Like Boston selling Babe Ruth...Or, more recently, under worst moves...The Cavs firing Paul Silas.

Best:

Rasheed Wallace to the Pistons

More?

Um...team moves - Bengals and Jets drafting Eddie Brown and Al Toon...before Jerry Rice.

Lindros trade from Quebec to the Flyers.

In exchange for Lindros, the Nordiques received Peter Forsberg, Steve Duschene, Kerry Huffman, Mike Ricci, Ron Hextall, Chris Simon, Philly’s first-round pick in 1993 and 1994, and $15 million in cash, just to make sure the deal was even. :(

The Hershel Walker deal,enough said.

Red Sox trade Bill Lee to the Expos for Stan Papi! :D

Red Sox trade Sparky Lyle to the Yankees for Danny Cater and a player-to-be-named-later (Mario Guerrero)

Phillies trade Manny Trillo, George Vukovich, Jay Baller, Julio Franco & Jerry Willard to the Indians for Von Hayes

Green Bay Packers draft Tony Mandarich!

Lindros trade from Quebec to the Flyers.

In exchange for Lindros, the Nordiques received Peter Forsberg, Steve Duschene, Kerry Huffman, Mike Ricci, Ron Hextall, Chris Simon, Philly’s first-round pick in 1993 and 1994, and $15 million in cash, just to make sure the deal was even. :(
BAMM! :thumb:

Detroit Tigers singing Magglio Ordonez to a 5-year 75 millon dollar contract. He's a fuckin lemon.

Oh, and the Payrod deal with Texas 250 million over 10 years.

One thing is for sure, I want Scott Boras negotiating for my next annual review.

Good topic. :thumb:

Off the top of my head, in no particular order, here are some of the best/worst depending on which side you're on - Boston trading Bagwell for Larry Anderson; Detroit trading John Smoltz for Doyle Alexander; LA trading Shaq for a collection of stiffs; Portland picking Sam Bowie over Michael Jordan; whoever it was who traded Frank Robinson to the Orioles; Colorado's contracts to Mike Hampton and the other pitcher whose name escapes me but who just had the last year of his deal voided for consorting with a prostitute; Rangers signing Chan Ho Park; Dodgers signing Darren Dreifort; Angels signing Vlad (obviously a good deal); Yankees' contract for Jeter (bad); Payrod's Texas deal (I agree wholeheartedly with Pabs).

Can't believe I left out the Mariners, who have made a number of huge contract blunders in recent years, including fat meaty contracts to aging losers such as Jeff Cirillo, Rich Aurilia, and Scott Spiezio.

Sacto, are you originally from Detroit? Just curious... :p

My favorite is the GB Packers taking Tony Mandrich before Barry Sanders and Troy Aikman.

Worst contract? How about Denny Neagle's last deal with the Rockies? Or Mike Hampton's $120 million deal with the Rockies. (The Rockies love to give out bad contracts, don't they?)

The worst of all:

Texas giving A-Rod a 10 year, $252 million contract. No man is worth $25 million a year.

Um...team moves - Bengals and Jets drafting Eddie Brown and Al Toon...before Jerry Rice.

Great choice. I'm sure there were a number of QBs picked before Montana (3rd round), so we could add that too. And speaking of NFL drafts, how about Tom Brady in round 6? Or the year the Steelers picked four (FOUR!) Hall of Famers in one draft?

Back to baseball, trading Varitek and Lowe for Heathcliff Slocumb is a classic, all-time kind of bad trade. :D

Worst move ever was Juan Gonzalez turning down something like $140 million from the Detroit Tigers. How about the contract Grant Hill got from Orlando?

The Hershel Walker deal,enough said.

This trade resulted in three Super Bowl championships for the Dallas Cowboys, so I think this is definately one of the top five.

The Celtics drafting of Len Bias didn't work out too well. And that was a hgih draft pick they earned through a trade of some sort.

Dan Duquette, former general manager of the Red Sox, stating that Roger Clemens was in the "twighlight" of his career in 1996.

