VHLinks.com  
Search    
vhl news | add a site | free e-mail | radio | donate | contact | home  
Official Merchandise
Van Halen Store
Stage Left
Add A Site
News Archive
New Sites
Cool Sites
Top Rated
Random Site
Modify A Site
2004 Van Halen Tour
Van Halen Un-Radio
VHLinks/VHForums Store
Puzzles
Interviews
Eddie Van Halen
David Lee Roth
Sammy Hagar
Michael Anthony
Alex Van Halen
Gary Cherone
Miscellaneous
 
Free VH E-Mail
@fairwarning.com
New User Sign-Up
Lost Password
Newsletter
Sign-up for our periodic site newsletter.



Go Back   Van Halen Links.com > Van Halen Only Forums > The Diamond One > "Song For Song" Tour 2002

Sam And Dave Tour 2002

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06.19.02, 03:07 PM   #1
Brett
Emperor of VHLinks.com
501 Darts Champion GTA Champion Bowling Master Champion
 
Brett's Avatar
 
Join Date: 09.02.99
Location: Somewhere Near LA
Age: 39
Posts: 40,737 (10.57 per day)
Favorite VH Album: Fair Warning
Favorite VH Song: Unchained
Last Online: 03.21.10 11:46 AM
Send a message via AIM to Brett
Exclamation

If you went to the June 19th show, please feel free to add a reply with your review here.

Let's try to keep this thread for REVIEWS ONLY, and not for discussion. That way, it will be easy for people to read them.

If you want to discuss this particular show, just make a new thread for that.

Thanks!
__________________
Webmaster
VHLinks.com - Your Van Halen Internet Resource Guide
http://www.vhlinks.com

JamToThis.com
Audio/Video Trading Community
Tons of Van Halen!
Brett is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06.20.02, 10:14 AM   #2
dolph
Little Dreamer
 
Join Date: 06.16.02
Age: 33
Posts: 5 (0.00 per day)
Last Online: 09.13.09 02:54 PM
Post

What an awesome experience!!
Dave came on first and did a good job. It's the first time I've seen him live, so I was really curious to see what it was like. There was a lot of good songs and good guitar playing. Bryan Young was really good too. Dave's voice is still pretty good, but he needs to lay off the kicks.

Next or course was Sammy. The weather report said it might rain, which would be great for the wildfires around the area. But I didn't bother bringing a raincoat and we got poured on!! When Sammy came on stage the clouds were really dark overhead and after a few songs it started pouring. It was coming down, but it was so much fun. Sammy kept on going and he sounded great. Halfway through the rain let up, but most of the people still were there. It started raining again near the end and I think Sammy cut it short. Too bad because everyone seemed like they didn't care about the rain and wanted a few more songs. Overall a great show, it seemed a little rushed, but it was really fun.

Sammy fans in Colorado are awesome!! Sticking through it till the end rain and all!!
dolph is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06.20.02, 11:17 AM   #3
DJR34
Little Dreamer
 
Join Date: 06.17.02
Location: Windsor, CO
Age: 27
Posts: 3 (0.00 per day)
Last Online: 12.31.69 04:00 PM
Post

What a show!! Dave kicked ass to start the show and got it going, then Sammy just was amazing and it started to pour. It was my first time to see either of these 2 perform live and I really think Sammy put on a better show. This is coming from an unbiased 20 year old that is into both of the singers, not one or the other. Sammy just had more energy. If it had not rained it would have been even better!!
DJR34 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06.20.02, 11:57 AM   #4
shakes2525
Little Dreamer
 
Join Date: 06.05.02
Location: denver
Age: 48
Posts: 2 (0.00 per day)
Favorite VH Album: mean street
Favorite VH Song: doa
Last Online: 12.31.69 04:00 PM
Talking

Just got back from the show. It rocked: Dave and band kicked ass. I have studied martial arts and his kicks were super for a 48 year old. His band was tight and Dave really seemed to enjoy the show. The songs made me think I was seeing VH in 1984 again. I was so glad he did DOA. Dave played for 90 minutes non-stop

Sammy came on around 9 and played for 70 minutes overall his show was great too. Just a bit short, but that is probably because everone was soaked from the rain. Vic did an admirable job on guitar. Mona flat out rocked. Being that the show was short he did not play eagles.

Both performers sort of acknowledged each other. Dave said he spent the afternoon drinking cabo wabo and Sam said something about hot for teacher.

