I WAS VERY HAPPY WHEN I LISTENED "BALANCE" BECAUSE,THE LYRICS AND THE MUSIC WERE A VAN HALEN VERY DIFFERENT, AND THEY NEEDED A CHANGE, AND THE ALBUM WAS LISTENED IN THE WORLD.

No other Sam era VH album even comes close to being as good as Balance. The album has a soul that I feel is lacking in the other Sam VH records.

The best Sam era album hands down. That album is up there with Fair Warning for me. Balance was a mature VH. They were growing and changing and I'll always be wondering what their next would have sounded like.

On Balance, VH is mature and stuff, but they're still ready to kick your ass. And they make me feel like kicking some ass myself. The best album ever made!!!!!!

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Balance does hane soul but more than that it has meaning and an edge.

does "growing" mean whimping out???


ok .. they were "growing"

define whimping out? they were going in a different direction is all and it would have interesting to see what would have been.

whimping out--see "can't stop lovin' you"

As an open question, Balance did rock,It was the Hagar (1984) CD similar in ways cause they achieved the sound I took a while to achieve a 'balance sound.That CD is my fav hagarVH Aftershock,Dont tell me,Amsterdam that riff still tweaks my ear.BOOM!

The most impressive thing about this album was it showed how far they had come musically. They really were "gelling". They could probally put out alot of songs at this time. It was almost like they knew what the other member was thinking...

yeah,, thinking....."when is dave coming back?" ;>

Not one of the good Sam-VH albums. Not that great at all.
(But the best 'sounding' album, in a sonic sense)

"The Seventh Seal" (boring......yawn)

"Don't Tell me" (great song, however, Sam's high pitched singing on this one gets irritating sometimes)

"Can't Stop Lovin' You" (whimping out. No growth here. Just a sappy love song, like Journey, whom VH used to slam for tear-jerker tunes in the Dave days. Catchy, but it's a tear-jerker.)

"Strung Out" (What the hell is that? Crap.)

"Doin Time" (Great. Awesome. It's Al. I love this one 'cause I'm a drummer.)

"Baluchitheirum" (Good instrumental. However, it sounds like a Joe Satriani rip off at times)

"Not Enough" (crap, just crap. Again, whimping out. No growth here.)

"Amsterdam" (the best song on 'Balance'. One of the few reasons I'll still listen to this album. A pure Dave-VH type of song. Somewhat like "Drop Dead Legs".)

"Take Me Back (Deja Vu) (Crap. THE worst song from this album. Growth you say? How about growing in terms of making crap!)

"Feelin'" (Rather boring when it starts out. Very slow and uninspiring. However, when it gets fast, the song gets better. Then it just gets at a hault again. Not a good song to end the album with. It kinda ends with a whimper and not a bang.)

'Balance' is a different VH album. Some songs are good, others are not. It became apparent since FUCK that VH started to write its share of good songs with really bad ones.

Loved Balance! Love 5150 too! Both are great Sammy era albums!

All in all, their best effort since 5150. Best sound since the raw early days, which carried over to the new BOV1 tunes. There were no lazy songs (lazy like Poundcake, or Black and Blue - simple cheesey songs for an easy hit). My favorite is "Aftershock" - Ed just tears it up in that one...

It was the first Hagar era CD that I bought. They had finally beaten me down to the point where I had sort of accepted Sammy.

Sort of.

Then they had to go and record with Dave again, which killed it for me!

'wimping out'

jump-ill wait-lil guitars[seniorita-cmon lame]-jamies cryin-secrets-shall i go on?

what exactly is wimping out velveeta?

Man telestrat, you've really got a hate on for Dave.

Yeah, telestrat (or should I call ya 'eric humber', 'brownsmell', etc.)

I'm entitled to my opinion, so don't bash me for it. By the way, the name's 'Velvet', punk.

Well, "I'll Wait" is a great song. "Secrets" ain't whimping out. It's a cool, groovy song. Whimping out is a term my 'ol buddy hain referred to. I thought it made sense. Tear-jerker songs, in other words.

I really liked Balance. The Seventh Seal was awesome. Really creative with the Gregorian Chant thing at the beginning. Can't Stop Lovin' You, well, to quote the real Seymour Skinner from the Simpsons, "If that sounds corny, then corn me up..." because it's a great song. The only thing about Balance I didn't like was the strange filler pieces they put between the songs.

hey if your gonna talk about 'cheezy song' from sammy era.then lets talk about dave-cheese.thats all.

no i dont have a thing for roth.i was just sick of him after the us festival performance.and then especially after the sword dance tour.[1984]
the band needed a change,they needed to stop being roth's backup band.with sam,it happened.at last THEY WERE A BAND.
thats all.
what part dont you understand velveeta?

On my 1984 tour boots, the first solo of the night, two whole songs in, is a drum solo by Alex. I don't think it was entirely Dave's fault that the band was splintering. I think one would have to think that drugs were quite a problem at the time. Plus, how were VH Dave's backup band? They were getting a lot of the glory too. No question telestrat, Dave was messy at the US Festival, but that's live rock.

Music was good ,but there was too many bitch songs on it.(lovey dovey type)

I like Balance OK. Minus CSLY I can put up with the rest. Me and my buddy Jake use to laugh about Baluchitherium. You know what webster defines it as? A rhinocerus. We used to sit around and try to write Dave style lyrics to go with it. HAHAHAHAHA! I love the heavy tone on Don't Tell Me.

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That's the thing about self improvement. Don't get me wrong I plan to get some soon!

I thought Seventh Seal was incredible. Amsterdam, Aftershock too. Could've done without the Valentine tune though.

To me "Balance" comes in a close 2nd to
"FUCK" as far as best VanHagar is concerned.
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"Broken down 'n' dirty dressed in rags"

"Yah looking back all the years of video tape I suddenly realize now,
that I look like a fish!" Alex Boceebus Vo Halen

I love the balance cd!!! I think its their best since Fair Warning..The enginering and sound production were excellent!! I think the VH boys were really streaching musically.I would like to heard the follow up but-oh well!!

It´s very simply the best Van Halen album you can buy today.
It´s my favorite album...my favorite cover and was the last Hagar/Van Halen album!!!

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