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06.16.09, 09:20 AM
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5 students killed at the university monday night? Reports are 7 dead in protests. Many badly beaten.
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I've heard and read so many conflicting stories, I don't know what to believe at this point. Anywhere from 1 to 7 dead, depending on which source is correct.
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06.16.09, 11:18 AM
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A number of times, I have been asked what exactly are the Iranians doing about Ahmadinejad. I think these pics will go some way in explaining just how far people are willing to go now.
I feel proud when I see these pics. Its touching to see how so many of the women are protecting the men. I'm sure that some of you will be enraged by the images here.
First I wanted to show an image that would destroy the myth about the veiled "crows" you see on the news. Some of these are very brave women who are made even more brave by their dedication to their religion.
The first casualty (7 dead have been reported so far)
As far as I'm concerned the worst image I have see so far is this one:
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06.16.09, 11:31 AM
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06.16.09, 11:41 AM
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The crackdown has started. They are starting to call on houses all over northern Tehran and confiscating satellite dishes. I am already prepared for the doorbell which I shall not be answering.
Some other rumours include the news about how the police have ordered all ambulances to take the injured to hospitals owned by the Revolutionary Guards. People are being advised to take the injured to hospitals in their own cars. Not sure if this one is true though.
People are still shouting from their rooftops. Cars are still going round the city honking their horns and thousands of people are on the street every night. Its all a big Fuck You to the authorities.
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06.16.09, 11:50 AM
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My best hope & wishes go out to Aristotle.
I know this is a very tense situation, but every now and again, I have to break up the tension. With that said:
She's kinda cute.
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06.16.09, 11:54 AM
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My best hope & wishes go out to Aristotle.
I know this is a very tense situation, but every now and again, I have to break up the tension. With that said:
She's kinda cute.

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I know I thought the same. That's why I put her in. I have said in one of my first posts, normal life is carrying on - and with that said, you can be sure that there's plenty of socializing going on in these protests.
Boys will be boys, even when they are being battered with clubs.
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06.16.09, 12:17 PM
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The crackdown has started. They are starting to call on houses all over northern Tehran and confiscating satellite dishes. I am already prepared for the doorbell which I shall not be answering.
Some other rumours include the news about how the police have ordered all ambulances to take the injured to hospitals owned by the Revolutionary Guards. People are being advised to take the injured to hospitals in their own cars. Not sure if this one is true though.
People are still shouting from their rooftops. Cars are still going round the city honking their horns and thousands of people are on the street every night. Its all a big Fuck You to the authorities.
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I'm going to assume civilians are not allowed to own firearms?
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06.16.09, 12:28 PM
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The election crisis in Iran has ignited a full-on guerrilla cyberwar, with Twitterers and techies across the globe pitching in to help protesters in that country access the Internet, and official Iranian government Web sites being knocked offline.
The U.S. State Department even reportedly weighed in, with an unnamed official telling Reuters Tuesday that it had asked Twitter not to "shut down its system in Iran."
Early on Monday, bloggers outside Iran began posting and tweeting links to Web proxy servers that Iranians could use to dodge censorship — and others put up how-to guides for setting up even more proxies.
Some efforts took a more aggressive tone, as "hacktivists" talked of taking down Iranian goverment Web sites, and at least one American blogger posted instructions on how to do so.
As of midday Tuesday, Web sites belonging to President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei were unreachable.
Twitter itself, realizing how vital it had become, put off a scheduled maintenance outage until 5 p.m. EDT Tuesday (1:30 a.m. Wednesday in Tehran) so that Iranians could get in a full day of uninterrupted tweeting.
Iranians used the proxy servers to upload dozens of video clips to YouTube, despite an official block on the Web site within the country.
One blurry YouTube clip, likely shot with a cell phone, showed what appeared to have been a member of the Basij paramilitary force firing down from a second-story window into a courtyard with an AK-47 as protests continued behind a high wall.
The footage broadly matched an incident in Tehran Monday evening, when protesters broke into a Basij compound. Seven were reported killed.
"My website has been attacked by Iran. My servers are melting," wrote blogger Austin Heap, a San Francisco IT professional who's become one of the leaders of the cyberinsurrection.
"But individuals in the opposition are still able to use technology to mobilize each other," he wrote. "And the tech community around the world is still able to support them."
He at first posted proxy links late Sunday, then switched Monday to instructions on how to set them up, and finally posted code on how to disable Iranian official servers.
Also in San Francisco, Twitter sacrificed the convenience of millions of users in the Americas for the greater cause of Iranian freedom.