Not a show to be missed!!
__________________
KJW
shakes2525 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06.20.02, 02:24 PM   #5
Watney
Little Dreamer
 
Join Date: 06.19.02
Location: Denver
Age: 38
Posts: 2 (0.00 per day)
Last Online: 12.31.69 04:00 PM
Thumbs up

Some thoughts on the 06/19 show:

Dave played first and I thought his band was really really tight. He looked great, and they played a great set. Dave seemed preoccupied the entire show and did not interact with the audience much. I dare say it, he acted rather mature - by David Lee Roth standards, anyway. He's not as agile as he used to be, but for a guy in his late 40's he was impressive. It took him about three songs to get wound up but I thought his voice sounded great. There will be dispute on that but Dave was always the lounge singer type, and you either like his voice or you don't. There was a video screen showing some rather bizarre clips of Dave doing Martial arts and playing Navy Seal with pretty girls. It was very minimalist but Dave's style is to carry the show on his own charisma and less on pyrotechnics and fog machines, so there you go. I loved it, although it wouldn't have hurt to dress up the stage a LITTLE. I sort of missed the midgets and girls in bikinis. Dave's guitarist did an interesting version of "Eruption" - he started out in familiar territory then embellished for a solo that in my opinion was superior to the original. Sorry Eddie fans, but as a musician myself I can tell you that while Eddie was once the king of guitar, but he's no Satriani or Vai and nowadays guys who can cop Ed's licks are a dime a dozen. This guitarist had more chops than a Bruce Lee flick.

Sammy started his set with a LONG video montage where he alternated between patting himself on the back for being an awesome person and offering gauzy platitudes to the Van Halen brothers. I thought he could have cut it short. Anyone who was willing to pay $50 - $60 to see these two old codgers probably already KNOWS their life stories. If Sammy's set felt short it was because of the 15-minute video montage.

Sammy's show was a stark contrast to Daves. He had a crowd on stage, had his gear painted up and had lots of lights and confetti and eye candy. He was VERY energetic - amazingly so for a 54 year old. Some reviews had criticized his voice but last night he hit everything. Nailed it. Without exception.

Personally, I feel that Dave's band was a much better group of musicians and I was very disappointed with Sammy's guitar player. But Sam benefited from the fact that he was second, he was more energetic, his show had a lot of eye candy, and it RAINED during the show. Right in the middle of "Dreams" as if it were right on cue, at the high point of the song it began to pour, thunder and lightning. I was sure Sammy would reach up and grab a lightning bolt from the sky and explode. Unfortunately for Dave, that bit of good fortune was a little hard to top. Sammy rolled with the unexpected surprise and worked it into his dialogue with the audience. I thought that was very slick and professional. Definitely the mark of a good performer. I was sure the headlines in the paper were going to read "Sammy Hagar puts out Hayman Fire while Dave drinks in Playboy Bunnies backstage."

Sammy also benefited from having our former Georgetown Colorado mayor (and former stripper) Koleen Brooks flashing the audience on stage. Nice. There's a girl who does not need politics to get ahead in life.

So in short, I felt that while Sammy had a more energetic SHOW, Dave had the better BAND.

I'll finish by pointing out that neither Dave or Sam "suck". People have their preferences in things and it makes people feel good to pretend like their personal preferences are more important than they really are. Both guys have sold millions of records and have millions of fans so before you accuse one of them of "sucking" check how many records YOU have sold and how many fans YOU have. For the record I prefer the Dave era, but last night I felt both guys were awesome, and I even found myself with a whole new respect for Sammy after the show. I recommend the experience for anybody who enjoys live music.

The fact that these two guys can get a long and put on a great show together makes it doubly sad Ed and Alex could not have found a way to get over their issues and get involved. I'd have paid twice as much money to see the whole band on stage with Dave and Sam for four hours.
Watney is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06.20.02, 06:54 PM   #6
Top Jimmy 1
Romeo Delight
 
Join Date: 06.01.02
Location: Lake Toxaway N.C.
Age: 48
Posts: 100 (0.04 per day)
Favorite VH Album: Fair Warning
Favorite VH Song: Sinner\'s Swing-Top Jimmy
Last Online: 10.19.07 01:00 PM
Post

