OK---try this one----I posted it when VH 101 was just a thread, but got no replies. According to Eddie, what does Al's snare drum say?

Al's snare drum says:

IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR ME TO BE KNOWN AS EDDIE'S BROTHER WHEN I'M THE OLDEST

ha ha ha!

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Nooooo.....but nice try.http://www.vhlinks.com/vhlforum/smilies/smile.gif

C'mon, nobody knows, not even Brett?!!

What, is this a quiz show now? your killing me, cause your not even on line now to give the answer toonk! I totally give, what does it say? (cool tidbithttp://www.vhlinks.com/vhlforum/smilies/cool.gif)

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TOONK, why are you punishing us like this.http://www.vhlinks.com/vhlforum/smilies/smile.gif

I don't know, but Eddie said it sounded like he was beating on a log. http://www.vhlinks.com/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gif

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Aww, man! I'd love ta tell ya, seeenbaaad, but I want someone to get it first! (If you e-mail me, I'll tell ya!)

C'mon Dave's!!! Don't anybody know this one?

HINT: Eddie said, and I quote,"I want my guitar to souhnd like Al's snare. It goes......(BLANK)"http://www.vhlinks.com/vhlforum/smilies/cool.gif

one email...comin' uphttp://www.vhlinks.com/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gif

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sheepa latta peepah dabba looka foh a YUUNNK!!

Heh-heh, ya know ya love it, Glenn!http://www.vhlinks.com/vhlforum/smilies/smile.gifI can't believe Brett don't know! Man!

Okay, hint number 2: You can find the answer in J.D. Considines book VAN HALEN!

Good luck!!!!

Glenn, you know but you don't know that you know!!!!

Hee, hee, ha, ha, "TOONK" told me. I say again "TOONK", thats "TOONK", told me!http://www.vhlinks.com/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gif

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It says toonk? What the fuck? If I read that hint correctly, then I learned two things today. Out fucking standing! Out.

[This message has been edited by track 5 (edited April 29, 2000 at 02:31 PM).]

Can I assume that the answer is TOONK? If so, that's a cool piece of trivia. When did Ed make this statement? Damn, I'm getting an education today.http://www.vhlinks.com/vhlforum/smilies/smile.gif

OK-----here's the dilly: I just checked back in J.D. Considine's book to find the exact page and shit of that quote, but couldn't find it. HOWEVER, I'm absolutely positive that this is a FACT. My brother and I talk about all the time, running around like two idiots, going "Toonk! Toonk! Toonk!" http://www.vhlinks.com/vhlforum/smilies/smile.gif I'll try and figure out just where I read it so I can substantiate my claim, although Ed claimed that Alex's "toonk" was the inspiration for his "brown sound." BTW, TOONK is pronounced like LOOK with an NK sound on the end.

OK-----# 2 Big Al question: Specifically, what changes did alex make to his kit prior to the Diver Down tour, one of which was kept until FUCK???

http://www.vhlinks.com/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gifhttp://www.vhlinks.com/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gifTOONK-YUNNNK!!!http://www.vhlinks.com/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gifhttp://www.vhlinks.com/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gif

Shot in the dark here. His electric drums? I know he had them on the DD tour,the 84 album and tour, 5150, and the ou812 tour. I had to try and remember the ou812 tour. Both time I saw it, it was during the MOR summer thing. I don't remember a whole hell of alot of those shows.lol. Out.

Yes, very good, track 5!

I can't think up another AVH question right now, so I'll go with a different topic:

What three specific "new ideas" appeared on electric guitars/amps as a direct result of Ed's influence? (Two on the guitar, one on the amp.)

http://www.vhlinks.com/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gifhttp://www.vhlinks.com/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gifTOONK_YUNNNKhttp://www.vhlinks.com/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gifhttp://www.vhlinks.com/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gif

Well on guitar, I know Ed was the first person I ever saw with one pickup and one volume. He's also the first person to ever use a Floyd Rose, besides of course Floyd Rose. http://www.vhlinks.com/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gif Amplifiers are a different story because they are basically made the same way they have always been made since the sixties. A 5150 ain't much different than any other amp as far as design goes. If you're talking about using a Variac, well that still isn't something that has really just set the world on fire. These Hot Plates and Power Brakes are totally different than a Variac, and you can attribute them to Tom Sholtz, not EVH.

