said that his sometimes tech was having golf with him and said oh by the way Roth wants you to call him, and Ed said he's got my number tell him to call ME, and he did. Also remember it was Roth's idea to call the band Van Halen as well... I know Dave is Dave but he and Al basicaly were the minds in the early days, Ed was the music. NOt to start shit here just stating interview "facts" anyone else?

Come on Dave, Gimme a break...

Gotta love the double standard......

Mike and Sammy talk in some interviews (that probably only us nutjobs read :drunk: ) that Ed has a drinking problem and that's why the 2004 tour ended on a sour note and they get crucified for slamming Eddie in public.


(allegedly - I'm just goin off what is posted here, we don't get Dave in Chicago)
Dave goes on the radio in NY broadcast to several cities as well as the world via internet and alludes to Eddie being on Crystal Meth, screwing him out of millions of dollars, but it's laughed off as just a radio show.


Funny how that works. :)

But not surprising. After all we are talking about the followers of the Apostle Dave Roth. He walks on water to the studio ya know...

There would be a contract out on Sammy by now if he had said any of this.

You see, I didn't hear it either as I can't stream from work, but the way I heard it was the DAVE mentioned NO ONE specifically. He said the drug brought the band down, but implied that in fact it wasn't Eddie, just other member(s). If someone could tell me what hour it was in, I'd edit down to that comment and make it available...

It's been said that DAVE stated they were offered $1 million per show with a new album, and he assumed that with several tours, that they would have played numerous gigs.

I can tell you it was played sometime between 8:30 - 9:00 am EST on Friday.

Concerning the Sam ragging on Eddie vs Dave. I don't like either. I did not like it when Alex went to press saying that Dave is on meds.

You don't air your dirty laundry in public. However one thing I find funny is that Sam and Mike say Ed is a drunk. Meanwhile Dave says he is on meth. What is worse, Smoking Loon or drugs?

I can tell you it was played sometime between 8:30 - 9:00 am EST on Friday.

Concerning the Sam ragging on Eddie vs Dave. I don't like either. I did not like it when Alex went to press saying that Dave is on meds.

You don't air your dirty laundry in public. However one thing I find funny is that Sam and Mike say Ed is a drunk. Meanwhile Dave says he is on meth. What is worse, Smoking Loon or drugs?

Thanks for the 411 (not 420) Uhuhuhuhuhuh! BTW, it seems the tenor of today's show, from what I heard of it today, was ANTI-DRUG...

Roth basically said there were too many drugs being consumed today, not recreationally on the "weekends" or in a "movie" but by addicts to get through everyday life...

Here's a link to DAVE's comments: DAVE on VH (http://files.filefront.com/DaveOn_VanHalenmp3/;4574090;;/fileinfo.html).

well there ya go...

that would explain the playing on the last tour...

the guy has played drunk all his life and was a virtouso.. i kind of figured something had changed there.

icky.

well there ya go...

that would explain the playing on the last tour...

the guy has played drunk all his life and was a virtouso.. i kind of figured something had changed there.

icky.

Finally Heard it.

Ya, it's Ed he's talking about....this sucks.

Edited to add:
thanks for providing the clip.

d: Told Valerie Bertinelli to join the cast of One Day At A Time.

And yet another

e: Told Eddie that boiling his strings was the only way to get what Dave calls, a "brown sound".

Furthermore.....isnt "Diamond Scalp Dave", (or DsD as I refer to him) under contract.........A VH reunion with Dave "Shiney Scalp" Roth having to be up for work at 330am??!!....... I can see it now! 'Goodnight folks no encore tonight, Daves' gotta be up for work in a couple of hours ........'

Paw, when Sam and Mike spoke to the press, a lot of people believed they were still members of VH slagging of the primary member of VH. Dave, a long time ex member, who was never close to Ed, however seems to be trying to bait Eddie here into some kind of reaction. Which makes me think Ed hasn't wanted to talk with Dave prior to this. I'm now taking bets on how quickly lawyers and law suits get involved here.