Good topic. :thumb:

Portland picking Sam Bowie over Michael Jordan

And all that because the Jail Blazers already had Clyde Drexler. Thank you very much. :D There is a good chance the Bulls would have taken Hakeem if Houston didn't.

Sticking to the Bulls, I must add that we gave Seattle Olden Polynice for Scottie Pippen.

Also, we gave San Antonio Will Perdue for Dennis Rodman.

Then.....Reinsdorf and Krause flushed it down the shitter after 1998.

Sticking to the Bulls, I must add that we gave Seattle Olden Polynice for Scottie Pippen.



That one sure worked out well for the Sonics.

Does anyone know who the Bucks got when they traded Lew Alcindor (Kareem)?

And all that because the Jail Blazers already had Clyde Drexler.

Jordan was our biggest fuck up ever. Number 2 was Jermain Oneal to Indiana for Dale Davis. Number three was paying Sean Kemp 50 trillion dollars to get fat and snort cocaine.....which is by the way, very hard to do at the same time!!

Hello this is my first post, but I'm a longtime lurker.

Kareem was traded to the Lakers along with Walt Wesley, for Elmore Smith, Brian Winters and the draft rights to Dave Meyers and Junior Bridgeman. That sounds like a lopsided trade.

Hello this is my first post, but I'm a longtime lurker.

Kareem was traded to the Lakers along with Walt Wesley, for Elmore Smith, Brian Winters and the draft rights to Dave Meyers and Junior Bridgeman. That sounds like a lopsided trade.Thanks, and WELCOME to posting at the LINKS ratbastard! I know it was lopsided...didn't the guy score the most total points ever? (a little more than lop-sided)

Sacto, are you originally from Detroit? Just curious... :p

Nah, they're just in hy head because of the playoffs...

How about the Chargers taking Ryan Leaf over Peyton Manning...

The Warriors traded Wilt Chamberlain AND Robert Parrish...Remember what they got in return? Me either...

The Browns number one picks. Those were some of the worst busts in sports history.

Also picking William Green over Clinton Portis. :{

Just a couple of corrections, the Chargers didn't draft Leaf over Manning, Manning was 1 and Leaf 2. Also, the Packers didn't draft Mandarich over Aikman, Aikman was the number 1 overall selection. That being said, those were two pretty god damn bad picks. As a matter of fact, the top of the 1989 draft went like this:
1. Aikman--future Hall of Famer
2. Mandarich--future pituitary gland tumor
3. B. Sanders--Hall of Famer
4. D. Thomas--possible Hall of famer
5. D. Sanders-future Hall of famer

Of course, I think the worst draft move of all was the Jets taking K. O'Brien one pick before Marino. Actually, you could start an entire thread devoted to Jets' busts. :D

That's right...Leaf sucked so much I forgot he was #2...

The Dodgers making Kevin Brown the first $100 million man. I'll never forget that, especially the shelling the Padres gave him in his first outing against them. :D

The Kevin Brown deal was ridiculous, although when he was healthy, he actually pitched well. He's a douche.

Well the Lakers trading Shaq and getting stuck with paying Brian Grant $29 million over the next two years wasn't exactly a brilliant move. Although with Shaq's salary, it was hard to find any takers. Nobody wanted to give up their franchises for him.

Trading Vlade Divac to Charlotte for Kobe's draft rights worked out well though. :)

...paying Shawn Kemp 50 trillion dollars to get fat and snort cocaine.....which is by the way, very hard to do at the same time!!

He has matured now...

Check this heartwarming story out...

Shawn Kemp arrested with weed and coke (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/sports/2002231021_kemp05.html)

Wayne Gretzky to the LA Kings was a horrible trade for the Oilers. Patrick Roy to Colorado was a horrible trade for the Canadiens too. :yell:

Wayne Gretzky to the LA Kings was a horrible trade for the Oilers.

Shit man that's the only time this city even knew the Kings existed. :)

How about LA Dodgers trading Pedro Martinez to the Expos for delino desheilds...WOW still wondering how that happened. :brickwall

The Hershel Walker deal,enough said.