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how about the d-tuna!! That has to be it.


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Floyd Rose, definitely, that would be one. And I was looking for something more specific with the pick-up positioning. And BROWNSOUND, perhaps you know more about this than I do, but thought amps are made with a difference in the GAIN features, or, uh, something......I dunno----I'm just a drummer!

Q: What are the worst six years of a drummers' life?

Yes, absolutely Rick. I was also looking for the angled positioning of said humbucker, but good enough.

ROCK ON, HALEN-HEADS!!!!!!

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Does anyone know what happened to the little stuffed rabbit that Alex had tied to his drums in the early days? It used to hang off the front of the toms, or off the side of the bass drum.

ok here goes ..ed was the first to put a humbucker in the bridge position of a strat shape guitar....he also came up with the idea of a rear routed strat shape guitar....

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actually he had to angle his pick up because it was a gibson humbucker and their pole peices didnt line up with the string spacing on the fender vibrato bridge..the spacing on a gibson tune o matic bridge is smaller..he angled it so that at least some of the pole screws would line up with the strings...this was true also when he put the floyd on it......which is why today humbuckers either come in regular or "f" (floyd rose) spaced pole peices....

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I hate to break this to you guys, but Ed was not the first to slap a humbucker in a Strat. Other guys did it before Ed, like Allan Holdsworth. The angled thing was, like someone stated, a result of a PAF spacing being different than a Fender. However, if you notice on his 5150 guitar the pickup is straight, as are the Ernie Balls, and the Wolfgangs.
As far as the amplifier thing goes, he did cause a lot of guys to get hot rodded amps, but the funny thing is after years of Edward saying his Marshall was modified, he finally fessed up and said that he didn't do anything to it except put the Variac on it. The only mods were to amps OTHER than the Numero Uno amp, and that was to get them sounding like his main one. As far as actual changes in design, the only thing I can think of is the 5150 has 5 preamp tubes, whereas his Marshall, and most other old Marshalls, have 3 preamp tubes.
I'm not saying Ed didn't influence equipment because he most definately did. However, with the exception of being the first with the one pickup/one volume, the Floyd Rose, and using a Variac, he used stock equipment.

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"I won't go down in history, but I will go down on your sister!"...David Lee Roth

How about screwing his pickups directly into the wood instead of suspending them? You didn't really hear of that until HE did it. Now I know that Ernie Ball does it, and of course Peavey, but Ed Roman builds guitars that way and I'd be willing to bet that EVH is the sole reason he did it in the first place. What do you think?

- KH

Strangely enough, my tech.(who builds incredible guitars) told me that screwing the pickups down to the body does absolutely nothing for the sound. Because pickups work on a different principal, having them fastened down doesn't do anything. He showed me guitars which I tried with the pickups fastened to the body, and those fastened to a pickgaurd, and I couldn't tell the diff.
Apparently it's Ed's preference, and has caught on because of that. All the pickups on my guitars are fastened to the body as well though, so I can only go by what I'm told.

Well pickups do pickup vibrations from other things than strings. Mounting them to the body does allow them to pickup the vibrations of the wood, but the main thing is they keep you from getting microphonic feedback too. If pickups float they are more apt to squeel at loud volumes, even if they are potted. As far as Ernie Ball and Peavey doing it, well they have both made Ed's signature models, and that is what he requested. I guess Ernie Ball saw some merits in mounting pickups this way.

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BrownSound, you could be right. When I made the comparison the volume was quite low, around 2. The only time I crank it is in the studio, and all my guitars there, EBMM, and wolf both have the pickups screwed in, so I've never really checked under live conditions.