If Lawyers and Lawsuits start that's just gonna be pathetic, maybe even funny. I'm starting to thinks everyone in this band would do good to just not speak in public for like five years. Americans forget. They might not seem like ass holes when they come back

Finally Heard it.

Ya, it's Ed he's talking about....this sucks.

Edited to add:
thanks for providing the clip.

After listening to the clip it's blatently obvious who he's talking about. This has all the signs of turning ugly.

That's very uncool of Dave to make such implications. I have no more respect for his doing it then I did for Sammy.

Anyone still think the reunion is "inevitable?"

I'm willing to bet that this isn't Ed Dave's talking about. It's Ed's evil twin brother, "Tweaky" Van Halen who is ruining the reunion...oh that Tweaky, such a rapscallion.

You know, it probably went down like this:

Dave: Fuck man, you should paint your guitar like that dude in the Clash.

Ed: Whatever.

Then a few weeks later:

Ed - thinking to himself : Oh what the fuck? Lets slap some stripes on this thing. [ 25 minutes and 4 Schitz tall-boys later] Hey, this looks cool.

The next practice session:

Ed: Hey Dave, check out the paint job, just like the guy in the Clash!

Dave: Huh? Yeah cool, whatever.


Also, we'd have heard from this mythical tech by now, unless he's dead.

I don't buy the Crystal Meth story.
If EVH was really under that kind of addiction during the last few years, we would've heard more "oh poor Ed, oh we need to help Ed" from Mikey and Sammy at least. I don't see Sam hitting a cardboard EVH onstage if Ed was suffering from Crystal Meth additction. Same with various comments made by Mike and his entourage.
So if DLR is slandering EVH calling him a Crystal Meth addict then it's erven worse, in a way.

I don't see how the reunion would be inevitable. RNRHOF maybe... and even that's a long shot.

It just seems everything gets worse and worse in this saga...

Well,
correct me if I am wrong but Rudy Leiren was Eds first guitar tech. He knew the brothers from back in the pasadena days and he stuck with them.
Rudy should be the one Dave was talking about.
My friend Richard Armstrong from Vancouver knows rudy real well and talks to him all the time. I should ask him to talk to him about this one.
See what rudy says about it.
Rob

Passive aggressive comments like 'alcoholic baby millionare musicians' will not lead to an inevitable reunion, methinks. :irked:

If a million dollars a show (as Dave elluded to on the air today) won't bring humty dumty back together again, then a little poke in the eye verbage isn't going to break the camels back ;)

First it is lame when Dave or Sammy or Mike back bite through the press. The brothers too. They all never seem to address this shit privately because they all bad mouth first then say they haven't spoken to each other by phone or in person in months. The same officers from the Sammy hagar police who are crying foul should recall what they say when Sammy speaks. It is always gospel. When he said Eddie was drunk alot remained quiet or ones who said Sammy is saying it so it must be true. The Redheads only chimed in when their boy was being dissed by Davesters. Or Whatver the phrases are for Dave and Sam loyalists. I am not a Dave apologist or a Sam apologist. Just because Dave is egotistical doesn't make every single word he says a lie either. Same for Sammy. They both have versions of what went as do the bros. I think for both singers' stories it falls somewhere in the middle.

alot of the same issues Sam has with the VH bros are similar to what Dave has said as well over the years. I can't imagine why people here would be arguing virtually over the same thing both guys are saying. Sammy has come back before after lying for Ed about being clean to retract what he said later when times were bad. Just as Dave has. They both have lied saying the magic was there then saying that Eddie was at fault when it blows up. Neither guy is making a good case for themselves returning to the band at this point if all this is true that both Sam/Dave have said. And I know as long as the world spins round VH will have drama. And we will argue about it here.

"...among the most evil of men..."--Memphis Slim, referring to Robert Johnson.:devil:

ed would look much worse if he was on crystal meth

way worse

Actually, for a reunion to really work, the money ain't gonna be the primary motivator, not for sustaining a world wide blitz, anyway.

We all saw how a half-assed business-only revival worked in '04. A similar situation with Dave would only result in lackluster performances and bad audience vibes, no matter if it's five million a gig or five bucks.