You took the words right out of my mouth! :brickwall

The worst trade ever if you are a Vikings fan, and the best trade ever if you are a Cowboys fan.

You took the words right out of my mouth! :brickwall

The worst trade ever if you are a Vikings fan, and the best trade ever if you are a Cowboys fan.

Those were the good 'ol days before salary cap.

How about the Chargers taking Ryan Leaf over Peyton Manning...


Didn't the Colts take Peyton with the first pick, and Leaf was taken second? That means that the Chargers did not take Leaf over Manning. They just pissed away a draft pick.

Any from another team free agent contract the Brewers have signed in the past 20 years.

The Canadines traded Mark Recchi to the Flyers for Karl Dykhauis and a pick I think. They were also the team that traded Eric Desjardins and John LeClair to the Flyers. Both went on to become All-Stars, and are still big time Flyers on the team.

One of the worse deals in Philadelphia history I'm thinkin of right now, was the Flyers signing Chris Gratton to a long term deal. I believe the deal was for 7 years, worth about 70 million dollars. Chris lasted about two years in Philly, and the Flyers were left paying his contract off for the remainding years.

Shit man that's the only time this city even knew the Kings existed. :)

In Gretzky's first year in LA, the Kings sold more team merchandise than any team in sports.

Yeah man I remember it was pretty crazy here.

How about LA Dodgers trading Pedro Martinez to the Expos for delino desheilds...WOW still wondering how that happened. :brickwall

John Wetteland may have been in that deal too.

The Dodgers have been known to make horrible deals, that's nothing new. Just one of the many.

The barkley trade sticks out in my mind for me....

Yeah lets trade championship role players for a busted up charles barkely!

Any trade the Yankees made in the late 80's/early 90's. :)

Jay Buhner for Ken Phelps
Doug Drabek for Rick Rhoden
Al Leiter for Jesse Barfield

Man, those were lean years for the club.

Shawn Bradley, no one can top that not even McIlvain.

Another vote for worst contract: Jason Giambi. How much do the Yankees still owe him? HAHAHAHAHAHA

The Steelers taking Gabe Rivera over Dan Marino in 1983. Rivera crashed his car just a few weeks into the season, and was paralyzed for life.

Sean Kemp 50 trillion dollars to get fat and snort cocaine.....which is by the way, very hard to do at the same time!! unless he's cutting it with butter!!!!

One of the best things a baseball player can have on his resume is
"traded from the Astros."

Also the Texans giving Bosselli a fortune to practice 3 times was pretty stupid.

And lastly anytime Doug Pederson renewed his contract with the Packers was genious.

Pick almost anything the Detroit Tigers have done in the past 10 years.

I haven't look through this whole thread...so it might be in here already...it was big in Cleveland...Ernest Byner traded to the Washington Redskins for Michael Olaphant...

Albert Belle and Baltimore. The O's might be still paying him to sit.

Pick almost anything the Detroit Tigers have done in the past 10 years.

Good thing Juan Gonzalez turned down the $140 million they offered him a few years ago. What a tool he was...or is.

This may have been mentioned, but since today was HOF day for MLB you can't deny that the Larry Bowa and Sandberg for DeJesus trade wasn't too bad for the Cubs.

This may have been mentioned, but since today was HOF day for MLB you can't deny that the Larry Bowa and Sandberg for DeJesus trade wasn't too bad for the Cubs.

Yep. That worked out pretty good for the Cubs.

The trade by the Braves of David Justice and Marquis Grissom to the Indians for Kenny Lofton and Alan Embree.

Mentioned briefly earlier, but whatever Orlando gave up to pick up Grant Hill was way too much. Has he even played 48 minutes in his Magic career? Gives me Jeff Ruland deja-vu

If the A-Rod deal is up there, then the Manny deal is too, but that's hard to rank among the worst, since they've both performed to MVP type levels.

