Which is in your humble opinion people, the best album, 5150 or VH3 ?

this thread is gonna get moved to Albums or Opinions.

anyway, 5150 wins, hands down. it was a band effort, end of story.

I gotta go with 5150 here, and I think most people will agree. Better songs, better sound. 5150 is a great album, which was badly needed after Dave leaving.

I'm trying not to laugh when I answer this question. 5150 all the way. Album really rocks, he can hear Mike's vocals, Ed isn't singing and the production is so much better.

as for me, well, personally, IMHO i think that vh3 well hum... shall i say... huh...


sucked.

Lets see now, maybe VH's best album versus maybe VH's worst album. http://www.vhlinks.com/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gif I am going to go out on a limb http://www.vhlinks.com/vhlforum/smilies/rolleyes.gif and dare I say.... 5150.

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Eat Us And Smile!

The self-proclaimed Heart Break Kid of VHLinks!

Your frienldy, neighborhood Ice Cream Man.

No comparison - 5150 rocks I can listen to the entire album and frequently do.

VHIII - Well I pretty much bought it the day it came out and had not even heard a song from it. I paid like $30 bucks for it, it was the one that came with all the picks and the hard case. Driving home from Tower I remember thinking what the hell is this??? There are really only a couple of songs I like off the album. It doesnt make it into the CD player that often.

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((Just My Two Cents))
and thats about what its worth

Overall, as compared to previous VH albums, i was disappointed with VH3...although, there were some interesting ideas on it, definitely a departure for the band in some ways (ex. Once, and Ed singing lead)...5150 just rocks, has some great lasting tunes on it...i still remember blasting 'Summer Nights' when cruising down the Jersey shore

Is this a joke? 5150 takes the cake next to anything!

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salt shake a'little lick o' lime!

5150 Hands Down! No comparison.

5150 !!! Ovially !!! http://www.vhlinks.com/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gif http://www.vhlinks.com/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gif

Eddie_italian from Italy

One word: 5150

You can't be serious. I'm starting to get worried. 5150 of course!

5150 kills III. Actually most any old album kills III. Sorry if I offend anyone, but III sucks.

Are you kidding? Man "Good enough" was better than the whole VH3 alblum!!!

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"The fifty one fifty walk...."

I don't think VH3 can compete with any albums (except for Diver Down, maybe). 5150 was a great album, Sammy's first with VH, and it was great.

I was not implying 5150 was bad.

In fact, 5150 is probably the only Van Hagar album I can really enjoy from start to finish, and has the catchiest songs.

My intention was to compare Sammy's best album with Van Halen with Gary Cherone's best album with Van Halen. http://www.vhlinks.com/vhlforum/smilies/wink.gif

I'm sure Gary Cherone left Van Halen because he was embarrassed of his failure.

5150 Hands down! We should be comparing Diver Down and 3. DD gets it only because of Cathedral, Secrets, Intruder, and Full Bug.

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Eat Us And Smile!

The Whole F'in' Show!

Mr. PPV!

Boy, this one's close so far. http://www.vhlinks.com/vhlforum/smilies/smile.gif And, you can add another vote for 5150.

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"Someone asked me the other day what I thought I had learned about making music after all these years, and I said, 'nothing'." -EVH

5150!!!!!!!!!!!!!
vh3 is cool but how many say i just ruins the album (shoulda put twily in its place)

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*For Those About To Rock...We Salute You*

5150 ALL THE WAY! There is absolutely no contest here.

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Eat Us And Smile!!!

(VV)
"The main event, the icon, the show-stoppa!!"

5150 without a doubt. I'd love to see that whole album re-mastered. Another thing, I wish Ed could travel back in time and use the live effects he used on BOBW for the album version. It absolutely rocked live, but it just didn't seem as cool on the album (although it still rocked, just to a lesser degree...) http://www.vhlinks.com/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gif http://www.vhlinks.com/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gif http://www.vhlinks.com/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gif

5150

5150

i agree with Wundamike
it kicks ass live!
the only live version i hate is on rhrn when alex sorta skips a drum beat in the intro
but thats the only part
lol

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*For Those About To Rock...We Salute You*

Oh man ......no comparison at all....
5150 rocked in 1986 and it still is so awesome to listen to . I like GOOD ENOUGH in particular . What a tune to start the album off with . 5150

No contest . . . 5150. 'nuff said.