If the guys aren't grooving on each other, it's going to come through the music - LIVE, that is. And sure, Ed and the singer of the year being a bit on edge with each other creatively in the studio works wonders, as evidenced by Fair Warning, Balance, Humans Being, Me Wise Magic, etc.

But to really make that razzle dazzle happen on tour....They gotta make nicey nice.

Well I guess we can all look on the brightside. None of this really matters because in the end, we all die. :cool:

Wait, that's not cool.....

:sigh:

Well I guess we can all look on the brightside. None of this really matters because in the end, we all die. :cool:



Don't be so sure. In the next world, the Moon-Bonham / Hendrix-Rhoades / Presley-Sinatra wars continue blazing. :cool:

I just wonder what DLR thinks (that might not be the appropriate word though) when he declares VH's gonna reunite and then two days later literally trashes Eddie.
Not clever.

bah as they say talk is cheap.. and the only thing that will bring back the reunion is the $$$$$$$$$$$.. and that will only happen when ed/al need more cash

F: Tell Sammy to wear a cup

Where can i hear him mention this on his show without having to sit through the whole thing or search for it?

You do gotta wonder though, how Eddie got so emaciated looking.You dont get skinny from drinking, even wine.Ive seen people go down on this drug (my own brother included), and Eddie didnt look that much different.

You do gotta wonder though, how Eddie got so emaciated looking.You dont get skinny from drinking, even wine.Ive seen people go down on this drug (my own brother included), and Eddie didnt look that much different.

That's what I've been thinking....Once you think about it Meth use makes sense. Ed's appearance has changed, and he is one cukoo bird....He's just plain odd. Why?

Booze, genetics, meth, combo of all? Is it any of our business...I guess not, but since it was one of Dave's talking points...I believe we have the right to talk about it.

Here's another thing...why would Dave make that up? That's the most scary thing of all I think. That kind of talk isn't going to amp up reunion talk.

Geez...I hope it ain't true. Meth? Shhhheeeeesh.

You do gotta wonder though, how Eddie got so emaciated looking.You dont get skinny from drinking, even wine.Ive seen people go down on this drug (my own brother included), and Eddie didnt look that much different.



The strange thing is, Ed's looks change constantly. Sometimes he looks happy and healthy, other times he looks thin and sick !

I don't know for a fact, but I would assume he's gone through chemo, which will zap your appetite and make your appearence change. I'm also sure alot of late nights in 5150 drinking wine and not eating anything will take it's toll too !
The guy has just lived the life, he's the poster child for the dangers of rock n' roll excess! Eddie has hung on, while some of his peers in similar situations have passed on early.

The only thing that really suprises me about him anymore is his apparent lack of musical motivation, there was a time when I was confident that he would make music, on whatever level, until the day he died. Now I think differently.

The sad thing is, if Ed had dropped dead after 1984, he'd now be getting the props he deserves and the legendary status afforded to those who burn out fast instead of growing old and showcasing human frailty.

Ha, come on, Edward looks good for someone who went through cancer. Just look at the 2004 pics, he's shirtless on most of them and you can tell he has almsot the body of an athlete. Can't you name a lot of people around you who looks as good at almost 50?
At least, to me, he looks pretty good for a meth-head.

Don't have the time to read through all of this.

However, I listened to Dave's segment and it makes sense. No slams, as if I give a shit anyway.

If the "stripes" are soooooo holy, please and I beg y'all have Ed DISPROVE it? Otherwise, shut up and enjoy yourselves. :)

Don't have the time to read through all of this.

However, I listened to Dave's segment and it makes sense. No slams, as if I give a shit anyway.

If the "stripes" are soooooo holy, please and I beg y'all have Ed DISPROVE it? Otherwise, shut up and enjoy yourselves. :)

You're right about the stripes, but it was his comment alluding to Ed being on Crystal Meth that kinda ruffled a few feathers.

Please, and I beg you to have Dave PROVE IT.

Otherwise shut up and smile. :)

Things keep going the way they are and it seems to me the mutual lawyers will be doing the proving... at least we have something to discuss here in VanHalenland.

ed would look much worse if he was on crystal meth

way worse


At Ed's income level, he's getting pharmaceutical grade amphetmine... Very, very, very clean stuff...

