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Old 10.25.07, 08:56 PM   #16
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I'm totally drunk. I took a bunch of photos at the show. Security was standing right next to me on the floor, and dude only took issue with me and my camera when he saw I was shooting some video on it. He said: "Pictures only. No video." We'll see if any of them came out. My buddy Ben and I were having a good time; he's my bud (lead vocalist of AT/DT) who's been with me to VH shows in the last ten years (and DLR and SH solo shows) from all three lead singers. Against our 30-something better judgement, we dodged the wives at home and hit the nudie bar afterward. I'll write a solid review tomorrow when I'm sober. The show was exactly as it's been, though; there really won't be a whole lot of new stuff to report.

Great show, Ed was so much better than in 2004. I almost thought Dave was trying to hard to kiss Ed's ass during the night, but hey whatever it takes.
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Hey All:

Below is my review of Van Halen's Minneapolis show. It was intended for mass consumption, though; hence the bits of VH history laced throughout (obvious facts to most VH Links members).

Also, I posted a few photos from the show in the 'Tour Pictures' thread. I've also posted them to my MySpace page, www.myspace.com/andrewthomassolomusic, and to my personal website as well, www.andrewthomas.net.

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Van Halen 4.0 - Target Center - Minneapolis - October 24, 2007

Diehard fans have debated Eddie Van Halen's statement that the most recent incarnation of Van Halen is a "new band." If it is indeed new, why does the band only play material that is 23-plus year old? While the true test will be whether or not Van Halen 4 can functionally produce new music after this tour, there was plenty of evidence beyond the "4" spray painted on Eddie Van Halen's Wolfgang guitar to this being a different brand of Van Halen than the original David Lee Roth-fronted version from 1978 to 1984.

For one, only once did Roth "forget the fuckin' words," and his classic-style announcement of having done so seemed more planned than accidental, as was his deliverance of the must-have line: "Well look at all the people here tonight!" Similarly, gone were the colorfully goofy outfits Eddie and Dave wore in the 80s, not to mention their long hair. ("This is the first time in the history of Van Halen where the opening band has had better haircuts," Roth stated when complimenting the opening act, a band fronted by Bob Marley's son Ky-Mani Marley.)

But the most obvious and deliberate difference in Van Halen 4's presence was in fact a LACK of a presence--that of now-former bassist and founding member Michael Anthony. Anthony's signature background vocal harmonies and keep-it-simple-stupid bass lines were performed by Eddie Van Halen's 16 year old son, Wolfgang. Perhaps the catalyst for this "three-union," Wolfgang responded to the immense pressure put on him by his dad, fans, and critics by holding his own for the more than two hour set; likely engineered so, he mostly stayed in the background, only occasionally walking the circular stage path and offering a rehearsed "Dave, can you give me a break?" during the breakdown of "Unchained."

Also staying relatively low-key was drummer Alex Van Halen. Aside from a solo spot one-third of the way through the set, the elder brother kept himself at work recreating his drum parts from the first six Van Halen albums.

But this was the Dave and Eddie show. If Van Halen's August press conference in Los Angeles didn't make that clear, the majority attention given to the two of them by the camera crew for the giant behind-the-stage screen did; from bluesy vocal-guitar call and response sessions (improvised or routine at this point?) to high-fives and hugs, the interaction of Roth and EVH together again was the band's selling point--and most "Dave-or-the-grave" VH fans probably would have accepted it without the loving exchanges anyway.

The show was tight and made up of a set list--THE set list--performed at every stop on the tour thus far. Gone are extended outro jams, long spaces between songs, and excessive stage banter (Roth limited his storytelling to a couple of "back in the day" nostalgia bits), and in are tight endings and transitions, a vocal coach for Roth, and a sober Eddie. Was this preferred over the once heavily improvised "whatever happens, happens" stage shows of Van Halen? Considering the volatile personal nature of Van Halen's past--not to mention the cost for a ticket--it probably was indeed best to ere on the side of caution.

So while it would appear Van Halen have pulled themselves up from their bootstraps to overcome low expectations for this (or any) tour after their previous 2004 outing with vocalist Sammy Hagar, the show still lacked a key personal ingredient: relevance to the town. While performing with The Police in St. Paul this past July, Sting told a brief but detailed story about the first time the band played the Twin Cities. In contrast, this extremely rehearsed Van Halen show would leave you hard pressed to determine the city when examining YouTube footage from any of the stops thus far.

Also lacking were the well know stage antics of David Lee Roth of the past. One might even dare to say he got BORING after the honeymoon that was the first half of the set. (A comedic "Ice Cream Man" intro saved it.) Now that's not to say we'd WANT to see a 52 year old Roth acting his overtly-hetero-yet-still-kid-of-homosexual egotistic flare of two decades ago, but it does beg the question: What else does he have to offer?

Musicianship reigned from Mr. Edward, though; he was arguably playing his best in more than 12 years. The lone setlist downer was "Oh, Pretty Woman," the Roy Orbison cover song from the band's weakest Roth-era album. And for all the anticipation 23 years of not hearing "Hot For Teacher" carried, the finally-performed song lacked energy. But just hearing Dave scream, "We heard you missed us, we're back!" helped make up for that.

Was Van Halen's Minneapolis show a success? Yes, indeed. Was it worth the wait? Debatable, but the band certainly made a strong effort to play their music--that many fans carry a heavy affection for--as well as could be asked for. Was it worth the money? Very debatable. Were souvenir t-shirts worth the $40 asking price? No. Will Van Halen 4.0 go on to make new music or tour again? Simply put, they MUST put out new music in order to tour again; this was and is their one shot to cash in (and they are most definitely cashing in) on the trip with Roth. Will Michael Anthony and/or Sammy Hagar again enter the Van Halen fold in the future? With the tedious nature of Van Halen, that, unlike Wednesday's show, is unpredictable.