Everyone is entitled to their opinion as far as who is a good or great guitar player. But for someone to imply that Eddie is no Vai or Satch, all I can say to that is, you got that right. I am very thankful that Eddie is no Vai or Satch. Believe me, I really admire and enjoy listening to them both. But I must say that they would not play the way that they do had it not been for Eddie. All of the things that are standard vocabulary to these guys today, Eddie invented. Nobody was doing the tapping type things that Eddie was doing in the context of heavy rock format. His whammy bar work, pinch type harmonics, it goes on and on. I realize that Eddie was not the first person to ever tap on the guitar, but he was the first to do it in the context of hard Rock. I am a musician as well. I have been playing the guitar for 25 years, and have done session work for the past 18 years. Depending on what day it is, will dictate what style I'll be playing that day. Jeff Beck one day, the Joe Satriani the next. Eddie Van Halen is the greatest rock guitarist to ever play the thing. How fast you play has nothing to do with how good you are. I can cop Eddie's solos too, but does that make me a better guitarist? I wish. He is the author and inventor of evrything cool that has been done on the electric guitar in the past 25 years. Vai plays like a machine, and I have all of his stuff, but I'd take Eddie any day over anything that Vai has done. On the eat em and smile tour, I was amazed to hear Vai"s interprertation's of Eddie's stuff. I was far from impressed. The odd harmonic run that is classic in that song, Vai didn't even do. The classic solo in Ice Cream Man he didn't do that. He tried, I should say. It was disappointing. Did that make Vai a bad player? No, he just isn't Eddie and never will be. Eddie has a feel and a touch that no one can match. He is widely imitated but never duplicated. I'm not trying to be a jerk about this, but I can't help but laugh when someone even implies that Eddie is just a "has been" of sorts. I saw him on the last tour, and he is playing as good or better than ever. I have seen em all. Page, Beck, Satch, Vai, Morse, Gilbert, Bettencourt, it goes on and on. The things that Eddie does, are the original real deal as far as the stuff that the shred guys of today are doing or have done from 1980 to present. Beck and Page are from a different school altogether. Eddie Van Halen is the equivelent of Thomas Edison on the guitar. Long may he live and play.......Peace
__________________
"Be yourself, even if you have to fake it"
Top Jimmy 1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06.20.02, 08:32 PM   #7
JMJ
NO ASSCLOWNS
 
JMJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: 05.28.00
Location: dirtland, usa
Posts: 13,524 (3.77 per day)
Favorite VH Album: the classic 6 pack
Favorite VH Song: hmmm...everybody wants some
Last Online: 03.17.10 11:21 PM

Premium Member
Send a message via AIM to JMJ
Post

<my best brett voice>

THIS IS A REVIEW THREAD! ALL NON-REVIEWS WILL BE DELETED! [img]graemlins/yell.gif[/img]

lol..

ciao

JMJ [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]
__________________
"you can't change JMJ, it's legendary"- Brett Norton 9/24/07

"It's the "JMJ" everyone had grown to love, man! Time to blow the roof off this place!" - Zachenfoot 2/23/10

"The links just look a little better with JMJ. Always has, always will." -Hurricane Halen 2/24/10
JMJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06.21.02, 07:28 AM   #8
Watney
Little Dreamer
 
Join Date: 06.19.02
Location: Denver
Age: 38
Posts: 2 (0.00 per day)
Last Online: 12.31.69 04:00 PM
Post

Yes, reviews only please. That response had nothing to do with the show.
Watney is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06.22.02, 04:28 PM   #9
Vaznutz
Little Dreamer
 
Join Date: 04.25.02
Location: Ft. Collins, CO, USA
Posts: 3 (0.00 per day)
Favorite VH Album: Anything with a lead singer
Favorite VH Song: Top Jimmy
Last Online: 12.31.69 04:00 PM
Post

Let me just say that I love VAN HALEN, no matter who is singing. Yes, that means I even liked Gary when he was the singer.

This was my wife's first Van Halen experience, but we've been to lots of concerts together. Maybe it helps to add that we're both mid-20's, and I've seen VH once with Sammy and twice with Gary. That Sammy show in '95 still remains the second-best concert experience ever for myself, second only to Rush.

Dave started VERY strong, with an excellent selection of songs. But then it just got uncomfortable to watch. You know what? Dave is too old to act like he does. He really needs to at least REALIZE that he's not in his 20's any more, and this is not the late 70's/early 80's. I looked on in disgust as he paraded around in tight leather pants and jerked-off with a whiskey bottle. And while his band nailed every song, there is no substitute for the real thing. I did, however, enjoy Ray Luzier's drumming- he put an interesting twist on a lot of Alex's original work. And Dave, you can lay off the F-bombs, too.
Unchained was the only song I enjoyed in the whole second half of his set.

Needless to say, I knew Sammy would be a refreshing change. You better believe he came out with more energy. And yes, being the closing act WITH all the rain did add a bit to the show. I liked his band, too. They weren't VH, and they didn't try to be. 5150 was the high point for me.
I will say that I will never take my kids to a Sammy Hagar concert. The Poundcake montage was definately R-rated. My wife said that although she enjoyed Sammy's set for the most part, there's a bit of sell-out going on. Sammy says he's all about the music, but he does a lot to cheapen it too.

So, overall, I would say that Sammy won. I walked away with renewed appreciation for Van Halen, and I sure hope the next Van Halen singer is not Dave. Sammy would be okay, I guess, but really, as long as it's Ed, Alex, and Mike, I know it will be better than this concert.
Vaznutz is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
19th, amphitheatre, englewood, fiddler, green, june, reviews, show

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 02:58 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
8 LINK TO US    SITE HISTORY    CREDITS    PRIVACY
Copyright © 1999-2010 VHLinks.com
Images and content on this site may not be used without the expressed consent of VHLinks.com.
This site is not affiliated with Van Halen, its management, or record company.