And most of what you see when you look at a meth head on the street comes from the quality of the life they're leading to stay high...

He doesn't have to worry about that.

And there's always assistants to make sure he showers every couple of days.

Dude, this isnt like heroin, where if your rich you can maintain a functional life.Meth is the kind of drug that lasts for DAYS on on hit, it doesnt stop, whether you want it to or not.You will NOT be able to sleep for several days, that is the first hit to the body.Then you will dvelop paranoia, and if youre inside, you will stay inside for the duration of the high. If you get pure grade the effects will be much worse, not better.The problem with this drug IS THE DRUG, not the price to maintain the habit. You can stay high for 3 days on a ten dollar hit. Its just a bad,bad, drug, the absolute worst, and there is no "clean" version of it.

Dude, this isnt like heroin, where if your rich you can maintain a functional life.Meth is the kind of drug that lasts for DAYS on on hit, it doesnt stop, whether you want it to or not.You will NOT be able to sleep for several days, that is the first hit to the body.Then you will dvelop paranoia, and if youre inside, you will stay inside for the duration of the high. If you get pure grade the effects will be much worse, not better.The problem with this drug IS THE DRUG, not the price to maintain the habit. You can stay high for 3 days on a ten dollar hit. Its just a bad,bad, drug, the absolute worst, and there is no "clean" version of it.


we're not arguing about that...

all i'm saying is that he wouldn't necessarily look like he had leprosy from doing it.

this thread is fucking pointless, even more now than at the beginning

*petitioning to close

You're right about the stripes, but it was his comment alluding to Ed being on Crystal Meth that kinda ruffled a few feathers.

Please, and I beg you to have Dave PROVE IT.

Otherwise shut up and smile. :)


I'm always smilin' my brother, see? ---> :D

However, the "meth" segment was more sympathetic and not a slam if you actually listened to it.

Whatever, y'all fellas keep on rainin' and Dave will still be the parade. :)

However, the "meth" segment was more sympathetic and not a slam if you actually listened to it.




I did listen to it. It was (sym) pathetic until he cried about supposedly losing millions of dollars because of it. Wahhh poor Dave. How about some proof, or can we just throw out accusations that serious on a whim?

IMO, Dave's not winning any points slammin on the brothers anymore than Sam did when he took digs at Ed.

Then again, maybe he knows that the gig is doomed from the start and wants to get in as many on-air digs on the boys as possible. Who knows.

this thread is fucking pointless, even more now than at the beginning

*petitioning to close

LOL....it makes for some cheap entertainment on a Sunday night though http://www.vhlinks.com/vbforums/images/icons/icon10.gif

I did listen to it. It was (sym) pathetic until he cried about supposedly losing millions of dollars because of it. Wahhh poor Dave. How about some proof, or can we just throw out accusations that serious on a whim?

IMO, Dave's not winning any points slammin on the brothers anymore than Sam did when he took digs at Ed.

Then again, maybe he knows that the gig is doomed from the start and wants to get in as many on-air digs on the boys as possible. Who knows.

I, unlike everone else do not believe that Dave's entire life revolves around a Van Halen reunion. If it happens, great but Dave lives life a bit too much on his own.

I'm not accusing you of this Paw but it seems like so many folks on heeya seem to think that the possibility consumes Dave. Well, it doesn't.

I don't blame Dave one bit venting a bit on huge financial opportunities that could've been made if in fact they weren't due to the fact that a certain guitarist couldn't put down the crack pipe for a cupla hours.

The world's been waiting for a loooooooooooooong time and Ed just seems to be further spiraling into seclusion and insanity. Nothing productive whatsoever. Heck, if those last three songs are any indication of his current writing ability, I say commit him and now.

Shit, even your boy Hagar implied many of the same thoughts about Ed himself.

I don't blame Dave one bit venting a bit on huge financial opportunities that could've been made if in fact they weren't due to the fact that a certain guitarist couldn't put down the crack pipe for a cupla hours.