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Andrew - great write up that sums up my feelings from seeing the YouTube vids. I still have to wait until they get home to LA to see for myself.

All the reviews of "the best VH show ever" have left me scratching my head thinking back to some of the late 70's early 80's shows and asking WTF are they thinking?
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i think the best description of wolfs presence was from an entertainment weekly review. they said he look like a contest winner up there. perfectly put.
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This show was sick!! it was amazing. way better than 04. id give this show a 9/10. They were all on and super tight with each other. the only thing that went wrong was when dave forgot the words in one song and yelled it out but that was hilarious! and dave's story about kenny's basement was awesome. i dont care what anyone else says...wolfgang kicks ass! he can sing and play very well and he fits in well too. It was great to see dave eddie and alex back together and with wolfie in the mix. in the words of dave "this is 3 parts original and 1 part inevitable, it is 3 parts van halen and one part diamond dave!" yes they played all of the old songs, but thats because that is what people wanted to hear. if they do stay together. a new album will materialize, until then, we have the Van Halen rockin out every night!

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I just put one video on youtube:
Show Your Love...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXK6_3qz97Q

I will post the other one tomorrow night. It's much better! 4 songs on it. I have to work form 9pm tonight until 4pm tomorrow. Better catch an hour of shut eye before I go.
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People, the shows can be just as good as the shows in the 70s and 80s. Just because they have aged and put on a different show now is ok.

I've aged too, the show I saw when I was a horny drunk teenager might not be the same to me now, as sad as that is to admit!

I just can't wait for next Thursday night to happen, hope Ed and Dave don't kill each other before then.
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As a person who has seen many shows over the past 10 years working concert security in the Twin Cities, this show is a must.

I was lucky enough to attend the show at the Target Center on 10/24 as a fan and not an employee.

Got to watch from stage right (crowd left) and see 16 year old Wolfgang from about 30 feet away and hold his own.

The only negative from the night and agreeing with all other posts - Eddie has got to go wireless so he can get to stage right and out on the catwalks.

Thanks for getting back together and hope to see them again in the future.

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As a person who has seen many shows over the past 10 years working concert security in the Twin Cities, this show is a must.

I was lucky enough to attend the show at the Target Center on 10/24 as a fan and not an employee.

Got to watch from stage right (crowd left) and see 16 year old Wolfgang from about 30 feet away and hold his own.

The only negative from the night and agreeing with all other posts - Eddie has got to go wireless so he can get to stage right and out on the catwalks.

Thanks for getting back together and hope to see them again in the future.

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Yes Wofie held his own, I liked the short solo he did. As a guitar player I could not help but think that he was playing the bass like a lead guitar player not a bass player, must be his teacher.

As far as the wireless thing with Eddie, he will never do it. When you go wireless you change everything from analog to digital. Sounds like a good plan but it changes the whole tube amp principal.
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**thanks for moving my thread over here**

One thing I forgot to add....

The stage wastes a lot of floor space for absolutely no worth what-so-ever.

DLR came out twice, maybe thrice. Wolfy came out once. But otherwise... the section that goes into the floor is a waste of space and floor seat tickets. IMO, of course.

Also.... ILAA would go a lot further making the first four rows the "big" 5* for about $250, rows 5-10 *4 at about $150, and from there go with $100 on the floor and etc etc.... I have to wonder sometimes WTF they are thinkin. We ate some meatballs and chicken, drank some beer, talked with some other VH fans. That was all good. But, we could have done that on our own without the help of ILAA. My wife and I were group "D" and went on the backstage tour last right at about 6:30pm. They shuffled us through like kids in a musuem, I think I saw EVH's guitars, some smoke machines, and where Alex sits during DLR's and EVH's solos. Oh... and we saw the doors to their dressing rooms, too. I orgasmed for that. Was it worth the $1500 for two 5* tickets? Fuck no. Was the concert worth that kind of money with the awesome seats we had? Yes it was. ILAA can kiss my ass, like I said in the other thread... most of my ILAA handjobbag full of VH trinket BS stuff is already on its way to the Minneapolis dump. I knew all along my expectations were too high after reading ther other reviews... and they were right. But, thank GOD! the concert more than made up for their greedy hands.

Oh... and one last parting shot. The "security" for the Minneapolis Target Center are the biggest bunch of rude wanna-be LEO I've ever seen. The bad-boy "respect mah athorahtee" attitudes, lack of professionalism, the little black LEO gloves, and nazi skin head or military hair cuts all made for an entertaining night. I thought one of them was going to try and put the cuffs on me during the "tour" for falling out of line while peering up onto the stage. One of the jokers "guarding" the pit liked to check my ticket and ILAA badge, and point to my seat EVERY time I walked by him to go get a beer/take a piss/get wifey some water/etc. Pathetic.

All in all... I'd do it all over again but would have my expectations lower for the ILAA BS.
It was worth it in 2004 for the soundcheck....my 4 star got my front row center on the edge of the ring so when Dave came out and did Runnin and I'll Wait in Chicago he was right in front of me...
But you are right....ILAA is a joke.
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My Minneapolis VH show review was published to HowWasTheShow.com:

http://www.howwastheshow.com/index.c.../reviewKey/792
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Here's another one I made "Runnin With The Devil:
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And yet another: Beautiful Girls
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vjj8mO9o-o

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Here are my last 2 videos. I have bits and pieces of Alex's solo and Jump, but my camera was dying and my card got full, so I'm not posting those.

Dance the Night Away
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