"A critical network upgrade must be performed to ensure continued operation of Twitter. In coordination with Twitter, our network host had planned this upgrade for tonight," co-founder Biz Stone wrote on the official Twitter blog Monday afternoon.
"However, our network partners at NTT America recognize the role Twitter is currently playing as an important communication tool in Iran. Tonight's planned maintenance has been rescheduled to tomorrow between 2-3p PST (1:30a in Iran)."
There was no comment from Twitter regarding the Reuters report that the State Dept. had asked it to keep Twitter up.
Late Monday, top Iranian crisis tweeter Moussavi1388, an unofficial mouthpiece for officially defeated presidential candidate Mir Hossein Moussavi, tweeted: "Twitter is currently our ONLY way to communicate overnight news in Iran, PLEASE do not take it down."
Meanwhile, #iranelection soared to the top of Twitter's most-searched-term list, with new tweets coming in even faster Tuesday than they had the day before.
"Unconfirmed rumours — army generals arrested — many rumours of coupdetat by army," posted PersianKiwi, another top Enlish-language Iranian Twitterer, on Tuesday morning.
One big question lay open — if Chinese officials were able to block Twitter just before the June 4 anniversary of the Tiananmen Square massacre, why couldn't Iran?
"[Users are] using proxies to break the filters. So twitter is even being blocked too," answered Michelle Moghtader of the National Iranian American Council, responding to a question during a live chat on WashingtonPost.com.
"You can say it's online warfare of constant censoring and breaking of filters," she added.
Internet expert Jonathan Zittrain, a law professor at Harvard, wrote on his blog that Twitter's own sloppiness helped it evade Iranian blockers.
"Twitter isn't just any particular Web site. It's an atom designed to be built into other molecules," said Zittrain. "More than most, Twitter allows multiple paths in and out for data."
"The very fact that Twitter itself is half-baked, coupled with its designers' willingness to let anyone build on top of it to finish baking it," he added, "is what makes it so powerful."
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06.16.09, 01:23 PM
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Stay safe Aristotle. Take care how much you check in with people over the net - you never know who is watching you.
Disturbing as the photos are, thankyou for posting them here for us to see.
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06.16.09, 01:34 PM
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The line from Langley is that they are waiting to see if this spreads from Tehran to other cities. If it does, then this becomes what they'd call a serious event.
Keep your head down, Aristotle.
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06.16.09, 01:40 PM
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The line from Langley is that they are waiting to see if this spreads from Tehran to other cities. If it does, then this becomes what they'd call a serious event.
Keep your head down, Aristotle.
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From what i gather, it has already spread out.
The clerics are not idiots though. They are making overtures about a recount, though not a revote at present, and from there I guess we will see how the land lies.
Dead right though. This is a serious event for Iran and Iranians. BUT, at the moment that is the scope. I hope no other countries try to get involved in what is, at the moment, an internal event.... no matter how serious domestically.
All our thoughts are with you Aristotle.
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06.16.09, 01:48 PM
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[QUOTE=graeme;1154505]
Dead right though. This is a serious event for Iran and Iranians. BUT, at the moment that is the scope. I hope no other countries try to get involved in what is, at the moment, an internal event.... no matter how serious domestically.
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Can you explain this angle a little further?
Who might try to get involved?
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06.16.09, 01:57 PM
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Dead right though. This is a serious event for Iran and Iranians. BUT, at the moment that is the scope. I hope no other countries try to get involved in what is, at the moment, an internal event.... no matter how serious domestically.
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Can you explain this angle a little further?
Who might try to get involved?
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I hope no-one. History has shown more than a little involvement by certain nations in Iran's internal affairs though - let's go for 1953 and Mossadeq's arrest and the Western installation of a dictator sympathetic to certain interests needs etc. The 1979 revolution would not have happened had the average Iranian been so oppressed - this was supported by the students too remember....
Let's be honest here. There are more than a few countries that have their sights firmly on Tehran and there is plenty of evidence that MI6 and the CIA have people operating inside Iran recently using a lot of the same tactics we did before. I disagree with Mahmoud's reign but I just pray that this is the not the beginning of an external destabilising process that could have serious repercussions for both the Iranian people and later, those around the country.
I hope that change comes from within, from the people that matter and live there, and not as part of another underhand powerplay. The end does not always justify the means.
Just my opinion though. Based on a little research.
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06.16.09, 02:14 PM
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I'm going to assume civilians are not allowed to own firearms?
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Ya think.....?
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06.16.09, 03:44 PM
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Geez...Aristotle, stay safe over there!
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