So potentially, how many millions did the vh bros lose when Dave quit? Dave's "Crack pipe" is his ridiculous ego. No difference.

As far as being consumed with a CVH reunion, well Dave's the one who mentioned the inevitablity of a reunion with Van Halen in that interview to create hype for his show, not us or the VH brothers. Most people assumed a reunion is out the window since he took the radio gig.

So potentially, how many millions did the vh bros lose when Dave quit? Dave's "Crack pipe" is his ridiculous ego. No difference.

As far as being consumed with a CVH reunion, well Dave's the one who mentioned the inevitablity of a reunion with Van Halen in that interview to create hype for his show, not us or the VH brothers. Most people assumed a reunion is out the window since he took the radio gig.

Oh yes, it's ALWAYS Big Bad Dave's fault... :rolleyes:

Crap and here we go again...

Yes, the only forseeable reason Dave even took this radio gig was so he could get the brothers attention. *yawn*

I suppose he became an EMT and did all of the volunteer work so he could prove to the VH camp that he could recessitate Ed after the inevidable overdose whilst touring, no? Yeah, Dave also obtained a helecopter license ONLY so he could also lifeflight Ed to the hospital. He lives for those brothers approval, you know? ;)

Hey, why are you complaining about Dave's "ego" anyways? I mean you got all of your number one albums right? :p

Also, several power ballads that will live on forever too.

Oh yes, it's ALWAYS Big Bad Dave's fault... :rolleyes:

Crap and here we go again...

Yes, the only forseeable reason Dave even took this radio gig was so he could get the brothers attention. *yawn*

I suppose he became an EMT and did all of the volunteer work so he could prove to the VH camp that he could recessitate Ed after the inevidable overdose whilst touring, no? Yeah, Dave also obtained a helecopter license ONLY so he could also lifeflight Ed to the hospital. He lives for those brothers approval, you know? ;)



Crap and here we go again... Oh yes, Dave can do no wrong....:rolleyes: :)

Um, not sure how you came up with all of that? :wtf:

Never once did I say he took a radio gig to get the brother's attention, I said that it's pretty obvious that he mentioned the "inevitable" CVH reunion in an interview to cause a stir for his new show. How you came to that silly conclusion is a mystery.

No sweat bro, take care and enjoy Dave's show :cool:

Crap and here we go again... Oh yes, Dave can do no wrong....:rolleyes: :)

Um, not sure how you came up with all of that? :wtf:

Never once did I say he took a radio gig to get the brother's attention, I said that it's pretty obvious that he mentioned the "inevitable" CVH reunion in an interview to cause a stir for his new show. How you came to that silly conclusion is a mystery.

No sweat bro, take care and enjoy Dave's show :cool:

We'll always be cool Paw. :cool:

Keep in mind that a lot of the time I vent or go on a rant, it's not directed at you personally. It's just you give me the platform sometimes. ;)

Anyway, I've NEVER claimed Dave's Mr. Innocent at all and neither has he. All I can say is from witnessing the brothers behavior over the years, they aren't the poor victims everytime it comes to Dave or Sammy Hagar for that matter.

nah, he's smokin' crack!

If Dave in fact took a shot at Ed re:drug use, just chalk it up to one of the many times this has been done by all parties. I seem to remember Ed & Al bitching about Dave being "wasted" at the US Fest. Ed bitched on MVT in 96' after the awards show about Dave being stoned. This is like having dinner w/ the in laws. We all love to bitch about each other. Just the fact that we are giving these guys so much "Free Press" is kind of sad. WE love the band that won't love us back!!!!!!!!! Personally, I'm tired of enabling this bullshit.
"hey VH, thanks for the memories, call me when you GROW up and get it together. "

I would like to believe that Dave would not imply such a thing unless it was true. Perhaps he thinks it will draw Edward out to make a comment or maybe get some help. It would also go a long way towards explaining Valerie throwing in the towel. I mean, look at Sharon Osbourne and how she has stuck by Ozzy all these years. It also might explain the possible riff between Alex and Edward. Who knows......

As far as body fat, depending on your metabolism, you can be a skinny drunk. Not everyone has the beer belly. As a matter of fact, it's probably 50/50 since so many people who drink don't want to eat.