Well, hmm, seeing as 5150 is my favorite VH album.. http://www.vhlinks.com/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gif

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"That's How it Is When You Tell the Truth"

If nothing else, for me with "Summer Nights" on 5150, there ain't no way "VH3" can come close.

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Yea, 5150 by a bit over 3. I mean, I like 3 more than most, but 5150 is my favorite Sammy disc. Like Brett said, Summer Nights rocks, plus I like Best of Both Worlds a lot too.

From Afar

5150 is one of my faves from VH. I like VH3 but 5150 is an absolute killer.

5150! These just can not be compared.

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sheepa latta peepah dabba looka foh a moonbeam

VH III is much better than 5150!!! Just kiddin', lol! Helllooo babee!!!

5150! i like 3 but 5150 kicks ass! 3

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vh3fan aka the lone warrior
" a good soldier is always prepared during the times of peace"

Doctor , you gotta be shitting me on this one . http://www.vhlinks.com/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gif 5150 .vs. 3 ? No contest whatsoever , vh 3 is the worse vh album ever , probably the worst rock album of the 1990's ..

This one is not even close 5150 hands down, it's one of the best albums ever.

VH3 for me. I love Gary's voice on anything he does,his lyrics,the music everything on that record is so deep and different from anything Van Halen has done in the past. This is an old thread I probably have already responded to it. But anyway,5150 is friggin' awesome too! I love every record by Van Halen like each record is a parent. They all have special meaning to me and I could never say anything poor about any. But VH3 makes me happy,"Once"...wow! So good to me. I am happy with it,I wish Gary sounded a little more like he did with Extreme on it but either way. I love them both equally.

2711

I'm just glad to see that it atleast got one vote. http://www.vhlinks.com/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gif These are your guys preferences and no one is right or wrong. 5150, to me, seemed so together and there weren't any problems with it. 5150 is one of the best albums from the 80's.

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Ed, our thoughts and prayers go out to you and your family.

Get well soon.

Be careful Doctor , theres some major 3 fans in the house http://www.vhlinks.com/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gif

Still undecided after 4 years...
OK I won't buy VHIII again! http://www.vhlinks.com/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gif
5150

Don't compare,just enjoy.
It's all good 'cause it's all Ed!


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Happiness is a bathing suit.

5150 . . .My favorite VH album!

Hey I just looked at the date I created the thread .... it happened to be one of my first! It was created 2 days after I first posted here on vhlinks! Awesome. The funny thing is that I remember making this thread to poke fun at VH3, 5150 being such a superior album.

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Eat Us And Smile!!!
"Van Halen is NOTHING without David Lee Roth!" - Howard Stern at the Private Parts premiere

If i could qoute " What is understood doesn't need to be discussed "

I am the one who brought it back DR.http://www.vhlinks.com/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gif

Without a doubt----5150!!! Summer Nights, Best of Both World, "5150" were awesome.

I just did notice this thread and couldn't believe there was a comparison! http://www.vhlinks.com/vhlforum/smilies/eek.gif First of all 3 never even went platinum and I forgot how many albums of 5150 were sold but it's at least over 6 million. That speaks for itself. Also 5150 is probably Sammy's best album cause (like most of yall) I just love hearing Summer Nights, Good Enough, not to mention Best of Both Worlds, and Why Can't This Be Love! They just make me feel so happy!!! http://www.vhlinks.com/vhlforum/smilies/smile.gifhttp://www.vhlinks.com/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gif

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Van Halen Burning the Stage Forever!!!
You "Can't Get This Stuff No More" with any other band!

Get WELL SOON EDDIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is this is a trick question? This is to make sure we're all awake, right? 5150 is a fantastic album. I like 3 (lots of problems with it, though), but I love 5150. Definitely a classic.

oh man III blows 5150 out of the water hands down. What a masterpiece. 5150 has to be one of the worst albums of the eighties man. I think 3 rocked and if Gary stayed, he would have brought van halen back with or without EVH.......

fuckin whateverhttp://www.vhlinks.com/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gif O.K., how about how many said I vs. unchained? Those are pretty close too right?http://www.vhlinks.com/vhlforum/smilies/smile.gif I heard the guys down at the music store tryin to figure out that how many say I tune. Had em baffled man. That song is just blistering dude.http://www.vhlinks.com/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gif

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sheepa latta peepah dabba looka foh a moopy

YUUNNK!!