Pitino having to renounce the rights to 7 or 8 players because he misunderstood the salary cap rules, in order to sign...Travis fucking Knight. Those players included Rick Fox and David Wesley, who could play just a little. Can't remember who else, but it basically devastated the Celtics for years.

Mets trading Dykstra for Jaun Samuel.

Duquette allowing Mo Vaughn to walk, although Mo never did do much after, got hurt pretty quick.

Best? Obviously, some of these trade moves are the worst for one side, best for the other.

Jerry West trading for Kobe would be one that jumps out.

But as far as free agent signings or convincing a team to make a trade for a player about to go into free agency:

Curt Schilling to the Red Sox
Pedro to the Red Sox (there you go Duquette)
Shaq to the Lakers - big money, but it gave them how many titles?
Tom Brady in the 6th round
Keeping the ball in Brady's hands despite Bledsoe getting healthy

It's probably been mentioned, and I'm too lazy to flip thru all the pages. Ditka giving away all his picks in the 1999 draft for Ricky Williams. That is THE worst deal I've ever witnessed.

Pick almost anything the Detroit Tigers have done in the past 10 years.


Hell yes!! Three words...Bobby Fucking Higginson!!!!!!

The Nets selling the rights to Dr. J was pretty bad...

White Sox trade Carlos Lee to the Brewers for Scott Podsednik.

White Sox trade Miguel Olivo and Jeremy Reed to Mariners for Freddy Garcia and Ben Davis. Olivo and Davis wash that but I think without Garcia, the Sox don't win the World Series.

White Sox trade Esteban Loaiza to the Yankees for Jose Contreras.

White Sox trade Matt Karchner to the Cubs for Jon Garland.

All those, are gooooooood for the Sox, bad for the others.

I figure with baseball free agency right around the corner, it's time to resurrect this thread. I'm sure there will be some new entries in the next few months.

Here's a doozy from 1986:

Boston Bruins get Cam Neely and a first round pick from Vancouver for Barry Pederson.

The steal of all fucking steals!

It seems like any move the Browns make qualifies for the worst move in sports history.

It seems like any move the Browns make qualifies for the worst move in sports history.


Especially the move to Baltimore!

In a thread about bad deals, the name Ryan Leaf kept popping into my head.
How could your scouts be sooooo wrong?

White Sox trade Carlos Lee to the Brewers for Scott Podsednik.

White Sox trade Miguel Olivo and Jeremy Reed to Mariners for Freddy Garcia and Ben Davis. Olivo and Davis wash that but I think without Garcia, the Sox don't win the World Series.

White Sox trade Esteban Loaiza to the Yankees for Jose Contreras.

White Sox trade Matt Karchner to the Cubs for Jon Garland.

All those, are gooooooood for the Sox, bad for the others.

Karchner turned out to be nothing special either, that was a good one for you guys.

Lou Brock for worst, anyone?

"At the end of the 1976 season, Orr's contract was over and the Boston Bruins needed to renew it. The Bruins offered Orr a lucrative contract, including over 18% ownership in the Bruins organization. However, Eagleson, who by this time was doubling as Orr's agent and executive director of the NHLPA, falsely told Orr that the Chicago Black Hawks had a better deal, something that was not revealed for a number of years. It later emerged that Eagleson had very good relations with Black Hawks owner Bill Wirtz, and frequently acted contrary to the interests of his clients in favor of teams whose management he favored.

Orr subsequently signed with Chicago, but his injuries rendered him too severely hurt to play effectively, and, after playing in only 26 games over the next three seasons, retired in 1979. Famously, he never cashed a Chicago pay check, stating that he was paid to play hockey and would not accept a salary if he wasn't playing."

Cavs trading Ron Harper for Danny Ferry...and then paying Ferry $34 mil for ten years. another great white dope from Duke.

Dodgers trading Pedro Martinez for Deshitto Deshields.

David Ortiz - the Twins for waiving him, and the Red Sox for paying pennies on the dollar.

If not for 2004, I'd say Manny, but I guess it's all worth it for that ring...

Worst: Mikey for Wolfgang