It deeply saddens me to think this is true. So much potential with that talent. I guess it's a blessing and a curse for Edward or maybe it's something that no one but him is even aware of that drives this behavior.:(

ed would look much worse if he was on crystal meth

way worse

How much worse? He looks like the crypt keeper, teeth are balck and disgusting, and his personality has changed a great deal in a very short time. These are well known side effects of Meth abuse. I've seen it on the faces of more than one student of mine. Meth usage and production labs are becoming a huge problem in rural upstate, New York where I am from. I've seen the effects first hand. I hope like hell Ed ain't cooking this crap. I've always thought his strange behavior was due to all the coke and alcohol abuse catching up with him. The meth makes even more sense.

And regarding the chemo thing, while I have no personal experience to add, my girlfriend of eight years had six months of very toxic chemo and a few months of radiation on top of that for breast cancer about 7 years ago. My sister just finished nearly the same thing. While every one reactes differently, Chemo does not change your personality or body they way Ed's has changed. If anything my girlfriend and sister had a new lease on life, and live every day for what it is. Maybe Ed just realized traveling around the country playing those shitty Hagar tunes he was bored playing in 1995 just isn't all that important anymore. Same goes for doing it with a certain ego maniac with the last name of Roth. I just hope it was a life changing experience (cancer) that made him decide it, and not meth.

ed is a raging alcoholic- that is enough to change your demeanor and appearance. i've talked to alchoholics who from a distance look normal- like ed. the when u get up close, their teeth are shot, they look like shit, etc. ed smokes like a mofo too. now all of a sudden it's gospel ed is a meth-head cuz dave said so :rolleyes:

whatever people

dave is his own worst enemy, along with the same for ed

dave is his own worst enemy, along with the same for ed

That pretty much sums it up. :thumb:

i mean- ed is a meth-head and makes pornos...actually, ed is really snoop dog, u didn't know?

just like michael jackson is really janet jackson

ed is a raging alcoholic- that is enough to change your demeanor and appearance. i've talked to alchoholics who from a distance look normal- like ed. the when u get up close, their teeth are shot, they look like shit, etc. ed smokes like a mofo too. now all of a sudden it's gospel ed is a meth-head cuz dave said so :rolleyes:

whatever people

dave is his own worst enemy, along with the same for ed

We know Ed likes his booze, his cigarettes, and has blown plenty of Coke up his nose. Why is the possibility that might also use meth out of the realm of possibility? Yes, JMJ, I agree, Dave is a shit for talking about it on the radio, but that doesn't change the fact that he could be or has abused it. I'm not saying it's gospel, just feasable.

This morning on Roth's radio show he claimed that it was his idea to stripe Eddie's guitar. He said that he stole the idea from the bass player in The Clash.

Paul Simonon's bass...
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All of the few (srambled) eggs Dave has left are in the proverbial"Van Halen reunion basket"

The reunion gig is all Dave has left to be in the "relevant" spotilight again.

Too bad he blew it by quitting in 85

In the immortal words of Nelson from the Simpsons:
Ha Ha!!

Ed(ward) has bent the truth about his gear before.

'Bent'

I think saying for years that you used no effects at all is more than bending the truth.

A lot of people seem upset about some shitty lines on a homemade guitar here.

I ask again, Roth is a crazy asshole but show me some examples of lies because any Van Halen fan can quote 20/30 Eddie lies...

All of the few (srambled) eggs Dave has left are in the proverbial"Van Halen reunion basket"

The reunion gig is all Dave has left to be in the "relevant" spotilight again.

Too bad he blew it by quitting in 85

In the immortal words of Nelson from the Simpsons:
Ha Ha!!

"Ha Ha!!" 'tis absolutely right when your "proud" analogy comes from a fuckin' cartoon. :rolleyes:

As long as you sit there and are content laughing at your own "jokes" of posts, then more power to you. :)

How about some "immortal" words from Maximus?

BLOW ME!!! :D

BTW, Dave invented the internet you dumbfucks, not Al Gore!


:D