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5150 by 5 miles! ... http://208.50.7.95/vhlforum/smilies/wink.gifhttp://208.50.7.95/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gif


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"Broken down 'n' dirty dressed in rags"

"Yah looking back all the years of video tape I suddenly realize now,
that I look like a fish!" Alex Boceebus Vo Halen

This is like comparing a great bottle of Ernest Gallo wine, to a cheap bottle of Nighttain.

come on now! 5150 ALL the WAY!

5150

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" I'm not youre fucking Messiah" Eddie Vedder

I actually like III better, the electronic drums and the bottom end of 5150 sounded weak and the keyboards/synth sounds a little dated now. 5150 as a song is probably one of my favs but as a whole album I think it was the worst VH/Hagar album... I love Without You, One I want, Year to the Day, Ballot or the Bullet and How Many Say I sound slike a good Irish drinking song along after 10 pints of fine lager!

So that is 2 votes for III, come on, we need one more vote for III! (pun intended)


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Living at a Pace that KILLS!

5150 for sure, but I like vh3!

This should not even be open for discusion SD , Cmon man , 5150 vs 3 ???

This is like comparing Jenna Jameson and Tipper Gore http://208.50.7.95/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gifhttp://208.50.7.95/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gif

5150

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*StoneWeiserKing*

*Chronic Bud Smoker Of VHForums*

In scale of ten:

5150- 9.9

VAN HALEN 3- 8.0
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What is understood need not be discussed.

Everybody is lookin´ for somethin´; somethin´ to fill in the holes...? is Van Halen right???

Strung Out Moderator

Visit: http://www.vanhalen2000.com.

5150 broke new ground for VH, it was the start of a new era. http://www.vhforums.com/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gif

VH3 was a experiment that went bad. http://www.vhforums.com/vhlforum/smilies/eek.gif

So my vote goes to 5150. http://www.vhforums.com/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gif

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((Just My Two Cents))
and thats about what its worth

OLO - you already stated your opinion on that very thread. http://www.vhforums.com/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gif

But since that thread is VERY old, (It's actually one of the first I ever created, right after I registered) it's conceivable that you've forgotten http://www.vhforums.com/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gif

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Eat Us And Smile!!!

HA HA HA I had no idea Spanish Doc. http://www.vhforums.com/vhlforum/smilies/biggrin.gif

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((Just My Two Cents))
and thats about what its worth

VH III - third vote! Finally after 6 years of waiting:)

This must be a joke thread. I won't even dignify it with an answer. :D

c'mon now....5150 by a mile...

I like both records. 02 different situations, though both got new singers involvement. What about a draw? 1 x 1 score.

3 can't compare because it, like mentioned above, is not a band effort. Poor production doesn't help either.

This should not even be open for discusion SD , Cmon man , 5150 vs 3 ???

This is like comparing Jenna Jameson and Tipper Gore

Good analogy. :D

Are you kiddin me? :cool:

April Fool's was a few weeks ago. A little late here. :D

http://usera.imagecave.com/Bard/squalenavatar27na.jpg

.... :p

<cough, cough!>

Dust.....

Wow finally an appropriate place for the new avvie.

Kewl. :cool:

btw - that's a pretty sweet avatar you got yo'self VS. :thumb:

Heck, I've already posted that sucker many, many times, babe.

You must keep up with the III bashing. :D

Really??

Well where the eff have I been??? :confused:

DAMN this pesky job!!! It's very distracting. :irked:

5150 are logical :thumb:

Oh yes, very much so. :thumb:

Especially around here.

shit, my little nephew's WIGGLES cd is better than III.

I mean really, what kind of question is this? 5150 all the way!

hate to go against the grain here but VHIII is much better than 5150...

i have been rediscovering some gems on VH3 recently but let's face it there's really no competition here. 5150 obviously. That's not to say VH3 isnt without some merits, but really this match up isn't even worth it.

i have been rediscovering some gems on VH3 recently but let's face it there's really no competition here. 5150 obviously. That's not to say VH3 isnt without some merits, but really this match up isn't even worth it.

What he said...:thumb:

Wow I was reading through this thread and saw a lot of posters that are long gone. Brings back memories tho. Where'd they all go anyways? :confused:

One is really good.

One is really bad.

One is really good.

One is really bad.

Don't leave me hanging here. Which one is which?

I laugh every time I see this thread title.

It may as well say Jessica Simpson vs. Roseanne Barr.

Don't leave me hanging here. Which one is which?

I can't answer that question for you.

Only you can decide that.

I don't know which is harder to believe..... the fact that this thread got necro-posted after 6 fucking years, or that I somehow missed it the first AND second times through.

Well OK then, for the record, 5150

At least half the songs started out as Van Halen.

5150 Hands Down! No comparison.

Ditto.

Definately 5150...

C'mon. Even I wouldn't put 3 in the same line with 5150. As long as it doesn't come to personal preference.

Though I do hate to keep bringing this thread back to life, I have to say this:

I'm listening to 5150 right now. It just doesn't do it for me. I think it's pretty homogenous and trite. That is no way a knock against anyone that loves this record because obviously this is one of their most popular and well-regarded albums, but it just doesn't do it. There's some great guitar work on here, there's some exciting drumming, but I don't like the way it "sounds" (it seems really processed, really solid state to me which is weird because Ed is such an analog guy) and I think it sounds too much like generic Sammy stuff...I don't know...it's just my opinion.

The only things that really jump out are WCTBL, Dreams, 5150 is ok, Love Walks In is ok and that's pretty much it.

I listened to III the other day, it's too bad that some of that stuff just didn't work out, there are some riffs on there that are incredible but for some reason it just does not work. Seems like on 5150 everything worked, I can jam that cd everyday and not get tired of it.

There's some really kick ass guitar work in 3, but I've got to go with 5150 on this one.

One problem with 5150 for me is that it sounds thin. I don't like Alex's drum sound in it either.

5150 duh?!! You would have to be on crack if ya thought VH3 was better than 5150.

I suppose it's fitting that this thread gets brought back up seeing as how I drug it out of the basement month before last or whatever...but I have to comment on this again...

I'm FORCING myself to listen to 5150 again. It sounds so sterile, impotent even. There are some really cool "guitar moments" I guess, but it's just such an uneventful album.

Question: those of you that are obviously passionate about this album...can you ascertain whether your love stems from the quality of the music itself or from a nostalgic/philosophical/emotional connection you have with the album because it was playing during your "glory days?" AND IN NO WAY do I mean that as a slight to anyone. We ALL have music that without regard for it's artistic merit, we hold in a very intimate special regard because of the moments and memories in our lives of which it is an intrinsic part.

To me, even with all the faults I see in it, VHIII is so much more exciting and dramatic. It's so much more compelling, ESPECIALLY given the fact that it is a VH album. I vascilate with where I place VHIII in my list of favourite VH albums, but it is certainly always among the top two or three. 5150 and OU812 fight for last place.

This thread has reached the lines of stupidity. 5150 and VHIII can't be compared. You don't compare food to shit, do you?

And I'm not saying that VHIII is shit but it's not in the same level as 5150.

I'm shocked that this was even a thred! :wtf: Take Summer Nights, Good Enough, 5150, Dreams & WCTBL, then take your 5 least favorite VH tunes either CVH or Van Hagar, shake them up into one album and it still beats III.

I'm not a III basher. I like Year to the Day, Ballot or the Bullet. Even can tolerate the album as a whole, but it's no 5150. No way!

5150 makes me go "What the fuck?" Because there's no free-spirit-humor on the album...

Van Halen III makes me go "What the fuck?" Because it's an imitation on Van Hagar, yet for some odd reason I hear potential, if they could have turned some of that political humor they had on that album to a different direction of humor, that would have been gold.

The lyrics on the 5150 album are lame, "Good Enough," is a cheap imitation of something Dave would write. People say that Hagar wasn't trying to replace Dave but it sure as hell sounded like it on that album, and man did it show. There are three songs I can stand on that album, "Summer Nights," "Best of Both Worlds," because basically it's a ripoff of AC/DC and "5150," because of the breakdowns that are similar to "House of Pain."

Both albums are similar in the sense that they marked a departure from the bands previous sound. Both grab you by the balls and throw you across the room. 5150 with Sammys scream of 'HELLLOOOOOOOOOO BAAAAAAAABY' and Van Halen 3 (after Neworld) with Alexs drumming, the undulating metal pick slide down the frets and Garys 'HEY YOU! Wake up! Get yourself together!'

Like a mother loves her sons equally, despite their differences, I would have to say BOTH albums are a thing of beauty. It just pains me that Van Halen 3 is not recognised or acknowledged for what it is, an album of sheer unadulterated musical finesse, style and bravery.

Both are good in the individuals ear.